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Alliance Points - casual gamer
EpicRekkoning
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I have one VR 16 character and haven't pvp much. I want to build up my alliance points for Vigor. I usually play early mornings when there's not a lot of people on. Is there a good way to solo grind AP with tossing rapid regen on a zerg? I don't mind spending time or grinding the points out, I just want to maximize my efforts. I appreciate any advice or suggestions.
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CamBam370✭✭✭If you want to maximize your efforts then you need to go into a Zerg,
- This is because currently at this patch the multiplier is ridiculous in groups.
- You can spam the muttigin the cheap way but if you are a sorc or nightblade get enough damage on someone and you will get allot of ap once the zerg kills him.
Always buy repair kits and repair walls + doors.
Always wait for the ¨ tick¨ of ap after a successful fight. Even if enemies are running away.
Try to do the bounties at the gates for more ap
If you do these you will get vigor in no time.5 -
Crown✭✭✭✭✭
✭Running with a zerg will not make you a lot of points. The multiplier that @CamBam370 mentioned can be seen in my spreadsheet (click for link).
Large groups do not make more AP - as I've shown many times. The most AP is almost always made by the people who play in groups of 2-6.
Right now, a zerg will make a bit more than 100 AP per kill if the person being killed hasn't died in the last 5 minutes. A group of 2 will make about 500 AP (small groups and solo players get the 20% AP buff, and large groups don't as load screen times are horribly long when in large groups). You won't be able to fight an opposing zerg, though you can take out targets one by one on their back lines or in the path that they use to run back to fights.
The easiest way to make AP is to have a very high damage build, and just kill people. Doing so at a keep is likely easiest as you'll have advantages to defence. I suggest finding a duelling group and learn more about how to win fights on your own, and a PvP guild where you can form small groups (2-6 players) with a good composition (1 healer, 1 support, 4 damage OR everyone damage with their own self sustain healing).Crown | AD NB | First AD/NA Grand Overlord (2015/12/26)
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EpicRekkoning✭✭✭Thanks for the advice! I'll have to switch my game time a little to find those zergs.0
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CamBam370✭✭✭If you can´t find zergs or a large fight
go into imp city , usually a good fight in arena
Gank enemies
repair random damaged walls
Or join the small skirmishesEdited by CamBam370 on February 17, 2016 4:52AM1 -
Spliffo✭✭✭✭Play defence at keeps and while the horde of players run off chasing the remaining enemies stay on the keep grounds until you get the tick. Between defending keep checking the map for siege on keeps so you can get there before it flags.
Also don't be a hero standing in the keep grounds when the outer comes down, get inside before it breaks so you can see what's going on and then go to the front door to lure the players silly enough to come at you. Never over reach because you don't want to die and have the tick go off while you riding back0 -
CamBam370✭✭✭Running with a zerg will not make you a lot of points. The multiplier that @CamBam370 mentioned can be seen in my spreadsheet (click for link).
Large groups do not make more AP - as I've shown many times. The most AP is almost always made by the people who play in groups of 2-6.
Right now, a zerg will make a bit more than 100 AP per kill if the person being killed hasn't died in the last 5 minutes. A group of 2 will make about 500 AP (small groups and solo players get the 20% AP buff, and large groups don't as load screen times are horribly long when in large groups). You won't be able to fight an opposing zerg, though you can take out targets one by one on their back lines or in the path that they use to run back to fights.
The easiest way to make AP is to have a very high damage build, and just kill people. Doing so at a keep is likely easiest as you'll have advantages to defence. I suggest finding a duelling group and learn more about how to win fights on your own, and a PvP guild where you can form small groups (2-6 players) with a good composition (1 healer, 1 support, 4 damage OR everyone damage with their own self sustain healing).
- I specifically remember someone at zos mentioning the idea that their is a mulitplier this update, that is why they are nerfing that multiplier next update. Two max of 50% per kill.
- Yes a high damage build can get you lots of ap if you gave the right class.
- And no i do not recommend a small group for a casual gamer
Due to the fact that they will not tower farm
And new player will not last as long as more pro ones
Why would someone want to sit around and duel all day that simply only gets you ap if you actually kill the person or if someone in your group does.
