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ArgoCye
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Not sure how PC and XB1 are going, but on PS4 the latest patch that changed the tick rates of certain aoe abilities seems to have done nothing to better performance in Cyrodiil. The lag was severe and rendered the game all but unplayable. The worst of it was there was only about 20 - 30 players in the area at any given time - most of the group I was in left to do other things. Makes me wonder if this is even possible to fix or even improve. So like the removal of deer, this latest assault in the war on lag is proving to be ineffective.
Edited by ArgoCye on January 30, 2016 2:17AM
  • Ampnode
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    PC here, and yes... lag does seem more horrendous than it's been before; however, that's probably because I've been seeing 40-50 man groups more often running around spamming AoEs. Probably a coincidence, or the changes didn't do anything at all.
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  • D0ntevenL1ft
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    They have been working on fixing the lag non stop didn't you hear?!?....
  • Korah_Eaglecry
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    Ampnode wrote: »
    PC here, and yes... lag does seem more horrendous than it's been before; however, that's probably because I've been seeing 40-50 man groups more often running around spamming AoEs. Probably a coincidence, or the changes didn't do anything at all.

    This is pretty much what I experienced tonight. The moment when the two largest groups of EP and AD came together at Sejanus it turned into a lagfest.

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  • Wollust
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    The lag is awful. PC EU has two campaigns that are completely unplayable during primetime and a third one coming close to the level of the other two.
    But hey, we're getting a camel mount. Everything's fine.
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  • MrDerrikk
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    It was only made to nerf Templars and Skoria...
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  • EIGHTS
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    It's not only lag in Cyrodiil. It also lag in PvE map. FPS become very low in some place.

    There is no low FPS before last patch. I hope ZOS can fix it asap.
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  • Didgerion
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    Wollust wrote: »
    The lag is awful. PC EU has two campaigns that are completely unplayable during primetime and a third one coming close to the level of the other two.
    But hey, we're getting a camel mount. Everything's fine.

    What does camel have to do with the lag?

    Or do you want the guy who designed the camel to fix the PVP lag?
    Edited by Didgerion on January 30, 2016 4:19AM
  • DovresMalven
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    Didgerion wrote: »
    Wollust wrote: »
    The lag is awful. PC EU has two campaigns that are completely unplayable during primetime and a third one coming close to the level of the other two.
    But hey, we're getting a camel mount. Everything's fine.

    What does camel have to do with the lag?

    Or do you want the guy who designed the camel to fix the PVP lag?

    I think he's saying instead of paying a guy to design a camel, pay a guy to work on the lag.
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  • WalkingLegacy
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    How does something that is already at its peak for bad get any worse?
  • MissBizz
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    EIGHTS wrote: »
    It's not only lag in Cyrodiil. It also lag in PvE map. FPS become very low in some place.

    There is no low FPS before last patch. I hope ZOS can fix it asap.

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    I can confirm terrible ping changes fishing. :(
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  • Korah_Eaglecry
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    Didgerion wrote: »
    Wollust wrote: »
    The lag is awful. PC EU has two campaigns that are completely unplayable during primetime and a third one coming close to the level of the other two.
    But hey, we're getting a camel mount. Everything's fine.

    What does camel have to do with the lag?

    Or do you want the guy who designed the camel to fix the PVP lag?

    I think he's saying instead of paying a guy to design a camel, pay a guy to work on the lag.

    But they are paying a guy to fix the lag. Its questionable if replacing an art guy, that would work on more than just a camel but also quite a lot of what you see in the game, with another guy working on server stability/abilities would actually get rid of lag any faster. Its not a question of having more people on it as much as being such a complex layered issue that you can only work one layer at a time.

    And considering when it comes to profitability. The art guy is a bigger asset. Since his work can and will drive sales so that the lag guy can continue to get paid to fix the lag. So the notion that getting rid of the art guy just so lag can get fixed is just down right short sighted.
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  • Jaeysa
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    So much lag...I actually can't play the game without getting motion-sick. That and 5+ min loading screens means I'mma log for a couple days.
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  • Aquanova
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    You guys must have gotten the update we got like 3 weeks ago. That update produced the worst lag I've seen yet.
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  • DovresMalven
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    Didgerion wrote: »
    Wollust wrote: »
    The lag is awful. PC EU has two campaigns that are completely unplayable during primetime and a third one coming close to the level of the other two.
    But hey, we're getting a camel mount. Everything's fine.

    What does camel have to do with the lag?

    Or do you want the guy who designed the camel to fix the PVP lag?

    I think he's saying instead of paying a guy to design a camel, pay a guy to work on the lag.

    But they are paying a guy to fix the lag. Its questionable if replacing an art guy, that would work on more than just a camel but also quite a lot of what you see in the game, with another guy working on server stability/abilities would actually get rid of lag any faster. Its not a question of having more people on it as much as being such a complex layered issue that you can only work one layer at a time.

