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Hundings Rage (crafted items in general) need a nerf
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Kelleton✭✭✭
Right me asking for it to be harder to get his makes me want it all to be free? Logicgw2only1b14_ESO wrote: »DEAR ZENIMAX
Please can you add all sets in the game PVE/PVP/Crafted /Dailes ect into Crown store?
Its to hard to play the game you have set and I want it all now and I want all mine to be the best please please can you do this
@op is this what you want to happen as everything your looking for and going around in circles and adding pages and pages is basically sounding like.
Oh yea Zeni please add in Crown Bought Gold Keys for those of us that dont wish to do any pve or group and be social as well.
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Autolycus✭✭✭✭✭
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I'm with you on this one. I have for something like 5 straight pages been making the argument that it's contingent upon build. Hundings is BiS for a wide variety of classes, but what they have in common is that they are all purely physical builds.
My example of where Sheer Venom is hands-down a better option than Hundings is with a stamina NB. I want to go further into detail on this one, because I've seen a lot of people talking about how bowblades are weak and irrelevant now, and frankly I run with a bowblade that does more damage than any overload sorc I've run with. Granted, they are both fantastic in terms of dps, but when it comes down to the bottom line, I've seen his numbers get higher than overload's, in some cases at least (it's not like I followed them around to every form of content in the game). I've seen sheer venom bowblade pull off around 40k+ on crematorial guards in wgt, 50k on blood spawn, and I've seen him get stealth camo hunter/flawless/acid spray sneak crits for 300k (aoe).
For a stamina nb using a bow, there are two options: 1. go all physical, taking the morphs of poison arrow and snipe (aka venom arrow and focused aim) and put points into Mighty and Precise Strikes, or 2. take poison injection and lethal arrow, spec all points into thaumaturge (increased poison damage) and elfborn (increase spell crit, which is directly applicable and proven to be more effective for lethal arrow). There are other differences as well, but these are the key points.
This is a prime example of how looking at two tooltips can mean virtually nothing. Putting 100 points into thaumaturge, 66 in elfborn and 1 in spell penetration (much like a magicka NB would) buffs the sheer venom 5set proc substantially, adding an additional 300 damage per second (or 1500dps) to the dot, without any other modifiers. Factor in everything else - weapon damage, crit%, crit damage modifiers, max stamina, etc. - and it does (proven) amount to more damage than a bowblade going all physical will.
This isn't my build, or I'd just post the numbers and pictures to support it. Regardless, I've seen it firsthand, I was present during the testing, and I helped theorycraft this for his build. I mean he did actually come to me and ask me about it, despite it being his build. All I'm getting at is that it's credible; it's easy to discredit someone without a screenshot, but doesn't make it less true.
Edit: I misquoted. The increase of 300dps to the Sheer Venom dot is from thaumaturge alone. It does not factor in the penetration or crit damage. Point being that doing this correctly can get that sheer venom dot to tick for upwards of 1800-2k per second.Edited by Autolycus on January 27, 2016 6:41PM0 -
gw2only1b14_ESO✭✭✭
Right me asking for it to be harder to get his makes me want it all to be free? Logicgw2only1b14_ESO wrote: »DEAR ZENIMAX
Please can you add all sets in the game PVE/PVP/Crafted /Dailes ect into Crown store?
Its to hard to play the game you have set and I want it all now and I want all mine to be the best please please can you do this
@op is this what you want to happen as everything your looking for and going around in circles and adding pages and pages is basically sounding like.
Oh yea Zeni please add in Crown Bought Gold Keys for those of us that dont wish to do any pve or group and be social as well.
In your world and thru the thread its actually what your logic is sounding like( as there will be no point in doing either to obtain any)0 -
Sharee✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭I concede that point I replied too quickly. But yes 5 peice bonus is still overvalue
Consider this:
Essence thief replaces two crit bonuses with a stamina bonus and weapon damage bonus. The weapon damage bonus is 129, the stamina bonus has similar effect as 100 weapon damage would. That is 229 permanent weapon damage compared to the hunding's 300 - only 70 less.
For those 70, you get a 15% chance on light attack(which you should weave with every skill, so once a second) to increase your weapon damage by 12% for 10 seconds. As you said, 12% is less than it may seem because of stacking, but it most likely is more than 70.
Since the buff lasts 10 seconds, and you are ideally doing ~10 attacks in those 10 seconds, there is a very good chance the buff will be reapplied before it expires(80% chance if my math is correct). That alone should be enough to blow hunding's rage out of the water.
