Why can't I fight back?

babedenny · February 2016

When a guard attacks me, I can't do anything. Even after the initial stun wears off, none of my abilities seem to work. 2H Stamina NB, btw.

ontheleftcoast · February 2016

The only abilities you need to get away from guards is walking, CC break, and LMB (left mouse button). Simply walk outside their tether range, turn around and punch them and they'll return to their starting position. Don't sprint, that burns stamina which you'll need for the CC breaks.

Fighting guards is pointless, not only do they have insane health they are immortal. I've watched teams of high level toons beat them down to 0 health and they don't die, they don't even take a knee, they just keep fighting and eventually will drain your resource pool and kill you.

Vulsahdaal · February 2016

babedenny wrote: »

When a guard attacks me, I can't do anything. Even after the initial stun wears off, none of my abilities seem to work. 2H Stamina NB, btw.

Well, I usually try to run from guards, not fight them. However, I also noticed when I was attacked by civilian NPCs (usually because they object to finding my hand in their pocket lol) I was not able to fight back, my left mouse button wouldnt work, and none of my keyboard abilities either.. This had to happen a few times before I realized it was because I had the prevent attack on innocents turned on, after I turned it off no more problem. It seems if its on, you cant attack them even if they are attacking you? Anyway, you may want to check and see if this is the issue?

NovaShadow · February 2016

Like above me said.

Turn off the attack innocents setting and you'll be able to attack them. Guards are considered innocent with that particular setting. Gotta run if you can't attack em and don't wanna pay.

failkiwib16_ESO · February 2016

Well I always lag and wake up with a blue screen of death recap -.- I sometimes manage to run away, blocking their attacks ... jump off cliffs or walls, if I can manage it without dying from fall damage, to get away from the guard faster.

babedenny · February 2016

I do have 'prevent attacking innocents' enabled. Thanks for the tip! I assumed if they were punching me in the face, that they are no longer innocent.

Volkodav · February 2016

ontheleftcoast wrote: »

The only abilities you need to get away from guards is walking, CC break, and LMB (left mouse button). Simply walk outside their tether range, turn around and punch them and they'll return to their starting position. Don't sprint, that burns stamina which you'll need for the CC breaks.

Fighting guards is pointless, not only do they have insane health they are immortal. I've watched teams of high level toons beat them down to 0 health and they don't die, they don't even take a knee, they just keep fighting and eventually will drain your resource pool and kill you.

No,guards chase you until you die.There is no tether range for them.I have seen them chase people all over Vulkhel Guard,gang up on them,and kill them.I've seen others join in to help the poor slob get away and get killed themselves.I have only seen one killed once,and it took three people.

VShane · February 2016

and you kinda wonder where these guards were when you had to face Molag Bal, seriously compared to these immortal guards, we are not heroes.

Mojmir · February 2016

I hear you can bribe them with sweerolls and nocturnals coffee

Enodoc · February 2016

ontheleftcoast wrote: »

Fighting guards is pointless, not only do they have insane health they are immortal. I've watched teams of high level toons beat them down to 0 health and they don't die, they don't even take a knee, they just keep fighting and eventually will drain your resource pool and kill you.

Guards are Invincible. You can't get them down to 0 health because their health never decreases; not sure what you saw these players doing.

lolo_01b16_ESO · February 2016

Enodoc wrote: »

ontheleftcoast wrote: »

Fighting guards is pointless, not only do they have insane health they are immortal. I've watched teams of high level toons beat them down to 0 health and they don't die, they don't even take a knee, they just keep fighting and eventually will drain your resource pool and kill you.

Guards are Invincible. You can't get them down to 0 health because their health never decreases; not sure what you saw these players doing.

Some patches ago, there health bar actually decreased when you attacked them. With a high level tank and healer you could bring them down to zero hp. However at that point they did an attack that killed everyone instantly.

babedenny · February 2016

Just stole something and got caught. I don't think it was guards that tried to arrest me, because I killed both of them this time. So, in answer to a previous post that essentially said "there is no point to fighting guards because you will die", you're probably right. But it's not always guards that you end up fighting, and now that I have the "don't attack innocents" turned off, I was victorious!

Edit: my bounty is currently 1492g

CherryCake · February 2016

Always steal stuff close to some fence, he will block you, and after that you JUMP!

babedenny · February 2016

I was indoors, because that's where the loot was. No fence for miles. But I was victorious this time, thanks to some helpful tips here.

Wrecking Blow FTW

bedlom · February 2016

I feel that way in pvp alot.

Abeille · February 2016

lolo_01b16_ESO wrote: »

Enodoc wrote: »

ontheleftcoast wrote: »

Fighting guards is pointless, not only do they have insane health they are immortal. I've watched teams of high level toons beat them down to 0 health and they don't die, they don't even take a knee, they just keep fighting and eventually will drain your resource pool and kill you.

