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Hundings Rage (crafted items in general) need a nerf
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Sharee✭✭✭✭✭
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The point would be to obtain gear that supplements the crafted gear to create the final template. Just like it is right now, really.
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Kelleton✭✭✭gw2only1b14_ESO wrote: »gw2only1b14_ESO wrote: »TheDarkShadow wrote: »Idk why this thread is still going. There is no one "right" or "wrong" here. Everyone have their favour play style, casual, pvp, raiding... But as I said this game target a different market. It focus on the casual. So no matter how much time you waste crying here, as long as the major player base disagree with you, ZoS will listen to the bigger group. So if this system does not satisfy your "elite" ego, go back to WoW.
The thread is still going because a lot of people have good information to share. I think we can all agree that the OP is the only reason to avoid this thread. Just put him on ignore like I did, and let's continue to discuss gear combinations. I personally have thoroughly enjoyed seeing the combinations of dropped sets and crafted sets that people have put together.
BiS or not, it's still interesting to see other builds and learn from them.
Thanks did not know there was an ignore feature..... Will be using this in the future with all close minded posters ;-)
I still want a reason for his QQ when he can be cookie cutter too.
But hes just a Kaka stirrer like many like to be
his best former post
http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/194372/came-back-for-1-day-remembered-why-i-left#latest
former post very valid, nirn and maces were broken...what is your point?
My point was post 2 pages back and Nirn still used and same with Maul/mace they havent changed
did you play the game 1 year ago? Nirn on armor and duel weild maces were fixed a while back...nirn on armor gave you ridiculous spell resistance and duel wield maces allowed 100% armor pen.
Fail attempt at ad hominemEdited by Kelleton on January 27, 2016 4:49PM0 -
Messy1✭✭✭✭✭
✭The more I think about this post the more I rage, but here's what I have:
1) Hunding's Rage does not take "zero effort" to craft, you have to spend days and days, researching traits to get to 6 traits for at least 5 pieces, then you have to gather crafting materials, which is less hard, but still a part of the process, then you need tempers to make it legendary if you want it to be that. If you put in the time and EFFORT to be able to craft Hunding's then it becomes a great benefit and you can charge gold to other players for you to craft it for them.
2) I take great pride as a crafter that I have spent hundreds of hours to be able to craft every piece of weapon in armor in 9 traits and every motif style . . . OP do you really think this takes "zero effort?"
3) Crafting in this game is awesome because of the set bonuses and it makes it worthwhile to be a crafter for that reason, if crafted sets are nerfed too much (and some already have been) then it would give less incentive to craft. It's very hard to jump into the crafting business, you're looking at maybe 3 months, but probably longer to be able to craft at the highest level so how's that for "zero effort."5 -
ral✭✭✭*** with a lot of time trying to force everyone to PVE grind and farming gears. I don't want to waste my time trying to get gears everytime I log into this game. So no. *** off with the nerf.0 -
gw2only1b14_ESO✭✭✭gw2only1b14_ESO wrote: »gw2only1b14_ESO wrote: »TheDarkShadow wrote: »Idk why this thread is still going. There is no one "right" or "wrong" here. Everyone have their favour play style, casual, pvp, raiding... But as I said this game target a different market. It focus on the casual. So no matter how much time you waste crying here, as long as the major player base disagree with you, ZoS will listen to the bigger group. So if this system does not satisfy your "elite" ego, go back to WoW.
The thread is still going because a lot of people have good information to share. I think we can all agree that the OP is the only reason to avoid this thread. Just put him on ignore like I did, and let's continue to discuss gear combinations. I personally have thoroughly enjoyed seeing the combinations of dropped sets and crafted sets that people have put together.
BiS or not, it's still interesting to see other builds and learn from them.
Thanks did not know there was an ignore feature..... Will be using this in the future with all close minded posters ;-)
I still want a reason for his QQ when he can be cookie cutter too.
But hes just a Kaka stirrer like many like to be
his best former post
http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/194372/came-back-for-1-day-remembered-why-i-left#latest
former post very valid, nirn and maces were broken...what is your point?
My point was post 2 pages back and Nirn still used and same with Maul/mace they havent changed
did you play the game 1 year ago? Nirn on armor and duel weild maces were fixed a while back...nirn on armor gave you ridiculous spell resistance and duel wield maces allowed 100% armor pen.
Fail attempt at ad hominem
Ive played back even before release But dont steer from the question posed on gear that you can wear and make and get like anyone else.
In fact as other mentioned for you Daily (Orsilum gear) as well as this crafted set is your best option atm.
And from 14 pages of replies I think comunity sees that too .0 -
Kelleton✭✭✭gw2only1b14_ESO wrote: »gw2only1b14_ESO wrote: »gw2only1b14_ESO wrote: »TheDarkShadow wrote: »Idk why this thread is still going. There is no one "right" or "wrong" here. Everyone have their favour play style, casual, pvp, raiding... But as I said this game target a different market. It focus on the casual. So no matter how much time you waste crying here, as long as the major player base disagree with you, ZoS will listen to the bigger group. So if this system does not satisfy your "elite" ego, go back to WoW.
The thread is still going because a lot of people have good information to share. I think we can all agree that the OP is the only reason to avoid this thread. Just put him on ignore like I did, and let's continue to discuss gear combinations. I personally have thoroughly enjoyed seeing the combinations of dropped sets and crafted sets that people have put together.
BiS or not, it's still interesting to see other builds and learn from them.
Thanks did not know there was an ignore feature..... Will be using this in the future with all close minded posters ;-)
I still want a reason for his QQ when he can be cookie cutter too.
But hes just a Kaka stirrer like many like to be
his best former post
http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/194372/came-back-for-1-day-remembered-why-i-left#latest
former post very valid, nirn and maces were broken...what is your point?
