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Debate: Argonian or Khajiit with a human or elf is it...

  • lonewolf26
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    nothing wrong with it at all
    You're playing a game set in a land where this kind of thing is not frowned upon in the legal sense. The sensibilities of our culture do not pervade that space, much like a dystopian novel's setting chucks out some of our sensibilities to make a case for its setting to become plausible. Where you take that with your own headcanon is very much your business and also not for someone else to judge.
    Edited by lonewolf26 on February 17, 2016 7:14PM
  • Enodoc
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    nothing wrong with it at all
    Acrolas wrote: »
    "[...]Generally the offspring bear the racial traits of the mother, though some traces of the father's race may also be present.[...]"
    That's the bit I remember reading.
    "[...]It is less clear whether the Argonians and Khajiit are interfertile with both humans and elves. Though there have been many reports throughout the Eras of children from these unions, as well as stories of unions with daedra, there have been no well documented offspring.[...]"
    That's the bit I'd forgotten. :stuck_out_tongue:

    Thanks @Acrolas!
    Edited by Enodoc on February 17, 2016 7:25PM
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  • failkiwib16_ESO
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    Give me the skooma you are using please!
    Rosveen wrote: »
    Enodoc wrote: »
    Well we already know they can't reproduce with a different race.
    What? I'm sure it is established lore that a cross-racial coupling results in offspring that are of the same race as the mother.
    Plus there's also the fact if a male Khajiit were to bang a female elf/human/whatever, it probably would not end well for the female.
    Barenziah slept with a Khajiit. Painful, but no lasting damage.
    She also got pregnant with Tiber Septim, however he forced her to abort the child, as he was already married. He was a man, she was a mer.

    One of Baranziah's husbands, General Symmachus is rumoured to have nord blood in him, he was taller than the usual dark elf male.

    There is a khajiit in AD storyline in ESO, that is married to a nord woman. Unsure wether they can produce offsprings or not.

    Wether it is morally right or wrong to have interspecie and interracial intercourse IRL is another debate for another type of forums, however in ESO it is legalized, though frowned upon by the general population of Tamriel.

    Men and Mer share a divine ancestory, so it can be debated wether or not an act of intercourse between a man and a mer is interspecie or interracial.

    Argonians and Khajiits do not share ancestory with anyone els, so in case one of these should participate in the act of intercourse with eachother, men or mer - it will be considerate interspecie and not interracial.
  • Ahzek
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    Give me the skooma you are using please!
    Skooma ?
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  • theher0not
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    nothing wrong with it at all
    Lenikus wrote: »
    Milvan wrote: »
    Btw, Argonians are actually amphibians right? Does that mean that they have a external reproductive act?
    Well they do come from eggs.... but i think argonian sexuality was a bit more complicated than that

    There is a book about that somewere. They host some sort of conpetition every year in Shadowfen and the winners gets to mate. Found it in the camp of an AD deserter who studies the Argonians
  • Gilvoth
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    It's pure bestiality and should be illegal
    its interbreeding and pure bestiality. discusting, causes problems and deep embarrassment for entire cultures.
  • Lil_Willie
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    Give me the skooma you are using please!
    I want the Skooma that youre on. You are just as high as Maiq the Liar.
  • TheShadowScout
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    nothing wrong with it at all
    Milvan wrote: »
    Btw, Argonians are actually amphibians right? Does that mean that they have a external reproductive act?
    Their maidens (and maids) have breast-ish chest areas so I would think the hist copied more from mammals then some people might think when they made the saxheel... ;)
    The child would be of the race of the mother, with only a few racial traits from the father. No hairy lizard babies for you.
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  • TX12001rwb17_ESO
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    It's pure bestiality and should be illegal
    Enodoc wrote: »
    Well we already know they can't reproduce with a different race.
    What? I'm sure it is established lore that a cross-racial coupling results in offspring that are of the same race as the mother.
    It is not possible for a Khajiit and an elf/human to reproduce, if I recall there's actually a book in the game that states this.

