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Thieves Guild on PTS - 2/3/16
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If this is the hardest content they've ever made I doubt it.Paulington wrote: »ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »
Not yet, we'll know the exact size tomorrow.Paulington wrote: »So @ZOS_GinaBruno any rough idea on download size for PC?
Templates will have 300 Champion Points.Any notice on the champ point level of templates for all in EU?
Will it be 300 again 501 or somewhere in between?
Why only 300? Every end-game guild that wants to test has capped characters so why not let us just recreate our own characters? Testing is useless as our builds are predicated around our CP numbers. Just, why? Anyone that doesn't have 300 CP or above can just spend less.
There is a whole thread on the things templates need to have to make testing in any way meaningful, have any been implemented?
It's probably because new trial is made to be doable with 300CP. Playing with characters with 501CP won't give them necessary data.
2 weeks waiting time...
Edited by Jhunn on February 3, 2016 7:20AMGave up.0 -
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If this is the hardest content they've ever made I doubt it.Paulington wrote: »ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »
Not yet, we'll know the exact size tomorrow.Paulington wrote: »So @ZOS_GinaBruno any rough idea on download size for PC?
Templates will have 300 Champion Points.Any notice on the champ point level of templates for all in EU?
Will it be 300 again 501 or somewhere in between?
Why only 300? Every end-game guild that wants to test has capped characters so why not let us just recreate our own characters? Testing is useless as our builds are predicated around our CP numbers. Just, why? Anyone that doesn't have 300 CP or above can just spend less.
There is a whole thread on the things templates need to have to make testing in any way meaningful, have any been implemented?
It's probably because new trial is made to be doable with 300CP. Playing with characters with 501CP won't give them necessary data.
2 weeks waiting time...
Majority of player base still aren't at cap. If balancing were made around people who have 501CP it would be nearly impossible for peeps with lesser CP. And if peeps 300CP complete in first days of PTS then it wouldn't be much challenge for peeps with max CP. It's a test server not a training ground.Some men just want to watch the world burn... I just want a cold beer!5 -
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'Test server'. It's not like they change anything that's ever been complained about on a PTS.
If this is the hardest content they've ever made I doubt it.Paulington wrote: »ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »
Not yet, we'll know the exact size tomorrow.Paulington wrote: »So @ZOS_GinaBruno any rough idea on download size for PC?
Templates will have 300 Champion Points.Any notice on the champ point level of templates for all in EU?
Will it be 300 again 501 or somewhere in between?
Why only 300? Every end-game guild that wants to test has capped characters so why not let us just recreate our own characters? Testing is useless as our builds are predicated around our CP numbers. Just, why? Anyone that doesn't have 300 CP or above can just spend less.
There is a whole thread on the things templates need to have to make testing in any way meaningful, have any been implemented?
It's probably because new trial is made to be doable with 300CP. Playing with characters with 501CP won't give them necessary data.
2 weeks waiting time...
Majority of player base still aren't at cap. If balancing were made around people who have 501CP it would be nearly impossible for peeps with lesser CP. And if peeps 300CP complete in first days of PTS then it wouldn't be much challenge for peeps with max CP. It's a test server not a training ground.Gave up.2 -
Woot woot! Can't wait for this.@Domminust
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It used to 3600 on the PTS, how it was to ever experience running around with a godlike character of 3600 CP....the memories.PhatGrimReaper wrote: »Paulington wrote: »ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »
Not yet, we'll know the exact size tomorrow.Paulington wrote: »So @ZOS_GinaBruno any rough idea on download size for PC?
Templates will have 300 Champion Points.Any notice on the champ point level of templates for all in EU?
Will it be 300 again 501 or somewhere in between?
Why only 300? Every end-game guild that wants to test has capped characters so why not let us just recreate our own characters? Testing is useless as our builds are predicated around our CP numbers. Just, why? Anyone that doesn't have 300 CP or above can just spend less.
There is a whole thread on the things templates need to have to make testing in any way meaningful, have any been implemented?
so much this..... most people that will seriously test this stuff will have more than 300 CP and are most likely above cap..... limiting templates to 300 is pointless.
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✭✭✭✭✭@ZOS_GinaBruno I suck at PTS but can NA make templates straight up?
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@WillhelmBlack What will be the determining factor for you?WillhelmBlack wrote: »This is it then isn't it. Crunch time. Are we staying or are we going? Couldn't give a crap about another single player NB DLC, where are the patch notes?UESP: The Unofficial Elder Scrolls Pages - A collaborative source for all knowledge on the Elder Scrolls series since 1995
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@WillhelmBlack What will be the determining factor for you?WillhelmBlack wrote: »This is it then isn't it. Crunch time. Are we staying or are we going? Couldn't give a crap about another single player NB DLC, where are the patch notes?
We will wait and see! Of course, I will play the PTS and try to provide feedback but if this game turns out any worse or out of balance from a class perspective, it's gonna be a "farewell" from me.PC EU1 -
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✭all my hopes for the game will come true or will fail with the patchnotes, Zos dont *** it up ....#makemagickadkgreataigan
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Laranoye✭✭✭Awaiting these notes is crazy! I need to know, If there's no fixes to templar's and NB stay as master race then I'm gone. Especially need a fix for Jezus beams and toppling charge... not just a nerf to our skills..0 -
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'Test server'. It's not like they change anything that's ever been complained about on a PTS.