Open field combat is much better at getting ap
That 20% ap buff is applied to the less populated alliance not the smaller group.
I play on console and i tested this over and over and it clearly shows you will get more ap in zergs
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PhatGrimReaper✭✭✭✭✭Running with a zerg will not make you a lot of points. The multiplier that @CamBam370 mentioned can be seen in my spreadsheet (click for link).
Large groups do not make more AP - as I've shown many times. The most AP is almost always made by the people who play in groups of 2-6.
Right now, a zerg will make a bit more than 100 AP per kill if the person being killed hasn't died in the last 5 minutes. A group of 2 will make about 500 AP (small groups and solo players get the 20% AP buff, and large groups don't as load screen times are horribly long when in large groups). You won't be able to fight an opposing zerg, though you can take out targets one by one on their back lines or in the path that they use to run back to fights.
The easiest way to make AP is to have a very high damage build, and just kill people. Doing so at a keep is likely easiest as you'll have advantages to defence. I suggest finding a duelling group and learn more about how to win fights on your own, and a PvP guild where you can form small groups (2-6 players) with a good composition (1 healer, 1 support, 4 damage OR everyone damage with their own self sustain healing).
- I specifically remember someone at zos mentioning the idea that their is a mulitplier this update, that is why they are nerfing that multiplier next update. Two max of 50% per kill.
- Yes a high damage build can get you lots of ap if you gave the right class.
- And no i do not recommend a small group for a casual gamer
Due to the fact that they will not tower farm
And new player will not last as long as more pro ones
Why would someone want to sit around and duel all day that simply only gets you ap if you actually kill the person or if someone in your group does.
Open field combat is much better at getting ap
That 20% ap buff is applied to the less populated alliance not the smaller group.
I play on console and i tested this over and over and it clearly shows you will get more ap in zergs
Brah, the dude you are contradicting is an absolute AP monster. When this man gives you advice for making more AP, listen.Fat Grim Reaper - (m)Dragon Knight AR28
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CamBam370✭✭✭PhatGrimReaper wrote: »Running with a zerg will not make you a lot of points. The multiplier that @CamBam370 mentioned can be seen in my spreadsheet (click for link).
Large groups do not make more AP - as I've shown many times. The most AP is almost always made by the people who play in groups of 2-6.
Right now, a zerg will make a bit more than 100 AP per kill if the person being killed hasn't died in the last 5 minutes. A group of 2 will make about 500 AP (small groups and solo players get the 20% AP buff, and large groups don't as load screen times are horribly long when in large groups). You won't be able to fight an opposing zerg, though you can take out targets one by one on their back lines or in the path that they use to run back to fights.
The easiest way to make AP is to have a very high damage build, and just kill people. Doing so at a keep is likely easiest as you'll have advantages to defence. I suggest finding a duelling group and learn more about how to win fights on your own, and a PvP guild where you can form small groups (2-6 players) with a good composition (1 healer, 1 support, 4 damage OR everyone damage with their own self sustain healing).
- I specifically remember someone at zos mentioning the idea that their is a mulitplier this update, that is why they are nerfing that multiplier next update. Two max of 50% per kill.
- Yes a high damage build can get you lots of ap if you gave the right class.
- And no i do not recommend a small group for a casual gamer
Due to the fact that they will not tower farm
And new player will not last as long as more pro ones
Why would someone want to sit around and duel all day that simply only gets you ap if you actually kill the person or if someone in your group does.
Open field combat is much better at getting ap
That 20% ap buff is applied to the less populated alliance not the smaller group.
I play on console and i tested this over and over and it clearly shows you will get more ap in zergs
Brah, the dude you are contradicting is an absolute AP monster. When this man gives you advice for making more AP, listen.
I am aware who he is , but his argument would not apply to a ¨casual gamer¨1 -
PhatGrimReaper✭✭✭✭✭PhatGrimReaper wrote: »Running with a zerg will not make you a lot of points. The multiplier that @CamBam370 mentioned can be seen in my spreadsheet (click for link).
