MornaBaine wrote: »

nimander99 wrote: »

BabeestorGor wrote: »

Alucardo wrote: »

I stopped playing my female character. I'd get whispered out of no where a lot more often than my male ones did. I finally gave up playing her when some guy messaging me asking about my sex life. When I told him I was a dude he was like "Yeaah right". He shut up when I threatened to send him dik pics, so perhaps you could try that.

Hmmm, I have 8 feamle char

nimander99 wrote: »

Everyone's so serious about this, is there not an ignore/block player option? So what if someone is being a tool? Tis a fact of life, specially in mmo's (they've been here since the very start, anon ) Seems to me you can just jump to a different shrine and that's that if they are really annoying.

Sorry this became such a prob for the op but I personally think everyone takes everything way too seriously and has far to thin of skin these days... ya darn whipper snappers, try walking up hill to school both ways while being bullied by actual irl physical people

I do and I don't agree with this
Certainly nobody has managed to stop me playing or drive me from a zone but I don't see why I or anyone else should have to put up with ill-mannered brats, never mind the outright racists, sexists, homophobes etc who should just be banned
I think I'm going to start reporting more idiots rather than just ignoring them
Maybe if enough people do this the message will get through that such behaviour isn't acceptable and the game will be a pleasanter place for everyone

Well said, and please don't mistake my tendency to be sarcastic or tongue in cheek in posts like this as not caring, I do care! As this is my favorite game with what I believe to be one of the most mature communities in the mmo market today I want people to enjoy their experiences.

It's certainly bammer to have to ignore zone chat because of the absolutely terrible things said in it but there is a very fine line we walk here between free speech and censorship and as much as it pains me I will always fall on the side of letting people say whatever blather they want then reporting them just because my delicate sensibilities have been offended

I wish people would practice the Golden Rule more often and during regular play I truly think they do, it's just zone chat that these little 14 year old boys go to too say the most hurtful things they can all the while trying to one up each other.

I don't envy the job moderators of mmo's have, both in game and in forums. It's not easy to let people say what they want but also keep a good atmosphere. It's our job as reasonable people to overwhelm the garbage with sensible comments and posts and not feed the trolls. If people say hurtful things and see that it is bothering you then they are getting what they need, the need to make someone as miserable as they are. Best to just be ignored as if they don't even exist.

*Gets off soapbox*

I'm going to have to trot out the old axiom of: Free speech does not mean freedom from the CONSEQUENCE of your speech. I am a die hard Libertarian who has been registered as an Independent voter since I turned 18 more years ago then we're going to discuss here and I say that. So I would like you to please consider the following scenario.

Let's say a player of this game, a woman, has actually been *** at some point in her life. I actually know a few such players because the sad fact is that women getting *** is actually a pretty common experience. Say she's at a roleplaying event in Sentinel. Now some player comes in while questing, sees the emotes going around and because they think roleplayers are a bunch of weirdos they have their character strip down, start dancing, and, oh yeah, the really charming part, they start typing in spatial about how their character is *** this female character, complete with graphic descriptions of violence, genitalia, moaning, more gutter words than you can shake a stick at and how his character is making her bleed with his huge *insert censored word for male anatomy here.* Do you think this woman would NOT be traumatized? GENUINELY distraught? Oh but wait, after she collects herself from the initial shock of his verbal assault she puts him on /ignore so she not longer has to see his sickening, gut wrenching words. Failing to get the reaction from her that he was hoping for, he now merges his character into hers and starts spamming every flashy and noisy ability in his arsenal, literally assaulting her ears and eyes if nothing else.

And your answer to her is, "Don't let it get to you and just leave?" What about the 20 to 40 other people who are also there to have a good time at this event? I guess they all just need to call a halt to what they are doing and leave as well. Perfectly logical solution. NOT. And yes, I have witnessed and been a victim of this EXACT scenario on MULTIPLE OCCASIONS. IN THIS GAME. Fortunately, I have never actually been *** in my life thanks to years of martial arts training and a propensity for carrying weaponry. And yes, I have badly hurt more than one excuse for a man over the years who put his hands on me without my permission. And quite frankly it makes me mad as hell that I can't use any of that on these wastes of flesh that infect this game like a bad STD.

But this whole ludicrous idea that the VICTIM of this type of nonsense is actually the one responsible for ending it by running away smacks to me of all the old *** advice to women. You know. "Don't go out alone." "Don't drink." "Don't wear short skirts." "Don't smile at strange men." All of that advice is wrong because it puts the blame and the responsibility on the VICTIM of *** rather than where it belongs, on the ***.

Everyone who plays this game signs a TOS that tells them very simply that this kind of behavior is not allowed. So there should be ZERO tolerance for this kind of behavior because everyone who plays this game has ALREADY AGREED NOT TO ENGAGE IN IT. So a SINGLE screenshotted instance of it should have them banned permanently. This is NOT a free speech issue. It is a contract issue and every single one of us has signed the contract. You don't like the contract? Don't sign it. Go play some other game.