On top of that, you will heal both your health and stamina pools for a significant amount everytime it procs. I think that's a very good deal, getting all that for the cost of 70 weapon damage and 10% crit chance(which may be situationally useless even)0 -
strikeback1247✭✭✭✭✭
✭A good set is fine but you shouldn't get bis without having to do either pvp or pve
Are you telling me that you have a way to get full legendary bis gear without doing pve or pvp then?! Teach me master!
Before you say "you can just buy all the materials with gold and craft your gear" please explain to me how you can get enough gold without doing pve or pvp? I call hax zos pls ban :^)P.A.W.S. - Positively Against Wild Sasquatches - NO TO BIGFOOT!2 -
Autolycus✭✭✭✭✭
✭I concede that point I replied too quickly. But yes 5 peice bonus is still overvalue
Consider this:
Essence thief replaces two crit bonuses with a stamina bonus and weapon damage bonus. The weapon damage bonus is 129, the stamina bonus has similar effect as 100 weapon damage would. That is 229 permanent weapon damage compared to the hunding's 300 - only 70 less.
For those 70, you get a 15% chance on light attack(which you should weave with every skill, so once a second) to increase your weapon damage by 12% for 10 seconds. As you said, 12% is less than it may seem because of stacking, but it most likely is more than 70.
Since the buff lasts 10 seconds, and you are ideally doing ~10 attacks in those 10 seconds, there is a very good chance the buff will be reapplied before it expires(80% chance if my math is correct). That alone should be enough to blow hunding's rage out of the water.
On top of that, you will heal both your health and stamina pools for a significant amount everytime it procs. I think that's a very good deal, getting all that for the cost of 70 weapon damage and 10% crit chance(which may be situationally useless even)
Just wanted to support this portion of your statement ^
I'll use my stam sorc as an example. Without Kena, and only giving myself Major Brutality, I will reach 3857 weapon damage in my current build. Again, no other modifiers. Add 12% to that:
0.12 * 3857 = 462.84 increased weapon damage for 10 seconds. What were we comparing this to? 70 weapon damage?0 -
Kelleton✭✭✭strikeback1247 wrote: »A good set is fine but you shouldn't get bis without having to do either pvp or pve
Are you telling me that you have a way to get full legendary bis gear without doing pve or pvp then?! Teach me master!
Before you say "you can just buy all the materials with gold and craft your gear" please explain to me how you can get enough gold without doing pve or pvp? I call hax zos pls ban :^)
You can get bis gear running around naked in orsinium avoiding mobs or have mats saved up from before
I shouldnt have bis gear today because of gameplay done 3 patches ago
BTW money is a non issue for a crafter
http://imgur.com/c5OtFPQ
all made from craftingEdited by Kelleton on January 27, 2016 7:14PM0 -
Cuyler✭✭✭✭✭
✭OPs got a point. All BiS crafted sets should require max traits. It makes zero sense to have a Bis set at 6 traits and a lesser set requiring 9 traits. Both juilianos and bindings (or whatever is BiS) should be the current max traits.
But to make all dropped sets BiS. NO. Crafting needs to carry importance too. Even with a crafted set you need to grind monster sets and jewelry.
You don't have to grind monster sets soon. BiS should not be something you get instantly the moment you hit v16 bad game design
As someone pointed out to you earlier one doesn't simply get handed a BiS set instantly at v16. It requires research. Yes, the current system is bass-akwards but nullifying crafting is not the solution. Also if you think you'll be purchasing monster sets with ease from the vendor you will be sorely disappointed. They will be very expensive and the chance of getting the exact set, weight and trait will be an rng nightmare of its own. Unless you're a hardcore pvper consistently going AP or hardcore grinding for gold it will more than likely be easier to just do the dungeons for them.
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Briarhearth procs in less then one second on my stamina DK, and adds up even on sustain dps and not just burst. It also gives me higher crit stats, witch again, scale with the proc dmg. All monster sets are not craftable and bind on pickup. This drops in every veteran dungeon.Why is the most powerful stam dps set in the game a crafted item rather than a dungeon/raid drop.
Look at the alternatives:
Sheer venom - lose 1376 crit; lose 39 weapon damage - gain a 1204 dps proc
Briarheart- lose 297 permanent weapon damage - gain proc on 10% of critical hits 152 weapon damage. + heal guaranteed downtime due to cooldown.