Large groups do not make more AP - as I've shown many times. The most AP is almost always made by the people who play in groups of 2-6.
Right now, a zerg will make a bit more than 100 AP per kill if the person being killed hasn't died in the last 5 minutes. A group of 2 will make about 500 AP (small groups and solo players get the 20% AP buff, and large groups don't as load screen times are horribly long when in large groups). You won't be able to fight an opposing zerg, though you can take out targets one by one on their back lines or in the path that they use to run back to fights.
The easiest way to make AP is to have a very high damage build, and just kill people. Doing so at a keep is likely easiest as you'll have advantages to defence. I suggest finding a duelling group and learn more about how to win fights on your own, and a PvP guild where you can form small groups (2-6 players) with a good composition (1 healer, 1 support, 4 damage OR everyone damage with their own self sustain healing).
- I specifically remember someone at zos mentioning the idea that their is a mulitplier this update, that is why they are nerfing that multiplier next update. Two max of 50% per kill.
- Yes a high damage build can get you lots of ap if you gave the right class.
- And no i do not recommend a small group for a casual gamer
Due to the fact that they will not tower farm
And new player will not last as long as more pro ones
Why would someone want to sit around and duel all day that simply only gets you ap if you actually kill the person or if someone in your group does.
Open field combat is much better at getting ap
That 20% ap buff is applied to the less populated alliance not the smaller group.
I play on console and i tested this over and over and it clearly shows you will get more ap in zergs
Brah, the dude you are contradicting is an absolute AP monster. When this man gives you advice for making more AP, listen.
I am aware who he is , but his argument would not apply to a ¨casual gamer¨
Everyone starts somewhere, there is no reason that a casual gamer can't improve their gameplay via experience to a point where its' doable. Nobody walked into Cyro on their first day and knew it all.Fat Grim Reaper - (m)Dragon Knight AR28
F G R Junior - Templar AR26
This One Had Name Changed - Nightblade AR19
Fat Grim Streaker - Sorcerer AR15
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Crown✭✭✭✭✭
✭I specifically remember someone at zos mentioning the idea that their is a mulitplier this update, that is why they are nerfing that multiplier next update. Two max of 50% per kill.
It used to be that every aditional player in a group increased the AP gains per kill of the group by 10%. After the patch, the increase is only for the first 5 additional players so 50% cap regardless of group size. Look at the spread sheet I linked before - it's all in there.Yes a high damage build can get you lots of ap if you gave the right class.
Regardless of class. I have a NB, a DK, and now a Templar who are all able to make good AP.And no i do not recommend a small group for a casual gamer
A casual player isn't going to learn anything in a large group, other than mechanics and style that will be irrelevant next patch when large groups will be easy cannon fodder for small groups.Due to the fact that they will not tower farm
Tower farming is not the most efficient way to make AP, though it is an easy one.And new player will not last as long as more pro ones
They won't, but they'll learn a LOT faster. I prefer having new players see what *can* be done before advising them how to "blend in" to the crowd in a zerg if they don't want to put in the effort. A casual player might only play a few hours at a time, though if he/she is a good casual player then the AP will roll in after the learning curve is passed.Why would someone want to sit around and duel all day that simply only gets you ap if you actually kill the person or if someone in your group does. Open field combat is much better at getting ap
I'm not suggesting that anyone duel. Small groups of 6 are the way to make AP these days.That 20% ap buff is applied to the less populated alliance not the smaller group.
I'm talking about the 20% buff that you get for killing a boss in a Delve.I play on console and i tested this over and over and it clearly shows you will get more ap in zergs
Perhaps *you* get more AP in a zerg. I would challenge anyone to play with me for 4-5 hours, learn how to play efficiently alone and/or in a small group, and then go back to zerging. The only reason to zerg is if you're enjoying the social atmosphere - not to make AP.Crown | AD NB | First AD/NA Grand Overlord (2015/12/26)
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ScarecrowBoat✭✭✭PhatGrimReaper wrote: »PhatGrimReaper wrote: »Running with a zerg will not make you a lot of points. The multiplier that @CamBam370 mentioned can be seen in my spreadsheet (click for link).
