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izJordy
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TBH, i am enjoying pvp'ing ALOT.. i do have some complains though.. YUP ima complain! some will agree, some will not.

so i've been pvping alot and i mean ALOT, got my alliance skill line from lvl 1 to 5 in 3-4 days so mhm i been playing alot of pvp recently.. and something started to *** me off a little bit.. everyone has their own playstyle so i understand but ffs mate.

lets start with the lagg, it can be fine.. but can be bad aswell, i do have moments where the lagg is unreal, cyrodill azura.. moments when it takes 8 seconds to switch ability bar, not any of my abilities work when i press them and i'll end up dieing cause of that..

now the most annoying thing ever.. i could be in a great fight or whatever and some buffed dragonknight runs up to me wrecking blows me, i get up from the ground and he wrecking blows me again.. i counter, i do some damage and he continues to run up to me and wrecking blow me, i'd litteraly die by wrecking blows only, and if i do manage to kill him another guy midfight would run up to me and wrecking blow me aswell.. and not just wrecking blow, most of my fights are people that spamm one button? wrecking blow, wrecking blow, wrecking blow, then NBs i'm a NB myself so not hating, but ambush, ambush, ambush, templar keep spamming the speer or whatever that spell is..

i really dislike the people who are spamming one ability over and over again.. does anyone else get annoyed by this?
  • failkiwib16_ESO
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    pvp'ers tend to slot so many shields and buffs/debuffs that they can't afford to slot many damage skills. The wrecking blow and spear spam works, that is why people use them.

    I use 3 abilities for damage in pvp, but I'm mainly a pve'er ...and too lazy to change skills and gear xD
  • ScooberSteve
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    Try restart game worked fof me and lag. There are also various threads on ways to improve lag by changing game settings. You have to be quick in Cyrodiil. No one is going to stand there and wait for u to be ready. Dodge roll block or run out of range
  • Peel_Ya_Cap_517
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    Careful, if you mention wrecking blow spam on here the neckbeards will wake up out of their Dorito-fueled comas
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  • izJordy
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    Try restart game worked fof me and lag. There are also various threads on ways to improve lag by changing game settings. You have to be quick in Cyrodiil. No one is going to stand there and wait for u to be ready. Dodge roll block or run out of range

    i don't care if they attack me when i'm not "ready" i can still defear them my weapon damage is over 3500 and crit chance over 70% i can do fine, it is Just the people who are spamming 1 ability on me over and over and over again..
  • Maidenname
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    izJordy wrote: »
    TBH, i am enjoying pvp'ing ALOT.. i do have some complains though.. YUP ima complain! some will agree, some will not.

    so i've been pvping alot and i mean ALOT, got my alliance skill line from lvl 1 to 5 in 3-4 days so mhm i been playing alot of pvp recently.. and something started to *** me off a little bit.. everyone has their own playstyle so i understand but ffs mate.

    lets start with the lagg, it can be fine.. but can be bad aswell, i do have moments where the lagg is unreal, cyrodill azura.. moments when it takes 8 seconds to switch ability bar, not any of my abilities work when i press them and i'll end up dieing cause of that..

    now the most annoying thing ever.. i could be in a great fight or whatever and some buffed dragonknight runs up to me wrecking blows me, i get up from the ground and he wrecking blows me again.. i counter, i do some damage and he continues to run up to me and wrecking blow me, i'd litteraly die by wrecking blows only, and if i do manage to kill him another guy midfight would run up to me and wrecking blow me aswell.. and not just wrecking blow, most of my fights are people that spamm one button? wrecking blow, wrecking blow, wrecking blow, then NBs i'm a NB myself so not hating, but ambush, ambush, ambush, templar keep spamming the speer or whatever that spell is..

    i really dislike the people who are spamming one ability over and over again.. does anyone else get annoyed by this?

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  • Tomato
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    Keep playing more PvP and learn how to counter
  • izJordy
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    Tomato wrote: »
    Keep playing more PvP and learn how to counter

    LOL'd, i wanna see you in a 1v4 with templars spamming one ability, dks spamming wrecking blow etc.
  • Molag_Crow
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    I totally agree with you but Templars spamming spear? (Puncturing sweep/Jab) is a 1.1 sec channel time for 4 hits and can be interrupted (via CC) and it's our main, best damage ability, despite the slow dark flare of course. :p
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  • izJordy
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    I totally agree with you but Templars spamming spear? (Puncturing sweep/Jab) is a 1.1 sec channel time for 4 hits and can be interrupted (via CC) and it's our main, best damage ability, despite the slow dark flare of course. :p

    well i'm not saying i'll lose a 1v1 against a templar or anyone who is spamming stuff, but i'd be in a fight with someone and a templar would be spamming puncturing sweep from a distance..

    i find it pretty lame if you spam the same ability over and over again, but honestly idc about ambush spams or anything it is really the wrecking blow that annoys me..

    my point of view: out of nowhere i get hit by something from a templar and fall to the ground, not sure what they use but i'll randomly fall to the ground, and he'd spamm something that does lil damage but hits fast.. then when i'm about to kill him, a dragonknight with lots of buffs and health runs up to me and wrecking blows me and i'll fall to the ground again, as soon as he hits his wrecking blow i can see him charging up for another one, over and over gain, then you have this templar spamming one ability on me aswell, then if i'm unlucky useally a sorcerer comes and does some weird ability that grabs me and gets me stuck.. i know you can counter but ffs.. i can run out of stamina and stuff aswell.. not that easy having people spam you, and idc but i find wrecking blow a lil OP, i hit around 10,000 dmg with that ability.. and it is spamable.

    edit: i'm PS4, EU, loyal to the ebonheart pact ^^ so if you wanna pvp sometime add izJordy ^^
    Edited by izJordy on February 11, 2016 2:15PM
  • Molag_Crow
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    What I'm saying is doing Puncturing Sweeps over and over again is not exactly spam, it's.. important for us, it's necessary. I personally wouldn't put that in the same 'spam boat' as Wrecking Blow/Surprise Attack xD but yeah I know what you mean. I can't stand WB.

