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Do you think PvE players deserve access to alliance war skills?
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Hope499✭✭✭✭No - PvE players must be forced to PvP if they wish to gain access to those skillsI hate making anyone do anything.
But cmon....if you want the PvP skills, you gotta pvP....very simple.
I only ever ventured into pvp FOR the skills, and got hooked, its a great way for people to try it out.Tripped over my friends bra.....
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Digiman✭✭✭✭✭Other - (Explain)The current system is a joke. A hard grind even people who create alts have to consider when making them. Their opposite, Undaunted has a variety of ways aside from just grinding dungeons to increase this skill line.
But with Alliance war skills you only have one, and it only rewards zergs. So yes I do support the changes for better access to a grudgingly boring system.0 -
WalkingLegacy✭✭✭✭✭
✭No - PvE players must be forced to PvP if they wish to gain access to those skillsI think the answer is bad though.
No one forces anyone to do anything. It's content that if you want it, you play for it. Otherwise what's the point of designing content for separate playstyles?0 -
xellink✭✭✭Yes - I think PvE players should have some way of getting access to these skills without having to PvP endlesslyExtremely disappointed at the response that people would say 'you can't get pvp skills because we don't have pve bonuses.'
Having pvp skills does not hurt pve in any way. Likewise, most of the players who want the pvp skills wouldn't mind pvp players having pve skills too. This is not a challenge between pve or pvp players. This is a question about accessibility.
Is it a good idea? That is the question. Some of the responses sound like: 'I don't care. but I won't allow it because it doesn't make me feel like an elite special snowflake pvp player!!'
Disgusting mentality.
A hurdle is necessary but does not need to be limited to pvp is my answer.0 -
Faasnu✭✭✭No - PvE players must be forced to PvP if they wish to gain access to those skillsAs long as we have to do PVE to level undaunted skills - nope. I think it's fair the way it is.0 -
PURPLE245✭✭✭No - PvE players must be forced to PvP if they wish to gain access to those skillsthen what would be the point in the being pvp skills?? they are goin to be easier to get next patch anyway↓♛The Fam♛↓¯\_(ツ)_/¯AD/High Elf-NB=Chip-D-I-P-SAD/High Elf-Sorc=Why PlayAD/High Elf-Templar=Star BucksAD/High Elf-DK=D-I-P-SDC/Orc-DK=Super NubAD/Wood Elf-Templar=L M A OAD/Wood Elf-NB=ßoßAD/Wood Elf-sorc=TarzanEP/Argonian-dk=Swimming Like A SharkPC☜═㋡630+cp ㋡═☞EUUser ID=@PURPLE970 -
Kendaric✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Other - (Explain)None of the PvP skills should work outside a PvP zone (Cyrodiil/Imp. City).
Edit: For the record, I don't PvP at all.Edited by Kendaric on February 10, 2016 9:12PM0 -
eventide03b14a_ESO✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭No - PvE players must be forced to PvP if they wish to gain access to those skillsSorry but I had to do it so does everyone else. Yeah it's a grind, but that's why having those things gives you a sense of accomplishment. I'm tired of threads where people just want things handed to them because they don't feel like doing the work.:trollin:0 -
eventide03b14a_ESO✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭No - PvE players must be forced to PvP if they wish to gain access to those skillsThe current system is a joke. A hard grind even people who create alts have to consider when making them. Their opposite, Undaunted has a variety of ways aside from just grinding dungeons to increase this skill line.
But with Alliance war skills you only have one, and it only rewards zergs. So yes I do support the changes for better access to a grudgingly boring system.
I got my rank up and I have never "zerged" so no you're absolutely, 100%, totally WRONG.:trollin:0 -
eventide03b14a_ESO✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭No - PvE players must be forced to PvP if they wish to gain access to those skillsNone of the PvP skills should work outside a PvP zone (Cyrodiil/Imp. City).
Edit: For the record, I don't PvP at all.
This made me LOL so hard. Just because you can't handle PvP doesn't mean you should take away someone else's hard work.:trollin:0 -
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✭✭No - PvE players must be forced to PvP if they wish to gain access to those skillsI have no dog in this fight as I don't have access to Alliance or Undaunted skill lines or sets.
I think a better solution would be to make Alliance and Undaunted skills only affect other players when you cast them and have no effect on yourself (kind of like most of the tool tips lead you to believe they work). That way there would be no solo benefit from these skills and since you use these skills in groups you would still gain the benefit of them in a group.