    And considering when it comes to profitability. The art guy is a bigger asset. Since his work can and will drive sales so that the lag guy can continue to get paid to fix the lag. So the notion that getting rid of the art guy just so lag can get fixed is just down right short sighted.

    im not saying its sound business advise, but the sarcasm is an important sentiment that describes how fed up people are.
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  • Jaeysa
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    Aquanova wrote: »
    You guys must have gotten the update we got like 3 weeks ago. That update produced the worst lag I've seen yet.

    I haven't had lag/loading screens this bad since for a while, just started this morning.
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  • ArgoCye
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    Sigh ...
  • Sausage
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    I think its improving, I played last night during prime-time and it wasnt even nearly as bad, but its still bad enough.
    Edited by Sausage on January 30, 2016 10:31AM
  • Rune_Relic
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    Perhaps we need to embrace, worship and sacrifice to this LAG.
    Maybe it just needs appeasement of some kind ?


    ....looks around for something to sacrifice.
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  • WillhelmBlack
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    If you were talking about last night, it was Zerg Friday.

    I haven't seen any change. It's not better or worse. Who cares? We have a Camel mount and some single player thieving to do soon!
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  • Xendyn
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    Rune_Relic wrote: »
    Perhaps we need to embrace, worship and sacrifice to this LAG.
    Maybe it just needs appeasement of some kind ?


    ....looks around for something to sacrifice.

    *offers up whoever that guy is that's supposedly working day and night on it*

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  • ArgoCye
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    Unplayable ... again.
  • Thornen
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    Its horrible and on top of that the random load screens are worse...just got one sitting on a *** siege weapon ffs.
  • Mac10murda
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    I like when you have have someone in area chat complaining about lag as he is recruiting people into his 2nd 20 man group
  • Thornen
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    Mac10murda wrote: »
    I like when you have have someone in area chat complaining about lag as he is recruiting people into his 2nd 20 man group

    Yeh cause the obvious fix to Cyrodiil lag is just to make it a max 12 players per faction per campaign. Unfortunately I don't see this being fixed ever either due to zos being inept/lazy/cheap or game engine being so utterly screwed it would be easier to start over.

    When you come from a game like GW2 and being able to experience 3 way 100 player per side zerg pvp without your ping moving an inch you know the issue isn't the amount of players in 1 spot.
    Edited by Thornen on January 31, 2016 2:11AM
  • ArgoCye
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    It's definitely worse since last patch on PS4. At least before, as bad as it was, there really needed to be say 40-plus people on screen for things to stutter and occassionally crash. Now there's less than 20 and it's impossible to use abilities or swap weapons with any reliability.

    Given there is new content coming up, I have no faith that this is going to improve any time soon as ZOS's attention will be elsewhere. One wonders how long players will continue to put up with this.
  • Necrelios
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    MissBizz wrote: »
    EIGHTS wrote: »
    It's not only lag in Cyrodiil. It also lag in PvE map. FPS become very low in some place.

    There is no low FPS before last patch. I hope ZOS can fix it asap.

    I had horrendous ping while FISHING last night.

    I can confirm terrible ping changes fishing. :(

    Same here. I also noticed some Mud Crabs lag-hoping around in Wrothgar, which tells me it could something going on server side. The sever population is pretty high, maybe they are exceeding load capacity. I noticed my ping would randomly double or triple at times and then go back to normal, which is unusual behavior for me.
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  • Malmai
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    ArgoCye wrote: »
    Not sure how PC and XB1 are going, but on PS4 the latest patch that changed the tick rates of certain aoe abilities seems to have done nothing to better performance in Cyrodiil. The lag was severe and rendered the game all but unplayable. The worst of it was there was only about 20 - 30 players in the area at any given time - most of the group I was in left to do other things. Makes me wonder if this is even possible to fix or even improve. So like the removal of deer, this latest assault in the war on lag is proving to be ineffective.

    I already saw this SUB to B2P to F2P stuff, 99% Lag and Fps will not get fixed they are only stretching the life of the game by throwing in DLC's and Crown Store items...
  • imredneckson
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    ZOS is too preoccupied with adding items into the crown store and charging outrageous prices for said items (2k for a costume, 4k for the next DLC with the smallest zone I've seen in game) to even consider focusing on fixing the lag in Cyrodiil.
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  • Julianos
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    Truth: There is no lag/performance fix for 500vs500
    Solution: small scale pvp
    Edited by Julianos on January 31, 2016 12:12PM
  • Refuse2GrowUp
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    Rune_Relic wrote: »
    Perhaps we need to embrace, worship and sacrifice to this LAG.
    Maybe it just needs appeasement of some kind ?

    ....looks around for something to sacrifice.

    When did it become hard to find virgins in an MMO?! Pretty sure we can appease both RNGesus and this Lord of Lag with a virgin sacrifice
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