Magicka DK PTS Duels - 40K+ Magicka 4K+ Spell Damage

Sypher · February 2016

Just some testing with a few different set ups. Mainly glass cannon approaches 5 Light 1 Heavy 1 Medium

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zRwwGdz2Jn8

Disclaimer: These duels aren't meant to show skill because everyone is just testing things out. This was just to showcase the Magicka DK.

Also, Magicka DK has always been decent in 1v1's, I'm still not sure how the magicka DK buffs will translate into open world but I'm hoping for the best.

Manoekin · February 2016

Magicka DK seem just so much more tanky with the added healing and only being able to reflect once. Empowering chains is amazing and works like Ambush in that can be used while rooted and over gaps. The biggest thing though is the dot damage against shields and blocking targets. The pressure is always on, and in my fights against them on PTS my most used skill is probably purify >_<.

MountainHound · February 2016

DK love

Pain In The Axe · February 2016

now if only we could have our perma fire bats from pre 1.6

frozywozy · February 2016

So people are still running proximity in 1v1? what a shame. I though that would be gone.

WRX · February 2016

Damn, nice work.

Why magelight? Just for the crit buff?

Manoekin · February 2016

frozywozy wrote: »

So people are still running proximity in 1v1? what a shame. I though that would be gone.

There's no way to get rid of it in 1v1 and still have it perform its function. It's like getting two skills off at the same exact time. Why would someone pass that up?

Dyride · February 2016

Prox det just needs to be completely scrapped as a skill. Ball groups are still going to be glowing blue in 2.3.

No matter which way they change the scaling, coordinated Proxes are going to be stupidly dangerous.

frozywozy · February 2016

Manoekin wrote: »

frozywozy wrote: »

So people are still running proximity in 1v1? what a shame. I though that would be gone.

There's no way to get rid of it in 1v1 and still have it perform its function. It's like getting two skills off at the same exact time. Why would someone pass that up?

I understand the point to use it as a burst skill. My concern is that if Prox det would deal a minimal amount of damage to one player (as they promised), it would become just more useful to just slot another ability. But as we can see in the video above, Prox det still deals significant amount of damage with 40k magicka and 4k spell damage to a single player.

Moglijuana · February 2016

Glass Cannon is better than the Squirt Gun that we are now =D

AddictionX · February 2016

frozywozy wrote: »

Manoekin wrote: »

frozywozy wrote: »

So people are still running proximity in 1v1? what a shame. I though that would be gone.

There's no way to get rid of it in 1v1 and still have it perform its function. It's like getting two skills off at the same exact time. Why would someone pass that up?

I understand the point to use it as a burst skill. My concern is that if Prox det would deal a minimal amount of damage to one player (as they promised), it would become just more useful to just slot another ability. But as we can see in the video above, Prox det still deals significant amount of damage with 40k magicka and 4k spell damage to a single player.

I wish that upon the shooting stars known as meteors.

Flawlless · February 2016

@Sypher Are you going to use chains as your gap closer in 1vX situations? Or just not use one?

Erondil · February 2016

Dyride wrote: »

Prox det just needs to be completely scrapped as a skill. Ball groups are still going to be glowing blue in 2.3.

No matter which way they change the scaling, coordinated Proxes are going to be stupidly dangerous.

Of course it will. But 2 coordinated proxi is gonna be way more dangerous for a group of 20 tight than the other way around. It will now be a zergbuster.

Dyride · February 2016

After watching the video again, more than half of the duels are Stack DoTs-->Meteor-->Fossilize-->Lash Lash gg.

DKsUnite · February 2016

Sypher wrote: »

Also, Magicka DK has always been decent in 1v1's, I'm still not sure how the magicka DK buffs will translate into open world but I'm hoping for the best.

With a build like that i dont think very well. I saw you fight Kodi and your resource problems, i can only imagine how 1v3 would eat your resources

Sypher · February 2016

DKsUnite wrote: »

Sypher wrote: »

Also, Magicka DK has always been decent in 1v1's, I'm still not sure how the magicka DK buffs will translate into open world but I'm hoping for the best.

With a build like that i dont think very well. I saw you fight Kodi and your resource problems, i can only imagine how 1v3 would eat your resources

I only lost duels when using Kena, which eats up my resources.

With Bloodspawn I was able to manage through out all the duels.

DKsUnite · February 2016

Sypher wrote: »

DKsUnite wrote: »

Sypher wrote: »

Also, Magicka DK has always been decent in 1v1's, I'm still not sure how the magicka DK buffs will translate into open world but I'm hoping for the best.

With a build like that i dont think very well. I saw you fight Kodi and your resource problems, i can only imagine how 1v3 would eat your resources

I only lost duels when using Kena, which eats up my resources.

With Bloodspawn I was able to manage through out all the duels.

Ah I didn't see the duels without Kena.

Huggalump · February 2016

Manoekin wrote: »

Magicka DK seem just so much more tanky with the added healing and only being able to reflect once. Empowering chains is amazing and works like Ambush in that can be used while rooted and over gaps. The biggest thing though is the dot damage against shields and blocking targets. The pressure is always on, and in my fights against them on PTS my most used skill is probably purify >_<.

did they change shields so all dots work on them? Or is this just a dk thing?

