Emperorship is flawed system!

VixtrixVoodoo · January 2016

There really needs to be a limit for how long a single player can hold Emperorship. Ie: If a single player in a 7 day campaign achieves emperorship, he/she should not be able to get it again for at the very least a month. There are players on here that have deals with players in other alliances to help them hold the title! It is completely unfair to the rest of us!
This issue really needs to be addressed, it's really discouraging to know your hard work really isn't going to pay off.

imredneckson · January 2016

VixtrixVoodoo wrote: »

There really needs to be a limit for how long a single player can hold Emperorship. Ie: If a single player in a 7 day campaign achieves emperorship, he/she should not be able to get it again for at the very least a month. There are players on here that have deals with players in other alliances to help them hold the title! It is completely unfair to the rest of us!
This issue really needs to be addressed, it's really discouraging to know your hard work really isn't going to pay off.

If they put the effort into getting Emp then they should get what they worked for.

VixtrixVoodoo · January 2016

Not when it's a deal. You have players talking between each other and letting their keeps get taken or players get killed. It's not work, it's cheating the system

Forestd16b14_ESO · January 2016

imredneckson wrote: »

VixtrixVoodoo wrote: »

There really needs to be a limit for how long a single player can hold Emperorship. Ie: If a single player in a 7 day campaign achieves emperorship, he/she should not be able to get it again for at the very least a month. There are players on here that have deals with players in other alliances to help them hold the title! It is completely unfair to the rest of us!
This issue really needs to be addressed, it's really discouraging to know your hard work really isn't going to pay off.

If they put the effort into getting Emp then they should get what they worked for.

A player hasn't earned emperorship since 2 months after PC launch.

mchermie · January 2016

Prove it.

Fyaal · January 2016

Then get enough people to dethrone.

Shelgon · January 2016

I disagree with almost everything you said, I do however, agree with the emperor system being flawed. If you aren't part of a PvP guild and have everyone help you out by either not home-ing the server, or purposely not getting as much AP as you so you can stay on the top, good luck getting emp. Maybe you'll get it on Axe, but on anything populated, not a chance.

IxSTALKERxI · January 2016

VixtrixVoodoo wrote: »

There really needs to be a limit for how long a single player can hold Emperorship. Ie: If a single player in a 7 day campaign achieves emperorship, he/she should not be able to get it again for at the very least a month. There are players on here that have deals with players in other alliances to help them hold the title! It is completely unfair to the rest of us!
This issue really needs to be addressed, it's really discouraging to know your hard work really isn't going to pay off.

Which platform and server?

I'm not sure what you mean by making deals with players in other alliances to help them hold the title. Can you give more info on what exactly they are doing?

If you are good enough and have support from friends and guilds there is always a way to get emperor, even if there are people trying to abuse the system. Would be rather amusing if someone on your campaign outplayed those people and got emp.

Forestd16b14_ESO wrote: »

A player hasn't earned emperorship since 2 months after PC launch.

I disagree, I can think of many emperor pushes where the individual had to work very hard on Azura's Star and Thornblade. Even taking the inner ring on Blackwater Blade has proven to be a challenge at times for some factions during some of the cycles, with players pushing all day everyday, pug whispering and all, and still no emperors being crowned until the very last day.

found1779 · January 2016

VixtrixVoodoo wrote: »

There really needs to be a limit for how long a single player can hold Emperorship. Ie: If a single player in a 7 day campaign achieves emperorship, he/she should not be able to get it again for at the very least a month. There are players on here that have deals with players in other alliances to help them hold the title! It is completely unfair to the rest of us!
This issue really needs to be addressed, it's really discouraging to know your hard work really isn't going to pay off.

Telling me about it i was number 5 on the leaderboard and then i came acrossed red and blues farming each other to get ap i've spent day and night trying to get it just to see them cheating to get ap really made me pissed off tbh

VixtrixVoodoo · January 2016

I'm not sure why I need to "prove" it. Seems childish..I myself am not interested in Emperorship as I'm only a v6 healer atm..more for other players. Granted I did finally make it into 6th place and held it for a few days but I'm not personally interested in it until I get the appropriate level.