Large groups do not make more AP - as I've shown many times. The most AP is almost always made by the people who play in groups of 2-6.
Right now, a zerg will make a bit more than 100 AP per kill if the person being killed hasn't died in the last 5 minutes. A group of 2 will make about 500 AP (small groups and solo players get the 20% AP buff, and large groups don't as load screen times are horribly long when in large groups). You won't be able to fight an opposing zerg, though you can take out targets one by one on their back lines or in the path that they use to run back to fights.
The easiest way to make AP is to have a very high damage build, and just kill people. Doing so at a keep is likely easiest as you'll have advantages to defence. I suggest finding a duelling group and learn more about how to win fights on your own, and a PvP guild where you can form small groups (2-6 players) with a good composition (1 healer, 1 support, 4 damage OR everyone damage with their own self sustain healing).
- I specifically remember someone at zos mentioning the idea that their is a mulitplier this update, that is why they are nerfing that multiplier next update. Two max of 50% per kill.
- Yes a high damage build can get you lots of ap if you gave the right class.
- And no i do not recommend a small group for a casual gamer
Due to the fact that they will not tower farm
And new player will not last as long as more pro ones
Why would someone want to sit around and duel all day that simply only gets you ap if you actually kill the person or if someone in your group does.
Open field combat is much better at getting ap
That 20% ap buff is applied to the less populated alliance not the smaller group.
I play on console and i tested this over and over and it clearly shows you will get more ap in zergs
Brah, the dude you are contradicting is an absolute AP monster. When this man gives you advice for making more AP, listen.
I am aware who he is , but his argument would not apply to a ¨casual gamer¨
Everyone starts somewhere, there is no reason that a casual gamer can't improve their gameplay via experience to a point where its' doable. Nobody walked into Cyro on their first day and knew it all.
not even the dk who sees all, knows all, and kills all??
FANTASIAAAAAAAAAAGM of SBHMember of Zerona's Fan Boy ClubHow do i get out of cyrodiil1 -
PhatGrimReaper✭✭✭✭✭ScarecrowBoat wrote: »PhatGrimReaper wrote: »PhatGrimReaper wrote: »Running with a zerg will not make you a lot of points. The multiplier that @CamBam370 mentioned can be seen in my spreadsheet (click for link).
Large groups do not make more AP - as I've shown many times. The most AP is almost always made by the people who play in groups of 2-6.
Right now, a zerg will make a bit more than 100 AP per kill if the person being killed hasn't died in the last 5 minutes. A group of 2 will make about 500 AP (small groups and solo players get the 20% AP buff, and large groups don't as load screen times are horribly long when in large groups). You won't be able to fight an opposing zerg, though you can take out targets one by one on their back lines or in the path that they use to run back to fights.
The easiest way to make AP is to have a very high damage build, and just kill people. Doing so at a keep is likely easiest as you'll have advantages to defence. I suggest finding a duelling group and learn more about how to win fights on your own, and a PvP guild where you can form small groups (2-6 players) with a good composition (1 healer, 1 support, 4 damage OR everyone damage with their own self sustain healing).
- I specifically remember someone at zos mentioning the idea that their is a mulitplier this update, that is why they are nerfing that multiplier next update. Two max of 50% per kill.
- Yes a high damage build can get you lots of ap if you gave the right class.
- And no i do not recommend a small group for a casual gamer
Due to the fact that they will not tower farm
And new player will not last as long as more pro ones
Why would someone want to sit around and duel all day that simply only gets you ap if you actually kill the person or if someone in your group does.
Open field combat is much better at getting ap
That 20% ap buff is applied to the less populated alliance not the smaller group.
I play on console and i tested this over and over and it clearly shows you will get more ap in zergs
Brah, the dude you are contradicting is an absolute AP monster. When this man gives you advice for making more AP, listen.
I am aware who he is , but his argument would not apply to a ¨casual gamer¨
Everyone starts somewhere, there is no reason that a casual gamer can't improve their gameplay via experience to a point where its' doable. Nobody walked into Cyro on their first day and knew it all.
not even the dk who sees all, knows all, and kills all??
