It's childish and they would be breaking their own rules.

^this

Yes to temp/permabanning exploiters, cheaters, people from exile invading EP spawn zones, guys with 7 mundus stones, etc.

No to a public ban list.

WalkingLegacy wrote: »

The MMO public in charge of a ban list. Yes, nothing will go wrong with this.

I don't feel strongly about this one way or the other (so I'm waiting to see peoples arguments for and against it before I make up my mind), but I think you're misinterpreting OP. He's not talking about the MMO public having anything to do with such a list - he's talking about ZOS being in charge of it and publishing it.

It is none of anyone else's business but ZOS and the person who committed the offense. This isn't a jail tracking magazine. We want people to learn from their mistakes not quit the game entirely. Besides, if someone is cheating then they will get banned or a warning or other appropriate measure. We do not run this game.

Seriously a bad idea, in a court of law where people are named, they are not necessarily shamed as the accused has the right to defence and to cross examine the evidence presented and some times the accused is found innocent. In MMOs, you can be accused and punished with no defence even if there is reasonable doubt. If I was accused of something then named and shamed without defence or looking at evidence to support the case then I would sue for slander.

This one would prefer their characters be turned into orcs or ugly elves for a week.

Yours with paws
Santie Claws

So I'd see a cheaters name in a forum and do what exactly? Boohoo him to death? Sorry but I just don't see the point.

Pointless suggestion, it simply isn't going to happen.

Terrible idea. It could be used to harass other players. Let's say that, oh, somebody were to register the name Markiplier, log into the game and start spouting racist or homophobic slurs. They get banned, then on the public list you see

Markiplier - Banned for violation of the Code of Conduct (racist/homophobic slurs).

The real Markiplier could end up having his reputation harmed because somebody decided to take his name and do some rather crass, awful and horrible things. And then it's up to the real one to defend himself, and in situations like that people will always assume the worst.

Now imagine this could be used against anyone. Somebody takes your real name, does some heinous acts, and it's searchable. You did nothing wrong, but now when people search your name, there's a chance this public blacklist will piing when people look up your name. And again, you did nothing wrong... but somebody decided to take action for you.

Why would someone do this, you ask? Well, if a new copy of the game could be had for $10 on one of the random sales, yes, some people can and are that spiteful to do this, especially if they can find a way to publicly shame those they may have grudges or dislikes towards. Thus a huge reason a public name-and-shame list could have huge ramifications.

In short: it's a neat idea in principal, horrible in pretty much any and every execution.

Xantaria wrote: »

Yes, it is a good thing. And for those saying no I want to be protected. NO, you dont deserve to be protected if you got banned for something you've done wrong. Also this system would even be good for people who did get banned and don't exactly understand why. They can easily check why and if they think it was a wrong decision they can apply for an unban. Because currently when you get banned you do not know why (had this happen to a friend who was incorrectly banned for scamming).

Yeah, but if this policy has been in place your "friend" would already have been listed as breaking the rules. You can't always walk these things back.

They need to do this, because as it sits right now people who exploit or cheat are NOT beingbanned but if if you offend someone or ruin someones Roleplay, you get banned.

I think there should be a lot more transparency in the administration of exploits in general. And, if not a public ban list, a summary of metrics on how many were banned and why. There are a few reasons

- The community is rather ignorant of various cheats being used. This means there are a lot of false reports clogging up support and other valid complaints are left unheard.
- In some cases some will exploit without knowing they shouldn't do it. Their buddy told them "everyone does it", they copied some guy they saw doing it and thought it was legal, etc.
- Guilds should be given knowledge how their members are acting. If your guild's reputation is hurt because of this one member, you'd want to know.
- It shows that ZOS support is taking our complaints seriously. Going into the black hole of support and getting an email that someone is being investigated doesn't give most enough feedback to know if they did the right thing. In cases where we see that same person back a week later, doing the same exploit, many feel "oh, it must be legal, they never got punished." If that's the case most of us would stop reporting, and support will be left blind anyway
- It will affect the priority of fixing certain bugs. there are some major exploits out there right now that need fixing, but because few people know about it there isn't much pressure to fix them. Getting these things aired out will force the issue to close these gaps.