And just in case you were unaware: Code of Conduct

And here, let me help you with the pertinent bit:

2.5 You may not harass, threaten, embarrass, or cause distress to another customer or guest using ZeniMax sites and Services. This includes but is not limited to verbal attacks, unwanted messaging, personal attacks, stalking or any other undesired behavior used to cause discomfort or disrupt another customer's experience. At all times users will refrain from attacking Age, Race, Disability, Sexual Orientation, National Origin, Pregnancy, Gender or any other protected category under Federal or Maryland State law.

There is no excuse for the kind of behavior being discussed in this thread that many of us are subjected to at least once any time we log in. There is even less excuse for ZOS not cracking down on it.

And lest you think this is a recent thing, take a look here: http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/669684-the-elder-scrolls-online/68590395
That posting is 2 years old. ZOS has ALWAYS known this was a problem and has displayed a pattern of ignoring it. It's really past time for that to end.

slumber_sandb16_ESO wrote: »

People guilty of harrassment should get a 3 day ban. Then a 7 day ban if they do it again. Then a 14 day ban. 30 day ban. 90 day ban. Etc.

Jura23 wrote: »

Pendrillion wrote: »

Still one issue remains about blocking. We can only store 100 users into it... I am pretty at the peak.

If you need to block more than 100 ppl, maybe a problem is on your side.

Axorn wrote: »

BabeestorGor wrote: »

Axorn wrote: »

IrishGirlGamer wrote: »

Axorn wrote: »

RizaHawkeye wrote: »

I am so freaking frustrated right now.

Last night, at approximately 12:00 a.m. my time, I was running a zone when a player began harassing me. The harassment took the form of following me around, making psudeo-sexual gestures, and asking inappropriate personal questions. When I tried to ignore the player, they began casting area spells to annoy me and mess up my game. When I finally stopped asked what was going on, the player responded with another sexually suggestive comment. I turned to leave (I was just trying to complete a quest in that area) and he (and I'm using He as the indefinite pronoun; I acknowledge it could have been a she) began throwing out additional comments, questions, and gestures. I finally told him that if he didn't stop I would report him. He LOLed me and then said he was going to report me for being a prude.

I tried to ignore him but he just continued to follow me. Finally, I did report him (twice, in fact, because he wouldn't stop) once with a screen shot and his character name. But of course, this is the response I got:

Greetings!

Thank you for your inquiry. Please note that our support office is currently closed. Our support hours are between 9am and 10pm Eastern Standard Time, seven days a week. We will investigate your inquiry as soon as we reopen.

Our goal is to investigate and respond to your contact within six business hours.

We appreciate your patience.

Warm Regards,
The Bethesda Support Team

I finally had to logged off to get away from him. I still have not received any further response from Zenimax or Bethesda.

Okay, so here's my question: What can we do about this? Yeah, report it but you can see how effective that is. Normally, I can just brush this adolescent behaivor off, but this person so intent upon interfering with what I was doing that I couldn't even play the freakin game. Yeah, I could have gone to another zone or teleported (for gold) away from the situation. But why should I have to do that?

I can anticipate some responses:

This is an MMO. You have to deal with this stuff.

No, I don't. If that is the response from Zenimax, then give me my money back, including the cost of the game and all the subscriptions I've paid. Is that unreasonable? You bet it is. But so is doing absolutely NOTHING to stop harassment in the game.

Zenimax deals with harassment. They just can't talk about it.

Really? You believe that? That seems to be really easy way of not doing anything and hoping the problem goes away. And clearly, they're not doing anything except during regular business hours.

Grow up and get a thick skin.

You do realize I couldn't play the game. This isn't a thick skin issue; I can fire off snarly responses with the best of them, and I'm happy to walk way from a jerk, if I can go somewhere else and do something else. I am not happy when I have to leave a quest and come back and finish it later because some idiot is intent upon ruining my game.

So my question to Zenimax employees is: How do you anticipate players dealing with this? Really? You made this game. You had to expect this would happen. What do you want players to do?

Yes, twelve hours later, I am still quite angry.

Just LOL. If you are such a weak nerved person then i suggest you should go and play single player elder scrolls games. Because these things happens when you interact with other people get over!!! Also you have a option to ignore that person. He/she can cast any spell around you or on your mobs there is nothing wrong with that.

Maybe my sound is mean but i cant stand baby like people especially in games !!!

As opposed to someone who QQs about how they died in Cyrodiil, how all the classes are unbalanced, and how everything in the game needs to be nerfed??

You're right. I can't stand baby like people in games, either.

Yeah im a baby i need milk

I QQed for the sake of ESO seriously who gives a flying duck about verbal harrassment just ignore and move on.

Oh nooo someone killed me in IC sewers and looted my tel var stones !! BAN THEM ZOS CUZ KILLING AND STEALING IS ILLEGAL AND WRONG IN REAL LIFE

I thought this game was +18. Can't someone do RP of a pervert khajiit for example ?( there is a quest in ESO like that btw) You can be theif or a killer but you cant be a sexual pervert lol why because girls somehow get offended. As a man i would liked to sexualy harrased by women in game.