My point was post 2 pages back and Nirn still used and same with Maul/mace they havent changed
did you play the game 1 year ago? Nirn on armor and duel weild maces were fixed a while back...nirn on armor gave you ridiculous spell resistance and duel wield maces allowed 100% armor pen.
Fail attempt at ad hominem
Ive played back even before release But dont steer from the question posed on gear that you can wear and make and get like anyone else.
In fact as other mentioned for you Daily (Orsilum gear) as well as this crafted set is your best option atm.
And from 14 pages of replies I think comunity sees that too .
Lol you steered it that way not me..you just got wrecked so you backpeddled .I you look on page 11 the people who posted most passionately in this actually agreed with me. You shouldn't have to grind dungeons for 1000x more hours than it takes to research gear to obtain item sets that have 0 value in the game.
You research everything once then you get to make crafted gear instantly the rest of the time the game is live....how many pieces of hundings have you made over the lifetime of your character? 4 sets? 5 sets? so that equals out to about 2 days of research on average...how many hundreds of hours does it take to get 5 piece divines sheer venom? What are the chances you will wear it? 0 because hundings is way betterEdited by Kelleton on January 27, 2016 5:07PM0 -
Messy1✭✭✭✭✭
✭Not everyone has access to guild mates/prefer to work hard to find everything thing need. I've only just gone v12 on my first toon and I barely have 7 traits researched let alone 9 and I've been playing daily since last August.
its 6 traits not 9 - just because you don't want to utilize other players doesn't mean if you chosoe to you can have a full set of hundings rage that out performs every other high end set in the game with almost 0 time investment
uhm 7x 2 hours, + 7x4 hourx + 7x8 hours + 7x16 hour + 7x32 hours + 7x 64 hours /3 = is no time investment oki
/zone need someone to craft hundings rage! = no time investment
What % of the population do you think have 6 traits researched on all pieces? I would say 90% of crafters (10% who are new)
Spending that time once should not make BIS gear for 2 years running at this point.
Hmmm, it is harder to find a crafter than you think unless you are good friends with one. As a crafter I do not take the majority of requests that are made in zone chat, and if I do I charge gold.
Besides crafted gear is a "base" of gear to start with, if you want to ascend to more elite levels in the game you have to get some dungeon gear or PvP gear, Hunding's rage only takes you so far and if you don't add in some protection and resists somewhere you become a glass cannon.
Did some crafter wrong you in some way?0 -
Kelleton✭✭✭Not everyone has access to guild mates/prefer to work hard to find everything thing need. I've only just gone v12 on my first toon and I barely have 7 traits researched let alone 9 and I've been playing daily since last August.
its 6 traits not 9 - just because you don't want to utilize other players doesn't mean if you chosoe to you can have a full set of hundings rage that out performs every other high end set in the game with almost 0 time investment
uhm 7x 2 hours, + 7x4 hourx + 7x8 hours + 7x16 hour + 7x32 hours + 7x 64 hours /3 = is no time investment oki
/zone need someone to craft hundings rage! = no time investment
What % of the population do you think have 6 traits researched on all pieces? I would say 90% of crafters (10% who are new)
Spending that time once should not make BIS gear for 2 years running at this point.
Hmmm, it is harder to find a crafter than you think unless you are good friends with one. As a crafter I do not take the majority of requests that are made in zone chat, and if I do I charge gold.
Besides crafted gear is a "base" of gear to start with, if you want to ascend to more elite levels in the game you have to get some dungeon gear or PvP gear, Hunding's rage only takes you so far and if you don't add in some protection and resists somewhere you become a glass cannon.
Did some crafter wrong you in some way?
wrong - hundings is BiS that's the whole issue...if it was like you said this thread wouldn't exist
btw I'm a crafter - I posted a pic on page 11 shows I made my own gear along with the amount of money ive made on crafting in the bottom rightEdited by Kelleton on January 27, 2016 5:11PM0 -
Sallington✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭gw2only1b14_ESO wrote: »gw2only1b14_ESO wrote: »gw2only1b14_ESO wrote: »TheDarkShadow wrote: »Idk why this thread is still going. There is no one "right" or "wrong" here. Everyone have their favour play style, casual, pvp, raiding... But as I said this game target a different market. It focus on the casual. So no matter how much time you waste crying here, as long as the major player base disagree with you, ZoS will listen to the bigger group. So if this system does not satisfy your "elite" ego, go back to WoW.
The thread is still going because a lot of people have good information to share. I think we can all agree that the OP is the only reason to avoid this thread. Just put him on ignore like I did, and let's continue to discuss gear combinations. I personally have thoroughly enjoyed seeing the combinations of dropped sets and crafted sets that people have put together.
BiS or not, it's still interesting to see other builds and learn from them.
Thanks did not know there was an ignore feature..... Will be using this in the future with all close minded posters ;-)
I still want a reason for his QQ when he can be cookie cutter too.
But hes just a Kaka stirrer like many like to be
his best former post
http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/194372/came-back-for-1-day-remembered-why-i-left#latest
former post very valid, nirn and maces were broken...what is your point?
My point was post 2 pages back and Nirn still used and same with Maul/mace they havent changed
did you play the game 1 year ago? Nirn on armor and duel weild maces were fixed a while back...nirn on armor gave you ridiculous spell resistance and duel wield maces allowed 100% armor pen.
Fail attempt at ad hominem
Ive played back even before release But dont steer from the question posed on gear that you can wear and make and get like anyone else.
In fact as other mentioned for you Daily (Orsilum gear) as well as this crafted set is your best option atm.
And from 14 pages of replies I think comunity sees that too .