Not even him!Fat Grim Reaper - (m)Dragon Knight AR28
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PhatGrimReaper✭✭✭✭✭One does wonder how long it takes to learn how to point their own factions siege in the wrong direction tho.....?Fat Grim Reaper - (m)Dragon Knight AR28
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EpicRekkoning✭✭✭Thanks everyone for the advice and opinions. I am a person that would prefer to learn so I can make the best of my time and then teach others.
Maybe I should have been a dk so I would know everything already
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Yorubuke✭EpicRekkoning wrote: »I have one VR 16 character and haven't pvp much. I want to build up my alliance points for Vigor. I usually play early mornings when there's not a lot of people on. Is there a good way to solo grind AP with tossing rapid regen on a zerg? I don't mind spending time or grinding the points out, I just want to maximize my efforts. I appreciate any advice or suggestions.
I play Solo on Azura for about half my online time. Im running a Magic NB Healer/DPS. Best way to earn AP as Solo player is Go castle to castle playing defence. Or follow a huge group and heal them as they take castles. i got a 6900 AP tick earlier playing solo defending BRK from red and blue. during that whole seige i probably made around 10k AP. if u repair walls after ull get even moreFor the Dominion.
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ScarecrowBoat✭✭✭PhatGrimReaper wrote: »One does wonder how long it takes to learn how to point their own factions siege in the wrong direction tho.....?
You'll get there one dayFANTASIAAAAAAAAAAGM of SBHMember of Zerona's Fan Boy ClubHow do i get out of cyrodiil0 -
Rylana✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭ScarecrowBoat wrote: »PhatGrimReaper wrote: »PhatGrimReaper wrote: »Running with a zerg will not make you a lot of points. The multiplier that @CamBam370 mentioned can be seen in my spreadsheet (click for link).
Large groups do not make more AP - as I've shown many times. The most AP is almost always made by the people who play in groups of 2-6.
Right now, a zerg will make a bit more than 100 AP per kill if the person being killed hasn't died in the last 5 minutes. A group of 2 will make about 500 AP (small groups and solo players get the 20% AP buff, and large groups don't as load screen times are horribly long when in large groups). You won't be able to fight an opposing zerg, though you can take out targets one by one on their back lines or in the path that they use to run back to fights.
The easiest way to make AP is to have a very high damage build, and just kill people. Doing so at a keep is likely easiest as you'll have advantages to defence. I suggest finding a duelling group and learn more about how to win fights on your own, and a PvP guild where you can form small groups (2-6 players) with a good composition (1 healer, 1 support, 4 damage OR everyone damage with their own self sustain healing).
- I specifically remember someone at zos mentioning the idea that their is a mulitplier this update, that is why they are nerfing that multiplier next update. Two max of 50% per kill.
- Yes a high damage build can get you lots of ap if you gave the right class.
- And no i do not recommend a small group for a casual gamer
Due to the fact that they will not tower farm
And new player will not last as long as more pro ones
Why would someone want to sit around and duel all day that simply only gets you ap if you actually kill the person or if someone in your group does.
Open field combat is much better at getting ap
That 20% ap buff is applied to the less populated alliance not the smaller group.
I play on console and i tested this over and over and it clearly shows you will get more ap in zergs
Brah, the dude you are contradicting is an absolute AP monster. When this man gives you advice for making more AP, listen.
I am aware who he is , but his argument would not apply to a ¨casual gamer¨
Everyone starts somewhere, there is no reason that a casual gamer can't improve their gameplay via experience to a point where its' doable. Nobody walked into Cyro on their first day and knew it all.
not even the dk who sees all, knows all, and kills all??
Is it bad that I legit taught him virtually everything he knows?
Like, not even kidding, he was my apprentice in TKO way back in the day. @rylanadionysis == Closed Beta Tester October 2013 == Retired October 2016 == Uninstalled @ One Tamriel Release == Inactive Indefinitely
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PhatGrimReaper✭✭✭✭✭ScarecrowBoat wrote: »PhatGrimReaper wrote: »One does wonder how long it takes to learn how to point their own factions siege in the wrong direction tho.....?