Also lots of people just doing that for fun they dont even know that char's owner woman or man its kinda RP lots of man playing with female chars.

You should try thinking before posting
PvP isn't harrassment, nobody has suggested that
Flirting isn't harrassment, RP isn't harrassment
To qualify as harrassment it has to continue when it is clear the attention is unwanted
Maybe the people bothered by harrassment are weak and vulnerable and can't stand up for themselves. That doesn't make it acceptable or their fault, it just makes the harrasser a bully

lol "To qualify as harrassment it has to continue when it is clear the attention is unwanted" i dont want people kill me and steal from me its worse than harrasment to me and unwanted whats the diffrence here ?

and ty for advice but i think before post.

RDMyers65b14_ESO wrote: »

OK, as an example. I had 4 different screenshots of the same player teabagging me in PVP over a two day period. I was not the only one who reported him as I know at least three of my group reported him as well. I included in my report that I was a victim of *** as a child and it was traumatic. I didn't see the player for a few weeks. I did see him again and guess who doesn't teabag anymore. I call that a victory.

MornaBaine wrote: »

So what do you guys think will work so easily when you have players trolling a large event? The worst trolls I've encountered are when a large group of people are in an area for an event. Logically, it makes no sense to say 20 or more people need to leave an area because one to a few arsehats decide to come grief them and ruin the event. You tell me how that is supposed to be resolved and I might start taking you seriously. Because you and yoru predecessors in this conversation keep ignoring that scenario.

anitajoneb17_ESO wrote: »

MornaBaine wrote: »

So what do you guys think will work so easily when you have players trolling a large event? The worst trolls I've encountered are when a large group of people are in an area for an event. Logically, it makes no sense to say 20 or more people need to leave an area because one to a few arsehats decide to come grief them and ruin the event. You tell me how that is supposed to be resolved and I might start taking you seriously. Because you and yoru predecessors in this conversation keep ignoring that scenario.

It's easier to prove a troll to be a troll in a group event than on a 1-1 situation. So I'd suggest record and report : that should work.
Other options are complete ignore (yes, that would work quick but I reckon it's hard to get 20 people to not react at all).
and ultimate options is to organize events in remote / hidden places, or even better, in an instanced place (though that limits the number of participants to 12).

SerenaAnastasia wrote: »

So that means that on PC you cant have a text chat ONLY with your group or guild? Because thats the first thing they need to work on then, and it would solve a lot of problems.

RizaHawkeye wrote: »

I am so freaking frustrated right now.

Last night, at approximately 12:00 a.m. my time, I was running a zone when a player began harassing me. The harassment took the form of following me around, making psudeo-sexual gestures, and asking inappropriate personal questions. When I tried to ignore the player, they began casting area spells to annoy me and mess up my game. When I finally stopped asked what was going on, the player responded with another sexually suggestive comment. I turned to leave (I was just trying to complete a quest in that area) and he (and I'm using He as the indefinite pronoun; I acknowledge it could have been a she) began throwing out additional comments, questions, and gestures. I finally told him that if he didn't stop I would report him. He LOLed me and then said he was going to report me for being a prude.

I tried to ignore him but he just continued to follow me. Finally, I did report him (twice, in fact, because he wouldn't stop) once with a screen shot and his character name. But of course, this is the response I got:

Greetings!

Thank you for your inquiry. Please note that our support office is currently closed. Our support hours are between 9am and 10pm Eastern Standard Time, seven days a week. We will investigate your inquiry as soon as we reopen.

Our goal is to investigate and respond to your contact within six business hours.

We appreciate your patience.

Warm Regards,
The Bethesda Support Team

I finally had to logged off to get away from him. I still have not received any further response from Zenimax or Bethesda.

Okay, so here's my question: What can we do about this? Yeah, report it but you can see how effective that is. Normally, I can just brush this adolescent behaivor off, but this person so intent upon interfering with what I was doing that I couldn't even play the freakin game. Yeah, I could have gone to another zone or teleported (for gold) away from the situation. But why should I have to do that?

I can anticipate some responses:

This is an MMO. You have to deal with this stuff.

No, I don't. If that is the response from Zenimax, then give me my money back, including the cost of the game and all the subscriptions I've paid. Is that unreasonable? You bet it is. But so is doing absolutely NOTHING to stop harassment in the game.

Zenimax deals with harassment. They just can't talk about it.

Really? You believe that? That seems to be really easy way of not doing anything and hoping the problem goes away. And clearly, they're not doing anything except during regular business hours.

Grow up and get a thick skin.

You do realize I couldn't play the game. This isn't a thick skin issue; I can fire off snarly responses with the best of them, and I'm happy to walk way from a jerk, if I can go somewhere else and do something else. I am not happy when I have to leave a quest and come back and finish it later because some idiot is intent upon ruining my game.

So my question to Zenimax employees is: How do you anticipate players dealing with this? Really? You made this game. You had to expect this would happen. What do you want players to do?

Yes, twelve hours later, I am still quite angry.