    Plus there's also the fact if a male Khajiit were to bang a female elf/human/whatever, it probably would not end well for the female.
    It didn't end well for Barenziah.

  • NateAssassin
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    Enodoc wrote: »
    Well we already know they can't reproduce with a different race.
    What? I'm sure it is established lore that a cross-racial coupling results in offspring that are of the same race as the mother.
    It is not possible for a Khajiit and an elf/human to reproduce, if I recall there's actually a book in the game that states this.

    Plus there's also the fact if a male Khajiit were to bang a female elf/human/whatever, it probably would not end well for the female.
    It didn't end well for Barenziah.
    I'd figure along the lines of internal bleeding, or just bleeding in general, probably would scar eh, nevermind.
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  • failkiwib16_ESO
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    Give me the skooma you are using please!
    theher0not wrote: »
    Lenikus wrote: »
    Milvan wrote: »
    Btw, Argonians are actually amphibians right? Does that mean that they have a external reproductive act?
    Well they do come from eggs.... but i think argonian sexuality was a bit more complicated than that

    There is a book about that somewere. They host some sort of conpetition every year in Shadowfen and the winners gets to mate. Found it in the camp of an AD deserter who studies the Argonians
    @theher0not you mean The Argonian Mating Ritual ? uesp.net/wiki/Online:The_Argonian_Mating_Ritual

    :p
    Edited by failkiwib16_ESO on February 17, 2016 8:41PM
  • Enemy-of-Coldharbour
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    The difference is that Khajiit and Argonians are sentient civilized races on the same intellect level as humans so.. each to their own I guess.

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  • Thevampirenight
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    Well, according to lore khijjits have some ties to the moons, different moon cycles, means different forms of khiijit one of them is a bosmer looking khijjit but smaller then bosmer but basically indistinguishable from them other then being a little shorter then a normal bosmer. So I do very well believe that Bosmer and Khijjit can easily interbreed with each other. Because in some ways they are directly related to each other.
    As for mixes between argonions and humans I do believe its possible, if its a human male does the mating rite with the hist, in order to create an egg, with the female it would have some of the fathers traits. Maybe lizard looks more human looking skin maybe human eyes.
    Edited by Thevampirenight on February 17, 2016 10:55PM
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  • JD2013
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  • theher0not
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    nothing wrong with it at all
    theher0not wrote: »
    Lenikus wrote: »
    Milvan wrote: »
    Btw, Argonians are actually amphibians right? Does that mean that they have a external reproductive act?
    Well they do come from eggs.... but i think argonian sexuality was a bit more complicated than that

    There is a book about that somewere. They host some sort of conpetition every year in Shadowfen and the winners gets to mate. Found it in the camp of an AD deserter who studies the Argonians
    @theher0not you mean The Argonian Mating Ritual ? uesp.net/wiki/Online:The_Argonian_Mating_Ritual

    :p

    I think that is the one I am talking about
  • Inarre
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    Im not sure, but my argonian and her argonian husband had human children in skyrim. It was very weird.
    Edited by Inarre on February 18, 2016 12:30AM
  • NateAssassin
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    Inarre wrote: »
    Im not sure, but my argonian and her argonian husband had human children in skyrim. It was very weird.
    Uh, my family consisted of:

    Khajiit wife
    Altmer Husband
    1 Breton kid
    1 Nord kid
    1 Argonian kid (mods xdd)

    What a nice family, very culturally diverse.
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  • Tosfoy
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    nothing wrong with it at all
    I wonder what a CatHuman, or a Lezardhuman would look like :smile:
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  • Samsayia
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    Give me the skooma you are using please!
    Fruitmass wrote: »
    Meh. Alcohol, a paper bag and a very dark room make us all equals in the end.

    Ohhhhh that made me laugh out loud at work and snort and my coworkers know I'm goofing off ***.