Lol you steered it that way not me...if you look on page 11 the people who posted 200 posts in this actually agreed with me. You shouldn't have to grind dungeons for 1000x more hours than it takes to research gear to obtain item sets that have 0 value in the game.
You research everything once then you get to make crafted gear instantly the rest of the time the game is live....how many pieces of hundings have you made over the lifetime of your character? 4 sets? 5 sets? so that equals out to about 2 days of research on average...how many hundreds of hours does it take to get 5 piece divines sheer venom? What are the chances you will wear it? 0 because hundings is way betterNot everyone has access to guild mates/prefer to work hard to find everything thing need. I've only just gone v12 on my first toon and I barely have 7 traits researched let alone 9 and I've been playing daily since last August.
its 6 traits not 9 - just because you don't want to utilize other players doesn't mean if you chosoe to you can have a full set of hundings rage that out performs every other high end set in the game with almost 0 time investment
uhm 7x 2 hours, + 7x4 hourx + 7x8 hours + 7x16 hour + 7x32 hours + 7x 64 hours /3 = is no time investment oki
/zone need someone to craft hundings rage! = no time investment
What % of the population do you think have 6 traits researched on all pieces? I would say 90% of crafters (10% who are new)
Spending that time once should not make BIS gear for 2 years running at this point.
Hmmm, it is harder to find a crafter than you think unless you are good friends with one. As a crafter I do not take the majority of requests that are made in zone chat, and if I do I charge gold.
Besides crafted gear is a "base" of gear to start with, if you want to ascend to more elite levels in the game you have to get some dungeon gear or PvP gear, Hunding's rage only takes you so far and if you don't add in some protection and resists somewhere you become a glass cannon.
Did some crafter wrong you in some way?
wrong - hundings is BiS that's the whole issue...if it was like you said this thread wouldn't exist
It's only BiS if your stacking weapon damage. There's no stam or stam recovery on the set.Daggerfall Covenant
Sallington - Templar - Stormproof - Prefect II
Cobham - Sorcerer - Stormproof - First Sergeant II
Shallington - NightBlade - Lieutenant |
Balmorah - Templar - Sergeant ||2 -
Kelleton✭✭✭Sallington wrote: »gw2only1b14_ESO wrote: »gw2only1b14_ESO wrote: »gw2only1b14_ESO wrote: »TheDarkShadow wrote: »Idk why this thread is still going. There is no one "right" or "wrong" here. Everyone have their favour play style, casual, pvp, raiding... But as I said this game target a different market. It focus on the casual. So no matter how much time you waste crying here, as long as the major player base disagree with you, ZoS will listen to the bigger group. So if this system does not satisfy your "elite" ego, go back to WoW.
The thread is still going because a lot of people have good information to share. I think we can all agree that the OP is the only reason to avoid this thread. Just put him on ignore like I did, and let's continue to discuss gear combinations. I personally have thoroughly enjoyed seeing the combinations of dropped sets and crafted sets that people have put together.
BiS or not, it's still interesting to see other builds and learn from them.
Thanks did not know there was an ignore feature..... Will be using this in the future with all close minded posters ;-)
I still want a reason for his QQ when he can be cookie cutter too.
But hes just a Kaka stirrer like many like to be
his best former post
http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/194372/came-back-for-1-day-remembered-why-i-left#latest
former post very valid, nirn and maces were broken...what is your point?
My point was post 2 pages back and Nirn still used and same with Maul/mace they havent changed
did you play the game 1 year ago? Nirn on armor and duel weild maces were fixed a while back...nirn on armor gave you ridiculous spell resistance and duel wield maces allowed 100% armor pen.
Fail attempt at ad hominem
Ive played back even before release But dont steer from the question posed on gear that you can wear and make and get like anyone else.
In fact as other mentioned for you Daily (Orsilum gear) as well as this crafted set is your best option atm.
And from 14 pages of replies I think comunity sees that too .
Lol you steered it that way not me...if you look on page 11 the people who posted 200 posts in this actually agreed with me. You shouldn't have to grind dungeons for 1000x more hours than it takes to research gear to obtain item sets that have 0 value in the game.
You research everything once then you get to make crafted gear instantly the rest of the time the game is live....how many pieces of hundings have you made over the lifetime of your character? 4 sets? 5 sets? so that equals out to about 2 days of research on average...how many hundreds of hours does it take to get 5 piece divines sheer venom? What are the chances you will wear it? 0 because hundings is way betterNot everyone has access to guild mates/prefer to work hard to find everything thing need. I've only just gone v12 on my first toon and I barely have 7 traits researched let alone 9 and I've been playing daily since last August.
its 6 traits not 9 - just because you don't want to utilize other players doesn't mean if you chosoe to you can have a full set of hundings rage that out performs every other high end set in the game with almost 0 time investment
uhm 7x 2 hours, + 7x4 hourx + 7x8 hours + 7x16 hour + 7x32 hours + 7x 64 hours /3 = is no time investment oki
/zone need someone to craft hundings rage! = no time investment
What % of the population do you think have 6 traits researched on all pieces? I would say 90% of crafters (10% who are new)
Spending that time once should not make BIS gear for 2 years running at this point.
Hmmm, it is harder to find a crafter than you think unless you are good friends with one. As a crafter I do not take the majority of requests that are made in zone chat, and if I do I charge gold.
Besides crafted gear is a "base" of gear to start with, if you want to ascend to more elite levels in the game you have to get some dungeon gear or PvP gear, Hunding's rage only takes you so far and if you don't add in some protection and resists somewhere you become a glass cannon.
