I don't see it being any kind of viable replacement for BoL, at least for pvp. Pets are easily cc'd and don't automatically break free, they also have a tendency to lag behind or wander off if not carefully controlled.. At first glance I wouldn't want to rely on it for the clutch heals that a player can deliver.

Lightspeedflashb14_ESO wrote: »

Lysette wrote: »

Both is not really comparable IMO, because summoning takes 4 seconds and can be interrupted, while BoL is instant.

wrong, takes 1.5 secs to summon (comparable to spirit syphon) and can be done before combat. the ability is instant while the pet is active and what takes 4 sec is the desommon

Even if the pet is under a cc effect?

UrQuan wrote: »

Spottswoode wrote: »

UrQuan wrote: »

Spottswoode wrote: »

UrQuan wrote: »

Spottswoode wrote: »

It's nowhere near as spammable as it has a cool down attached to it.

There doesn't appear to be a cooldown to me...

It's there. I spent the better part of 3 minutes trying to spam it. Whether it's a global cool down or a cool down on pet special abilities, I'm not sure. I won't be able to test it until I get home.

That's odd, because I was just testing it and I was able to spam it just as quickly as I can spam BoL. I was testing without weaving, mind you. Just casting it over and over, with one cast coming immediately after the previous.

Hmm....I'll get back to you on this. I was in the middle of PvP, so the pet attacking my prevent repeated casting.

Ah, I hadn't thought of that. Yes, that's definitely a possibility. If the Twilight attacking prevents the heal from always being instantly cast, then that's a significant downside to it.

@UrQuan Apparently it fires off just fine while the Twilight Matriarch is attacking.

I'm not sure why I was experiencing a hesitation.

Bromburak wrote: »

So you agree that you need to waste 2 slots for using twilight properly. Great, then we can continue with the healing discussion.

*facepalm* next time try reading. As in try reading the very first post in this thread where I mention that as one of the 2 major drawbacks to this skill (the other major drawback being that the Twilight has to be alive). Obviously I agree with what I said in the first post... That's why I said it!

Clearly what really happened is that you didn't understand how the new skill worked, you thought that it was a 4 second cast time every time you want to use the Twilight's ability, and rather than simply saying "oh, now I see how it works" when it was pointed out that it's instant you tried to come up with some bizarre twisted reason why what you said made sense (which it still doesn't) in order to save face. It didn't work. Why don't people realize that in situations like this they just make themselves look worse than if they had said "oh, that's not how I thought it worked"?

Bromburak wrote: »

Tankqull wrote: »

one of the downsides of being a healer is to have your main heal on both bars as having to switch back to the other bar will or better does kill your groupmembers.

Husan wrote:

This. I usually double slotted breath of life when I was healing dungeons.

Sorry but if a healer is that bad, I would recommend L2P before raiding.
If you feel more comfy with BOL on both bars ok, but efficient heal and group support builds look different.

I assume they're referring to pugging, or just generally running with people who are unskilled.

sneakymitchell wrote: »

The two are slight difference breath of life is insta cast.

Twilight need to wait 4 sec to come but does it heal friendlies on command or it just heals players randomly.

I say command by the looks of it.

It's not a 4 second cast time - it takes 1.5 seconds to summon, and then it's an insta-cast spammable on-command heal when the Twilight is active. It takes 4 seconds to dismiss the Twilight.

Mettaricana wrote: »

Drakilian wrote: »

You don't need it on two bars, it's no longer a toggle in Thieves guild is it? (All toggles being removed, I thought)

You do need it on both bars they clarified that it'll still de summon if swapped

Desummoning on weapon swap has its uses, for example volatile imp, rebate, etc.

Emma_Eunjung wrote: »

Mush55 wrote: »

Not interested in relying on pets as they die if they get a harsh look, would rather they got rid of them all together and change the whole skill set up to an ice and fire line....

You're not the only or first person to ask for that, but our cries have fallen on deaf ears. ZOS is addicted to their original vision of the Daedric Summoner. I think the best we could ever hope is for ZOS to remove one of the pets and replace it with a "bound" weapon that has a useful attack that can be activated on demand. I'm thinking of a magicka version of Wrecking Blow or something like that.

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