Should ZOS sell NEW emotes in the Crown Store ?

Asmodean · February 2016

No

Gidorick wrote: »

I'm surprised at all the "No" responses to be honest. My view is much closer to @jamesharv2005ub17_ESO

jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »

I dont know how much but why not sell emotes. They give you no advantage.

That's not really the point. People should stop promoting stuff like this. Where every little thing is being charged for. If they were to add further emotes to the game, they should be included in a patch, or even a dlc.. maybe.

You bought the game, you either pay sub, or purchase each DLC that gets released...why should we have to pay for every little extra thing they decide to put into the game... it's not a F2P.

Stop promoting obnoxious sales tactics, is the point. We're players, not milking machines.

jamesharv2005ub17_ESO · February 2016

Yes

Asmodean wrote: »

Gidorick wrote: »

I'm surprised at all the "No" responses to be honest. My view is much closer to @jamesharv2005ub17_ESO

jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »

I dont know how much but why not sell emotes. They give you no advantage.

That's not really the point. People should stop promoting stuff like this. Where every little thing is being charged for. If they were to add further emotes to the game, they should be included in a patch, or even a dlc.. maybe.

You bought the game, you either pay sub, or purchase each DLC that gets released...why should we have to pay for every little extra thing they decide to put into the game... it's not a F2P.

Stop promoting obnoxious sales tactics, is the point.

This is a for profit company. Emotes are not required to play the game. Hell I dont even know when youd use em. If they can make money off those I dont see why not. The game might not be f2p but it doesnt require a subscription. If you pay a sub per month you will have plenty of crowns to buy emotes if you dont want to earn them in the game.

Lord_Wrath · February 2016

No

Absolutely not, why would I want to waste crowns on something I already have? I agree with Asmodean, people need to stop promoting stuff thats going to make us lose/pay for what we already have in the first place.

Marrtha · February 2016

Yes

Why not? There probably already are some emotes we don't have access too.
The game needs to be funded somehow, it cannot run for free.
So if you don't support it - don't buy it if they release it. Bye.

Kendaric · February 2016

No

I think new emotes should be available from achievements and quest chains. While I'm not completely opposed to the idea of selling them in the store, I'd rather not have that.

Gidorick · February 2016

Yes

Lord_Wrath wrote: »

Absolutely not, why would I want to waste crowns on something I already have? I agree with Asmodean, people need to stop promoting stuff thats going to make us lose/pay for what we already have in the first place.

I'm not suggesting they REMOVE the emotes we have to sell them in the crown store @Lord_Wrath ... That would be a ludicrous suggestion. I'm suggesting NEW emotes. I didn't think I had to be clear about that.. but I'll clarify in the OP.

SantieClaws · February 2016

Yes

I'd much, much rather there were new emotes in game - I just don't think they will do that sadly.

I want them and sadly I think the only way I will get them is if I show my crowns.

Same as I'd hope for lots of new costumes, mounts and pets that could be earned in game - don't think we will see that ever either.

I understand those saying no because I don't like the idea of buying them either - but if it is a choice between that and not having them at all then I know where my vote is going.

Gidorick · February 2016

Yes

Kendaric wrote: »

I think new emotes should be available from achievements and quest chains. While I'm not completely opposed to the idea of selling them in the store, I'd rather not have that.

Are they available in such a say now @Kendaric ? We do have trophies from the core ESO:TU game. Did Imperial City or Wrothgar add any new emotes?

jamesharv2005ub17_ESO · February 2016

Yes

Gidorick wrote: »

Lord_Wrath wrote: »

Absolutely not, why would I want to waste crowns on something I already have? I agree with Asmodean, people need to stop promoting stuff thats going to make us lose/pay for what we already have in the first place.

I'm not suggesting they REMOVE the emotes we have to sell them in the crown store @Lord_Wrath ... That would be a ludicrous suggestion. I'm suggesting NEW emotes. I didn't think I had to be clear about that.. but I'll clarify in the OP.

I seriously doubt they would remove all emotes then charge us individually for them. Guy is being kinda paranoid. I assume these would be new emotes.

EsoRecon · February 2016

No

Gidorick wrote: »

Pretty simple question. Since we don't seem to be getting them from DLCs Should ZOS Sell NEW emotes in the Crown Store?

Please elaborate on your vote below!
If YES, which emotes should they sell and for how much should they sell them?

If NO, why not?

This IS NOT Destiny.

WalkingLegacy · February 2016

No

jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »

WalkingLegacy wrote: »

Gidorick wrote: »

I'm surprised at all the "No" responses to be honest. My view is much closer to @jamesharv2005ub17_ESO

jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »

I dont know how much but why not sell emotes. They give you no advantage.

They are completely inconsequential to anything else in ESO. They are barely even cosmetic yet those who love them really do enjoy using them.

I don't understand reactions like yours @WalkingLegacy , why would this be THE thing that makes you quit ESO?