Did some crafter wrong you in some way?
wrong - hundings is BiS that's the whole issue...if it was like you said this thread wouldn't exist
It's only BiS if your stacking weapon damage. There's no stam or stam recovery on the set.
sigh...this is why this thread is as long as it is..no one reads and makes the same silly argument.... hundings maximizes both crit and weapon damage...you augment your regen needs with other sets...you arnt going to wear 9 pieces of hundings..hundings is the baseline 5 piece armor set for BIS
Edited by Kelleton on January 27, 2016 5:16PM0 -
Alucardo✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Some PVE sets could use slight buffs, but nerfing the current crafted sets is a terrible idea. Quite frankly, you should feel terrible for even suggesting it.3 -
gw2only1b14_ESO✭✭✭gw2only1b14_ESO wrote: »gw2only1b14_ESO wrote: »gw2only1b14_ESO wrote: »TheDarkShadow wrote: »Idk why this thread is still going. There is no one "right" or "wrong" here. Everyone have their favour play style, casual, pvp, raiding... But as I said this game target a different market. It focus on the casual. So no matter how much time you waste crying here, as long as the major player base disagree with you, ZoS will listen to the bigger group. So if this system does not satisfy your "elite" ego, go back to WoW.
The thread is still going because a lot of people have good information to share. I think we can all agree that the OP is the only reason to avoid this thread. Just put him on ignore like I did, and let's continue to discuss gear combinations. I personally have thoroughly enjoyed seeing the combinations of dropped sets and crafted sets that people have put together.
BiS or not, it's still interesting to see other builds and learn from them.
Thanks did not know there was an ignore feature..... Will be using this in the future with all close minded posters ;-)
I still want a reason for his QQ when he can be cookie cutter too.
But hes just a Kaka stirrer like many like to be
his best former post
http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/194372/came-back-for-1-day-remembered-why-i-left#latest
former post very valid, nirn and maces were broken...what is your point?
My point was post 2 pages back and Nirn still used and same with Maul/mace they havent changed
did you play the game 1 year ago? Nirn on armor and duel weild maces were fixed a while back...nirn on armor gave you ridiculous spell resistance and duel wield maces allowed 100% armor pen.
Fail attempt at ad hominem
Ive played back even before release But dont steer from the question posed on gear that you can wear and make and get like anyone else.
In fact as other mentioned for you Daily (Orsilum gear) as well as this crafted set is your best option atm.
And from 14 pages of replies I think comunity sees that too .
Lol you steered it that way not me..you just got wrecked so you backpeddled .I you look on page 11 the people who posted most passionately in this actually agreed with me. You shouldn't have to grind dungeons for 1000x more hours than it takes to research gear to obtain item sets that have 0 value in the game.
You research everything once then you get to make crafted gear instantly the rest of the time the game is live....how many pieces of hundings have you made over the lifetime of your character? 4 sets? 5 sets? so that equals out to about 2 days of research on average...how many hundreds of hours does it take to get 5 piece divines sheer venom? What are the chances you will wear it? 0 because hundings is way better
Dude no back peddle you never answered question But you took on noone becase ever valid point you failed to address or just glanced over I see you as 1 step away from wanting the crown store to give you the I win button button.
And as for hunding rage I have made none Im a Templar specced for group pvp thus I heal first dps 2nd
And on another point I dont grind pve never have I have never desired to grind PVE dungeons see our diffrence?
I craft and farm mats/trade craft and do quests.
In fact I just use twilights embrance and night silence..
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CloseLine✭✭I have to agree that crafting takes less effort than dungeon grinding. To say otherwise it's a bit disingenuous. Crafting is a time sink for sure, but it's only once.
I've crafted dozens of Hundings and Julianos pieces for my customers. I don't have to do that research anymore. Making the pieces is easy.
Here's the truth though. It doesn't matter that it's easy to craft gear. That has zero relevance on why crafted gear should be good. Why do I have customers at all for my crafting business? It's because crafted gear is good. Period. If it's not BIS no one will buy it. In order for people to buy things there must be demand. If the gear isn't good there's no demand. So simple.
When I loot a divines sheer venom I still get excited because guess what.... I can wear it AND hundings. There's 7 other gear slots. Grind for those.
I run wgt several times a week every week since Imp City launch and still no divines Kena head. That's plenty enough grind and effort. Stop worrying about crafting being easy. It being easy is irrelevant. Crafting should have VALUE. That's what's important. In order for it to have value then crafted gear must be valuable. That's it.
Builds using crafted AND looted gear is good.Edited by CloseLine on January 27, 2016 5:20PM5 -
Sallington✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭Sallington wrote: »gw2only1b14_ESO wrote: »gw2only1b14_ESO wrote: »gw2only1b14_ESO wrote: »TheDarkShadow wrote: »Idk why this thread is still going. There is no one "right" or "wrong" here. Everyone have their favour play style, casual, pvp, raiding... But as I said this game target a different market. It focus on the casual. So no matter how much time you waste crying here, as long as the major player base disagree with you, ZoS will listen to the bigger group. So if this system does not satisfy your "elite" ego, go back to WoW.
The thread is still going because a lot of people have good information to share. I think we can all agree that the OP is the only reason to avoid this thread. Just put him on ignore like I did, and let's continue to discuss gear combinations. I personally have thoroughly enjoyed seeing the combinations of dropped sets and crafted sets that people have put together.
BiS or not, it's still interesting to see other builds and learn from them.
Thanks did not know there was an ignore feature..... Will be using this in the future with all close minded posters ;-)
I still want a reason for his QQ when he can be cookie cutter too.
But hes just a Kaka stirrer like many like to be
his best former post
http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/194372/came-back-for-1-day-remembered-why-i-left#latest
former post very valid, nirn and maces were broken...what is your point?
My point was post 2 pages back and Nirn still used and same with Maul/mace they havent changed
did you play the game 1 year ago? Nirn on armor and duel weild maces were fixed a while back...nirn on armor gave you ridiculous spell resistance and duel wield maces allowed 100% armor pen.
