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Dragonknight Will Become Most Versatile Class
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If I am reading everything in the forums correctly, DKs are the best tanks and Stamina DPS, and after the Thieve's Guild hit live they will become the best Magicka DPS and the best support/healing class?
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MrDerrikk✭✭✭✭✭
✭They have always been a support class, and their DPS has always been good (except for PvP because DoTs). Basically all the classes can do everything quite well in different ways, but DK's and Sorcs will probably still have some trouble with healing compared to the other two. Templar DPS is also down now...I have departed into the great unknown that is outside the game and the forums, and wish you well in your Tamriel adventures!
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Wollust✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭Magicka DK has been the best sustained magicka dps class since more or less ever. Sorcs are only better as long as their overload lasts.
However, the changes to CP gives them another boost in DPS. That is true.Susano'o
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Islyn✭✭✭✭✭
✭Magicka DK has been the best sustained magicka dps class since more or less ever. Sorcs are only better as long as their overload lasts.
However, the changes to CP gives them another boost in DPS. That is true.
Please give me some tips then because I run out of mana FAST and without Ele drain at least, I am just like *whelp. Out of mana till potion*
I wonder what I am doing wrong.Member of the Old Guard - Closed Betas 20131 -
MrDerrikk✭✭✭✭✭
✭Magicka DK has been the best sustained magicka dps class since more or less ever. Sorcs are only better as long as their overload lasts.
However, the changes to CP gives them another boost in DPS. That is true.
Please give me some tips then because I run out of mana FAST and without Ele drain at least, I am just like *whelp. Out of mana till potion*
I wonder what I am doing wrong.
I have the same on trash packs whilst using AoE, as I can't use Ele Drain and generally don't waste my Ulties there. What's your regen?
Edit: I do have to rely of potions for emergency regen a lot I find though, and my regen is so low that at the beginning of each fight I'm often only at 30% magicka.Edited by MrDerrikk on February 5, 2016 2:45AMI have departed into the great unknown that is outside the game and the forums, and wish you well in your Tamriel adventures!
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Anilahation✭✭✭✭✭Magicka DK has been the best sustained magicka dps class since more or less ever. Sorcs are only better as long as their overload lasts.
However, the changes to CP gives them another boost in DPS. That is true.
Please give me some tips then because I run out of mana FAST and without Ele drain at least, I am just like *whelp. Out of mana till potion*
I wonder what I am doing wrong.
I never run out of magicka on my Magicka DK?
My friend was watching me play and pointed it out to me.0 -
Wing✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Templar is still the PvE easy button, and I don't see that leaving anytime soon, you can jabs, reflective light, BoL your way through all solo / small group content in this game, that still leaves room open 2 skills and an ult, and all those skills are available off the boat.
DK still lacks any sort of range and requires being right up in the enemies face to deal damage, this is why most magicka DK's have to run 5 heavy. they also still lack mobility on top of that. but I'm fine with all of that, makes the classes unique and different to play.ESO player since beta.
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Praeficere✭✭✭✭DKs have always been such, the changes on PTS to a Support/Healing role are novelty or had their purpose solved with something else (e.g The new magma shell to barrier.)Though the shadow has moved not,
A thousand miles I’ve passed –
Ageless as the mountains but forgetting not the past.
Are you Resolute?
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Anilahation✭✭✭✭✭Templar is still the PvE easy button, and I don't see that leaving anytime soon, you can jabs, reflective light, BoL your way through all solo / small group content in this game, that still leaves room open 2 skills and an ult, and all those skills are available off the boat.
DK still lacks any sort of range and requires being right up in the enemies face to deal damage, this is why most magicka DK's have to run 5 heavy. they also still lack mobility on top of that. but I'm fine with all of that, makes the classes unique and different to play.
We getting a magicka charge next patch though
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Wollust✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭Magicka DK has been the best sustained magicka dps class since more or less ever. Sorcs are only better as long as their overload lasts.
However, the changes to CP gives them another boost in DPS. That is true.
Please give me some tips then because I run out of mana FAST and without Ele drain at least, I am just like *whelp. Out of mana till potion*
I wonder what I am doing wrong.
Well when I talk about DPS I talk about more of a trial like situation. Or an optimizied dungeon group where there is elemental drain and siphon spirit up. Otherwise it's impossible to sustain all spell damage and kena.Susano'o
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✭✭✭✭✭SienneYviete wrote: »MRW reading the patch notes of the DK changes
that's a great movie.
"today I become number one!"ESO player since beta.
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✭They just need to give DK's repentance then Templars can just be deleted as a class.....NA PC | AD
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Funkopotamus✭✭✭✭✭Yolokin_Swagonborn wrote: »Welcome back to Elder DKs online. Its been a long year.
Yeah. Most of us have come to understand that ZOS will not be finished with class "Balancing" until everyone is playing DK and have all character slots filled with DK ALTS..
I have come to terms with and can deal with this being an MMO that every class can do any role, but I HATE and do not understand why ZOS wants one class to be SUPERIOR at EVERY ROLE!
