I'm no expert but my view is I have a load of mules that I kinda want to upgrade to alts / do a bit more with. But to become crafting gods they need skill points, which take time to level or run around and get So I think if ur low level character is now your main a skill point reset in your L43 would give you a world of points to max out crafting etc.

Not heard of bind on pickup recipes or mats. Even motif pieces etc aren't bind on pickup to my knowledge, but no expert.

Thanks, yeah i have a ton of skill points for a level 43 character, dont pretty much i can to get skill points so i am guessing around 90 or so but havent checked. Just would help me on my new main a lot cause having to level 6 crafting professions on your first character really kills your build for a long time cause you dont have enough skill points for combat for a while. So i may use that 43 for 3 crafts to save me a ton of skill points on my main. Just would make the game much more enjoyable leveling up and not feel gimp.

I made up my mind to do this when I started playing in April 2014. I rolled a character specifically to level to v1 (needed for entering Craglorn) and learning all traits and recipes on and it was a great asset until Orsinium. Some harvesting and looting mechanics introduced in Orsinium make it so you need to harvest resource nodes/loot with your crafting character to get what you need - the v16 materials, cassertite sand and laurels. If you don't know crafting, and don't have relevant motif chapters learnt on the player making the kill, you don't get those items.

For this reason, I resolved to level up my crafter to v16 and turn it into my main. You need a LOT of skill points to max out crafting (120+), you also need 120+ skill points at a minimum to have a workable dungeon build. This means you need to get all the skill points from quests and delves in the level 1 to veteran 10 zones. You'll also need to do public, group and veteran dungeons. You will have to do the quest in Orsinium to unlock Morkuldin crafting benches.

All this roughly equates to spending 100+ hours of gameplay on your crafter. At that point, is it even a crafting only alt? Sounds like a main character to me.

My advice:

1. Do you really want to do crafting as a profession? Yes - go to 2b. Not sure, not really - go to 2a.

2a. Crafting for Convenience: you want to be only as proficient at crafting to unlock combat bonuses and be able to improve your Bind-on-Pickup or crafted loot to save time/money.

aa) Level up crafting skills to 50 on your main by deconstructing loot you find along the way. It'll be slow below level 50 and extremely fast in the vet levels. You can wait until vet ranks to do this and sell all loot below level 50 to make some starting capital.

ab) Learn a green level 15, 25,35 and 45 recipe and buy/loot the ingredients you need to level up provisioning skill to 50.

ac)Gather or buy Dragonthorn and Wormwood or Blessed Thistle (or both) and combine with level 10, 20, 30, 40 and v1 water to get your alchemy to 50.

Respec to free up skill points you were forced to put into crafting when you hit v16 and only allocate points in these passives:

I) Extraction, Expertise for all the equipment crafting skills

II) Gourmet, Connoisseur and Medicinal Use for Consumable Crafting skills.

Learn a v15 blue magicka recipe, stamina recipe, and epic recipe and make your own food or don't bother and buy from stores for cheap. Deconstruct loot from dungeons and PvE to stock up on v15 mats and improvement tempers. These are valuable whether you keep them for your own use or sell them for gold.

2b. Crafting as a Profession:

ba)Equipment Crafting - start learning traits until you hit v1. Sell all loot items for gold to vendors. Never log off if you have open research slots. Sort through your loot, look in guild banks you have access to, ask friends, look in guild stores and make sure you are always researching something.

At v1+- deconstruct all green, blue and purple equipment you find. This will level up your skill and as you unlock the extraction passives, you will get material and tempers which are quite valuable.
The reason for not recommending deconstruction as a habit before v1 is:
below vet ranks, the inspiration from deconstructing loot is much less so its more cost effective to sell the gear for gold from vendors. Once you hit vet ranks, the inspiration from loot climbs exponentially and it becomes cost effective to deconstruct for gold and materials.

bb)Consumable Crafting - learn all the recipes you can find and level up provisioning to level 50, same as 2ab.

bc) Gather and stock up all types of flowers and only use the ones described in 2ac to level up alchemy.

bd) Learn motifs. Learn that glass, akaviri, ancient orc motifs will cost you MORE than 1 million gold each to buy or 100s of hours of farming.

I kind of made the mistake of making 3 characters for crafting, all are level 10-12 players but have crafting level 50.

This all sounded good in the beginning, and it reduced the research time, but then Orsinium DLC came out and changed every thing for me. Now, I am taking the time to make one crafter so I can go gathering and get better mats on one character.

So people are saying all equipment on one character which is what i was planning on doing but which of the enchanting, provisioning and alchemy can go on my alt that is level 43? To me it just seems like a pain to try and get that many skill points for one single character. But if its the only way then i will just plug away and do everything on one character as my main. I honestly dont have time to level up multiple characters to vet16. Its going to take me a long time just with one. So if its possible to put any professions on him and the others on my main then that would be great.

shreikanb14a_ESO wrote: »

Question about alt crafting... I read somewhere that the resources needed to create the new motif's only drop if your char has learned the motif. If that's the case shouldn't your crafter be on your main instead?

There is one Motif that has this interaction. The Mercenary Motif. Your chances of getting a Laurel drop (style material) from a Veteran Dungeon boss increases the more chapters you know. However I don't know if the mercenary motif itself has any crafting skill requirements to learn*. I will report back and let you know on that one as I have one Vet character that has no points at all in materials passives. I seem to remember having some issues with that one, but I don't remember if it was the Mercenary Motif or some other purple that I was not going to list on the guild store (they are getting really cheap now)

All other new style materials are just a farming grind to get.

So, what I have done is had my Vets that run Vet Dungeons learn some of the chapters, but only my Master Crafter knows the entire motif. Ironically, it is the character that knows all the chapters that gets the lowest drop rate with the Laurels.



*For example, the Daedric Motif requires, the non crown store one anyway, L9 in one of the material passives. However getting to that level of material does not require a crafter, just L40 in one of the Equipment crafts, and you can get there just with decon and no other points outside of Material levels invested.

It's good to have your dedicated crafter not be your main OP.

A tip for you:

You can reach lvl 40 in all crafts except enchanting ( which is harder), provisioning & alchemy ( which is easier and will definitely max to 50 quick ) without even trying later on.

I have level 40 clothing, blacksmithing, woodworking on both my VR chars now. I have all 8 slots filled but I only mention 3 in my sig because the 3rd is my crafter maxed with everything except learning traits and motifs ( he is still busy with those ).

What I am trying to say is while you are focusing on the main crafter - after maxing him out you will actually naturally level the others too over time

The greatest advantage to having crafting (particularly equipment professions) all on one toon, is that it much easier / cheaper to acquire all of the motifs. The downside to having one crafter was inventory management. However, soon ESO+ members will have unlimited crafting space.

There were concerns that your crafter would require to do dungeons and pvp to get some of the motifs and style material but has been mentioned above, all of the style materiel will be tradable soon.