If this is the hardest content they've ever made I doubt it.Paulington wrote: »ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »
Not yet, we'll know the exact size tomorrow.Paulington wrote: »So @ZOS_GinaBruno any rough idea on download size for PC?
Templates will have 300 Champion Points.Any notice on the champ point level of templates for all in EU?
Will it be 300 again 501 or somewhere in between?
Why only 300? Every end-game guild that wants to test has capped characters so why not let us just recreate our own characters? Testing is useless as our builds are predicated around our CP numbers. Just, why? Anyone that doesn't have 300 CP or above can just spend less.
There is a whole thread on the things templates need to have to make testing in any way meaningful, have any been implemented?
It's probably because new trial is made to be doable with 300CP. Playing with characters with 501CP won't give them necessary data.
2 weeks waiting time...
Majority of player base still aren't at cap. If balancing were made around people who have 501CP it would be nearly impossible for peeps with lesser CP. And if peeps 300CP complete in first days of PTS then it wouldn't be much challenge for peeps with max CP. It's a test server not a training ground.
But they do change things...0 -
anitajoneb17_ESO✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭'Test server'. It's not like they change anything that's ever been complained about on a PTS.
Wrong.
They do change stuff based on feedback.
Of course, reasonable and constructive feedback, not rants suggesting to change the entire design of the game.
Example : requirements of level 10 crafting writs that came with Orsinium DLC.
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@anitajoneb17_ESO What did they change there? I remember something, but not the specifics.anitajoneb17_ESO wrote: »'Test server'. It's not like they change anything that's ever been complained about on a PTS.
Wrong.
They do change stuff based on feedback.
Of course, reasonable and constructive feedback, not rants suggesting to change the entire design of the game.
Example : requirements of level 10 crafting writs that came with Orsinium DLC.
One thing they definitely did change from PTS feedback was allowing you to pick up the Imperial City intro quest from the sewer base.
There are still at least three things they haven't changed from PTS feedback though:- There's a typo in the Imperial City in-game tutorial guide which has the EP and DC captains named the wrong way around.
- The map of Imperial City is still at the wrong angle.
- Stuga, the Orc who gives you the Orsinium intro quest, should appear in every safe city, not just the starter cities (like the Prophet, Vanus Galerion, and Shalidor all do for their related quests).
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anitajoneb17_ESO✭✭✭✭✭
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@anitajoneb17_ESO What did they change there? I remember something, but not the specifics.anitajoneb17_ESO wrote: »'Test server'. It's not like they change anything that's ever been complained about on a PTS.
Wrong.
They do change stuff based on feedback.
Of course, reasonable and constructive feedback, not rants suggesting to change the entire design of the game.
Example : requirements of level 10 crafting writs that came with Orsinium DLC.
One thing they definitely did change from PTS feedback was allowing you to pick up the Imperial City intro quest from the sewer base.
There are still at least three things they haven't changed from PTS feedback though:- There's a typo in the Imperial City in-game tutorial guide which has the EP and DC captains named the wrong way around.
- The map of Imperial City is still at the wrong angle.
- Stuga, the Orc who gives you the Orsinium intro quest, should appear in every safe city, not just the starter cities (like the Prophet, Vanus Galerion, and Shalidor all do for their related quests).
I don't remember the exact figures either, iirc the original requirements for level 10 writs were 3x VR15 items, which made writs not only useless to do but rightout a mistake, as compared to the money you could make (and still can make) out of the mats on the guild stores' markets. They reduced the requirements to 1x VR15 item + the rest as VR9 items. That was the correct balance so that writs were still worth doing.
Typos, yes, I reported those too, in french it's just plain horrible, but let's say it's not gamebreaking (though I hate them). I can't understand why they don't fix it, it's easy.
Same applies to the map IMHO, annoying but we can live with it.
Your last point is IMHO debatable. The prophet, Vanus Galerion and Shalidor are all high-talented wizards who can know where you are and teleport to you using magic, I can't see how a random orc courier should be able to do the same...
There were also the 50% damage battle-levelling bug, and a number of audio issues that were fixed based on PTS feedback, too. Among other things.
PS : Giiiiinaaaaaa !!!! I'm Dying for those PTS Natch Potes !! Hurrrrryyyyyyyy !!!
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Heh fair enough. Bera Moorsmith (the Fighters Guild courier) would be a better example then; she always knows where you are too. Consider also the nameless Skyrim Courier, who delivers new side quests to you when the correct conditions are met, when you are in any of the safe towns or cities. The point is, couriers exist to find you, wherever you are; you shouldn't have to go to a certain location to find them, like you currently have to with Stuga. As it stands right now, Stuga is basically useless, as she usually turns up right next to the Ambassador. You could theoretically therefore just go straight to the Ambassador, since you're there anyway (except that she won't offer the quest directly).anitajoneb17_ESO wrote: »
@anitajoneb17_ESO What did they change there? I remember something, but not the specifics.anitajoneb17_ESO wrote: »'Test server'. It's not like they change anything that's ever been complained about on a PTS.