Edited by Funkopotamus on February 5, 2016 4:23AMAnything useful that players are wanting added into the game all fall under the category of "Yer ruinin my 'mersion!" Sallington1 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Funkopotamus wrote: »Yolokin_Swagonborn wrote: »Welcome back to Elder DKs online. Its been a long year.
Yeah. Most of us have come to understand that ZOS will not be finished with class "Balancing" until everyone is playing DK and have all character slots filled with DK ALTS..
I have come to terms with and can deal with this being an MMO that every class can do any role, but I HATE and do not understand why ZOS wants one class to be SUPERIOR at EVERY ROLE!
They just cant figure out which class they want it to be. In early 1.6, it was elder sorcs online. Then, for the imperial city, it was Elder Nightblades online. I guess its time to cycle back to DKs. Are we missing anyone? Nah, time for DKs to be OP again.5 -
D0ntevenL1ft✭✭✭✭✭Everyone is freaking out over DK's because they have been watching too much PTS live stream. Even sypher said in his post that duelling is much different than open world cyrodil. Plus sypher seems to make everything look way too easy lol @Sypher IMO the DK will not be as OP as everyone is freaking out about.3
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Ampnode✭✭✭✭D0ntevenL1ft wrote: »Everyone is freaking out over DK's because they have been watching too much PTS live stream. Even sypher said in his post that duelling is much different than open world cyrodil. Plus sypher seems to make everything look way too easy lol @Sypher IMO the DK will not be as OP as everyone is freaking out about.
Somebody who knows how to read, eh? I acknowledge that
Skills that were barely even worth the changes:
- Searing Strike
- Burning Talons
- Chains
- Inhale
Based on these skill changes? I still have no idea how this is even going to make DK the most versatile class. Let alone "OP" for that matter. In Sypher's stream, he used 3 abilities that were altered. Inner Light(non-DK skill), Burning Talons, and Searing Strike. So if I understand correctly, Burning Talons doing flame damage instead of physical damage and Searing Strike applying double the heal when casted again means DKs are "coming back"? The only thing that made DK "OP" in that stream was a new set, max spell damage, and a Meteor. But alas, sheep will follow the herd.PC NA - CP640+
Characters:
Amp - Magicka Nightblade
Amp - Magicka Sorcerer
Amp - Magicka Templar
Amp - Stamina Dragonknight
Amp - Stamina Templar
Amp - Magicka Dragonknight
Amp - Stamina Sorcerer
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MrDerrikk✭✭✭✭✭
✭D0ntevenL1ft wrote: »Everyone is freaking out over DK's because they have been watching too much PTS live stream. Even sypher said in his post that duelling is much different than open world cyrodil. Plus sypher seems to make everything look way too easy lol @Sypher IMO the DK will not be as OP as everyone is freaking out about.
Somebody who knows how to read, eh? I acknowledge that
Skills that were barely even worth the changes:
- Searing Strike
- Burning Talons
- Chains
- Inhale
Based on these skill changes? I still have no idea how this is even going to make DK the most versatile class. Let alone "OP" for that matter. In Sypher's stream, he used 3 abilities that were altered. Inner Light(non-DK skill), Burning Talons, and Searing Strike. So if I understand correctly, Burning Talons doing flame damage instead of physical damage and Searing Strike applying double the heal when casted again means DKs are "coming back"? The only thing that made DK "OP" in that stream was a new set, max spell damage, and a Meteor. But alas, sheep will follow the herd.
Inhale was buffed to add a lot of 1vX survivability really, especially in PvE. I should be able to solo all the Craglorn delves on my paper DK as a result now I reckon; was 90% of the way there before.I have departed into the great unknown that is outside the game and the forums, and wish you well in your Tamriel adventures!
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✭D0ntevenL1ft wrote: »Everyone is freaking out over DK's because they have been watching too much PTS live stream. Even sypher said in his post that duelling is much different than open world cyrodil. Plus sypher seems to make everything look way too easy lol @Sypher IMO the DK will not be as OP as everyone is freaking out about.
Somebody who knows how to read, eh? I acknowledge that
Skills that were barely even worth the changes:
- Searing Strike
- Burning Talons
- Chains
- Inhale
Based on these skill changes? I still have no idea how this is even going to make DK the most versatile class. Let alone "OP" for that matter. In Sypher's stream, he used 3 abilities that were altered. Inner Light(non-DK skill), Burning Talons, and Searing Strike. So if I understand correctly, Burning Talons doing flame damage instead of physical damage and Searing Strike applying double the heal when casted again means DKs are "coming back"? The only thing that made DK "OP" in that stream was a new set, max spell damage, and a Meteor. But alas, sheep will follow the herd.
Deltias video seemed a little opposite. Granted, showcasing in a non pvp environment just going over changes. Different streamer, different opinions I assume. I am not agreeing or disagreeing but, it does give retired mag. Dks a reason to dust off the armor and suit up again.0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭6 target inhale is going to be pretty impressive with all of the DK buffs to healing taken.2 -
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✭✭✭stam DK is awesome!!
what are the changes comming with the DLC? I still have not finished reading the patch notes...
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✭✭✭✭stam DK is awesome!!
what are the changes comming with the DLC? I still have not finished reading the patch notes...
Meteor can't be reflected.
