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Noone should panic about the PTS.

Whatzituyah
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You know what PTS stands for? Public Test Server its for you to give feedback after trying it out. I am only saying this because some people are mad about the nerfs these things are possibly not final. Which means things could have a minor or major tweak afterwards you never know.

My 2 Septims.
  • Jhunn
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    They never listen to what's said on PTS.

    My 2 septims.
    Gave up.
  • Whatzituyah
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    Jhunn wrote: »
    They never listen to what's said on PTS.

    My 2 septims.

    Well if thats true they are missing the point of a PTS.
  • Didgerion
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    Maybe you confuse Panic with being Vocal.....
    Being vocal helps sometimes to be heard....
  • Whatzituyah
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    Didgerion wrote: »
    Maybe you confuse Panic with being Vocal.....
    Being vocal helps sometimes to be heard....

    Well yeah but some actually seem that way more than being constructive. Than what else should the title be? I am open to suggestions.

    @Didgerion
    Edited by Whatzituyah on February 4, 2016 7:29AM
  • Molag_Crow
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    Didgerion wrote: »
    Maybe you confuse Panic with being Vocal.....
    Being vocal helps sometimes to be heard....

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  • Shunravi
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    You must be new here...

    Well, welcome. Maybe they will listen this time.
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  • Whatzituyah
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    Shunravi wrote: »
    You must be new here...

    Well, welcome. Maybe they will listen this time.

    I am on console I have seen the worst bug after a patch on PS4 where the beam effects were invisible and we had to wait a long time for a fix. Besides that were the long loading screens and crashes that don't make sense.
    Edited by Whatzituyah on February 4, 2016 7:36AM
  • Baconlad
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    i'm sorry...but if it's on PTS? it's permanent, set aside from game breaking bugs. they have rarely changed things that "people just don't like" from PTS. they'll "consider" (laugh at) our suggestion to better the game, and hopefully next patch ("Soon" TM) will get implemented...so *** us
  • Magdalina
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    Jhunn wrote: »
    They never listen to what's said on PTS.

    My 2 septims.

    Well if thats true they are missing the point of a PTS.

    They are and that's true. I can't recall a time they'd fix a reported gamebreaking bug/postpone live patch til it was fixed due to PTS testing.
  • Shunravi
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    Shunravi wrote: »
    You must be new here...

    Well, welcome. Maybe they will listen this time.

    I am on console I have seen the worst bug after a patch on PS4 where the beam effects were invisible and we had to wait a long time for a fix.

    Well, speaking of the pts, they really just seem to listen to bugs, and they rarely seem deviate much from their direction going in. And sometimes they will push a patch live with those bugs even though they are well documented. Based on this history, I would say panic is justified, and that these things may as well be set in stone.
    This one has an eloquent and well thought out response to tha... Ooh sweetroll!
  • Whatzituyah
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    Shunravi wrote: »
    Shunravi wrote: »
    You must be new here...

    Well, welcome. Maybe they will listen this time.

    I am on console I have seen the worst bug after a patch on PS4 where the beam effects were invisible and we had to wait a long time for a fix.

    Well, speaking of the pts, they really just seem to listen to bugs, and they rarely seem deviate much from their direction going in. And sometimes they will push a patch live with those bugs even though they are well documented. Based on this history, I would say panic is justified, and that these things may as well be set in stone.

    Nothing in a business should be set in stone! Changes must be made to benefit the company and please the customers.
    Edited by Whatzituyah on February 4, 2016 7:43AM
  • Thornen
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    Shunravi wrote: »
    Shunravi wrote: »
    You must be new here...

    Well, welcome. Maybe they will listen this time.

    I am on console I have seen the worst bug after a patch on PS4 where the beam effects were invisible and we had to wait a long time for a fix.

    Well, speaking of the pts, they really just seem to listen to bugs, and they rarely seem deviate much from their direction going in. And sometimes they will push a patch live with those bugs even though they are well documented. Based on this history, I would say panic is justified, and that these things may as well be set in stone.

    Nothing in a business should be set in stone! Changes must be made to benefit the company and please the customers.