At the very least they should have no effect on you if you are not in a group. If you are in a group, the folks you are grouped with have to be in the same area and instance as you for you to gain benefit from the cast.
Edit: broke it up a bit, hope it makes more sense
Nope, still incoherent. Try again. It sounds like you're saying that those abilities should only buff everyone but you, as in everyone should get the barrier except the guy that casted it? Does that really make sense to you?:trollin:0 -
Flak✭✭✭✭Other - (Explain)All Alliance War/ Guild Skills and Ranks should be accountwide, then we don't have to reduce the AP needed.
I'm 90% PvEer due to the lag.
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izJordy✭✭✭lets get this straight, if YOU or ANYONE want vigor, or any PVP abilities then YOU shall work your ass off and pvp. i've been working my ass off for those PVP skills and trustm e pvp can be fun but ANNOYING aswell, yet i'm here grinding the *** out of PVP cause i want those abilities, so deal with it and work for them.Edited by izJordy on February 10, 2016 9:52PM1 -
svartorn✭✭✭✭✭
✭No - PvE players must be forced to PvP if they wish to gain access to those skillsNope.
I've PVP'd on all my toons to make sure they have the PVP skills. Same as I raid/dungeon to get PVE things.0 -
Skinzz✭✭✭✭✭No - PvE players must be forced to PvP if they wish to gain access to those skillsVigor is fair for pvers to obtain at lower ranks but the rest should be worked for.Anybody got a group? LFG, anybody? Hello?0 -
Kendaric✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Other - (Explain)eventide03b14a_ESO wrote: »
It's not about being able to handle it. I merely think that certain skill lines should be PvP/PvE specific and only work in their respective environments.0 -
Personofsecrets✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Yes - I think PvE players should have some way of getting access to these skills without having to PvP endlesslyAll Alliance War/ Guild Skills and Ranks should be accountwide, then we don't have to reduce the AP needed.
I'm 90% PvEer due to the lag.
yupRest in Peace:
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2014-2025
This commemoration is for the class that has constantly been plundered and dismantled by designers for no obvious reason while other classes continue to have coherent skill lines and feel both powerful and cool.0 -
Personofsecrets✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Yes - I think PvE players should have some way of getting access to these skills without having to PvP endlesslylets get this straight, if YOU or ANYONE want vigor, or any PVP abilities then YOU shall work your ass off and pvp. i've been working my ass off for those PVP skills and trustm e pvp can be fun but ANNOYING aswell, yet i'm here grinding the *** out of PVP cause i want those abilities, so deal with it and work for them.
You can probably stop grinding now, in part, thanks to my help.Rest in Peace:
The Dragonknight
2014-2025
This commemoration is for the class that has constantly been plundered and dismantled by designers for no obvious reason while other classes continue to have coherent skill lines and feel both powerful and cool.0 -
Islyn✭✭✭✭✭
✭OMG talk about beating a dead horse.
*Over it.*
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slumber_sandb16_ESO✭✭✭✭No - PvE players must be forced to PvP if they wish to gain access to those skillsNo.
If you want something from pve then you need to pve.
If you want something from pvp then you need to pvp.
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Personofsecrets✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Yes - I think PvE players should have some way of getting access to these skills without having to PvP endlesslyslumber_sandb16_ESO wrote: »No.
If you want something from pve then you need to pve.
If you want something from pvp then you need to pvp.
Okay, I'll go grind 600k ap for my ava skills and then grind vwgt until i've gotten enough gold from the runs to buy by helm.Rest in Peace:
The Dragonknight
2014-2025
This commemoration is for the class that has constantly been plundered and dismantled by designers for no obvious reason while other classes continue to have coherent skill lines and feel both powerful and cool.0 -
Artjuh90✭✭✭✭✭
✭Yes - I think PvE players should have some way of getting access to these skills without having to PvP endlesslywell im ok with the 90% decrease of AP required to get the skills. Skills needed for many builds should be locked behind any mayor wall which cost a week to complete0 -
mr1sho✭✭✭✭✭No - PvE players must be forced to PvP if they wish to gain access to those skillsNo !Gold Company Commander0 -
gen_reynard2050✭✭✭No - PvE players must be forced to PvP if they wish to gain access to those skills
"What the lion cannot manage to do, the fox can".0