Earning AP... Why do we always have the same Emp's?

Tomato · February 2016

You get inevitable detonation as a magic NB and find the 2 other factions fighting a big zerg battle. You simple cloak and tag everyone from the other 2 factions with inevitable detonation = endless AP which is how some people achieved Grand Overlord in a few months.

Cheers!

PhatGrimReaper · February 2016

so easy...... every Magblade should do it.......

Master_Kas · February 2016

Can be done with every Class . Invis swarm needed tough

r.jan_emailb16_ESO · February 2016

I wonder why we don't have more Grand Overlords if this is really so easy

PhatGrimReaper · February 2016

r.jan_emailb16_ESO wrote: »

I wonder why we don't have more Grand Overlords if this is really so easy

This

Rylana · February 2016

r.jan_emailb16_ESO wrote: »

I wonder why we don't have more Grand Overlords if this is really so easy

Only became fotm and more widely used when the Crown v Sypher AP thing happened a month or two back.

As usual it takes a youtube video to get people to do things.

Sypher · February 2016

No aoe cap on a certain ability (~_~) TAG ALL THE PEOPLE

Knootewoot · February 2016

When I see 2 enemy zergs clashing I usually pop up an oil catapult and shoot once or twice and run away. then I sit there and wait for the XP and AP behind a tree.

Rylana · February 2016

Knootewoot wrote: »

When I see 2 enemy zergs clashing I usually pop up an oil catapult and shoot once or twice and run away. then I sit there and wait for the XP and AP behind a tree.

Scattershot. Works good.

My personal tag-all-the-things is still caltrops. Just spam it everywhere and then pop a speed potion.

Galalin · February 2016

Well this explains my low PvP rank i can tell ya this... WB spam not so much AP

DK SCRUB OUT

Rylana · February 2016

Galalin wrote: »

Well this explains my low PvP rank i can tell ya this... WB spam not so much AP

DK SCRUB OUT

GET BACK ON THE CROWN, SQUIRREL

frozywozy · February 2016

Just check the top10 nightblades on the leaderboard of every end of the past 12 30days Azura/Thornblade cycles. They always have the highest AP count. Buff NB though, "cloak is poop" as I read last week.

Master_Kas · February 2016

frozywozy wrote: »

Just check the top10 nightblades on the leaderboard of every end of the past 12 30days Azura/Thornblade cycles. They always have the highest AP count. Buff NB though, "cloak is poop" as I read last week.

Cloak isn't really helping them tag alot of numbers nor damage alot of numbers either because it breaks way to much in big fights thanks to all AoE going around (Lolnado for example with its ridicilous range and caltrops which covers the ground in big fights aswell)

Probably clouding swarm which isn't even a nightblade skill.

Can be done with any class: Clouding swarm + proxy det -> continue to spam impulse/talons/sap essence/whatever. Or if stamina build: Clouding swarm + lolnado + vigor for some healing AP.

So WHY on earth are you mentioning cloak here? Just why? xD

Erondil · February 2016

Master_Kas wrote: »

frozywozy wrote: »

Just check the top10 nightblades on the leaderboard of every end of the past 12 30days Azura/Thornblade cycles. They always have the highest AP count. Buff NB though, "cloak is poop" as I read last week.

Cloak isn't really helping them tag alot of numbers nor damage alot of numbers either because it breaks way to much in big fights thanks to all AoE going around (Lolnado for example with its ridicilous range) Probably clouding swarm which isn't even a nightblade skill.

Can be done with any class: Clouding swarm + proxy det -> continue to spam impulse/talons/sap essence/whatever. Or if stamina build: Clouding swarm + lolnado.

So WHY on earth are you mentioning cloak here? Just why? xD

Because with cloak and shadow image you can pull out and not die. Not gonna work if you jump in a fight between the 2 other factions to tag *** as solo dk and try to run away lol

Also we always have the same emps because the game is dead PvP wise and barely more than 1-2 players are motivated enough to push for emp with all the borken stuff and unbearable lag. Not because the AP farm tactics arent known lol

Master_Kas · February 2016

Erondil wrote: »

Master_Kas wrote: »

frozywozy wrote: »

Just check the top10 nightblades on the leaderboard of every end of the past 12 30days Azura/Thornblade cycles. They always have the highest AP count. Buff NB though, "cloak is poop" as I read last week.

Cloak isn't really helping them tag alot of numbers nor damage alot of numbers either because it breaks way to much in big fights thanks to all AoE going around (Lolnado for example with its ridicilous range) Probably clouding swarm which isn't even a nightblade skill.

Can be done with any class: Clouding swarm + proxy det -> continue to spam impulse/talons/sap essence/whatever. Or if stamina build: Clouding swarm + lolnado.

So WHY on earth are you mentioning cloak here? Just why? xD

Because with cloak and shadow image you can pull out and not die. Not gonna work if you jump in a fight between the 2 other factions to tag *** as solo dk and try to run away lol

Also we always have the same emps because the game is dead PvP wise and barely more than 1-2 players are motivated enough to push for emp with all the borken stuff and unbearable lag. Not because the AP farm tactics arent known lol

As I read this thread it was about tagging alot of people.

Shadowy image is something you wrote and noone else. Expecting cloak alone to save you from a AoE fight is very naive which is why I commented. He didn't write cloak combined with shadowy image

But you're correct sir ^^

Erynyes · February 2016

good luck tagging other faction with caltrops and trying to stay stealth without cloak, even on a stam NB, tagging people with caltrops can turn into a magicka ressource nightmare lol, damn in combat bug

K4RMA · February 2016

Sypher wrote: »

No aoe cap on a certain ability (~_~) TAG ALL THE PEOPLE

@FENGRUSH

Jura23 · February 2016

The first part sounds like the hardest. One must accept playing horse simulator more than is pleasant.