    Zos can't even manage sticking to a maintenance schedule how on earth do you think they're going to be able to implement anything but rudimentary bug fixes before this goes live?
    Edited by Thornen on February 4, 2016 7:48AM
  • TheShadowScout
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    ...maybe they should add an extra login screen for the PTS, saying "DON'T PANIC" in big, friendly letters... ;)
  • Whatzituyah
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    Thornen wrote: »
    Shunravi wrote: »
    Shunravi wrote: »
    You must be new here...

    Well, welcome. Maybe they will listen this time.

    I am on console I have seen the worst bug after a patch on PS4 where the beam effects were invisible and we had to wait a long time for a fix.

    Well, speaking of the pts, they really just seem to listen to bugs, and they rarely seem deviate much from their direction going in. And sometimes they will push a patch live with those bugs even though they are well documented. Based on this history, I would say panic is justified, and that these things may as well be set in stone.

    Nothing in a business should be set in stone! Changes must be made to benefit the company and please the customers.

    Zos can't even manage sticking to a maintenance schedule how on earth do you think they're going to be able to implement anything but rudimentary bug fixes before this goes live?

    I would delay it til we find another solution but just ZoS I would say you have a point maybe. I don't know Zenimax very well other than the game was broken from the start.
  • Magdalina
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    Shunravi wrote: »
    Shunravi wrote: »
    You must be new here...

    Well, welcome. Maybe they will listen this time.

    I am on console I have seen the worst bug after a patch on PS4 where the beam effects were invisible and we had to wait a long time for a fix.

    Well, speaking of the pts, they really just seem to listen to bugs, and they rarely seem deviate much from their direction going in. And sometimes they will push a patch live with those bugs even though they are well documented. Based on this history, I would say panic is justified, and that these things may as well be set in stone.

    Nothing in a business should be set in stone! Changes must be made to benefit the company and please the customers.

    Definitely new. Welcome to the community ;) I hope you don't end up too disappointed. Just always take it for granted that ZOS doesn't have a clue what they're doing and you'll be fine.
  • Whatzituyah
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    Magdalina wrote: »
    Shunravi wrote: »
    Shunravi wrote: »
    You must be new here...

    Well, welcome. Maybe they will listen this time.

    I am on console I have seen the worst bug after a patch on PS4 where the beam effects were invisible and we had to wait a long time for a fix.

    Well, speaking of the pts, they really just seem to listen to bugs, and they rarely seem deviate much from their direction going in. And sometimes they will push a patch live with those bugs even though they are well documented. Based on this history, I would say panic is justified, and that these things may as well be set in stone.

    Nothing in a business should be set in stone! Changes must be made to benefit the company and please the customers.

    Definitely new. Welcome to the community ;) I hope you don't end up too disappointed. Just always take it for granted that ZOS doesn't have a clue what they're doing and you'll be fine.

    Are they worse than PGI? If no than its way better. They used the Crysis Engine for a F2P game so that means you have to have a powerful rig to even play it and there are microtransactions.
    Edited by Whatzituyah on February 4, 2016 8:00AM
  • Shunravi
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    Shunravi wrote: »
    Shunravi wrote: »
    You must be new here...

    Well, welcome. Maybe they will listen this time.

    I am on console I have seen the worst bug after a patch on PS4 where the beam effects were invisible and we had to wait a long time for a fix.

    Well, speaking of the pts, they really just seem to listen to bugs, and they rarely seem deviate much from their direction going in. And sometimes they will push a patch live with those bugs even though they are well documented. Based on this history, I would say panic is justified, and that these things may as well be set in stone.

    Nothing in a business should be set in stone! Changes must be made to benefit the company and please the customers.

    Well, again, welcome. I hope you aren't to disappointed.
    This one has an eloquent and well thought out response to tha... Ooh sweetroll!
  • Whatzituyah
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    Shunravi wrote: »
    Shunravi wrote: »
    Shunravi wrote: »
    You must be new here...

    Well, welcome. Maybe they will listen this time.

    I am on console I have seen the worst bug after a patch on PS4 where the beam effects were invisible and we had to wait a long time for a fix.

    Well, speaking of the pts, they really just seem to listen to bugs, and they rarely seem deviate much from their direction going in. And sometimes they will push a patch live with those bugs even though they are well documented. Based on this history, I would say panic is justified, and that these things may as well be set in stone.

    Nothing in a business should be set in stone! Changes must be made to benefit the company and please the customers.

    Well, again, welcome. I hope you aren't to disappointed.

