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Stamina Builds: How are you taking the news?
Strider_Roshin
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Here are the patch notes: http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/245011/pts-patch-notes-v2-3-0/p1
Edited by Strider_Roshin on February 3, 2016 11:15PM Stamina Builds: How are you taking the news? 213 votes
Just fine. These changes were necessary.
32%
69 votes
Not good, but will manage.
29%
63 votes
Debating/Planning on quitting.
19%
42 votes
Other.
18%
39 votes
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Forestd16b14_ESO✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Other.Hmm bunch of buffs to magic users cause they cry way to much barely to no changes to stamina ...... oh yea ZOS still hates tanks.2 -
ThePonzzz✭✭✭✭✭
✭Other.Fixed an issue where it was possible to recover Stamina while using sprint or crouch.
Didn't realize that was a bug, ouch.6 -
Derra✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Other.Stamina templars got huge buffs. Barely something changed for stam DKs which are in a good spot (dots and bleeds through block and on shields could be huge aswell as dotdmg cp).
Sorcs and NBs however...<Noricum>
I live. I die. I live again.
Derra - DC - Sorc - AvA 50
Derrah - EP - Sorc - AvA 503 -
Rune_Relic✭✭✭✭✭
✭Progress in many ways.
In others ......no change.
Anything that can be exploited will be exploited1 -
Strider_Roshin✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Debating/Planning on quitting.Forestd16b14_ESO wrote: »Hmm bunch of buffs to magic users cause they cry way to much barely to no changes to stamina ...... oh yea ZOS still hates tanks.
Do you see how they made it so it's a flat physical resistance increase rather than it scaling off of your armor rating for the light medium and heavy armor passive? Why even wear heavy anymore?6 -
Debating/Planning on quitting.Hmm, I was planning on making my imperial stamplar a tank, but I'm going to leave tanking alone.I used to be an adventurer like you, but then I took an arrow to the knee...
Khajiit Nightblade- V15
Imperial Templar- V1
Altmer Sorc- Lvl 28
Dunmer Nightblade- Lvl 19 (WIP)2 -
Tryxus✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Not good, but will manage.Was working on a StamBlade, but imma keep on lvling and prepping him for Cyrodiil
Imma L2P and adapt regardless"Stand strong, stay true and shelter all."
Tryxus - Guardian of the Green - Warden - PC/EU2 -
D0ntevenL1ft✭✭✭✭✭Debating/Planning on quitting.Stamina templars got huge buffs. Barely something changed for stam DKs which are in a good spot (dots and bleeds through block and on shields could be huge aswell as dotdmg cp).
Sorcs and NBs however...
Dots do damage through shields to direct health? Or dots do damage to the shields themselves?0 -
Recremen✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭They're probably going to eventually need to buff stamina damage, especially melee, again as the result of some of these changes, but eh, the changes don't seem so bad (on paper) that I won't keep having fun in medium armor and wielding a sword.Men'Do PC NA AD Khajiit
Grand High Illustrious Mid-Tier PvP/PvE Bussmunster1 -
EnemyOfDaState✭✭✭✭Well I just learned yesterday that heavy armor is pointless and I should wear medium now apparently my stamina is pointless to. If I had known 99% of DK class abilities were pointless for stamina I would have picked a different class. My class is pretty much 2 hand at this point.5 -
D0ntevenL1ft✭✭✭✭✭Debating/Planning on quitting.I dont really understand.. Magicka nb and Magicka sorc still mostly dominated PvP without the physical resist and now they have that backing them as well? Shields, cloak, burst, and resist
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Miszou✭✭✭✭✭
✭Fixed an issue where it was possible to recover Stamina while using sprint or crouch.
Didn't realize that was a bug, ouch.
Seriously?
With all the skills and items that reduce stamina use while crouching, and the well-fitted gear and all that? You thought it was somehow normal to regenerate stamina while running or crouching?
I don't believe you.0 -
Forestd16b14_ESO✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Other.Strider_Roshin wrote: »Forestd16b14_ESO wrote: »Hmm bunch of buffs to magic users cause they cry way to much barely to no changes to stamina ...... oh yea ZOS still hates tanks.
Do you see how they made it so it's a flat physical resistance increase rather than it scaling off of your armor rating for the light medium and heavy armor passive? Why even wear heavy anymore?
IDK cause ZOS clearly wants it gone from the game now cause hey DPS cry that freaking much that ZOS is removing tanks from t he game so that DPS players can get easy kills while also having better survivalbility than a HA users.
Way to go ZOS screwing tanks over yet again.6 -
TotterTates✭✭✭✭EnemyOfDaState wrote: »Well I just learned yesterday that heavy armor is pointless and I should wear medium now apparently my stamina is pointless to. If I had known 99% of DK class abilities were pointless for stamina I would have picked a different class. My class is pretty much 2 hand at this point.
