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Immobilization and the dodge roll cool down
Strider_Roshin
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You should not activate the cool down for dodge rolling when using it to get out of a root, nor should there be any additional cost. The fact that there is makes killing stamina builds quite easy as a magicka user. This needs to be rectified.
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whiteshadow711jppreub18_ESO✭✭✭✭✭
✭Strider_Roshin wrote: »You should not activate the cool down for dodge rolling when using it to get out of a root, nor should there be any additional cost. The fact that there is makes killing stamina builds quite easy as a magicka user. This needs to be rectified.
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✭Didn't you get the memo, ZOS just like magicka builds. you see it in the CP tree, dodge roll nerf, block nerf and the SS wrobel admits is OP but doesn't see a reason to change it0 -
NBrookus✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭Strider_Roshin wrote: »You should not activate the cool down for dodge rolling when using it to get out of a root, nor should there be any additional cost. The fact that there is makes killing stamina builds quite easy as a magicka user. This needs to be rectified.
It makes it really easy to kill magicka users, too, as a break free and a roll dodge is about it for the stamina pool.3 -
Strider_Roshin✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Strider_Roshin wrote: »You should not activate the cool down for dodge rolling when using it to get out of a root, nor should there be any additional cost. The fact that there is makes killing stamina builds quite easy as a magicka user. This needs to be rectified.
It makes it really easy to kill magicka users, too, as a break free and a roll dodge is about it for the stamina pool.
Typical stamina attack range: 5m
Typical magicka attack range: 28m
Sure it affects both play styles, but guess who it affects dramatically more?1 -
Whatzituyah✭✭✭✭Why not just swap to a bow at that point to nail the caster?
Bow Skills
Look at venom arror specifically it can knock casters off balance.https://twitch.tv/whatzituyah2
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FriedEggSandwich✭✭✭✭✭
✭Strider_Roshin wrote: »You should not activate the cool down for dodge rolling when using it to get out of a root, nor should there be any additional cost. The fact that there is makes killing stamina builds quite easy as a magicka user. This needs to be rectified.
It makes it really easy to kill magicka users, too, as a break free and a roll dodge is about it for the stamina pool.
Was thinking the same thing lol. Don't disagree with the op but magicka builds need to dodge-roll out of roots too, and we have less stam and stam regen.PC | EU0 -
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✭Strider_Roshin wrote: »Strider_Roshin wrote: »You should not activate the cool down for dodge rolling when using it to get out of a root, nor should there be any additional cost. The fact that there is makes killing stamina builds quite easy as a magicka user. This needs to be rectified.
It makes it really easy to kill magicka users, too, as a break free and a roll dodge is about it for the stamina pool.
Typical stamina attack range: 5m
Typical magicka attack range: 28m
Sure it affects both play styles, but guess who it affects dramatically more?
I'd still say it affected magicka users more simply because they have less stam. Can't think of many 28m roots. Why does range affect ones need to shake a root?PC | EU0 -
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✭✭✭Try using an Eagle Eye set (adds 3m to bow attack range) and Propelling Shield ("increases the range of abilities with a range greater than 20 meters by 4 meters") and see how surprised someone is to be hit by a Lethal Arrow at 42 meters and "afflicts enemy with Major Defile, which reduces the effectiveness of healing on them by 30% for 10 seconds" after the CP passives change in the Thieves Guild update so that poison comes under the rubric of physical damage. Bow skills hit harder the father away they are, too.
Did I mention that the range is then 42 meters for a stamina skill (admittedly, Propelling Shield is expensive but it lasts 20 seconds and makes it hard to even see wtf is going on underneath it, and I don't think a staff user can even tab target you at that range. Dodge roll for major expedition. Especially if you happen to hit them while wearing the now 100% proc rate Mephala set and snare them by 50% and deal 9000 damage or so over 10 seconds.
I've never played a straight-up dedicated Bow user, though, so this is just something my poor stam sorc does for fun.1 -
corrosivechains✭✭✭✭✭yeah, magicka builds have it so much harder cause when they run out of stamina they get locked out of all their skills...owait...."Could you post me a link to the official MMO rule book please." - clayandaudrey_ESO1 -
DynastyIXII✭✭✭corrosivechains wrote: »yeah, magicka builds have it so much harder cause when they run out of stamina they get locked out of all their skills...owait....
Because how much stamina does it cost for you to spam wb.PS4 NA0 -
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✭✭✭✭FriedEggSandwich wrote: »Strider_Roshin wrote: »You should not activate the cool down for dodge rolling when using it to get out of a root, nor should there be any additional cost. The fact that there is makes killing stamina builds quite easy as a magicka user. This needs to be rectified.
It makes it really easy to kill magicka users, too, as a break free and a roll dodge is about it for the stamina pool.
Was thinking the same thing lol. Don't disagree with the op but magicka builds need to dodge-roll out of roots too, and we have less stam and stam regen.
I don't disagree with the OP either, just pointing out the pain is shared. I don't really understand why they felt like they had to nerf blocking, dodging AND escaping via streak. Now templar heals. Damage keeps going up, active mitigation keeps being suppressed.
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✭✭Stamina builds are still better than magicka.
L2P op.Profanity filter is a crime against the freedom of speech. Also gags.0 -
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✭✭That's a cool alternative but that mean's you could roll out of every single ambush with no cost penalty. Making all other gap closer's the go to.
It's a neat idea but it would not change anything. A better solution would be to have the 4 second cd static and not reset per roll. I could potential roll every 3.99 second's and loose all my stamina. Were preventing people from rolling back to back to back to back. You would need to increase this cd to 6 second's but it's better then what we have now. Rolling 3 time's in 6 second's is manage-able but not being able to roll every 4 second's is difficult, especially once the new pts change's are in play.
Edited by GreenSoup2HoT on February 17, 2016 5:19AMPS4 NA DC0 -
Strider_Roshin✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Stamina builds are still better than magicka.
L2P op.
Lol it's the opposite actually. Both stamina and magicka can have similar damage output (with the exception of magicka sorcs, they can have 45k DPS with overload), but magicka has better survivability with stronger heals and damage shields.0 -
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✭✭✭RAGUNAnoOne wrote: »
I feel like people don't realize that 7 meters equates to 23 feet.0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Agreed. One of type options:
1) Free or 75% cost roll dodge to exit a root
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2) 60k damage shield when inside a root
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