Rylana · February 2016

Erynyes wrote: »

good luck tagging other faction with caltrops and trying to stay stealth without cloak, even on a stam NB, tagging people with caltrops can turn into a magicka ressource nightmare lol, damn in combat bug

See that tree? I am just small enough to stand behind it, and no one can see me MWA HAHAHAHAAHA

manny254 · February 2016

The actual answer to the title is the game is not really competitive. At this point most the hardcore players have gotten it, and most newer players don't really stand a chance of getting it unless they are given ticks.

On another note. I really don't understand why anyone would want emp on the main server. You would essentially be locking your self into playing at the games peak lag time, and having an emp would only make the lag worse. With the damage reduction from the IC patch I personally have not had the desire to go for it.

Even in 1.6 there reached a point where you as a singular person could not do anything due to the game mechanics and lag. Eventually you end up feeling like you are trapped in a prison. Able to survive, but unable to stop the enemy. Despite having the most power available to a single player you end up feeling helpless, and forced to watch as tidal waves of enemies sweep over you. I would imagine this patch would produce this feeling even more frequently.

Erynyes · February 2016

Rylana wrote: »

Erynyes wrote: »

good luck tagging other faction with caltrops and trying to stay stealth without cloak, even on a stam NB, tagging people with caltrops can turn into a magicka ressource nightmare lol, damn in combat bug

See that tree? I am just small enough to stand behind it, and no one can see me MWA HAHAHAHAAHA

-we got a 24 manzerg and theres another 24 manzerg right in front of us, wait, someone spotted a lone caltrop spammer behind that tree, lets zerg him dowm first, maybe that other manzerg will find other tree huggers so we won't have to fight them and feel good about 24v1 that deadly guy, after all he's probably the next emperor, better be safe!

Rylana · February 2016

Erynyes wrote: »

Rylana wrote: »

Erynyes wrote: »

good luck tagging other faction with caltrops and trying to stay stealth without cloak, even on a stam NB, tagging people with caltrops can turn into a magicka ressource nightmare lol, damn in combat bug

See that tree? I am just small enough to stand behind it, and no one can see me MWA HAHAHAHAAHA

-we got a 24 manzerg and theres another 24 manzerg right in front of us, wait, someone spotted a lone caltrop spammer behind that tree, lets zerg him dowm first, maybe that other manzerg will find other tree huggers so we won't have to fight them and feel good about 24v1 that deadly guy, after all he's probably the next emperor, better be safe!

But all they see is the other manzerg, they ignore little ole me. >_> No seriously, it happens. I could be 20 feet from the fight, behind a rock or box, and its like im not there. Tunnel visioning critcharge spamming ambushers with steel tornado are a funny lot.

Derra · February 2016

Rylana wrote: »

r.jan_emailb16_ESO wrote: »

I wonder why we don't have more Grand Overlords if this is really so easy

Only became fotm and more widely used when the Crown v Sypher AP thing happened a month or two back.

As usual it takes a youtube video to get people to do things.

Or a million posts about how broken reverb bash and spamming gapclosers is - suddenly everyone does it.

FatKidHatchets · February 2016

Learn to defend a castle. The top players SUCCESSFULLY defend keeps against overwhelming odds. You ever see how much AP you get if 24 of you wipe 100 zerg 4 times in a row on a defense? Its even better if you can do it with 12. The trick is defend and do it well.

But hell folks still can't build group builds.

IxSTALKERxI · February 2016

r.jan_emailb16_ESO wrote: »

I wonder why we don't have more Grand Overlords if this is really so easy

People don't want to waste time grinding a pvp rank in a game that isn't even playable.

Erondil wrote: »

Also we always have the same emps because the game is dead PvP wise and barely more than 1-2 players are motivated enough to push for emp with all the borken stuff and unbearable lag. Not because the AP farm tactics arent known lol

manny254 wrote: »

The actual answer to the title is the game is not really competitive. At this point most the hardcore players have gotten it, and most newer players don't really stand a chance of getting it unless they are given ticks.

Also this ^ and this ^

MountainHound · February 2016

The current emp system rewards the most active which is a really sly and slic move on ZOS' part.

Ghostbane · February 2016

manny254 wrote: »

The actual answer to the title is the game is not really competitive. At this point most the hardcore players have gotten it, and most newer players don't really stand a chance of getting it unless they are given ticks.

On another note. I really don't understand why anyone would want emp on the main server. You would essentially be locking your self into playing at the games peak lag time, and having an emp would only make the lag worse. With the damage reduction from the IC patch I personally have not had the desire to go for it.

Even in 1.6 there reached a point where you as a singular person could not do anything due to the game mechanics and lag. Eventually you end up feeling like you are trapped in a prison. Able to survive, but unable to stop the enemy. Despite having the most power available to a single player you end up feeling helpless, and forced to watch as tidal waves of enemies sweep over you. I would imagine this patch would produce this feeling even more frequently.

Depressingly poetic. And true.

Tomato · February 2016

Erynyes wrote: »

good luck tagging other faction with caltrops and trying to stay stealth without cloak, even on a stam NB, tagging people with caltrops can turn into a magicka ressource nightmare lol, damn in combat bug

That's why you use det vs caltrops