Wrong.
They do change stuff based on feedback.
Of course, reasonable and constructive feedback, not rants suggesting to change the entire design of the game.
Example : requirements of level 10 crafting writs that came with Orsinium DLC.
One thing they definitely did change from PTS feedback was allowing you to pick up the Imperial City intro quest from the sewer base.
There are still at least three things they haven't changed from PTS feedback though:- There's a typo in the Imperial City in-game tutorial guide which has the EP and DC captains named the wrong way around.
- The map of Imperial City is still at the wrong angle.
- Stuga, the Orc who gives you the Orsinium intro quest, should appear in every safe city, not just the starter cities (like the Prophet, Vanus Galerion, and Shalidor all do for their related quests).
I don't remember the exact figures either, iirc the original requirements for level 10 writs were 3x VR15 items, which made writs not only useless to do but rightout a mistake, as compared to the money you could make (and still can make) out of the mats on the guild stores' markets. They reduced the requirements to 1x VR15 item + the rest as VR9 items. That was the correct balance so that writs were still worth doing.
Typos, yes, I reported those too, in french it's just plain horrible, but let's say it's not gamebreaking (though I hate them). I can't understand why they don't fix it, it's easy.
Same applies to the map IMHO, annoying but we can live with it.
Your last point is IMHO debatable. The prophet, Vanus Galerion and Shalidor are all high-talented wizards who can know where you are and teleport to you using magic, I can't see how a random orc courier should be able to do the same...UESP: The Unofficial Elder Scrolls Pages - A collaborative source for all knowledge on the Elder Scrolls series since 1995
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✭✭@ZOS_GinaBruno I suck at PTS but can NA make templates straight up?
also why isnt the base champion points at cp cap?
Yes @Nifty2g you can make templates and the worst part is yours will be at CP cap if you are on live because they take the CP from your account, not the number the template is supposed to have. This whole not-at-cap business is frustrating.0 -
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I find it funny that people think that fixing something like this is easy. Just like the other guy asking somewhere else in the forums for a few cities to be moved around because of the lore.
Yes, you two are right, but fixing those mistakes is probably too hard to do for the negligible effect they have in the game. I wouldn't expect them to fix those issues at all.Edited by Ruben on February 3, 2016 12:47PMDK Stamina DPS
DK Magicka DPS
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Sorcerer Stamina DPS
Nightblade Magicka DPS
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✭✭✭✭✭@ZOS_GinaBruno pretty please Gina, give us a couple natch potes spoilers:):)
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Even as an owner of one radiant apex mounts I am against radiant apex mounts and anything thats not obtainable by direct purchase.0 -
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✭✭ArvenAldmeri wrote: »NA first. Expected as much.
Honestly it's better (for EU anyway) that NA get theirs first. The first week or so is usually buggy and then we get our characters for the rest of the quarter until Dark Brotherhood PTS.0 -
ArvenAldmeri✭✭✭✭✭Paulington wrote: »ArvenAldmeri wrote: »NA first. Expected as much.
Honestly it's better (for EU anyway) that NA get theirs first. The first week or so is usually buggy and then we get our characters for the rest of the quarter until Dark Brotherhood PTS.
First part of what you said, yes, its better, with that I agree. Second part tho, I seriously dont care if its on pts once its also live.
They are overlooking EU for very long time now and its being really annoying. EU people who write reports get answer about business hours. EU people have issues logging in game/crashing and have to wait till NA is awaken to get into the game. And that happened the two days back. You have to understand that some of us are already pretty pissed being always only second on the list in anything. Not even mentioning that the maintenance took 2 hours longer than on NA...Magicka sorcerer from start until the end. Always. Through the good times and the bad, even now when its probably saddest PvE dps it has ever been.
Even as an owner of one radiant apex mounts I am against radiant apex mounts and anything thats not obtainable by direct purchase.1 -
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Lol. I want to check it out but still without a PC. Got all my parts yesterday except my RAM and processor. Hopefully they're there when I get home tonight so i can load Windows and start downloading the entire game all over again. That's always fun.0 -
Ryuho✭✭✭✭The Farron family team (EU)
sorcerer - Rubeus Farron AR31
templar - Selene Farron AR27
nightblade - Ryuho Farron AR25
stamplar - Nura Farron AR10
stamsorcerer - Kitty Farron AR14 (adopted member)
DK - Ryu Farron AR17
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✭✭✭is it somehow possible to "upload" my character from regular megaserver to PTS, check out the Thieves Guild there and then upload back back from PTS to regular megaserver?
I am asking because it kind of sucks to play an another character on PTS and earning skill points which then are not transfered to my character or regular megaserver.
I guess it will not be possible, because if everyone would do it, it would flood the PTS like a DDOS attack
, but I am just asking to be sure Edited by altemriel on February 3, 2016 1:20PM0