Essence Theif - lose 1376 crit, ; lose 168 weapon damage; gain proc off 15% of light attacks to gain 12% damage (sounds like a lot but it isn't due to buff stacking issues)
A set that takes 0 effort to obtain and allows you to set the traits 100% to your liking, beats out sets that take 100s of hours to obtain maybe 1000s due to RNG.
There is no risk vs reward here crafted items should not be best in slot.
But other then that, I agree that some drop sets are not good, but thats also with craftable sets also. Many craft sets are useless too, so instead of screaming for nerf, pls scream for buffs instead. Buff BOTH craft set (the useless one) and drop sets.PC, EU server, Ebonheart Pact
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Kelleton✭✭✭
2 weeks of research 2 years ago at level 10 for bis today...no issue with that?OPs got a point. All BiS crafted sets should require max traits. It makes zero sense to have a Bis set at 6 traits and a lesser set requiring 9 traits. Both juilianos and bindings (or whatever is BiS) should be the current max traits.
But to make all dropped sets BiS. NO. Crafting needs to carry importance too. Even with a crafted set you need to grind monster sets and jewelry.
You don't have to grind monster sets soon. BiS should not be something you get instantly the moment you hit v16 bad game design
As someone pointed out to you earlier one doesn't simply get handed a BiS set instantly at v16. It requires research. Yes, the current system is bass-akwards but nullifying crafting is not the solution. Also if you think you'll be purchasing monster sets with ease from the vendor you will be sorely disappointed. They will be very expensive and the chance of getting the exact set, weight and trait will be an rng nightmare of its own. Unless you're a hardcore pvper consistently going AP or hardcore grinding for gold it will more than likely be easier to just do the dungeons for them.
Changing one set doesn't nullify crafting it just makes more options viable
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Khaos_Bane✭✭✭✭✭
✭But here, on the other hand. we see crying about crafted sets are "too easy to obtain and too op" only because the person is too lazy to invest time and effort to research traits.
Sorry I have all traits and styles already. Most people do...which is why it takes 0 effort to get hundings.
Hundings gives massive amounts of crit and weapon damage. Hundings gives more weapon damage than the end game weapon damage set (sheer venom) while also giving absurd amounts of crit.
Right, so the tons of time and money spent investing in crafting should be minimized now. I hope ZoS completely ignores you.
Edited by Khaos_Bane on January 27, 2016 7:01PM2 -
DEATHquidox✭✭✭Why is the most powerful stam dps set in the game a crafted item rather than a dungeon/raid drop.
Look at the alternatives:
Sheer venom - lose 1376 crit; lose 39 weapon damage - gain a 1204 dps proc
Briarheart- lose 297 permanent weapon damage - gain proc on 10% of critical hits 152 weapon damage. + heal guaranteed downtime due to cooldown.
Essence Theif - lose 1376 crit, ; lose 168 weapon damage; gain proc off 15% of light attacks to gain 12% damage (sounds like a lot but it isn't due to buff stacking issues)
A set that takes 0 effort to obtain and allows you to set the traits 100% to your liking, beats out sets that take 100s of hours to obtain maybe 1000s due to RNG.
There is no risk vs reward here crafted items should not be best in slot.
As a sorc mainly i dont like crafting and nor do i care for it. But i kinda have to craft. It takes a long time to get ur crafting traits to 6 to craft julianos honestly. Its worth it being the best. And its not the best for every build but its the best damage set. But even with that, if someone wants pure damage then they go full hundings if someone wants damage with survival they get another set. Grinding ur brains out for the 300+ sets in the game for a build isnt fun. This is a entirely different game from other mmos and id like it to stay that way1 -
Khaos_Bane✭✭✭✭✭
✭DEATHquidox wrote: »Why is the most powerful stam dps set in the game a crafted item rather than a dungeon/raid drop.
Look at the alternatives:
Sheer venom - lose 1376 crit; lose 39 weapon damage - gain a 1204 dps proc
Briarheart- lose 297 permanent weapon damage - gain proc on 10% of critical hits 152 weapon damage. + heal guaranteed downtime due to cooldown.
Essence Theif - lose 1376 crit, ; lose 168 weapon damage; gain proc off 15% of light attacks to gain 12% damage (sounds like a lot but it isn't due to buff stacking issues)
A set that takes 0 effort to obtain and allows you to set the traits 100% to your liking, beats out sets that take 100s of hours to obtain maybe 1000s due to RNG.
There is no risk vs reward here crafted items should not be best in slot.
