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Empowering Chains still needs some work

Flak
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Hey,
I really like the change to empowering chains coming with the DLC, but I think as a pure gapcloser this is far behind others, especially in PvP.
First of all its dodgeable, no other gapcloser is and since its no longer pulling it shouldn't be. It's crucial for DKs to get near enemies since most of the attacks are melee and there's a lot of roll dodge spamming in PvP. Also the range is an issue, normal gapclosers are 22m, this one's only 18m. So if an enemy is running away from you and dodges the first try, he's most likely gonna be out of range. Please consider to change this.

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  • Bashev
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    Flak wrote: »
    Hey,
    I really like the change to empowering chains coming with the DLC, but I think as a pure gapcloser this is far behind others, especially in PvP.
    First of all its dodgeable, no other gapcloser is and since its no longer pulling it shouldn't be. It's crucial for DKs to get near enemies since most of the attacks are melee and there's a lot of roll dodge spamming in PvP. Also the range is an issue, normal gapclosers are 22m, this one's only 18m. So if an enemy is running away from you and dodges the first try, he's most likely gonna be out of range. Please consider to change this.

    Are you sure that the range is 18m? I thought that they increased it to the base skill.
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  • Mumyo
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    Flak wrote: »
    Hey,
    I really like the change to empowering chains coming with the DLC, but I think as a pure gapcloser this is far behind others, especially in PvP.
    First of all its dodgeable, no other gapcloser is and since its no longer pulling it shouldn't be. It's crucial for DKs to get near enemies since most of the attacks are melee and there's a lot of roll dodge spamming in PvP. Also the range is an issue, normal gapclosers are 22m, this one's only 18m. So if an enemy is running away from you and dodges the first try, he's most likely gonna be out of range. Please consider to change this.

    Every Stamina-gapcloser is dodgeable dude. I dont know if its intended that Lotus fan and Toppling charge are undodgeable but its like that for many months so ill just take it as it is.

    Guess it wouldnt make much difference if the Chains are just like that but id prefer having all of them dodgeable.
  • RoyJade
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    Toppling charge shouldn't be undodgeable, but for lotus fan is intended (because it's an aoe).

    The chain range was made like this to prevent grapping an enemy from or while in wall in pvp. But now, there is a maximum high so they should bring back the old range.
  • Flak
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    Mumyo wrote: »
    Every Stamina-gapcloser is dodgeable dude. I dont know if its intended that Lotus fan and Toppling charge are undodgeable but its like that for many months so ill just take it as it is.

    Guess it wouldnt make much difference if the Chains are just like that but id prefer having all of them dodgeable.

    Hmm running Invasion (1H+Shield) on my DK atm and never noticed it being dodged (at least not the movement, not sure about the damage), but if thats the case its alright ofc.
    Bashev wrote: »
    Are you sure that the range is 18m? I thought that they increased it to the base skill.

    I was not on the PTS yet. but checked all the Patch Notes and didnt see any change like that.

    Edited by Flak on February 11, 2016 4:53PM

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  • Sharkano
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    The elevation issue is the main problem. They need to scrap that, as the chain skills cannot be dependable as is.
  • Derra
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    Mumyo wrote: »
    Flak wrote: »
    Hey,
    I really like the change to empowering chains coming with the DLC, but I think as a pure gapcloser this is far behind others, especially in PvP.
    First of all its dodgeable, no other gapcloser is and since its no longer pulling it shouldn't be. It's crucial for DKs to get near enemies since most of the attacks are melee and there's a lot of roll dodge spamming in PvP. Also the range is an issue, normal gapclosers are 22m, this one's only 18m. So if an enemy is running away from you and dodges the first try, he's most likely gonna be out of range. Please consider to change this.

    Every Stamina-gapcloser is dodgeable dude. I dont know if its intended that Lotus fan and Toppling charge are undodgeable but its like that for many months so ill just take it as it is.

    Guess it wouldnt make much difference if the Chains are just like that but id prefer having all of them dodgeable.

    As far as i understand it it´s not moving the dk when it´s dodged?
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