Guards are Invincible. You can't get them down to 0 health because their health never decreases; not sure what you saw these players doing.

Some patches ago, there health bar actually decreased when you attacked them. With a high level tank and healer you could bring them down to zero hp. However at that point they did an attack that killed everyone instantly.

Yeah, I think it is called "Riot Control" or something like that. It would hit everyone in the fight and kill them instantly.

I wasn't aware that this was changed.

Storm_knight22 · February 2016

I enjoy using Destructive clench (fire staff) to knock guards off of cliffs or into areas where they cannot get out of, the fountain in front of Daggerfall bank is a favorite. Also they cannot swim so f you push them into deep water they de spawn.

babedenny · February 2016

Wrecking Blow is also fun for this, lol.

MikeB · February 2016

Volkodav wrote: »

ontheleftcoast wrote: »

The only abilities you need to get away from guards is walking, CC break, and LMB (left mouse button). Simply walk outside their tether range, turn around and punch them and they'll return to their starting position. Don't sprint, that burns stamina which you'll need for the CC breaks.

Fighting guards is pointless, not only do they have insane health they are immortal. I've watched teams of high level toons beat them down to 0 health and they don't die, they don't even take a knee, they just keep fighting and eventually will drain your resource pool and kill you.

No,guards chase you until you die.There is no tether range for them.I have seen them chase people all over Vulkhel Guard,gang up on them,and kill them.I've seen others join in to help the poor slob get away and get killed themselves.I have only seen one killed once,and it took three people.

None of the quoted is true. Guards DO have a tether range, it just may be a little larger due to their pathing size. Also, they are invincible (and always have been) and therefore cannot be killed. If you are attacked the best thing to do is just walk away from them, do not run as you will need the stam to break free from their CC.

altemriel · February 2016

guards are not possible to kill, so you can not fight back, unfortunatelly

so the only things you can do is either to let yourself get killed, or flee

Reverb · February 2016

Volkodav wrote: »

No,guards chase you until you die.There is no tether range for them.I have seen them chase people all over Vulkhel Guard,gang up on them,and kill them.I've seen others join in to help the poor slob get away and get killed themselves.I have only seen one killed once,and it took three people.

None of this is true.

Guards do have a tether, and they are quite easy to escape by simply walking away. Don't sprint, save your stamina to dodgeroll and break free from their attacks, and just keep walking until you leave combat. I've done this literally hundreds of times.

And you didn't see a guard killed. Not by 3 people, not by 30 or even 300. It didn't happen. They are programmed to be unkillable.

Asherons_Call · February 2016

Just take a que from Monty Python and the holy grail

"Run awayyy!!"

babedenny · February 2016

'Tis but a flesh wound!

Shardaxx · February 2016

Just cloak and head to the refuge.

rager82b14_ESO · February 2016

So why the hell do we need to fight demon lords, and other nasty things, when immortal and all powerful guards could have done it?

Shardaxx · February 2016

It's just to prevent people running riot in towns, stealing all the stuff and killing all the guards.

Stranglehands · February 2016

The guards are like fighting a script kiddie. They're really stupid but they've got infinite health and a whole bunch of really annoying hacky CC moves

Volkodav · February 2016

MikeB wrote: »

Volkodav wrote: »

ontheleftcoast wrote: »

The only abilities you need to get away from guards is walking, CC break, and LMB (left mouse button). Simply walk outside their tether range, turn around and punch them and they'll return to their starting position. Don't sprint, that burns stamina which you'll need for the CC breaks.

Fighting guards is pointless, not only do they have insane health they are immortal. I've watched teams of high level toons beat them down to 0 health and they don't die, they don't even take a knee, they just keep fighting and eventually will drain your resource pool and kill you.

No,guards chase you until you die.There is no tether range for them.I have seen them chase people all over Vulkhel Guard,gang up on them,and kill them.I've seen others join in to help the poor slob get away and get killed themselves.I have only seen one killed once,and it took three people.

None of the quoted is true. Guards DO have a tether range, it just may be a little larger due to their pathing size. Also, they are invincible (and always have been) and therefore cannot be killed. If you are attacked the best thing to do is just walk away from them, do not run as you will need the stam to break free from their CC.

I just said they cant be killed.DUH.
So,your "none of the above is true" bit isnt true. The best thing I have done is sprint into the water if I can and swim like heck.It doesnt always work,but sometimes it does.And sorry,but I HAVE seen people be chased all through Vulkhel Guard before getting killed.I dont care what you say,I've seen it. I have watched as they sprint up the stairs toward the bank,and still get it before they can get into the bank.