Do you think they should get rid of cloak for nightblades?

Artjuh90 · February 2016

NO!

Aquanova wrote: »

Lol, I think ZOS will be hearing from alot of stamina night blades after the Thieves Guild patch goes live. With this patch stam NB has little to no mitigation.

Minor protection or what ever the hell it is will not give enough mitigation for a stam build to solo. The changes to Dark Cloak are bad enough for mag builds but they are pretty devastating to stam builds as this was our only option for defense aside from fear, rally and vigor ( if you have it unlocked ). Now the stamina NB has 1 option...kill fast or die.

I want to add people having problems with this blame the meta not the class. Nb are build for quick assasanation. I think most people can agree with this. With the current min/max dps meta this favours the nb. In a tank meta pre 1.5 nb weren't that good. This is whenever i go into cyrodiil/ic on my templar healer i have some points into health so there are just a small group of people can solo burst me down from stealth and i can heal up by using cc and bol. The people who do are high skilled and i'm being fair they would win anyway. This is called adapting to the situation. So less crying about something of what a other player does but rather think. Ok, what can i do to win.
But then people have to think for themselfs and aren't able to blindly copy a build from internet

log234 · February 2016

NO!

When TG drops, I suppose I'll be dodge roll, shuffle, retreating maneuver and vigor chaining to get away.

Father_X_Zombie · February 2016

Don't care

Feisty_Khajiit128 wrote: »

Sorcs have their 10 different shields that all stack, Templars have (had - BoL nerf) good healing, Dragonknights have... whatever Dragonknights have, and Nightblades had cloak. Now, Nightblades have nothing
EDIT: Grammer

Name all 10 said shields plz. I can name 3. All classes can have 2 of those

Derra · February 2016

Yes

I think invisibility at will without drawbacks is ultimately not balanceable.

Ofc this will never happen because the whole class is based around cloaking. I´m just saying it should have never been developed this way.

urkonse · February 2016

NO!

wtf???? is this anouther PVP derps complainment?......CP cap was already too annoying for those who do both pve and pvp....

PLZ make pvp only get those things if its because it..

vamp_emily · February 2016

NO!

I can't believe how much people cry about cloak.

Quit hating on my Nightblade!

Lysette · February 2016

NO!

ajwest927 wrote: »

Anyone who voted no must be a Nightblade

And those who vote YES have no clue about role play and have just selfish reasons to ruin the fun of those who love to play in a stealthy way. NB is a typical ninja-like class and this requires of course to be extremely stealthy.

PURPLE245 · February 2016

NO!

a stealth class with no stealth hmm okays sound like it makes sence

Derra · February 2016

Yes

Lysette wrote: »

ajwest927 wrote: »

Anyone who voted no must be a Nightblade

And those who vote YES have no clue about role play and have just selfish reasons to ruin the fun of those who love to play in a stealthy way. NB is a typical ninja-like class and this requires of course to be extremely stealthy.

Only that in eso mashing cloak requires no skill at all and has absolutely no "ninja" feeling to it in pve. You don´t have to hide as you can literally stand in front of a hostile npc and jump while cloaked.

Troneon · February 2016

Yes

Nuke Nerf Everything!!11!!!

eventide03b14a_ESO · February 2016

Seriously, what's the point of this poll?

SemiD4rkness · February 2016

Yes

@Tryxus Mate you're gonna have a popcorn overdose at this rate

Tryxus · February 2016

Well, when my end comes, I wanna go out with a big POP...corn?

(and a cheesy one-liner)

Hope499 · February 2016

Yes

Fight me like a man.

Also, fight me IRL bro!!!!!!

Dubhliam · February 2016

NO!

First of all: I don't like the idea of separating a negative answer into two poll options.

Secondly: No, I do not play a NB. I made one recently, leveled him to v2 (currently) for the purpose of farming vMA. I am not a PvPer.

To the point: There are many cloak counters at your disposal and in a couple of weeks with Thieves Guild DLC, every Magelight skill will be able to reveal stealth units. One of them even provides stealth damage reduction.

Revealing an enemy from stealth or invisibility with abilities such as Revealing Flare or Magelight now prevents that enemy from casting stealth or invisibility for the duration, rather than letting them re-enter stealth or invisibility but still be visible.

Magelight:
This ability and its morphs are no longer toggle abilities; instead, they will grant their Critical Strike rating benefits as long as they are slotted (similar to Expert Hunter).
Magelight can now be activated to summon a mote of magelight which exposes hidden or invisible enemies in an 8 meter radius for 5 seconds, and prevents revealed enemies from returning to stealth for 5 seconds.
This ability and the Radiant Magelight morph no longer decrease your maximum Magicka, due to the toggle changes noted above.
The Radiant Magelight morph will continue to prevent you from being stunned by stealth attacks, and will reduce damage from stealth attacks while slotted as a morph effect. Activating it also increases the radius of the activated reveal to 12 meters, and reduces the cost.
The Inner Light morph will continue to increase your maximum Magicka while slotted.

Tavore1138 · February 2016

NO!

Either NO! or...

Lets get rid of any and all skills which give any sort of individuality or flavour to a class!

I still think they should have stuck with no defined classes, just a range of skills available to all which we could spend skill points on as we chose - you'd get some crazy builds and balance complaints would be a thing of the past since we'd all have the same chance to use any skill line we chose. Obviously they'd still have to tweak skills that provided mad synergies with each other...