Grinding ur brains out for the 300+ sets in the game for a build isnt fun. This is a entirely different game from other mmos and id like it to stay that way
Exactly, and so far ZoS gets this.
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Kelleton✭✭✭OrphanHelgen wrote: »
Briarhearth procs in less then one second on my stamina DK, and adds up even on sustain dps and not just burst. It also gives me higher crit stats, witch again, scale with the proc dmg. All monster sets are not craftable and bind on pickup. This drops in every veteran dungeon.Why is the most powerful stam dps set in the game a crafted item rather than a dungeon/raid drop.
Look at the alternatives:
Sheer venom - lose 1376 crit; lose 39 weapon damage - gain a 1204 dps proc
Briarheart- lose 297 permanent weapon damage - gain proc on 10% of critical hits 152 weapon damage. + heal guaranteed downtime due to cooldown.
Essence Theif - lose 1376 crit, ; lose 168 weapon damage; gain proc off 15% of light attacks to gain 12% damage (sounds like a lot but it isn't due to buff stacking issues)
A set that takes 0 effort to obtain and allows you to set the traits 100% to your liking, beats out sets that take 100s of hours to obtain maybe 1000s due to RNG.
There is no risk vs reward here crafted items should not be best in slot.
But other then that, I agree that some drop sets are not good, but thats also with craftable sets also. Many craft sets are useless too, so instead of screaming for nerf, pls scream for buffs instead. Buff BOTH craft set (the useless one) and drop sets.
Briarheart is its closest competitor but is still a dps loss. You can check out Deltia's guide regarding it.0 -
Kelleton✭✭✭Khaos_Bane wrote: »DEATHquidox wrote: »Why is the most powerful stam dps set in the game a crafted item rather than a dungeon/raid drop.
Look at the alternatives:
Sheer venom - lose 1376 crit; lose 39 weapon damage - gain a 1204 dps proc
Briarheart- lose 297 permanent weapon damage - gain proc on 10% of critical hits 152 weapon damage. + heal guaranteed downtime due to cooldown.
Essence Theif - lose 1376 crit, ; lose 168 weapon damage; gain proc off 15% of light attacks to gain 12% damage (sounds like a lot but it isn't due to buff stacking issues)
A set that takes 0 effort to obtain and allows you to set the traits 100% to your liking, beats out sets that take 100s of hours to obtain maybe 1000s due to RNG.
There is no risk vs reward here crafted items should not be best in slot.
Grinding ur brains out for the 300+ sets in the game for a build isnt fun. This is a entirely different game from other mmos and id like it to stay that way
Exactly, and so far ZoS gets this.
Which is fine..but hundings is overvalued. There are a lot of good crafting sets..but hundings is still too strong to be a crafted set.0 -
Sharee✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭2 weeks of research 2 years ago at level 10 for bis today...no issue with that?
Its no issue because it is not bis. It is just one of many possible options.
Heck even Powerful Assault basically matches hunding in weapon damage as long as you cast vigor once every 15 seconds(which you do anyway), and it boosts everyone around you as a bonus.0 -
HighT3chR3dn3ck✭✭✭You must be out of your GD mind. The most powerful armor sets should ALWAYS be craftable in ANY MMO. You're talking close to 9 months of research just to finish off 9 trats of one type of armor set. It is the most difficult to get.2
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HighT3chR3dn3ck wrote: »You must be out of your GD mind. The most powerful armor sets should ALWAYS be craftable in ANY MMO. You're talking close to 9 months of research just to finish off 9 trats of one type of armor set. It is the most difficult to get.
Yep I think he is or a bit *** but yea
Edited by treborrealb14_ESO on January 27, 2016 7:21PM0 -
Why is the most powerful stam dps set in the game a crafted item rather than a dungeon/raid drop.
Look at the alternatives:
Sheer venom - lose 1376 crit; lose 39 weapon damage - gain a 1204 dps proc
Briarheart- lose 297 permanent weapon damage - gain proc on 10% of critical hits 152 weapon damage. + heal guaranteed downtime due to cooldown.
Essence Theif - lose 1376 crit, ; lose 168 weapon damage; gain proc off 15% of light attacks to gain 12% damage (sounds like a lot but it isn't due to buff stacking issues)
A set that takes 0 effort to obtain and allows you to set the traits 100% to your liking, beats out sets that take 100s of hours to obtain maybe 1000s due to RNG.
There is no risk vs reward here crafted items should not be best in slot.