Regardless our guild pvps in moon-cursed ps4 server and we've had the same emperor crowned for the last 10+ campaigns. You rarely see him do any actual work for it. Just sits back and watches most the time. Our guild leader had almost caught up with him on the leader boards and when he logs on he doubles ,almost tripples his points within 2 hours max and becomes untouchable at that point.
Hell, I've been told he's even admited to having a deal with the other factions to get the points racked up when asked how the hell hes capable of it.

It's really not asking for much putting a limit on how often you can get Emperorship. Not saying they can't ever get it again. I just think its more fair if other people have a chance at it by putting a limit on there. Because if you believe it or not people are cheating the system. Lucky you if its not going on in your server and people are actually putting in legit work for it, but it DOES happen.

And don't tell me to just switch campaigns. Sure we can do that, but it doesn't fix the problem.

Recremen · January 2016

VixtrixVoodoo wrote: »

Not when it's a deal. You have players talking between each other and letting their keeps get taken or players get killed. It's not work, it's cheating the system

Working with others is a time-honored trick of diplomacy, that's still working for it. Either way, though, this is unlikely to be ea real thing. Most campaigns seem to have guilds that fiercely defend against emp pushes.

frozywozy · January 2016

http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/234636/my-thoughts-on-cyrodiil-performance-and-gameplay

Millerman34n · February 2016

No just no, delete this thread please.

JaJaLuka · February 2016

Forestd16b14_ESO wrote: »

imredneckson wrote: »

VixtrixVoodoo wrote: »

There really needs to be a limit for how long a single player can hold Emperorship. Ie: If a single player in a 7 day campaign achieves emperorship, he/she should not be able to get it again for at the very least a month. There are players on here that have deals with players in other alliances to help them hold the title! It is completely unfair to the rest of us!
This issue really needs to be addressed, it's really discouraging to know your hard work really isn't going to pay off.

If they put the effort into getting Emp then they should get what they worked for.

A player hasn't earned emperorship since 2 months after PC launch.

Sounds about right. Most guilds carry emps to the top and are petty with it too. Until they're guy is at the top of the ap leaderboard they won't push no matter what. Some have gone as far as taking keeps and everyone except their selected emp leaves the keep to gather the defence tick, which really sucks for those looking to get there without any major assistance.

FMonk · February 2016

Shelgon wrote: »

I disagree with almost everything you said, I do however, agree with the emperor system being flawed. If you aren't part of a PvP guild and have everyone help you out by either not home-ing the server, or purposely not getting as much AP as you so you can stay on the top, good luck getting emp. Maybe you'll get it on Axe, but on anything populated, not a chance.

Lowpolicy got emp on Azuras

vamp_emily · February 2016

Sounds about right. Most guilds carry emps to the top and are petty with it too. Until they're guy is at the top of the ap leaderboard they won't push no matter what. Some have gone as far as taking keeps and everyone except their selected emp leaves the keep to gather the defence tick, which really sucks for those looking to get there without any major assistance.

That is pretty sneaky. Almost sounds like we ( non guild members ) need to organize something so we have a chance to get Emp just for the achievement.

CatchMeTrolling · February 2016

vamp_emily wrote: »

Sounds about right. Most guilds carry emps to the top and are petty with it too. Until they're guy is at the top of the ap leaderboard they won't push no matter what. Some have gone as far as taking keeps and everyone except their selected emp leaves the keep to gather the defence tick, which really sucks for those looking to get there without any major assistance.

That is pretty sneaky. Almost sounds like we ( non guild members ) need to organize something so we have a chance to get Emp just for the achievement.