Fail attempt at ad hominem
Ive played back even before release But dont steer from the question posed on gear that you can wear and make and get like anyone else.
In fact as other mentioned for you Daily (Orsilum gear) as well as this crafted set is your best option atm.
And from 14 pages of replies I think comunity sees that too .
Lol you steered it that way not me...if you look on page 11 the people who posted 200 posts in this actually agreed with me. You shouldn't have to grind dungeons for 1000x more hours than it takes to research gear to obtain item sets that have 0 value in the game.
You research everything once then you get to make crafted gear instantly the rest of the time the game is live....how many pieces of hundings have you made over the lifetime of your character? 4 sets? 5 sets? so that equals out to about 2 days of research on average...how many hundreds of hours does it take to get 5 piece divines sheer venom? What are the chances you will wear it? 0 because hundings is way betterNot everyone has access to guild mates/prefer to work hard to find everything thing need. I've only just gone v12 on my first toon and I barely have 7 traits researched let alone 9 and I've been playing daily since last August.
its 6 traits not 9 - just because you don't want to utilize other players doesn't mean if you chosoe to you can have a full set of hundings rage that out performs every other high end set in the game with almost 0 time investment
uhm 7x 2 hours, + 7x4 hourx + 7x8 hours + 7x16 hour + 7x32 hours + 7x 64 hours /3 = is no time investment oki
/zone need someone to craft hundings rage! = no time investment
What % of the population do you think have 6 traits researched on all pieces? I would say 90% of crafters (10% who are new)
Spending that time once should not make BIS gear for 2 years running at this point.
Hmmm, it is harder to find a crafter than you think unless you are good friends with one. As a crafter I do not take the majority of requests that are made in zone chat, and if I do I charge gold.
Besides crafted gear is a "base" of gear to start with, if you want to ascend to more elite levels in the game you have to get some dungeon gear or PvP gear, Hunding's rage only takes you so far and if you don't add in some protection and resists somewhere you become a glass cannon.
Did some crafter wrong you in some way?
wrong - hundings is BiS that's the whole issue...if it was like you said this thread wouldn't exist
It's only BiS if your stacking weapon damage. There's no stam or stam recovery on the set.
sigh...this is why this thread is as long as it is..no one reads and makes the same silly argument.... hundings maximizes both crit and weapon damage...you augment your regen needs with other sets...you arnt going to wear 9 pieces of hundings..hundings is the baseline 5 piece armor set for BIS
You can get your crit and dmg from other set pieces and enchants too. You're talking in circles.
It's not an OP set. Drops are as good as crafted depending on what you're looking for. If you don't think running PvE dungeons for gear is worth it, then just don't run them. This whole thread is ridiculous. If you want to get a piece of gear to wag your epeen around, then go complete vMA for a master weapon. There's no crafted equivalent that comes close to that.Daggerfall Covenant
Sallington - Templar - Stormproof - Prefect II
Cobham - Sorcerer - Stormproof - First Sergeant II
Shallington - NightBlade - Lieutenant |
Balmorah - Templar - Sergeant ||1 -
Kelleton✭✭✭When I loot a divines sheer venom I still get excited because guess what.... I can wear it AND hundings. There's 7 other gear slots. Grind for those.
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Thank you for a well thought post...problem is this...even if you wanted to augment hundings with another set another crafted set is still superior (night mother)
Sheer venom has no place in the game.
Hundings 5 piece bonus needs to be brought down. going from 4 piece to 5 piece gives more weapon damage than 4 pieces of sheer venom (which is the weapon damage set)0 -
Sharee✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭sigh...this is why this thread is as long as it is..no one reads and makes the same silly argument.... hundings maximizes both crit and weapon damage...you augment your regen needs with other sets...you arnt going to wear 9 pieces of hundings..hundings is the baseline 5 piece armor set for BIS
Weapon damage and crit are not the only important stats. I would go as far as to say the double crit bonus is actually a waste.
You sacrifice two set bonus slots to increase a stat that does absolutely nothing when hitting a shielded opponent, and very little when hitting an opponent with impenetrable/resistant.
In other words, hunding is only BIS in your head. Nothing wrong with that, we all have our preferences. But crying for nerfs because of what really is just your subjective opinion? Just no.0 -
KatzMainTank✭✭✭Someone make this man a Hundings set already. White. He can farm the upgrade mats willingly, apparently.EP - V12 - Crafter
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Kelleton✭✭✭sigh...this is why this thread is as long as it is..no one reads and makes the same silly argument.... hundings maximizes both crit and weapon damage...you augment your regen needs with other sets...you arnt going to wear 9 pieces of hundings..hundings is the baseline 5 piece armor set for BIS
Weapon damage and crit are not the only important stats. I would go as far as to say the double crit bonus is actually a waste.
You sacrifice two set bonus slots to increase a stat that does absolutely nothing when hitting a shielded opponent, and very little when hitting an opponent with impenetrable/resistant.
In other words, hunding is only BIS in your head. Nothing wrong with that, we all have our preferences. But crying for nerfs because of what really is just your subjective opinion? Just no.
its not in my head...go to any build list out there...see how many of them have 5 piece hundings..that is for a reason0 -
Kelleton✭✭✭Sallington wrote: »Sallington wrote: »gw2only1b14_ESO wrote: »gw2only1b14_ESO wrote: »gw2only1b14_ESO wrote: »TheDarkShadow wrote: »Idk why this thread is still going. There is no one "right" or "wrong" here. Everyone have their favour play style, casual, pvp, raiding... But as I said this game target a different market. It focus on the casual. So no matter how much time you waste crying here, as long as the major player base disagree with you, ZoS will listen to the bigger group. So if this system does not satisfy your "elite" ego, go back to WoW.
