I do know how to play but as a Magicka NB with crappy gear as he's a low level its not easy to cut down through shields

Shields having a cast time would be fine. If I were a Sorc, I'd blink behind an object and re-apply my shield. Simples.

If I'm being zerged on, I won't be able to spam my shields but I'd be able to blink away and quickly reapply one, especially if you blink through the enemies to stun them to then reapply your shield. Simples.

I say blink, I mean streak.. it's a WoW thing.

x_Nathan_F wrote: »

I was 1 v 1ing a guy any suggestions? Literally almost had him then he shield stacked

Run. That's all we can do against a shield-stacker. Seriously though, go with 1h & Shield (back bar) and Defensive Stance to reflect their crystal frags. It's awesome.

Molag_Crow wrote: »

Shields having a cast time would be fine. If I were a Sorc, I'd blink behind an object and re-apply my shield. Simples.

If I'm being zerged on, I won't be able to spam my shields but I'd be able to blink away and quickly reapply one, especially if you blink through the enemies to stun them to then reapply your shield. Simples.

I say blink, I mean streak.. it's a WoW thing.

yes because streak was not nerfed already along with sheilds being nerfed by cp, sheild breaker set and 50% strength reduction. Many were relying
on a bit too much and taking advantage of the scaling by putting 100 points in bastion, stacking harness, healing and hardened Ward with 45+ Magika, but adding a cast time is not the way to handle this. Adding a cast time is a good way to make the game feel even more clunky and dumbed down like how the animation cancelling change had done.
Doing things like removing stacking and makin sheilds critable and adjusting how the strength scales seems a hell of a lot better then adding more clunky gameplay to the lagfest that is eso pvp.

x_Nathan_F wrote: »

No more shield spamming

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If they give Ward a cast time, they need to do the same with cloak, BoL, flappy wings, etc. And I am not saying this as a Sorc (I play all the classes). Really, if you complain a Sorc can spam shields, then you must also complain a NB can stealth away or complain Templars can heal thru most burst damage (heal themselves and allies at the same time). Every class has a survival mechanism. Just because you cannot bypass it doesn't mean the class should be destroyed.

Shield stacking is a problem, but most decent Sorcs do not stack shields in PvP (on my Sorc I only run Hardened ward in PvP) (and again, if you see an issue with spamming HW, then you must also complain about cloak, BoL, and Wing spams). Anyway, the devs need to address shield stacking in PvP, but need to do so delicately as eliminating stacking in general would have an adverse effect on PvE. PvE groups will often layer shields, both individually and as a team...Harness, Healing Ward, Bone Shield, Igneous, Barrier etc.

I still believe the only way there will be true balance is if we have separate profiles for PvE and PvP which would allow the devs to change mechanics and skills independent of each other.

Moderator edit - post edited for flaming/bashing

My spell damage with a buff is around 2630 I apologise that I dislike shield stackers and even worse when they sit in their mines but that's just what I think

x_Nathan_F wrote: »

I do know how to play but as a Magicka NB with crappy gear as he's a low level its not easy to cut down through shields

Being under leveled and wearing crappy gear will make it difficult to cut anyone down. Every stam build can easily vigor thru your pillow fight, and magicka have plenty heals/shields. Why single out sorcs?

So many nerfs in this game are the result of extremely biased complaints. Play both PvE and PvP, and play all the classes and you see things in a more unbiased perspective.

SemiD4rkness wrote: »

Sorcerers are the new nightblades, now they will defend their class until the end of times telling people left and right to l2p.
Yea I have to learn how to block/dodge every 10k procced frag, burst through your 20k+ shields that you can recast instantly, try to fight you under 10k mines so you can streak away recast shield and put mines again LOL.

Wow. You know what I'd do? Use a bow? 3 dodges and sorc is out of stamina and dead?! No mines to worry about and only frags to dodge. L2p I've just done it for you. Problem solved.

Lol that's the forums for you. You mention class changes and a lot of people instantly think you're asking for nerfs or something!

Molag_Crow wrote: »

aLi3nZ wrote: »

Molag_Crow wrote: »

Shields having a cast time would be fine. If I were a Sorc, I'd blink behind an object and re-apply my shield. Simples.

If I'm being zerged on, I won't be able to spam my shields but I'd be able to blink away and quickly reapply one, especially if you blink through the enemies to stun them to then reapply your shield. Simples.

I say blink, I mean streak.. it's a WoW thing.

yes because streak was not nerfed already along with sheilds being nerfed by cp, sheild breaker set and 50% strength reduction. Many were relying
on a bit too much and taking advantage of the scaling by putting 100 points in bastion, stacking harness, healing and hardened Ward with 45+ Magika, but adding a cast time is not the way to handle this. Adding a cast time is a good way to make the game feel even more clunky and dumbed down like how the animation cancelling change had done.

I understand... maybe they should just not allow more than 1 shield at a time? like if you have your Sorc shield up and then cast Harness Magicka, Harness Magicka overwrites your Sorc shield, and the same goes for Healing Ward, or something like that.

Although I guess that wouldn't change a thing since whenever the Sorc is low health, they'd just pop Healing Ward then their sorc shield after.
b]Edited after some thought...[/b

Well imo, it would make quite a difference and take more skill. You can quite easily damage healing Ward a lot and therefor remove the Ward from actually doing any healing.
I would suggest they make sheilds critable and remove their ability to stack. Personally I only run hardened Ward in pvp and its around 7k because I prefer other cps to invest in and only have 29k Magika. People tend to greatly exaggerate the strength of the sheilds they are fighting. I guess it helps them feel better. I haven't seen anyone with the sheild numbers people mention and I have seen a lot of builds and good players on the pts.

Wild_squirtle wrote: »

I main a Sorc. I just started to pvp. I can already tell that shield stacking is why i am able to 1v1 with really no problems. Sorc vs sorc is the most obnoxious fight in game. Its a wet noodle fight. I understand why ppl hate on sheild but adding a cast animation or a cast time is a bad way to handle it. Just make them critable. Will apeal to most builds.

Yes very true and good idea I don't understand why people are so defensive I had an opinion which was being happy and now people are getting mad >.>

Refuse2GrowUp wrote: »

x_Nathan_F wrote: »

The thing is I never asked for the nerf I was just happy
And yes I apologise if I angered you sorcs and ik there are problems with other classes I personally see sorcerers as the strongest class

Which is why Cyrodiil is currently 90% Night Blades?? You see Sorcs as the strongest class simply because they are your counter (so to speak), just as every Mag Sorc has to deal with the massive burst, stealth, burst of NBs and to Sorcs (and most others) NBs are OP. It is a matter of perspective.

I agree that Mag Sorcs and NBs are both powerful and effective in PvP; neither should be complaining because both are in a great spot. Stam DKs are in a pretty good spot as well. Unfortunately, Templars and mag DKs get left behind. Thing is, if both magica Sorcs and NBs are borderline OP, then I would rather see Templars and Magicka DKs buffed and elevated to useful status.

I don't mean to over react to your post, or be rude or condescending in anyway. Simply, the forums are overrun with calls for nerfs and whines and complaints. Very easy to get perturbed by even the most genuine of complaints.

Thank you I again didn't ask for the nerf and I agree that NB cloak nerf is good as it helps DKS and Templars