Two-Handed = Master ClassCuppincakes- Imperial Dragonknight (Tank)
- Pre-TG vMA Score: 459,636 [55:36, 0 Sigils, 0 Deaths] (Stamina)
- Post-TG vMA Score: 537,328 [53:36, 0 Sigils, 0 Deaths] (Stamina)
- Altmer Sorc (DPS)
- Dunmer Dragonknight (Healer/DPS)
- Argonian Templar (Healer)
- Khajiit Nightblade (DPS)
My Twitch Channel: TotterTanks7 -
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✭✭Other.Converting to stamina.Profanity filter is a crime against the freedom of speech. Also gags.0 -
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✭Other.Fixed an issue where it was possible to recover Stamina while using sprint or crouch.
Didn't realize that was a bug, ouch.
Seriously?
With all the skills and items that reduce stamina use while crouching, and the well-fitted gear and all that? You thought it was somehow normal to regenerate stamina while running or crouching?
I don't believe you.
It still cost stamina. I still burn stamina while running/crouched. I figured the ticks back were normal. I figured using well-fitted would keep it so you gained. Makes well-fitted even MORE useless.3 -
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✭✭Other.Sticking to my Stamina NB. If the nerfs bother me,I'll rearrange my skill set to get the best benefits out of my class.
And to those who hit the "debating/planning on quitting" button,...awe,c'mon,..really? You'd leave such an incredible game world just because you dont like the way Stamina builds have changed? I personally plan on adapting to said changes.
It would take something actually very big for me to even entertain the thought of leaving.But then again,I really do love ESO and all that goes with it.4 -
Kwivur✭✭✭✭Just fine. These changes were necessary.I've been around around to adapt to more changes than I can remember. Time to L2P.. again.8 -
attackjet✭✭✭✭Just fine. These changes were necessary.No class is op in my opinion. Its all about the player3
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Strider_Roshin✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Debating/Planning on quitting.Sticking to my Stamina NB. If the nerfs bother me,I'll rearrange my skill set to get the best benefits out of my class.
And to those who hit the "debating/planning on quitting" button,...awe,c'mon,..really? You'd leave such an incredible game world just because you dont like the way Stamina builds have changed? I personally plan on adapting to said changes.
It would take something actually very big for me to even entertain the thought of leaving.But then again,I really do love ESO and all that goes with it.
These changes are ridiculous. I have zero tolerance for such gross imbalances. I don't care if I still perform quite well; it's the principal of the matter. I left Destiny for the same reasons. I was very successful with that game as well, but the horrible imbalances in that game just made me so angry, that I quit. I'll see what the ending result of this PTS will be before I make my decision though.3 -
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✭✭✭Debating/Planning on quitting.No stam moph on dk whip, zenimaxed again....
Yeah and Killer's Blade still causes magic damage, and Radial Sweep and Death Stroke still don't have a physical damage morph. I think it's pretty obvious by now that ZOS puts a whole lot more thought into magicka builds than they do stamina. Anyone that's been here since the beginning can see that this game is circling back to how it was originally. Light armor, magicka builds ruling everything; while stamina builds and Nightblades are garbage.5 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Debating/Planning on quitting.Strider_Roshin wrote: »No stam moph on dk whip, zenimaxed again....
Yeah and Killer's Blade still causes magic damage, and Radial Sweep and Death Stroke still don't have a physical damage morph. I think it's pretty obvious by now that ZOS puts a whole lot more thought into magicka builds than they do stamina. Anyone that's been here since the beginning can see that this game is circling back to how it was originally. Light armor, magicka builds ruling everything; while stamina builds and Nightblades are garbage.
all truth, and for me, i think it might be time to look for a new mmo to place my money in, and maybe say goodbye to eso.5 -
JubJub✭✭✭Just fine. These changes were necessary.Are you guys really mad over the minor changes I mean it is just a game it's not the end of the world..3
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Gilliamtherogue✭✭✭✭✭
✭Debating/Planning on quitting.The massive indirect nerfs to stamina nightblades in PvE has put us in an even worse situation than they were before. I had to work harder than any class for my DPS and I still was out shined by most other builds. Now I have lost all forms of resource management and took a heavy blow to AoE with no redistribution of power anywhere in my kit. Just more perfect examples of how Zenimax fails to grasp the concept of chain reactions when nerfing particular things. Stamina finally teetering the line of competitive balance in PvE was the reason I stuck around so long, and now with that shattered, I have little reason to stay.Old member of The Order of Mundus, Mostly Harmless, Hostile, and Genesis Elite. Avid theorycrafter. Herald to competitive stamina DPS pre 1.5. How far we've come!
Have questions? Send me a message on the forums or my other social media. Seeing people learn is my dream and passion.
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Huggalump✭✭✭✭slumber_sandb16_ESO wrote: »Still waiting for tank improvements.
I don't understand the tanking complaints. I'm a stam sorc and specced out all for pvp, but I have extra skill points thrown into heavy armor so I can tank. My tanking gear is just whatever I could afford and my champion points are set up for pvp dps.... and I have no problem tanking any 4 man dungeon.
Are the complaints only for trials? I haven't tried those, tbh0