That's the only thing flawed about the emp system, people getting it just for the achievement. I honestly believe they should have added a certain amount of time you have to hold it in order for you to get a title (which is a joke now) or something to stop achievement chasers.

AJ_1988 · February 2016

Pvp atleast from what I've seen on a certain platform is basically just one big guild. Nearly everyone you see has a toon on each alliance and everyone is part of the same guilds. I still see a lot of emperor swapping and the spirit of pvp on the decline

God_flakes · February 2016

There are two types of emps: those that wear adult diapers, catheters and have iv's and no jobs/lives and those who have multiple people playing one account and are cheating the ap via abandoned d-ticks. It might still be something people "achieve" but everyone knows it's a joke and it's even worse when someone makes emp and is killed 1v1 in a humiliating fashion.

vamp_emily · February 2016

CatchMeTrolling wrote: »

vamp_emily wrote: »

Sounds about right. Most guilds carry emps to the top and are petty with it too. Until they're guy is at the top of the ap leaderboard they won't push no matter what. Some have gone as far as taking keeps and everyone except their selected emp leaves the keep to gather the defence tick, which really sucks for those looking to get there without any major assistance.

That is pretty sneaky. Almost sounds like we ( non guild members ) need to organize something so we have a chance to get Emp just for the achievement.

That's the only thing flawed about the emp system, people getting it just for the achievement. I honestly believe they should have added a certain amount of time you have to hold it in order for you to get a title (which is a joke now) or something to stop achievement chasers.

Well the thing is I deserve to be Empress. But since, I'm not part of the Guilds I will never get it. I am sure there are many other full time players in the position I am in.

Frawr · February 2016

No problem with emperorship itself.

Problem is with players having access to multiple campaigns and pvp being meaningless. See red vs blue.

vamp_emily · February 2016

Frawr wrote: »

No problem with emperorship itself.

Problem is with players having access to multiple campaigns and pvp being meaningless. See red vs blue.

I think with ZOS lifting the restriction on flipping to different campaigns is just going to make it worse.

I can just imagine it now, guild members will say stuff like "Come over to X alliance and help us crown Emp.". I might be wrong but I think lifting the restriction is not a good thing.

Kas · February 2016

if you're sitting at position #2, a number 1 who uses alt accounts (or friends, or people he paid) to feed AP to himself in some obscure location is really annoying. Usually he is neither part of a group nor ever seen on the map except when currently emp and giving out free achievements to enemies.

but then again, it doesn't matter too much and even a useless emp is better than an enemy one

CatchMeTrolling · February 2016

vamp_emily wrote: »

CatchMeTrolling wrote: »

vamp_emily wrote: »

Sounds about right. Most guilds carry emps to the top and are petty with it too. Until they're guy is at the top of the ap leaderboard they won't push no matter what. Some have gone as far as taking keeps and everyone except their selected emp leaves the keep to gather the defence tick, which really sucks for those looking to get there without any major assistance.

That is pretty sneaky. Almost sounds like we ( non guild members ) need to organize something so we have a chance to get Emp just for the achievement.

That's the only thing flawed about the emp system, people getting it just for the achievement. I honestly believe they should have added a certain amount of time you have to hold it in order for you to get a title (which is a joke now) or something to stop achievement chasers.

Well the thing is I deserve to be Empress. But since, I'm not part of the Guilds I will never get it. I am sure there are many other full time players in the position I am in.

I have gotten emp multiple times without guilds or running groups

vamp_emily · February 2016

CatchMeTrolling wrote: »

I have gotten emp multiple times without guilds or running groups

Maybe I am doing something wrong, If it is possible I will find away. But I am curious, do you have a job in RL? How many hours did u play a day when you got Emp?

eventide03b14a_ESO · February 2016

VixtrixVoodoo wrote: »

There really needs to be a limit for how long a single player can hold Emperorship. Ie: If a single player in a 7 day campaign achieves emperorship, he/she should not be able to get it again for at the very least a month. There are players on here that have deals with players in other alliances to help them hold the title! It is completely unfair to the rest of us!
This issue really needs to be addressed, it's really discouraging to know your hard work really isn't going to pay off.

