Major Expedition Reduced to 30% movement speed from 40%

GnGEmpire · February 2016

How does making everyone slower than what they're used to improve the game? o.0

eventide03b14a_ESO · February 2016

Did anyone actually ask for this? Why do they think this is a good idea?

Sharkano · February 2016

I think 31.5% is what should have been used. It's obvious.

Iove · February 2016

/golfclap

failkiwib16_ESO · February 2016

O.o was it used in some exploit or something, otherwise why?

leem1988 · February 2016

Zos nerfing speed builds since 2014

UrQuan · February 2016

Um, did you guys see the line right below that one in the patch notes?

Natch Potes wrote:

Increased the bonus movement speed from Sprint to 40% from 30%.

So they reduced the buff from Major Expedition by the same amount that they increased the buff from Sprint.

leem1988 · February 2016

Sorry, I meant sneak speed.

FireCowCommando · February 2016

Live: Your running away from a player whos sprinting at 30% speed, and you have the 40% major expedition buff. You are creating distance between you two.

PTS: Your running away from a player whos spiriting at 40% speed, and you have the 30% major expedition buff. You are losing distance between you two.

Think of it in terms of offense as well, you can catch up relatively easily, or stay on top of an opponent who, without major expedition, could never escape.

Forestd16b14_ESO · February 2016

Maybe it's a hint that players need to get off the game and maybe exercise.

leem1988 · February 2016

Well escape wise, you're losing speed.

Kammakazi · February 2016

I mean 40% Speed to 30% Speed, but we get an increased Sprint Speed.

The duration is also increased from 20 (Rank 4 Rapid Maneuver) to probably 34 seconds (Rank 4 Morphed)

dsalter · February 2016

FireCowCommando wrote: »

Live: Your running away from a player whos sprinting at 30% speed, and you have the 40% major expedition buff. You are creating distance between you two.

PTS: Your running away from a player whos spiriting at 40% speed, and you have the 30% major expedition buff. You are losing distance between you two.

Think of it in terms of offense as well, you can catch up relatively easily, or stay on top of an opponent who, without major expedition, could never escape.

sprint with the buff... kind of a simple fix

Jura23 · February 2016

They buffed sprint. It's clear they want ppl to be more active in their mobility management, not just push one button all the time.

Molag_Crow · February 2016

I like this change. Players who run away are tactical cowards!

TX12001rwb17_ESO · February 2016

So does this also effect elusive Mist? because now seeing as that move was already broken now it's even slower I assume.

runagate · February 2016

I desperately hate this change. Going slower is not a good change on any level.

Itoq · February 2016

For GVG I think that this is a great change. The speed at which groups can move in this game is silly.

This also will likely reduce the stress on the servers a bit.

RoyJade · February 2016

It's a good pvp change. Most people are really fast without needing any stamina, and those who use their stamina in order to run can't even get them. Now, it's more risk, more reward.

tennant94 · February 2016

It's because stam builds using bows could just roll dodge and run round rocks and trees to avoid damage, without much cost to there resources. Now they will have to sprint more which will cost more too. Game balance at its finest.

Gilvoth · February 2016

absolutely one of the most horrible things you could do to rouge styles like mine is to take away my damage and my speed.
im only here for the rouge type playstyle that was from morrowind.
i am now looking for a new mmo to play, and give my money to.

tennant94 · February 2016

@dwemer_paleologist your damage and speed hasn't disappeared it's just been reduced.

LegacyDM · February 2016

UrQuan wrote: »

Um, did you guys see the line right below that one in the patch notes?

Natch Potes wrote:

Increased the bonus movement speed from Sprint to 40% from 30%.

So they reduced the buff from Major Expedition by the same amount that they increased the buff from Sprint.

O gosh make fengrush build even more Powerful. His build is based on windrunner, Orc racial passive, and now a 40% sprint speed.

Alucardo · February 2016

Thank god I don't run around Cyrodiil any more. It's about to become even more painful.

MrDerrikk · February 2016

tennant94 wrote: »

@dwemer_paleologist your damage and speed hasn't disappeared it's just been reduced.

Not even removed, just moved to sprinting.Imagine 7pc Well-fitted now

Molag_Crow · February 2016

runagate wrote: »

I desperately hate this change. Going slower is not a good change on any level.

Welcome to the Magicka Templar reality.

Enodoc · February 2016

This is a great change I think. Getting around will be faster if you don't have Maneuver, and no slower if you do.

But Maneuver also grants Major Gallop; is that still at 40%, or has that gone down to 30% as well? @ZOS_GinaBruno ?

LegacyDM · February 2016

Enodoc wrote: »

This is a great change I think. Getting around will be faster if you don't have Maneuver, and no slower if you do.

But Maneuver also grants Major Gallop; is that still at 40%, or has that gone down to 30% as well? @ZOS_GinaBruno ?

No this is a terrible change. Every stamina class uses maneuvers in cyrodil. However, this messes with my nb double take skill. I am a magicka nb who uses double take to move around. Character movement feels slow as it is. There really is no reason to nerf movement speed other than ZOS trying to make well fitted more viable. Now your going to see a rise in Orc, windrunner, well fitted builds, while magicka nb who move around in stealth using double take feel the most pain from this unreasonable nerf.

Enodoc · February 2016

joshdm2001_ESO wrote: »

Enodoc wrote: »

This is a great change I think. Getting around will be faster if you don't have Maneuver, and no slower if you do.

But Maneuver also grants Major Gallop; is that still at 40%, or has that gone down to 30% as well? @ZOS_GinaBruno ?

No this is a terrible change. Every stamina class uses maneuvers in cyrodil. However, this messes with my nb double take skill. I am a magicka nb who uses double take to move around. Character movement feels slow as it is. There really is no reason to nerf movement speed other than ZOS trying to make well fitted more viable. Now your going to see a rise in Orc, windrunner, well fitted builds, while magicka nb who move around in stealth using double take feel the most pain from this unreasonable nerf.

Why is it terrible? Does nobody sprint while using Maneuvers?

oibam · February 2016

FireCowCommando wrote: »

Live: Your running away from a player whos sprinting at 30% speed, and you have the 40% major expedition buff. You are creating distance between you two.

PTS: Your running away from a player whos spiriting at 40% speed, and you have the 30% major expedition buff. You are losing distance between you two.

Think of it in terms of offense as well, you can catch up relatively easily, or stay on top of an opponent who, without major expedition, could never escape.

THE RISE OF WELL-FITTED TRAIT !!!

NewBlacksmurf · February 2016

FireCowCommando wrote: »

Live: Your running away from a player whos sprinting at 30% speed, and you have the 40% major expedition buff. You are creating distance between you two.

PTS: Your running away from a player whos spiriting at 40% speed, and you have the 30% major expedition buff. You are losing distance between you two.

Think of it in terms of offense as well, you can catch up relatively easily, or stay on top of an opponent who, without major expedition, could never escape.

I think that's why ppl are questioning the change. I'm not into to PvP but it's what I drew from this thread and PtS comments