Stamina Builds: How are you taking the news?

Edziu · February 2016

Debating/Planning on quitting.

so crap for stamina.....more thanks only CP changes

The Apprentice
Elemental Expert: This ability now increases Flame, Frost, Shock, and Magic Damage dealt by you, instead of Flame, Frost, and Shock Damage only.
ok, so nica for magica builds like mighty for stamina....but stamina still ned now also this elemtal expert when magica need only elemtal for full dmg

and hardy...with psychical dmg reduction..this is for me a nail into the coffin for stmaina builds..on stamina you have beetr dmg than on magica, but some worse survivability, so balance in this so good now, I have now 8k-10k |SA hit agains light armors with not good survivability in longer fights, if somene spend point in hardy to reduce psychical dmg....I think it will be then 6k-8k hits like on magica NB and still (worse) survivability thanks dots are only suppress while dark cloak...
just see 75% deads from siege weapons thank this.
sorc can shield it, templar purge/heal, dk some shield and heal, nb stamina? not good heal with vigor agains dot from siege weapon

also...sorc now will be on max dmg, elemtal and magic dmg in 1, ehhh, shieldstacking still op, no any nerfs, just buff to psychiacl resist and

Heavy Weapon Expert: This ability now increases your damage against damage shields, instead of increasing your damage with maces and axes. We also renamed this ability to Shattering Blows..

while is this 501 cp cap its useless for 1st you need to spend cp in mighty and then to precise strikes/penetration agains all enemies when this Shattering Blows will be only for dmg sorcs with power maybe mighty, so for now or mighty or Shattering blows, you can choose only this 1 while this cp cap....so for me its pretty useless for this moment

nice for for sorcs in damaging + in defensive when stamina build have not much better buffs, also only pretty buff for me while stamina ulties and killers blade are still on *** useless magic dmg while lowered psychical dmg againt players with CP

BlackEar · February 2016

Not good, but will manage.

Iyas wrote: »

BlackEar wrote: »

Stamplars are still dead.

Hopefully with the Dark Brotherhood patch then... Might be I should just change to Magicka right away instead of waiting.

Why is Stamplar dead?! In all seriousness. Its going to be so good with jabs finally a snare and a major mending buff for our heals

@Iyas It does not help much with the DPS aspect.

Iyas · February 2016

BlackEar wrote: »

Iyas wrote: »

BlackEar wrote: »

Stamplars are still dead.

Hopefully with the Dark Brotherhood patch then... Might be I should just change to Magicka right away instead of waiting.

Why is Stamplar dead?! In all seriousness. Its going to be so good with jabs finally a snare and a major mending buff for our heals

@Iyas It does not help much with the DPS aspect.

Are we talking about pvp or pve? Because my oppinion is based on the pvp Stamplar view

Jura23 · February 2016

Not good, but will manage.

I don!t get it. When the CP feedback thread was set up by Wrobel, where were you ppl? Everybody was calling for these changes, go look it up. Now you come complain? Too late. I was saying this from the begginning, but now I don't care anymore, switching to magicka and calling it a day.

DurzoBlint13 · February 2016

EnemyOfDaState wrote: »

Well I just learned yesterday that heavy armor is pointless and I should wear medium now apparently my stamina is pointless to. If I had known 99% of DK class abilities were pointless for stamina I would have picked a different class. My class is pretty much 2 hand at this point.

then do not go with a stam sorc because the ONLY attacks they have are the weapon skills

sekou_trayvond · February 2016

All good here. Don't PvP and I only run dungeons with a dedicated group of friends. We'll just adjust and help each other out and get better.

This game is more about the camaraderie I share with them while doing Undaunted stuff than fretting over changes to my build.

sirrmattus · February 2016

Debating/Planning on quitting.

Derra wrote: »

Stamina templars got huge buffs. Barely something changed for stam DKs which are in a good spot (dots and bleeds through block and on shields could be huge aswell as dotdmg cp).

Sorcs and NBs however...

in what way?

coolermh · February 2016

Just fine. These changes were necessary.

My magika sorc is like yay!!! My stamblade is like booo!!!

dday3six · February 2016

Not good, but will manage.

Not going to quit, but I have upped the pace of leveling a Dark Elf DK.

TotterTates · February 2016

It's not so much the changes that bother me, as the lack of needed changes/fixes.

munkt0r · February 2016

Strider_Roshin wrote: »

Forestd16b14_ESO wrote: »

Hmm bunch of buffs to magic users cause they cry way to much barely to no changes to stamina ...... oh yea ZOS still hates tanks.

Do you see how they made it so it's a flat physical resistance increase rather than it scaling off of your armor rating for the light medium and heavy armor passive? Why even wear heavy anymore?

I was confused by that as well.

I might be misunderstanding, but it seems like someone in light or medium can in essence attain relatively equal physical resist as someone in full heavy...

What am I misunderstanding, because that doesn't make sense and surely something as nonsensical is a misunderstanding.

Lettigall · February 2016

Debating/Planning on quitting.

If this is what going live only reason why I'll download patch and log in will be to check situation in Cyrodiil.

coolermh · February 2016

Just fine. These changes were necessary.