You'll get there one day
I doubt that very much.Fat Grim Reaper - (m)Dragon Knight AR28
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Rylana✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭EpicRekkoning wrote: »I have one VR 16 character and haven't pvp much. I want to build up my alliance points for Vigor. I usually play early mornings when there's not a lot of people on. Is there a good way to solo grind AP with tossing rapid regen on a zerg? I don't mind spending time or grinding the points out, I just want to maximize my efforts. I appreciate any advice or suggestions.
I play Solo on Azura for about half my online time. Im running a Magic NB Healer/DPS. Best way to earn AP as Solo player is Go castle to castle playing defence. Or follow a huge group and heal them as they take castles. i got a 6900 AP tick earlier playing solo defending BRK from red and blue. during that whole seige i probably made around 10k AP. if u repair walls after ull get even more
Defense tick leeching is actually the worst way to get AP. It seems like a lot, but its nothing compared to running in a solid 8-12 man and just annihilating everything you run across. 10k AP/hr vs 35k+ AP/hr is serious business.
Dont even need to resource farm, just kill things, roam around and obliterate people as they pass through, outside keeps, at bridge, nikel, milegates, siegelines. Mobility and mass destruction will get you more AP than any defensive position.@rylanadionysis == Closed Beta Tester October 2013 == Retired October 2016 == Uninstalled @ One Tamriel Release == Inactive Indefinitely
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CamBam370✭✭✭I do not zerg personally because my build is not meant for it . But whatever , i am dome trying to talk to a big headed tryhard.
The ESO community is great.....................Edited by CamBam370 on February 18, 2016 5:21AM0 -
Rylana✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Way to make fun of the dk that tries to help , i do not zerg personally because my build is not meant for it .
The ESO community is great.....................
We arent talking about you, its an inside joke.@rylanadionysis == Closed Beta Tester October 2013 == Retired October 2016 == Uninstalled @ One Tamriel Release == Inactive Indefinitely
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Aldmeri Dominion: Rylana Dionysis - DK - AR 25 == Kailiana - NB - AR 21 == Minerva Dionysis - Temp - AR 21 == Victoria Dionysis - Sorc - AR 13
Daggerfall Covenant: Dannika Dionysis - DK - AR 21 == The Catman Rises - Temp - AR 15 (Former Emperor of Blackwater Blade)
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GRxKnight✭✭✭✭✭ScarecrowBoat wrote: »PhatGrimReaper wrote: »PhatGrimReaper wrote: »Running with a zerg will not make you a lot of points. The multiplier that @CamBam370 mentioned can be seen in my spreadsheet (click for link).
Large groups do not make more AP - as I've shown many times. The most AP is almost always made by the people who play in groups of 2-6.
Right now, a zerg will make a bit more than 100 AP per kill if the person being killed hasn't died in the last 5 minutes. A group of 2 will make about 500 AP (small groups and solo players get the 20% AP buff, and large groups don't as load screen times are horribly long when in large groups). You won't be able to fight an opposing zerg, though you can take out targets one by one on their back lines or in the path that they use to run back to fights.
The easiest way to make AP is to have a very high damage build, and just kill people. Doing so at a keep is likely easiest as you'll have advantages to defence. I suggest finding a duelling group and learn more about how to win fights on your own, and a PvP guild where you can form small groups (2-6 players) with a good composition (1 healer, 1 support, 4 damage OR everyone damage with their own self sustain healing).
- I specifically remember someone at zos mentioning the idea that their is a mulitplier this update, that is why they are nerfing that multiplier next update. Two max of 50% per kill.
- Yes a high damage build can get you lots of ap if you gave the right class.
- And no i do not recommend a small group for a casual gamer
Due to the fact that they will not tower farm
And new player will not last as long as more pro ones
Why would someone want to sit around and duel all day that simply only gets you ap if you actually kill the person or if someone in your group does.