Actually 1 thing that Zeni has remained true on from before game launch and all the media blitz is that crafted sets will matter and be on par if not better then some other sets in game.
So was this a case of not getting all the info before game purchase?1 -
strikeback1247✭✭✭✭✭
✭strikeback1247 wrote: »A good set is fine but you shouldn't get bis without having to do either pvp or pve
Are you telling me that you have a way to get full legendary bis gear without doing pve or pvp then?! Teach me master!
Before you say "you can just buy all the materials with gold and craft your gear" please explain to me how you can get enough gold without doing pve or pvp? I call hax zos pls ban :^)
You can get bis gear running around naked in orsinium avoiding mobs or have mats saved up from before
I shouldnt have bis gear today because of gameplay done 3 patches ago
BTW money is a non issue for a crafter
http://imgur.com/c5OtFPQ
all made from crafting
So you're telling me that you're willing to level all your crafting skill trees by just farming mats (deconning dropped items wpuld require pve
) and then farm mats for 9-10 gear pieces, farm legendary mats for 9-10 gear pieces AND buy jewelry with gold? All without touching a single mob? That must require some dedication. I would be *** impressed. You could also... You know... Use the gold you made while levelling and pve'ing to buy mats and such?
By the way, could you show me where to craft briarheart and how to craft the jewelry? I must have missed the location and that jewelry crafting was added.
Also, 3 patches was 3 weeks ago lol. If you mean big updates (DLC) why shouldn't my hard work from a while ago matter? It is a big turnoff for people if everything they have done is made insignificant every three months.
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Khaos_Bane✭✭✭✭✭
✭Khaos_Bane wrote: »DEATHquidox wrote: »Why is the most powerful stam dps set in the game a crafted item rather than a dungeon/raid drop.
Look at the alternatives:
Sheer venom - lose 1376 crit; lose 39 weapon damage - gain a 1204 dps proc
Briarheart- lose 297 permanent weapon damage - gain proc on 10% of critical hits 152 weapon damage. + heal guaranteed downtime due to cooldown.
Essence Theif - lose 1376 crit, ; lose 168 weapon damage; gain proc off 15% of light attacks to gain 12% damage (sounds like a lot but it isn't due to buff stacking issues)
A set that takes 0 effort to obtain and allows you to set the traits 100% to your liking, beats out sets that take 100s of hours to obtain maybe 1000s due to RNG.
There is no risk vs reward here crafted items should not be best in slot.
Grinding ur brains out for the 300+ sets in the game for a build isnt fun. This is a entirely different game from other mmos and id like it to stay that way
Exactly, and so far ZoS gets this.
Which is fine..but hundings is overvalued. There are a lot of good crafting sets..but hundings is still too strong to be a crafted set.
I disagree with you that it's too strong. Maybe you can argue it should be a 9 trait set.
I feel that there should be even more to the crafting system. As in, there should be material to enhance crafted sets, and these tradeable materials would be dropped in different types of content.
The RNG in this game is absolutely ridiculous and it needs to stop completely.
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Khaos_Bane wrote: »Khaos_Bane wrote: »DEATHquidox wrote: »Why is the most powerful stam dps set in the game a crafted item rather than a dungeon/raid drop.
Look at the alternatives:
Sheer venom - lose 1376 crit; lose 39 weapon damage - gain a 1204 dps proc
Briarheart- lose 297 permanent weapon damage - gain proc on 10% of critical hits 152 weapon damage. + heal guaranteed downtime due to cooldown.
Essence Theif - lose 1376 crit, ; lose 168 weapon damage; gain proc off 15% of light attacks to gain 12% damage (sounds like a lot but it isn't due to buff stacking issues)
A set that takes 0 effort to obtain and allows you to set the traits 100% to your liking, beats out sets that take 100s of hours to obtain maybe 1000s due to RNG.
There is no risk vs reward here crafted items should not be best in slot.
Grinding ur brains out for the 300+ sets in the game for a build isnt fun. This is a entirely different game from other mmos and id like it to stay that way
Exactly, and so far ZoS gets this.
Which is fine..but hundings is overvalued. There are a lot of good crafting sets..but hundings is still too strong to be a crafted set.
I disagree with you that it's too strong. Maybe you can argue it should be a 9 trait set.
I feel that there should be even more to the crafting system. As in, there should be material to enhance crafted sets, and these tradeable materials would be dropped in different types of content.
The RNG in this game is absolutely ridiculous and it needs to stop completely.