Yolokin_Swagonborn wrote: »

so sorcerers can get 25% flat physical damage reduction on top of their shields now?

LOL

Yea but they wont...sorcs will still put all their points in bastion so they wont have a full 25% dmg red

acw37162 · February 2016

Derra wrote: »

Stamina templars got huge buffs. Barely something changed for stam DKs which are in a good spot (dots and bleeds through block and on shields could be huge aswell as dotdmg cp).

Sorcs and NBs however...

What patch notes did you read? Enlighten me on stamina Templar buffs increased javeline distance and snare on jabs equals huge buffs, stamina Templars are now the bottom of the barrel, by a rather large margin.

acw37162 · February 2016

tennant94 wrote: »

My magicka sorc is crying with joy

This is no joke maybe the best DPS, tank, and healer in the game now in one spec. Don't even have to change gear or champion points.

It's amazing sorcs were actually buffed.

RatedChaotic · February 2016

Debating/Planning on quitting.

Good changes and bad changes and yet still there are things broken that has been for almost 2 yrs.

Thavie · February 2016

Not good, but will manage.

I'm just fine now. Because I've already leveled magica sorc. But my dear stamblade gone to rest.

AddictionX · February 2016

Not good, but will manage.

Kerioko wrote: »

Some changes I am good with, other its ohwell:

- Adding physical resist to CP......I don't have a problem with this because Azura's and BWB are going to be CP free campaigns

just to be clear that means no abilities like the passives at the very top... you still use the cp points.

Mojomonkeyman · February 2016

The two strongest open world pvp setups are both magicka right now - lets buff magicka!

Game can`t be good if developers don`t play it.

KallistaBlackheart · February 2016

Other.

other. test server, we do not know how it will shake out yet. if it stays as per the notes..... will adapt.

Duiwel · February 2016

Other.

My people are known their hardiness & adaptability.

I will be like a chameleon and change

dodgehopper_ESO · February 2016

Necrelios wrote: »

Overall these changes will be good for the game in the long run, especially for PvP IMHO. There's always room for further tweaking and adjustments down the road so if it's too much it won't be the end of the world. My Magicka DK feels pretty good about these changes, and my Stam DK... well I'll learn to adjust. I think the main issue is not so much with these changes but is still the no stamina regen during blocking to top it off all off. For tanks, that always felt a bit extreme. I can see the necessity but would prefer a moderate stamina regen debuff while blocking instead of zero regen at all.

I really don't understand why couldn't lower your regen rather than completely shutting it off. No other activity does this to a core skill/technique.

Ampnode · February 2016

Recremen wrote: »

They're probably going to eventually need to buff stamina damage, especially melee, again as the result of some of these changes, but eh, the changes don't seem so bad (on paper) that I won't keep having fun in medium armor and wielding a sword.

If you increase Surprise Attack's current 7K+ damage anymore I'll cry.

On a serious note... I think with the revision of the CP system will help out the crazy numbers that NB's DPS and WBs have been giving out on live.

Edziu · February 2016

Debating/Planning on quitting.

Ampnode wrote: »

Recremen wrote: »

They're probably going to eventually need to buff stamina damage, especially melee, again as the result of some of these changes, but eh, the changes don't seem so bad (on paper) that I won't keep having fun in medium armor and wielding a sword.

If you increase Surprise Attack's current 7K+ damage anymore I'll cry.

On a serious note... I think with the revision of the CP system will help out the crazy numbers that NB's DPS and WBs have been giving out on live.

hyhyhy, so lplease nerf SA to the groung and make then 100% stam build using WRECK BLOW

it will be so funny when ALL stam build will kill you on 2nd hit with annyoing knocback or on 3rd if he have low CP xD

TheShadowScout · February 2016

Other.

We play.
We get nerfed.
We play again.

Gamesystem changes are just the way things go. There were changes before, there will be changes again... one just leans how the changes impact ones playstyle and adjusts. Sometimes one build it top, then things change, and another build is top.

Some people I cannot properly express my opinion about without breaking forums rules whine about it, the rest deals with it.

NewBlacksmurf · February 2016

Other.

The game design....is magic.
The visual representation is magic...

I think the weapons and armor are what need A LOT of attention and drastic changes because for a stamina build...IMO...the focus should be heavily on weapons / armor and the weapons / armor should have awesome skills. All of them but there are only a few compared to class skills

bbrown0770 · February 2016

Other.

over time the game is going to change that has happened in every online game I ever played you just need to figure out what you need to do to adapt to the change and roll with. it its a mmo game you are her to have fun and play with other players, not get all upset and whine, if you can't ltp the changes and have fun then maybe it is time for you to move on and find something you have fun doing .

Swainyboy · February 2016

What are the actual nerfs to stamina builds? 2H specifically? can someone break it down for me haha

RedRoomGaming · February 2016

Other.

Potato to everyone.

kendellking_chaosb14_ESO · February 2016

Other.

After being a Stamina Nightblade since beta seeing my play style and Class both go from completely useless to usable to powerful I refuse to go back.

After 2 1/2 years it's time to become a shield stacking sorcerer.