  • Elder_III
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    nothing wrong with it at all
    Not an issue in Tamriel and it's a regular thing to find in ESO as well as the single player TES games. The % of interracial couples in low, but can be found easily. Inter-special couples are more rare, but they do exist.
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  • RAGUNAnoOne
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    Inarre wrote: »
    Im not sure, but my argonian and her argonian husband had human children in skyrim. It was very weird.

    What about Brand-Shei you calling his family weird?
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  • RAGUNAnoOne
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    JD2013 wrote: »
    Now go to your corner!

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  • Elara_Northwind
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    nothing wrong with it at all
    3 or my characters are married, and all interacially xD One of my khajiit has a dunmer wife, the other a bosmer wife, and my altmer has a bosmer wife also... So I think its fine! Although my lizard isn't married, and never will be because the poor girl is downright hideous... :disappointed:
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  • RAGUNAnoOne
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    Milvan wrote: »
    Btw, Argonians are actually amphibians right? Does that mean that they have a external reproductive act?
    Their maidens (and maids) have breast-ish chest areas so I would think the hist copied more from mammals then some people might think when they made the saxheel... ;)
    The child would be of the race of the mother, with only a few racial traits from the father. No hairy lizard babies for you.
    ...why am I now humming the title song to "Gremlins-2" ;):tongue::smirk:

    Umm not in morrowind if anything the males looklike they have larger breasts...
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  • Ilterendi
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    just being a furry or lizard equivalent
    Nothing wrong with in my book, but Bosmer are the best Mer. Bed a girl in a pile of leaves surrounded by the forest. Yup, I'll do that everyday of the week...
  • Ignotus
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    The difference is that Khajit and Argonians are sentient civilized races on the same intellect level as humans so.. each to their own I guess.
    Everyone knows Orc women are the best women anyway.

    well that doesnt change the fact that its bestiality even if they are humanoid.
    they're still not human and more bestial
    I tend to lean this way as well. In my mind, if they can't reproduce due to being too different biologically, then maybe it's not the best idea for them to be romantically involved. I don't know about "illegal", but if I woke up in Tamriel, I probably wouldn't get sexually involved with a species that I can't have viable offspring with. I don't view them as different "races" but more like different "species". Someone mentioned black and white people being romantically involved irl. The difference there is we are definitely of the same human species and can produce viable offspring if the two people wanted to. Again, not sure I'd make it illegal, but that's my personal taste. I could see having a relationship with a Khajiit for example, just not a sexual relationship. My opinion.
  • Gidorick
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    Nothing wrong with it as long as it's consensual...Khajitt and Argonians are more "aware" than their earth counterparts. They are not merely "animals" and therefore it cannot be considered bestiality.

    And in case anyone is interested: here is my concept for a Hybrid character creation mechanic in ESO:

    http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/153977/eso-character-offspring-a-hybrid-character-concept/p1

    This is from that thread:
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  • SlayerTheDragon
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    nothing wrong with it at all
    Given that Nirn is not Earth, one cannot assume that any of the races are "human". Human's are creatures of earth.

    Other than that, as long as the Khajitt or Argonian have the ability to reason and thus consent - all should be fine...
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  • Gidorick
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    DonoVDV wrote: »
    Given that Nirn is not Earth, one cannot assume that any of the races are "human". Human's are creatures of earth.

    Other than that, as long as the Khajitt or Argonian have the ability to reason and thus consent - all should be fine...

    Good point @DonoVDV!
    SadieJoan wrote: »
    3 or my characters are married, and all interacially xD One of my khajiit has a dunmer wife, the other a bosmer wife, and my altmer has a bosmer wife also... So I think its fine! Although my lizard isn't married, and never will be because the poor girl is downright hideous... :disappointed:

    Don't give up hope on your Argonian @SadieJoan . We all know the story of the Altmer and the Orc... :blush:
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