    I feel insulted your welcoming me in a place I am already in. :D
  • MrDerrikk
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    Well, you picked the wrong time to turn up to the game mate :p a week ago everyone was smiling happy people holding hands, now that the PTS notes are out however...
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  • Shunravi
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    Shunravi wrote: »
    Shunravi wrote: »
    Shunravi wrote: »
    You must be new here...

    Well, welcome. Maybe they will listen this time.

    I am on console I have seen the worst bug after a patch on PS4 where the beam effects were invisible and we had to wait a long time for a fix.

    Well, speaking of the pts, they really just seem to listen to bugs, and they rarely seem deviate much from their direction going in. And sometimes they will push a patch live with those bugs even though they are well documented. Based on this history, I would say panic is justified, and that these things may as well be set in stone.

    Nothing in a business should be set in stone! Changes must be made to benefit the company and please the customers.

    Well, again, welcome. I hope you aren't to disappointed.

    I feel insulted your welcoming me in a place I am already in. :D

    Sorry... :3
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  • Islyn
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    Bummer - I feel insulted that anyone still thinks what's on PTS doesn't go to live.
    MrDerrikk wrote: »
    Well, you picked the wrong time to turn up to the game mate :p a week ago everyone was smiling happy people holding hands, now that the PTS notes are out however...

    This.

    And it's gonna stay how it is on PTS - I bet ya anything.



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  • Whatzituyah
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    Islyn wrote: »
    Bummer - I feel insulted that anyone still thinks what's on PTS doesn't go to live.
    MrDerrikk wrote: »
    Well, you picked the wrong time to turn up to the game mate :p a week ago everyone was smiling happy people holding hands, now that the PTS notes are out however...

    This.

    And it's gonna stay how it is on PTS - I bet ya anything.



    Anything?
  • Islyn
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    Islyn wrote: »
    Bummer - I feel insulted that anyone still thinks what's on PTS doesn't go to live.
    MrDerrikk wrote: »
    Well, you picked the wrong time to turn up to the game mate :p a week ago everyone was smiling happy people holding hands, now that the PTS notes are out however...

    This.

    And it's gonna stay how it is on PTS - I bet ya anything.



    Anything?

    Anything I could feasibly deliver in this format. (Well that narrows things quite a bit lol)

    Yeah - really they do not change stuff once it's on PTS. All that happens there is we go wipe on the new trial till we learn it...
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  • Master_Kas
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    Jhunn wrote: »
    They never listen to what's said on PTS.

    My 2 septims.

    What he said.
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  • Aunatar
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    Jhunn wrote: »
    They never listen to what's said on PTS.

    My 2 septims.

    This
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  • Frenkthevile
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    Jhunn wrote: »
    They never listen to what's said on PTS.

    My 2 septims.

  • Artjuh90
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    you are aware they don't give 2 *** about live right? they are even implementing KNOWN bugs into the console live. that show how *** lazy they are
  • Whatzituyah
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    Artjuh90 wrote: »
    you are aware they don't give 2 *** about live right? they are even implementing KNOWN bugs into the console live. that show how *** lazy they are

    But the companies who can keep up with the bugs usually have a Pay to Play model rather than a Buy to Play model. With the Buy to Play model they may not have that much money compared to the ones that have the Pay to Play model.
  • Iove
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    Artjuh90 wrote: »
    you are aware they don't give 2 *** about live right? they are even implementing KNOWN bugs into the console live. that show how *** lazy they are

    But the companies who can keep up with the bugs usually have a Pay to Play model rather than a Buy to Play model. With the Buy to Play model they may not have that much money compared to the ones that have the Pay to Play model.

    They still have subscribers.
  • Whatzituyah
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    Iove wrote: »
    Artjuh90 wrote: »
    you are aware they don't give 2 *** about live right? they are even implementing KNOWN bugs into the console live. that show how *** lazy they are

    But the companies who can keep up with the bugs usually have a Pay to Play model rather than a Buy to Play model. With the Buy to Play model they may not have that much money compared to the ones that have the Pay to Play model.

    They still have subscribers.

    Because in order to play a Pay 2 Play game they need to subscribe unless they want to quit playing. So that means more money going into the company for bug fixes and what not. Here in the Buy 2 Play world however they don't get as much funds to do many fixes or to put out new content as often.
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