Open field combat is much better at getting ap
That 20% ap buff is applied to the less populated alliance not the smaller group.
I play on console and i tested this over and over and it clearly shows you will get more ap in zergs
Brah, the dude you are contradicting is an absolute AP monster. When this man gives you advice for making more AP, listen.
I am aware who he is , but his argument would not apply to a ¨casual gamer¨
Everyone starts somewhere, there is no reason that a casual gamer can't improve their gameplay via experience to a point where its' doable. Nobody walked into Cyro on their first day and knew it all.
not even the dk who sees all, knows all, and kills all??
Is it bad that I legit taught him virtually everything he knows? Like, not even kidding, he was my apprentice in TKO way back in the day.
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reften✭✭✭✭✭Play defence at keeps and while the horde of players run off chasing the remaining enemies stay on the keep grounds until you get the tick. Between defending keep checking the map for siege on keeps so you can get there before it flags.
Also don't be a hero standing in the keep grounds when the outer comes down, get inside before it breaks so you can see what's going on and then go to the front door to lure the players silly enough to come at you. Never over reach because you don't want to die and have the tick go off while you riding back
This.
Or, if you're yellow...go find where blue and red are fighting and shoot some ranged AoEs....then go hide.
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Beastnas✭✭✭The OP did ask for solo tips (i.e. neither a zerg nor a 6-12man farm group). Obviously it's going to be slower as a solo, and does require a good amount of personal skill.
I always found taking and defending resources to be a decent source. Even just 2 or 3 kills by yourself could net upwards of 3-5k.
Ganking the stream of reinforcements to a siege is also pretty fun, as is getting in a few AoEs at fight between the other two factions.1 -
Skinzz✭✭✭✭✭Just follow the higher ranked pvp guys and aid them when they fight etc. Kill everything u see.Anybody got a group? LFG, anybody? Hello?0 -
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✭Running with a zerg will not make you a lot of points. The multiplier that @CamBam370 mentioned can be seen in my spreadsheet (click for link).
Large groups do not make more AP - as I've shown many times. The most AP is almost always made by the people who play in groups of 2-6.
Right now, a zerg will make a bit more than 100 AP per kill if the person being killed hasn't died in the last 5 minutes. A group of 2 will make about 500 AP (small groups and solo players get the 20% AP buff, and large groups don't as load screen times are horribly long when in large groups). You won't be able to fight an opposing zerg, though you can take out targets one by one on their back lines or in the path that they use to run back to fights.
The easiest way to make AP is to have a very high damage build, and just kill people. Doing so at a keep is likely easiest as you'll have advantages to defence. I suggest finding a duelling group and learn more about how to win fights on your own, and a PvP guild where you can form small groups (2-6 players) with a good composition (1 healer, 1 support, 4 damage OR everyone damage with their own self sustain healing).
- I specifically remember someone at zos mentioning the idea that their is a mulitplier this update, that is why they are nerfing that multiplier next update. Two max of 50% per kill.
- Yes a high damage build can get you lots of ap if you gave the right class.
- And no i do not recommend a small group for a casual gamer
Due to the fact that they will not tower farm
And new player will not last as long as more pro ones
Why would someone want to sit around and duel all day that simply only gets you ap if you actually kill the person or if someone in your group does.
Open field combat is much better at getting ap
That 20% ap buff is applied to the less populated alliance not the smaller group.
I play on console and i tested this over and over and it clearly shows you will get more ap in zergs
As a console player and one of the best solo AP farmers I have to disagree. Playing in large groups will not get you more, in fact large groups usually just slow me down. I've gotten emp multiple times solo and dominated the leaderboards by myself. The top ap farmers I know are all solo/small group players.
Can everyone do it? Probably not but that's because people still don't know how to get ap as much as they think they do (especially console players)
I actually started this game playing in large groups like the first few weeks because I was learning still then once I found out how ap works I started playing ungrouped the majority of the time.
It's more so an opinion that you have to zerg to get ap, this leads to people assuming you zerg because you get a lot of ap and that's very untrue.
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Regardless of class. I have a NB, a DK, and now a Templar who are all able to make good AP.
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