Since when are there term limits for Emperorship? This isn't a democracy.

VixtrixVoodoo · February 2016

eventide03b14a_ESO wrote: »

Since when are there term limits for Emperorship? This isn't a democracy.

No, its a GAME...

Anywho, our emperor has had emperorship the last 20+ times. Sure fine whatever. However it has gotten to the point our entire side now gives zero"fs". He does NOTHING. Most the time IF! you see him he's just sitting there watching you do all the work. He's admitted, when asked by other players, he has deals with other factions. Now, we have two sometimes three bars worth of yellows on the server. Zero for red and blue. Yet right now, reds and blues are flipping emperorship with none of these yellows on defending or trying to get it back. Our 'emperor' still sits at the top of the leaderboard with literally 300k MORE than anyone can ever achieve..as I've said before we try but within 2 hours tops hes pulled away again with double the AP..Our server has given up. There's nothing to achieve...

Now, again I never said he (or anyone) can't claim Emperorship EVER again...but something has to be done about the AP farming..a lot of players deserve Emperorship, but when someone holds it do to cheating it's not fair. A limit to how many times you can get Emperorship in a row is just ONE idea...obviously not the best...but don't sit there and tell me cheating doesn't happen and nothing needs to change. I KNOW it's happening, I won't apologize or delete my post because you don't like the idea of *** being a bit more fair. I'm obviously not the only one to think this.

Cormore · February 2016

this is funny

CatchMeTrolling · February 2016

VixtrixVoodoo wrote: »

eventide03b14a_ESO wrote: »

Since when are there term limits for Emperorship? This isn't a democracy.

No, its a GAME...

Anywho, our emperor has had emperorship the last 20+ times. Sure fine whatever. However it has gotten to the point our entire side now gives zero"fs". He does NOTHING. Most the time IF! you see him he's just sitting there watching you do all the work. He's admitted, when asked by other players, he has deals with other factions. Now, we have two sometimes three bars worth of yellows on the server. Zero for red and blue. Yet right now, reds and blues are flipping emperorship with none of these yellows on defending or trying to get it back. Our 'emperor' still sits at the top of the leaderboard with literally 300k MORE than anyone can ever achieve..as I've said before we try but within 2 hours tops hes pulled away again with double the AP..Our server has given up. There's nothing to achieve...

Now, again I never said he (or anyone) can't claim Emperorship EVER again...but something has to be done about the AP farming..a lot of players deserve Emperorship, but when someone holds it do to cheating it's not fair. A limit to how many times you can get Emperorship in a row is just ONE idea...obviously not the best...but don't sit there and tell me cheating doesn't happen and nothing needs to change. I KNOW it's happening, I won't apologize or delete my post because you don't like the idea of *** being a bit more fair. I'm obviously not the only one to think this.

Lol people said this about me when I held emp for like 3 months so I'm not really sold

CatchMeTrolling · February 2016

vamp_emily wrote: »

CatchMeTrolling wrote: »

I have gotten emp multiple times without guilds or running groups

Maybe I am doing something wrong, If it is possible I will find away. But I am curious, do you have a job in RL? How many hours did u play a day when you got Emp?

Every time I got it i did except once and most of my free time I'll play. Though ap isn't necessarily about how much you play, that only matters against another good ap farmer.

For an example I joined azuras star recently with 16 day's left and I'm now 100k away from 10th place with 10 days to go though people had plenty of time and play everyday.

yodased · February 2016

vamp_emily wrote: »

Well the thing is I deserve to be Empress. But since, I'm not part of the Guilds I will never get it. I am sure there are many other full time players in the position I am in.

why do you deserve anything? If you deserved emperorship, you would be emp.

It's really strange thing to say you deserve something you have not achieved, through whatever means.