How did LOTRO add emotes to their game @wenxue2222b16_ESO ?

I agree with @mattymaats that, ideally, we should get them as unlocks in the game but ESO has been out for almost 2 years now and it hasn't happened yet... read into that what you will.

Pretty simple, emotes are a staple of MMOs. The regular ones we are all use to should already be in the game and fancier, updated ones added in DLC when appropriate. (Like a pickpocket emote with thieves guild)

When a company starts to nickel and dime for little things like this, I'm out. Cash shops are already very lucrative with mounts, pets, and costumes... Not to mention XP pots and such.

Most likely it would be emotes you could get in the game or buy via the store. Not exclusively available only from the store. Even if it was tho who cares. You dont need an emote to play the game.

Because I don't believe in the nickel and dime philosophy of business and will not support it. It's not the end of the world to leave a video game

Gidorick · February 2016

Yes

Asmodean wrote: »

We're players, not milking machines.

The response of every executive of every MMO ever to this statement:

Well, except for EVE execs.

Glaiceana · February 2016

Yes

Why not

As long as it's a fair price. We don't have many low crown items. Perhaps an emote pack of 20 for 100 or 50 crowns. I'd love emotes for werewolf form. Only /playdead is compatible.

WalkingLegacy · February 2016

No

Gidorick wrote: »

Asmodean wrote: »

We're players, not milking machines.

The response of every executive of every MMO ever to this statement:

Well, except for EVE execs.

I love what EVE has to offer but such a steep entry to get into the game. Have tried many times.

Star Citizen is right around the corner though.

Sadly the GIF is for every company trying to milk profit without any thought to the quality of the product they offer back.

LMar · February 2016

No

No, let us pay for DLCs but not for emotes. Emotes should be quality of life updates. If you include too many basic things to buy you end up crippling the player base and frustrate them, leading to a lot of people leaving. People leaving = less money for ESO.

Asmodean · February 2016

No

Gidorick wrote: »

Asmodean wrote: »

We're players, not milking machines.

The response of every executive of every MMO ever to this statement:

Well, except for EVE execs.

jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »

Asmodean wrote: »

Gidorick wrote: »

I'm surprised at all the "No" responses to be honest. My view is much closer to @jamesharv2005ub17_ESO

jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »

I dont know how much but why not sell emotes. They give you no advantage.

That's not really the point. People should stop promoting stuff like this. Where every little thing is being charged for. If they were to add further emotes to the game, they should be included in a patch, or even a dlc.. maybe.

You bought the game, you either pay sub, or purchase each DLC that gets released...why should we have to pay for every little extra thing they decide to put into the game... it's not a F2P.

Stop promoting obnoxious sales tactics, is the point.

This is a for profit company. Emotes are not required to play the game. Hell I dont even know when youd use em. If they can make money off those I dont see why not. The game might not be f2p but it doesnt require a subscription. If you pay a sub per month you will have plenty of crowns to buy emotes if you dont want to earn them in the game.

While I may be an old school thinker, in these terms... Imo, this is the core problem with the games 'industry' these days. You shouldn't get into games development with the primarly/sole goal of making money.. Sure you want to make money, but that shouldn't be the primary goal. It should be because you love creating games.

If gaming 'execs' as you put it were completely focused on money, they should get into business. Not the arts.

It's the corporate fatcats that are evenually going to kill this medium. They're going to milk it dry until it's ruined, and then move on the the next global 'thing' that makes them quick money.

Right, I'm outtie, before I derail too much ;p

Forestd16b14_ESO · February 2016

Um...... what emotes could they add?

I55UE5 · February 2016

Emotes should be free.

Mementos were just added though, and I could see some cool stuff added to the crown store for that

Knootewoot · February 2016

Yes

Alucardo wrote: »

In my old MMO you could by the gangnam style dance emote. There was a glitch that allowed you to dance while moving at the same time. I'd probably pay for that

Was that "Fallen Earth". I remember doing the "Carlton-dance" emote there all day.

And when I typed this, I thought of it.... gangnam style didn't exist when Fallen Earth came out. But they could have added it to the many dances they already had.

But i vote yes... why not. I would not buy them though.

anitajoneb17_ESO · February 2016

Yes

Gidorick wrote: »

I'm surprised at all the "No" responses to be honest.

Me too. I think emotes are very popular, quite pleasant to use or to watch, and 100% cosmetic => the perfect crown store item.

Katahdin · February 2016

No. Emotes are not a cash shop item.

I was amazed to see how many different emotes there are in this game compared to others. I think GW2 has like 10 tops.

Gidorick · February 2016

Yes

Knootewoot wrote: »

Alucardo wrote: »

In my old MMO you could by the gangnam style dance emote. There was a glitch that allowed you to dance while moving at the same time. I'd probably pay for that

Was that "Fallen Earth". I remember doing the "Carlton-dance" emote there all day.