Manoekin · February 2016

Huggalump wrote: »

Manoekin wrote: »

Magicka DK seem just so much more tanky with the added healing and only being able to reflect once. Empowering chains is amazing and works like Ambush in that can be used while rooted and over gaps. The biggest thing though is the dot damage against shields and blocking targets. The pressure is always on, and in my fights against them on PTS my most used skill is probably purify >_<.

did they change shields so all dots work on them? Or is this just a dk thing?

all dots. Except for "bleed damage" which goes through shields.

dantator · February 2016

Time to unleash my High Elf Magicka DK once again

Ghostbane · February 2016

Obviously this is just a fart around dueling setup, and not a roaming attire. With the state of magicka DKs the past year, I don't blame anyone for dressing up in glass slippers and going full Molag Bal.

Alucardo · February 2016

True, Magicka DKs have always been pretty decent in 1v1s, but on the PTS you can really tell they received some buffs, which was well needed.
Because everyone was duelling there wasn't much of a chance to test it in real open world battle, but I took mine to IC and the increased healing really helps. Definitely feeling more tanky now. Didn't even use a resto staff, which normally I would.

I see you're rocking the new combat text. How do you find it? I really like it. It's not too in your face, gives you the details you want and positions itself really well. I can't wait for that one to go live. I found it much nicer than the addons if I'm honest. ZOS did a great job on it.

Septimus_Magna · February 2016

Good fights Sypher, Im curious how strong DKs will be in group fights.

Erondil wrote: »

Dyride wrote: »

Prox det just needs to be completely scrapped as a skill. Ball groups are still going to be glowing blue in 2.3.

No matter which way they change the scaling, coordinated Proxes are going to be stupidly dangerous.

Of course it will. But 2 coordinated proxi is gonna be way more dangerous for a group of 20 tight than the other way around. It will now be a zergbuster.

24 Well-coordinated Proxy Dets will be even more dangerous, hopefully this will break-up those giant pug zergs.

Alucardo · February 2016

Septimus_Magna wrote: »

Im curious how strong DKs will be in group fights.

Me too. I tried taking a few keeps and outposts yesterday in an attempt to provoke some proper war, but sadly only one nightblade showed up.
Everyone else was duelling around Chalman, which I totally get, they want to try the new skills. But I'd really like to see how magicka DK performs in group fights like you say.

Xsorus · February 2016

Sypher how ya think 5 Elfborn/5 Vicious/2 Valkyns will do (They upgraded it back to being decent again)

Darnathian · February 2016

Dyride wrote: »

Prox det just needs to be completely scrapped as a skill. Ball groups are still going to be glowing blue in 2.3.

No matter which way they change the scaling, coordinated Proxes are going to be stupidly dangerous.

Correct me if i am wrong. But even if you have 24 players in Raid, if you charge into numbers greater than your own it will scale higher still right? Means you can take on even bigger mobs of players now at keeps.

Darnathian · February 2016

Sypher, name of first song plz?

MountainHound · February 2016

Dyride wrote: »

Prox det just needs to be completely scrapped as a skill. Ball groups are still going to be glowing blue in 2.3.

No matter which way they change the scaling, coordinated Proxes are going to be stupidly dangerous.

You can get 100% proxy damage vs ball groups. Run that with the vicious set + spamming more skills in between and big groups will be wiped.

T3hOwnage69 · February 2016

Septimus_Magna wrote: »

Good fights Sypher, Im curious how strong DKs will be in group fights.

Erondil wrote: »

Dyride wrote: »

Prox det just needs to be completely scrapped as a skill. Ball groups are still going to be glowing blue in 2.3.

No matter which way they change the scaling, coordinated Proxes are going to be stupidly dangerous.

Of course it will. But 2 coordinated proxi is gonna be way more dangerous for a group of 20 tight than the other way around. It will now be a zergbuster.

24 Well-coordinated Proxy Dets will be even more dangerous, hopefully this will break-up those giant pug zergs.

those 24 make you a zerg aswell

Septimus_Magna · February 2016

T3hOwnage69 wrote: »

Septimus_Magna wrote: »

Good fights Sypher, Im curious how strong DKs will be in group fights.

Erondil wrote: »

Dyride wrote: »

Prox det just needs to be completely scrapped as a skill. Ball groups are still going to be glowing blue in 2.3.

No matter which way they change the scaling, coordinated Proxes are going to be stupidly dangerous.

Of course it will. But 2 coordinated proxi is gonna be way more dangerous for a group of 20 tight than the other way around. It will now be a zergbuster.

24 Well-coordinated Proxy Dets will be even more dangerous, hopefully this will break-up those giant pug zergs.

those 24 make you a zerg aswell

I wouldnt call a 24-man group a giant zerg, we often fight groups of 40-60 players on Azura EU.

Yesterday my Killcounter add-on registered roughly 100 kills while taking Ash, thats just kills tagged by members from our group. If you bring a much smaller group there's nothing you can do against that many players.

Stoney_McGeee · February 2016

MAgic Dks will be a Zerg buster.. All that AOE buffs makes me excited.