Hey add rng buff to subbers or heck lets add that to crown store It works well in My Korean games and there Gear matters even more0 -
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✭Well, I'm kinda tired of this thread. I'm pretty sure this discussion was over 7 pages ago.
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Kelleton✭✭✭so I guess everyone wants everything handed to them and want all gear dropped in dungeons useless, now that monster helms are purchasable what is the carrot for a dungeon?
Despite my initial impression to this post, I'm going to pull it apart anyway. For future reference, starting your comments with generalizations is a surefire way to get people to ignore you, not support you.
What exactly makes you think that dungeon gear is useless? I know plenty of people who are using dungeon dropped gear, i.e. bow nightblades with sheer venom, virtually every meta for healing demands spell power cure, and NB tanking in pvp or pve has at least one very viable build with leeching. I have other examples, but I don't think it's necessary to list them. Point is, I fail to see how having the option to use something like hundings or julianos makes all others obsolete.
The point is that one of, if not the, best set in the game is fairly easy to achieve. Outside of the Vr16 requirements.
I love crafting, I'm a master crafter, and Eso has done an amazing job creating a robust and interesting crafting system, but hunding's and Julianos are too strong, too reliable and too easy to obtain.
In my opinion they need to either push the trait requirement, nerf it slightly or buff some other crafted sets and some dropped ones at the same time.
Whether it is the best set in game or not is subjective. It sacrifices two set bonus slots for a mediocre increase in critical rating. Critical hits can be severely weakened by impenetrable and resistant, and don't work at all on shields while everyone and their dog is spamming shields in cyrodiil.
The set may be best for some players, depending on their preferred gameplay style, but it certainly is not universally best in all scenarios.
There is not, and it can't be, a more reliable set than hunding's, +300 weapn damage is pretty straightforward. So Zos chose to add sets wich are better on some niche situations. Briar is good if you have enough aoes to proc it and if you need more sustain, shield breaker is great for pvp if you are having troubles with magicka chars/sorcs, Para bellum, hunter's, etc, etc. Wich is in my opinion the right call by Zos, you can't overlap the same set but with better stats, there would be no choices then right?
What happens with hunding's is that it's simply too strong. And can be objectively measured by the raw amount of end game players that use it most of th time. Right hunding's might not be the best for pvp, crit sucks, but is good enough.
The thing is reliable and easy to get sets should be good (if not great) for most scenarios, that's the point, but never the best, and hunding's fall in that spot too often. It renders itemization diversity and makes harder to get sets grind fairly futile, if not for the giggles.
Tldr; Hunding's is the best in too many scenarios while being only -great- (at the very least) in some others and at the same time is pretty easy to obtain. Too reliable for being that strong.
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✭strikeback1247 wrote: »A good set is fine but you shouldn't get bis without having to do either pvp or pve
Are you telling me that you have a way to get full legendary bis gear without doing pve or pvp then?! Teach me master!
Before you say "you can just buy all the materials with gold and craft your gear" please explain to me how you can get enough gold without doing pve or pvp? I call hax zos pls ban :^)
You can get bis gear running around naked in orsinium avoiding mobs or have mats saved up from before
I shouldnt have bis gear today because of gameplay done 3 patches ago
BTW money is a non issue for a crafter
http://imgur.com/c5OtFPQ
all made from crafting
somethign is wrong here.
Everyone can craft gear is what you said, then everyone is crafter, then everyone would have this kind of money.
Funny fact: i doubt many have^^0 -
BlackEar✭✭✭✭✭Yes, nerf it.
Dungeon/raid drops should be better. It is no fun crafting all the best gear
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✭strikeback1247 wrote: »A good set is fine but you shouldn't get bis without having to do either pvp or pve
Are you telling me that you have a way to get full legendary bis gear without doing pve or pvp then?! Teach me master!
Before you say "you can just buy all the materials with gold and craft your gear" please explain to me how you can get enough gold without doing pve or pvp? I call hax zos pls ban :^)
You can get bis gear running around naked in orsinium avoiding mobs or have mats saved up from before
I shouldnt have bis gear today because of gameplay done 3 patches ago
BTW money is a non issue for a crafter
http://imgur.com/c5OtFPQ
all made from crafting
somethign is wrong here.
Everyone can craft gear is what you said, then everyone is crafter, then everyone would have this kind of money.
Funny fact: i doubt many have^^
He's referring to doing writs and selling kutas he gets from the rewards, which is incredibly lucrative. This is what he spends all of his time doing instead of actually testing his claims.0
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