The thread is still going because a lot of people have good information to share. I think we can all agree that the OP is the only reason to avoid this thread. Just put him on ignore like I did, and let's continue to discuss gear combinations. I personally have thoroughly enjoyed seeing the combinations of dropped sets and crafted sets that people have put together.
BiS or not, it's still interesting to see other builds and learn from them.
Thanks did not know there was an ignore feature..... Will be using this in the future with all close minded posters ;-)
I still want a reason for his QQ when he can be cookie cutter too.
But hes just a Kaka stirrer like many like to be
his best former post
http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/194372/came-back-for-1-day-remembered-why-i-left#latest
former post very valid, nirn and maces were broken...what is your point?
My point was post 2 pages back and Nirn still used and same with Maul/mace they havent changed
did you play the game 1 year ago? Nirn on armor and duel weild maces were fixed a while back...nirn on armor gave you ridiculous spell resistance and duel wield maces allowed 100% armor pen.
Fail attempt at ad hominem
Ive played back even before release But dont steer from the question posed on gear that you can wear and make and get like anyone else.
In fact as other mentioned for you Daily (Orsilum gear) as well as this crafted set is your best option atm.
And from 14 pages of replies I think comunity sees that too .
Lol you steered it that way not me...if you look on page 11 the people who posted 200 posts in this actually agreed with me. You shouldn't have to grind dungeons for 1000x more hours than it takes to research gear to obtain item sets that have 0 value in the game.
You research everything once then you get to make crafted gear instantly the rest of the time the game is live....how many pieces of hundings have you made over the lifetime of your character? 4 sets? 5 sets? so that equals out to about 2 days of research on average...how many hundreds of hours does it take to get 5 piece divines sheer venom? What are the chances you will wear it? 0 because hundings is way betterNot everyone has access to guild mates/prefer to work hard to find everything thing need. I've only just gone v12 on my first toon and I barely have 7 traits researched let alone 9 and I've been playing daily since last August.
its 6 traits not 9 - just because you don't want to utilize other players doesn't mean if you chosoe to you can have a full set of hundings rage that out performs every other high end set in the game with almost 0 time investment
uhm 7x 2 hours, + 7x4 hourx + 7x8 hours + 7x16 hour + 7x32 hours + 7x 64 hours /3 = is no time investment oki
/zone need someone to craft hundings rage! = no time investment
What % of the population do you think have 6 traits researched on all pieces? I would say 90% of crafters (10% who are new)
Spending that time once should not make BIS gear for 2 years running at this point.
Hmmm, it is harder to find a crafter than you think unless you are good friends with one. As a crafter I do not take the majority of requests that are made in zone chat, and if I do I charge gold.
Besides crafted gear is a "base" of gear to start with, if you want to ascend to more elite levels in the game you have to get some dungeon gear or PvP gear, Hunding's rage only takes you so far and if you don't add in some protection and resists somewhere you become a glass cannon.
Did some crafter wrong you in some way?
wrong - hundings is BiS that's the whole issue...if it was like you said this thread wouldn't exist
It's only BiS if your stacking weapon damage. There's no stam or stam recovery on the set.
sigh...this is why this thread is as long as it is..no one reads and makes the same silly argument.... hundings maximizes both crit and weapon damage...you augment your regen needs with other sets...you arnt going to wear 9 pieces of hundings..hundings is the baseline 5 piece armor set for BIS
You can get your crit and dmg from other set pieces and enchants too. You're talking in circles.
It's not an OP set. Drops are as good as crafted depending on what you're looking for. If you don't think running PvE dungeons for gear is worth it, then just don't run them. This whole thread is ridiculous. If you want to get a piece of gear to wag your epeen around, then go complete vMA for a master weapon. There's no crafted equivalent that comes close to that.
Please give me an example of a 5 piece stamina set that is as strong and as hundings?Edited by Kelleton on January 27, 2016 5:26PM0 -
Sharee✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭sigh...this is why this thread is as long as it is..no one reads and makes the same silly argument.... hundings maximizes both crit and weapon damage...you augment your regen needs with other sets...you arnt going to wear 9 pieces of hundings..hundings is the baseline 5 piece armor set for BIS
Weapon damage and crit are not the only important stats. I would go as far as to say the double crit bonus is actually a waste.
You sacrifice two set bonus slots to increase a stat that does absolutely nothing when hitting a shielded opponent, and very little when hitting an opponent with impenetrable/resistant.
In other words, hunding is only BIS in your head. Nothing wrong with that, we all have our preferences. But crying for nerfs because of what really is just your subjective opinion? Just no.
its not in my head...go to any build list out there...see how many of them have 5 piece hundings..that is for a reason
I don't care about 'build lists'. I can use my own head. And my head tells me that having 10% higher crit chance when fighting a shield stacking sorc has way less value than any other stat i could use those two set bonuses for.0 -
Yorubuke✭TheDarkShadow wrote: »Idk why this thread is still going. There is no one "right" or "wrong" here. Everyone have their favour play style, casual, pvp, raiding... But as I said this game target a different market. It focus on the casual. So no matter how much time you waste crying here, as long as the major player base disagree with you, ZoS will listen to the bigger group. So if this system does not satisfy your "elite" ego, go back to WoW.
The thread is still going because a lot of people have good information to share. I think we can all agree that the OP is the only reason to avoid this thread. Just put him on ignore like I did, and let's continue to discuss gear combinations. I personally have thoroughly enjoyed seeing the combinations of dropped sets and crafted sets that people have put together.
BiS or not, it's still interesting to see other builds and learn from them.
Yeh i like seeing other people's ideas as well. Im trying out a Stamina Templar with 5 Night Mother's Gaze, 3 Shadow Walker, 2 Agility Set Pieces.For the Dominion.