You can now mitigate physical damage in cp tree. Which hits all stam users.
They now have a major brutality buff from class skills. So not forced to use two handed if you don't want.
So not a huge amount to be fair.
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✭Yolokin_Swagonborn wrote: »Funkopotamus wrote: »Yolokin_Swagonborn wrote: »Welcome back to Elder DKs online. Its been a long year.
Yeah. Most of us have come to understand that ZOS will not be finished with class "Balancing" until everyone is playing DK and have all character slots filled with DK ALTS..
I have come to terms with and can deal with this being an MMO that every class can do any role, but I HATE and do not understand why ZOS wants one class to be SUPERIOR at EVERY ROLE!
They just cant figure out which class they want it to be. In early 1.6, it was elder sorcs online. Then, for the imperial city, it was Elder Nightblades online. I guess its time to cycle back to DKs. Are we missing anyone? Nah, time for DKs to be OP again.
so sorcerers have never been on top? lol last i checked they were the most overpowered with least amount of counters to them. At least NB get alot of counters which will be even stronger with the next patch. sorc just keeps on being as overpowered as ever. well at least a magicka dk will be strong. but then again they have no decent healing because the 33% heal on dragonblood is still cut in 1/2 in cyro rendering it useless as heal for the dk1 -
Bromburak✭✭✭✭✭D0ntevenL1ft wrote: »Everyone is freaking out over DK's because they have been watching too much PTS live stream. Even sypher said in his post that duelling is much different than open world cyrodil. Plus sypher seems to make everything look way too easy lol @Sypher IMO the DK will not be as OP as everyone is freaking out about.
Solo attitudes and PvP is only a partial area of the game ...0 -
AddictionX✭✭✭✭stam DK is awesome!!
what are the changes comming with the DLC? I still have not finished reading the patch notes...
Meteor can't be reflected.
You can now mitigate physical damage in cp tree. Which hits all stam users.
They now have a major brutality buff from class skills. So not forced to use two handed if you don't want.
So not a huge amount to be fair.
Yes we're forced... that skill doesnt out pace the heals from rally which is the real reason why we use it... please play the class before commenting on it0 -
AddictionX✭✭✭✭Yolokin_Swagonborn wrote: »Funkopotamus wrote: »Yolokin_Swagonborn wrote: »Welcome back to Elder DKs online. Its been a long year.
Yeah. Most of us have come to understand that ZOS will not be finished with class "Balancing" until everyone is playing DK and have all character slots filled with DK ALTS..
I have come to terms with and can deal with this being an MMO that every class can do any role, but I HATE and do not understand why ZOS wants one class to be SUPERIOR at EVERY ROLE!
They just cant figure out which class they want it to be. In early 1.6, it was elder sorcs online. Then, for the imperial city, it was Elder Nightblades online. I guess its time to cycle back to DKs. Are we missing anyone? Nah, time for DKs to be OP again.
so sorcerers have never been on top? lol last i checked they were the most overpowered with least amount of counters to them. At least NB get alot of counters which will be even stronger with the next patch. sorc just keeps on being as overpowered as ever. well at least a magicka dk will be strong. but then again they have no decent healing because the 33% heal on dragonblood is still cut in 1/2 in cyro rendering it useless as heal for the dk
Yes this is the year of the Sorc ... mag dk will come in a close 2nd.0 -
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I have really really low magicka regen on my dk. I do run with full +spellpower enchants, but still. Have much better sustain on magblade.Magicka DK has been the best sustained magicka dps class since more or less ever.
Edited by Witar on February 5, 2016 6:52PMIt cannot be seen, cannot be felt,
Cannot be heard, cannot be smelt,
It lies behind stars and under hills,
And empty holes it fills,
It comes first and follows after,
Ends life, kills laughter.0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Yolokin_Swagonborn wrote: »Funkopotamus wrote: »Yolokin_Swagonborn wrote: »Welcome back to Elder DKs online. Its been a long year.
Yeah. Most of us have come to understand that ZOS will not be finished with class "Balancing" until everyone is playing DK and have all character slots filled with DK ALTS..
I have come to terms with and can deal with this being an MMO that every class can do any role, but I HATE and do not understand why ZOS wants one class to be SUPERIOR at EVERY ROLE!
They just cant figure out which class they want it to be. In early 1.6, it was elder sorcs online. Then, for the imperial city, it was Elder Nightblades online. I guess its time to cycle back to DKs. Are we missing anyone? Nah, time for DKs to be OP again.
so sorcerers have never been on top? lol last i checked they were the most overpowered with least amount of counters to them. At least NB get alot of counters which will be even stronger with the next patch. sorc just keeps on being as overpowered as ever. well at least a magicka dk will be strong. but then again they have no decent healing because the 33% heal on dragonblood is still cut in 1/2 in cyro rendering it useless as heal for the dkIn early 1.6, it was elder sorcs online
Did you not read what i said? Sorcs were the strongest in early 1.6 after the champion system hit, the final streak nerf wasn't in the game yet, and you could double proc a frag to hit for 24k. Then they gave way to NBs. Now its DKs turn because everyone gets a turn to be on top other than templars.2