    At least in the Thieves Guild patch we may be able to laugh at WB spammers. ;)
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  • izJordy
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    What I'm saying is doing Puncturing Sweeps over and over again is not exactly spam, it's.. important for us, it's necessary. I personally wouldn't put that in the same 'spam boat' as Wrecking Blow/Surprise Attack xD but yeah I know what you mean. I can't stand WB.

    At least in the Thieves Guild patch we may be able to laugh at WB spammers. ;)

    how so? what is going to change lol
  • RatedChaotic
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    Would think that after seeing the same abilities used on you over and over. You would learn how to counter them.
  • izJordy
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    Would think that after seeing the same abilities used on you over and over. You would learn how to counter them.

    cause you can counter in 1v5's
  • BRogueNZ
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    you mean blazing spear? Ranged stun/aoe?

    Anyway, all builds evolved around a spam damage ability and an execute and everything else is geared toward buffing that and staying fresh. Is just the way it is with skills most of them don't synergise with the build or are just down right useless or extremely situational.

    WB is just a extremely hard hitting ability but its actually pretty hard to hit someone with which is why you slammed with every CC in the game even if you should in theory have ' immunity' which is 90% myth.

    Edited by BRogueNZ on February 12, 2016 2:21AM
  • reften
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    If you're a tl;dr I'll sum up

    Fix lag. Nerf wrecking blow
    Edited by reften on February 12, 2016 3:22AM
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  • PhatGrimReaper
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    Clearly Puncturing Sweep is OP in Cyro.... Please Nerf it into the ground!
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  • Bossdonut
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    Clearly Puncturing Sweep is OP in Cyro.... Please Nerf it into the ground!

    They already did actually.
  • PhatGrimReaper
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    Bossdonut wrote: »
    Clearly Puncturing Sweep is OP in Cyro.... Please Nerf it into the ground!

    They already did actually.

    Well, clearly it wasn't enough.... Because when the OP stands in it, it still hurts..... MUST NERF TO THE GROUND NOW!!!!
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  • Duiwel
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    Perhaps using the search function on the forums under PvP might show you if other people also experience this...

    By the way I find that when I spell a lot as two words I have less lag.

    Your crit chance of 70% is also not really 70%...

    More like 3%... There are websites that have done the math and determined what those % actually mean towards actual crits.

    A good sorc can maybe counter 1v5 btw - streak stun all 5, pulsar = -50% hp for 30 seconds, I could theoretically put up a decent fight if I attacked first. Probably still die, but I would die like a man.
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  • Sunburnt_Penguin
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    @duiwel

    Do you have a link or vaguely remember what site it was? Interested to read in to this.
  • Duiwel
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    @Sunburnt_Penguin

    http://tamrielfoundry.com/forum/classes/

    Here is one for Sorc for example :

    http://tamrielfoundry.com/topic/pts-2-1-2-sorcerer-arithmagic/

    There are others too with spreadsheets but this is pretty self explanatory and user friendly.

    I can't find the Google doc spreadsheet link I saved of the most in depth one right now.
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  • Sunburnt_Penguin
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    @Duiwel

    Thanks for that, I'll check them out.
  • wskill
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    The more i read about pvp in eso the more i can say "ah, another game that ruins itself for the sake of the concept of pvp"

    Im never going to bother with it, and that comes from an ultima online veteran world top pvper (yeah well a decennium ago that is)
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  • aLi3nZ
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    If you are fighting 1v4 or even 1v2 against similar skilled players you should expect to die. Players are always gonna choose the skills that do the highest damage and use them to their full potential. Soon you may encounter overload spam, that isn't always so easy to counter. If someone wants to be effective in the battlefield and fight 1vx battles why would they choose to use skills that reduces their dps or make it easier on their victim since they don't apply cc'd. Thankfully as a sourc you would be seeing variety if you fought me. Curse, prox det, frags, crushing shock, streak, heavy fire staff attacks and maybe mage's wrath that lots of people think is essential for sourc but I never can find room for it.
  • aLi3nZ
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    BRogueNZ wrote: »
    you mean blazing spear? Ranged stun/aoe?

    Anyway, all builds evolved around a spam damage ability and an execute and everything else is geared toward buffing that and staying fresh. Is just the way it is with skills most of them don't synergise with the build or are just down right useless or extremely situational.

    WB is just a extremely hard hitting ability but its actually pretty hard to hit someone with which is why you slammed with every CC in the game even if you should in theory have ' immunity' which is 90% myth.
    if it's so hard to hit someone with it why do I still get wb spammed when I am lying flat on the ground after getting hit by an ice comet? Hard to hit someone with it because of dodge chance?

  • izJordy
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    aLi3nZ wrote: »
    BRogueNZ wrote: »
    you mean blazing spear? Ranged stun/aoe?

    Anyway, all builds evolved around a spam damage ability and an execute and everything else is geared toward buffing that and staying fresh. Is just the way it is with skills most of them don't synergise with the build or are just down right useless or extremely situational.

    WB is just a extremely hard hitting ability but its actually pretty hard to hit someone with which is why you slammed with every CC in the game even if you should in theory have ' immunity' which is 90% myth.
    if it's so hard to hit someone with it why do I still get wb spammed when I am lying flat on the ground after getting hit by an ice comet? Hard to hit someone with it because of dodge chance?

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