And when I typed this, I thought of it.... gangnam style didn't exist when Fallen Earth came out. But they could have added it to the many dances they already had.

But i vote yes... why not. I would not buy them though.

Gangnam style dance is actually called the invisible pony. It's been around for a long time.

Strider_Roshin · February 2016

No

I'd rather earn things.

clayandaudrey_ESO · February 2016

Yes

Put all the stuff in there to make money off the rp crowd to fund the game. I am not buying any of it though.

KanedaSyndrome · February 2016

Yes

I'm actually for some emotes being sold in the crown store, but in that case they should make them easier to use instead of having to use slash commands. Also, I'd only pay for more advanced emotes, especially emotes that can be done with another player, like a dance emote that synchronizes or a hug emote. Such stuff.

NewBlacksmurf · February 2016

No

NO
In short, this isn't Destiny and they need to focus on ffixing things and rolling out DLC, not emotes.

Each platform has substantial opportunities.
Perhaps in 2017 when things calm down (if ever) ZOS can look into stuff like this.

Gidorick · February 2016

Yes

Asmodean wrote: »

Gidorick wrote: »

Asmodean wrote: »

We're players, not milking machines.

The response of every executive of every MMO ever to this statement:

Well, except for EVE execs.

jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »

Asmodean wrote: »

Gidorick wrote: »

I'm surprised at all the "No" responses to be honest. My view is much closer to @jamesharv2005ub17_ESO

jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »

I dont know how much but why not sell emotes. They give you no advantage.

That's not really the point. People should stop promoting stuff like this. Where every little thing is being charged for. If they were to add further emotes to the game, they should be included in a patch, or even a dlc.. maybe.

You bought the game, you either pay sub, or purchase each DLC that gets released...why should we have to pay for every little extra thing they decide to put into the game... it's not a F2P.

Stop promoting obnoxious sales tactics, is the point.

This is a for profit company. Emotes are not required to play the game. Hell I dont even know when youd use em. If they can make money off those I dont see why not. The game might not be f2p but it doesnt require a subscription. If you pay a sub per month you will have plenty of crowns to buy emotes if you dont want to earn them in the game.

While I may be an old school thinker, in these terms... Imo, this is the core problem with the games 'industry' these days. You shouldn't get into games development with the primarly/sole goal of making money.. Sure you want to make money, but that shouldn't be the primary goal. It should be because you love creating games.

If gaming 'execs' as you put it were completely focused on money, they should get into business. Not the arts.

It's the corporate fatcats that are evenually going to kill this medium. They're going to milk it dry until it's ruined, and then move on the the next global 'thing' that makes them quick money.

Right, I'm outtie, before I derail too much ;p

I agree with you 100% @Asmodean , in spirit, but to honestly expect large budget games to run in such a way is an exercise in willful ignorance. The artists, the coders, the modelers, the designers... they are all probably in the industry because of the reasons you mentioned, the passion of it all. They do, however, have bosses. Those are the ones who fronted the 200 million bucks to make the game. They have to answer to those individuals if they want to keep their job where they make something they are passionate about.

Reality is a hell of a thing.

One side of the camp we have ZOS doing their best to not make items that would be considered unfair (but would be IMMENSELY profitable), and on the other side we have people clamoring that non-stat effecting items (costumes, pets, mounts, EMOTES) should be in the game and given away for free.

You guys really aren't giving ZOS much freedom as to what is "acceptable" to monetize. They can't just rely on DLC every 3 months, especially if that DLC price is going to stay in the $20-$30 range.

BabeestorGor · February 2016

Yes

The base game has a lot of free emotes and covers the basics pretty well imo.
Some emotes should be free or come with the appropriate CS purchase. Getting your dog to do a trick, your cat to play with yarn, feeding your horse an apple. A couple per pet or mount.
I'd be happy to see other new emotes being added to the CS but they'd have to be pretty cheap for me to purchase them.

Lord_Wrath · February 2016

No

jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »

Gidorick wrote: »

Lord_Wrath wrote: »

Absolutely not, why would I want to waste crowns on something I already have? I agree with Asmodean, people need to stop promoting stuff thats going to make us lose/pay for what we already have in the first place.

I'm not suggesting they REMOVE the emotes we have to sell them in the crown store @Lord_Wrath ... That would be a ludicrous suggestion. I'm suggesting NEW emotes. I didn't think I had to be clear about that.. but I'll clarify in the OP.

I seriously doubt they would remove all emotes then charge us individually for them. Guy is being kinda paranoid. I assume these would be new emotes.

Yea I misread that, oh well everyone will be ok.

bryanhaas · February 2016

No

NO FOR THE LOVE OF GOD NOOOOOO!!!!!

That is one of the many reasons I left Destiny, if they want to give us more emotes fine but they should not cost money. Buying mounts pets and costumes with cash is fine not emotes.