And the forums would be dead without all the 'Nerf Cloak' 'Nerf Sorcs', 'Nerf the person who killed me' threads.

craybest · February 2016

NO!

I'm a NB too (a new one) and I really don't think they should take stealth abilities from us, it's our signatures. far too many games always screw us up because others don't want or don't like to play against stealthed classes. stealth is never perfect, it has always its drawbacks, in here and every other MMO.
taking away signature moves from classes is not the way to go, what's next? taking magic away from mages? because it is that ridiculous.} to us.

Strider_Roshin · February 2016

Yes

They made it useless. Might as well replace it with something useful.

NativeJoe · February 2016

Yes

Feisty_Khajiit128 wrote: »

Sorcs have their 10 different shields that all stack, Templars have (had - BoL nerf) good healing, Dragonknights have... whatever Dragonknights have, and Nightblades had cloak. Now, Nightblades have nothing
EDIT: Grammer

sorcs have 1 more shield then the rest of u can get <.< WARD.

You guys can still use, Bone wall, healing ward, annulment, reviving barrier, brawler, etc. these are not sorc specific.

a night blade could wear parabellum and shield stack.

A templar usually does shield stack.

a DK can shield stack.

Sorcs just shield stack because there is no other defensive option. sure we can get tricky and where runes, streak around, and lay mines, but it's not exactly fun to run for your life constantly.

xboxone1Q · February 2016

Yes

Yes cause I'm main a Templar

That hate us anyway so let's nerf night blades now.

TX12001rwb17_ESO · February 2016

NO!

AK47ZOMBIE66 wrote: »

Feisty_Khajiit128 wrote: »

Sorcs have their 10 different shields that all stack, Templars have (had - BoL nerf) good healing, Dragonknights have... whatever Dragonknights have, and Nightblades had cloak. Now, Nightblades have nothing
EDIT: Grammer

Name all 10 said shields plz. I can name 3. All classes can have 2 of those

I can name more then 3 infact I can name 10 of them.

you have

- Hardened Ward (Sorceror)
- Steadfast Ward (Available to everyone)
- Shield from brawler ability (Available to everyone)
- Shield from shielded assult ability (Available to everyone)
- Obisidan Shield (Dragonknight)
- Feroucis Leap (Dragonknight)
- Hardened Armor (Dragonknight)
- Annulment (Avalible to everyone)
- Sun Shield (Templer)
- Bone Shield (Avalible to everyone)

Nightblades are the only class without a class damage shield so Nightblades need cloak unless you want them to start shieldstacking as well, oh yeah DKS also have that magma armour ultimate that caps all incoming damage at 3% of their max health which basically makes them invincible for 6 seconds but I guess that's not really a damage shield but it might as well be considered as such.

Master_Kas · February 2016

Yes and give me a damage shield which scales of max magicka or max stamina.

Kthxbai.

Master_Kas · February 2016

Volkodav wrote: »

MikeB wrote: »

The only real defensive skill for NB's and it useless now.

Naah.There are several great skill us NBs have.I have one vet who is a NB and I have never used cloak. I use four strong skills,and need neither Cloak,nor any of the Shadow skills.
My main skills are:
Strife
Teleport Strike
Assassin's Blade
Swallow Soul
In that order.The last one is the standard Soul trap.

Good luck trying to survive in PvP with those skills without using cloak/shuffle/doubletake/healingward/vigor xD

Asmodean · February 2016

Ummm.. No...

I don't understand the reasoning behind some peoples opinions to gut a class they don't play. Basically being childish, and spiteful. That your class doesn't have a particular ability you want. So you want it removed from the game.

If you want everyone having the same stuff - why do you even RPG?. Go play an FPS, or MOBA, or such?.

This is why eventually developers literally stop coming to the forums for feedback on their MMOs, after a certain amount of time. Because most of them are totally biased.

attackjet · February 2016

NO!

If they nerf cloak, they need to nerf crouching to be hidden so only night blades can do that

Waseem · February 2016

NO!

Feisty_Khajiit128 wrote: »

Sorcs have their 10 different shields that all stack, Templars have (had - BoL nerf) good healing, Dragonknights have... whatever Dragonknights have, and Nightblades had cloak. Now, Nightblades have nothing
EDIT: Grammer

dragon knights have spell/physical resistance no other class have

marvel_bound · February 2016

NO!

I dont even have a nightblade and say no
Ohhh!!!!!!! the horror if that were to happen........

Shunravi · February 2016

Yes

Waseem wrote: »

Feisty_Khajiit128 wrote: »

Sorcs have their 10 different shields that all stack, Templars have (had - BoL nerf) good healing, Dragonknights have... whatever Dragonknights have, and Nightblades had cloak. Now, Nightblades have nothing
EDIT: Grammer

dragon knights have spell/physical resistance no other class have

which one is that?

Shardaxx · February 2016

Ummm.. No...

I dunno, should they get rid of spells for sorcerers?

Lyrebon · February 2016

Ummm.. No...

If they wanted to nerf cloak in PvP it'd be better to introduce a cooldown before stealthing again and make it a PvP only de-buff, or even introduce the cooldown when attacking from stealth. Every class should have access to a DoTs cleanser, again with the cooldown.