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Alot of End Game dropped gear is some of the best. Agility, Willpower Jewelry is something no crafter can ever make and is a great addition to almost any build. Same with Monster Helmets, cant be crafted and some of the best gear in the game. So im no seeing how its unbalanced here.For the Dominion.
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✭✭✭✭Sallington wrote: »Sallington wrote: »gw2only1b14_ESO wrote: »gw2only1b14_ESO wrote: »gw2only1b14_ESO wrote: »TheDarkShadow wrote: »Idk why this thread is still going. There is no one "right" or "wrong" here. Everyone have their favour play style, casual, pvp, raiding... But as I said this game target a different market. It focus on the casual. So no matter how much time you waste crying here, as long as the major player base disagree with you, ZoS will listen to the bigger group. So if this system does not satisfy your "elite" ego, go back to WoW.
The thread is still going because a lot of people have good information to share. I think we can all agree that the OP is the only reason to avoid this thread. Just put him on ignore like I did, and let's continue to discuss gear combinations. I personally have thoroughly enjoyed seeing the combinations of dropped sets and crafted sets that people have put together.
BiS or not, it's still interesting to see other builds and learn from them.
Thanks did not know there was an ignore feature..... Will be using this in the future with all close minded posters ;-)
I still want a reason for his QQ when he can be cookie cutter too.
But hes just a Kaka stirrer like many like to be
his best former post
http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/194372/came-back-for-1-day-remembered-why-i-left#latest
former post very valid, nirn and maces were broken...what is your point?
My point was post 2 pages back and Nirn still used and same with Maul/mace they havent changed
did you play the game 1 year ago? Nirn on armor and duel weild maces were fixed a while back...nirn on armor gave you ridiculous spell resistance and duel wield maces allowed 100% armor pen.
Fail attempt at ad hominem
Ive played back even before release But dont steer from the question posed on gear that you can wear and make and get like anyone else.
In fact as other mentioned for you Daily (Orsilum gear) as well as this crafted set is your best option atm.
And from 14 pages of replies I think comunity sees that too .
Lol you steered it that way not me...if you look on page 11 the people who posted 200 posts in this actually agreed with me. You shouldn't have to grind dungeons for 1000x more hours than it takes to research gear to obtain item sets that have 0 value in the game.
You research everything once then you get to make crafted gear instantly the rest of the time the game is live....how many pieces of hundings have you made over the lifetime of your character? 4 sets? 5 sets? so that equals out to about 2 days of research on average...how many hundreds of hours does it take to get 5 piece divines sheer venom? What are the chances you will wear it? 0 because hundings is way betterNot everyone has access to guild mates/prefer to work hard to find everything thing need. I've only just gone v12 on my first toon and I barely have 7 traits researched let alone 9 and I've been playing daily since last August.
its 6 traits not 9 - just because you don't want to utilize other players doesn't mean if you chosoe to you can have a full set of hundings rage that out performs every other high end set in the game with almost 0 time investment
uhm 7x 2 hours, + 7x4 hourx + 7x8 hours + 7x16 hour + 7x32 hours + 7x 64 hours /3 = is no time investment oki
/zone need someone to craft hundings rage! = no time investment
What % of the population do you think have 6 traits researched on all pieces? I would say 90% of crafters (10% who are new)
Spending that time once should not make BIS gear for 2 years running at this point.
Hmmm, it is harder to find a crafter than you think unless you are good friends with one. As a crafter I do not take the majority of requests that are made in zone chat, and if I do I charge gold.
Besides crafted gear is a "base" of gear to start with, if you want to ascend to more elite levels in the game you have to get some dungeon gear or PvP gear, Hunding's rage only takes you so far and if you don't add in some protection and resists somewhere you become a glass cannon.
Did some crafter wrong you in some way?
wrong - hundings is BiS that's the whole issue...if it was like you said this thread wouldn't exist
It's only BiS if your stacking weapon damage. There's no stam or stam recovery on the set.
sigh...this is why this thread is as long as it is..no one reads and makes the same silly argument.... hundings maximizes both crit and weapon damage...you augment your regen needs with other sets...you arnt going to wear 9 pieces of hundings..hundings is the baseline 5 piece armor set for BIS
You can get your crit and dmg from other set pieces and enchants too. You're talking in circles.
It's not an OP set. Drops are as good as crafted depending on what you're looking for. If you don't think running PvE dungeons for gear is worth it, then just don't run them. This whole thread is ridiculous. If you want to get a piece of gear to wag your epeen around, then go complete vMA for a master weapon. There's no crafted equivalent that comes close to that.
Please give me an example of a 5 piece stamina set that is as strong and as hundings?
Ravagers, which includes jewelery.
Sheer Venom is a good set despite what you say.
Shield Breaker for PvP (great 4-piece for PvE)
Briarheart
Molag Kena gives almost half of the 5-piece weapon dmg in 1 piece.
There's some other good 4-pieces that include jewelery as wellDaggerfall Covenant
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Kelleton✭✭✭sigh...this is why this thread is as long as it is..no one reads and makes the same silly argument.... hundings maximizes both crit and weapon damage...you augment your regen needs with other sets...you arnt going to wear 9 pieces of hundings..hundings is the baseline 5 piece armor set for BIS
Weapon damage and crit are not the only important stats. I would go as far as to say the double crit bonus is actually a waste.
You sacrifice two set bonus slots to increase a stat that does absolutely nothing when hitting a shielded opponent, and very little when hitting an opponent with impenetrable/resistant.
In other words, hunding is only BIS in your head. Nothing wrong with that, we all have our preferences. But crying for nerfs because of what really is just your subjective opinion? Just no.
its not in my head...go to any build list out there...see how many of them have 5 piece hundings..that is for a reason
I don't care about 'build lists'. I can use my own head. And my head tells me that having 10% higher crit chance when fighting a shield stacking sorc has way less value than any other stat i could use those two set bonuses for.
good thing it gives 300 weapon damage then huh? Oh yeah what other sets give that much weapon damage?0 -
Yorubuke✭sigh...this is why this thread is as long as it is..no one reads and makes the same silly argument.... hundings maximizes both crit and weapon damage...you augment your regen needs with other sets...you arnt going to wear 9 pieces of hundings..hundings is the baseline 5 piece armor set for BIS
Weapon damage and crit are not the only important stats. I would go as far as to say the double crit bonus is actually a waste.
You sacrifice two set bonus slots to increase a stat that does absolutely nothing when hitting a shielded opponent, and very little when hitting an opponent with impenetrable/resistant.
In other words, hunding is only BIS in your head. Nothing wrong with that, we all have our preferences. But crying for nerfs because of what really is just your subjective opinion? Just no.
its not in my head...go to any build list out there...see how many of them have 5 piece hundings..that is for a reason
I don't care about 'build lists'. I can use my own head. And my head tells me that having 10% higher crit chance when fighting a shield stacking sorc has way less value than any other stat i could use those two set bonuses for.
good thing it gives 300 weapon damage then huh? Oh yeah what other sets give that much weapon damage?
Morag Tong gives almost that much with 4 pieces combine that with ur Venom and ud have a good set thereFor the Dominion.
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Kelleton✭✭✭Sallington wrote: »Sallington wrote: »Sallington wrote: »gw2only1b14_ESO wrote: »gw2only1b14_ESO wrote: »gw2only1b14_ESO wrote: »TheDarkShadow wrote: »Idk why this thread is still going. There is no one "right" or "wrong" here. Everyone have their favour play style, casual, pvp, raiding... But as I said this game target a different market. It focus on the casual. So no matter how much time you waste crying here, as long as the major player base disagree with you, ZoS will listen to the bigger group. So if this system does not satisfy your "elite" ego, go back to WoW.
The thread is still going because a lot of people have good information to share. I think we can all agree that the OP is the only reason to avoid this thread. Just put him on ignore like I did, and let's continue to discuss gear combinations. I personally have thoroughly enjoyed seeing the combinations of dropped sets and crafted sets that people have put together.
BiS or not, it's still interesting to see other builds and learn from them.
Thanks did not know there was an ignore feature..... Will be using this in the future with all close minded posters ;-)
I still want a reason for his QQ when he can be cookie cutter too.
But hes just a Kaka stirrer like many like to be
his best former post
http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/194372/came-back-for-1-day-remembered-why-i-left#latest
former post very valid, nirn and maces were broken...what is your point?
My point was post 2 pages back and Nirn still used and same with Maul/mace they havent changed
did you play the game 1 year ago? Nirn on armor and duel weild maces were fixed a while back...nirn on armor gave you ridiculous spell resistance and duel wield maces allowed 100% armor pen.
Fail attempt at ad hominem
Ive played back even before release But dont steer from the question posed on gear that you can wear and make and get like anyone else.
In fact as other mentioned for you Daily (Orsilum gear) as well as this crafted set is your best option atm.
And from 14 pages of replies I think comunity sees that too .
Lol you steered it that way not me...if you look on page 11 the people who posted 200 posts in this actually agreed with me. You shouldn't have to grind dungeons for 1000x more hours than it takes to research gear to obtain item sets that have 0 value in the game.
You research everything once then you get to make crafted gear instantly the rest of the time the game is live....how many pieces of hundings have you made over the lifetime of your character? 4 sets? 5 sets? so that equals out to about 2 days of research on average...how many hundreds of hours does it take to get 5 piece divines sheer venom? What are the chances you will wear it? 0 because hundings is way betterNot everyone has access to guild mates/prefer to work hard to find everything thing need. I've only just gone v12 on my first toon and I barely have 7 traits researched let alone 9 and I've been playing daily since last August.
its 6 traits not 9 - just because you don't want to utilize other players doesn't mean if you chosoe to you can have a full set of hundings rage that out performs every other high end set in the game with almost 0 time investment
uhm 7x 2 hours, + 7x4 hourx + 7x8 hours + 7x16 hour + 7x32 hours + 7x 64 hours /3 = is no time investment oki
/zone need someone to craft hundings rage! = no time investment
What % of the population do you think have 6 traits researched on all pieces? I would say 90% of crafters (10% who are new)
Spending that time once should not make BIS gear for 2 years running at this point.
Hmmm, it is harder to find a crafter than you think unless you are good friends with one. As a crafter I do not take the majority of requests that are made in zone chat, and if I do I charge gold.
Besides crafted gear is a "base" of gear to start with, if you want to ascend to more elite levels in the game you have to get some dungeon gear or PvP gear, Hunding's rage only takes you so far and if you don't add in some protection and resists somewhere you become a glass cannon.
Did some crafter wrong you in some way?
wrong - hundings is BiS that's the whole issue...if it was like you said this thread wouldn't exist
It's only BiS if your stacking weapon damage. There's no stam or stam recovery on the set.
sigh...this is why this thread is as long as it is..no one reads and makes the same silly argument.... hundings maximizes both crit and weapon damage...you augment your regen needs with other sets...you arnt going to wear 9 pieces of hundings..hundings is the baseline 5 piece armor set for BIS
You can get your crit and dmg from other set pieces and enchants too. You're talking in circles.
It's not an OP set. Drops are as good as crafted depending on what you're looking for. If you don't think running PvE dungeons for gear is worth it, then just don't run them. This whole thread is ridiculous. If you want to get a piece of gear to wag your epeen around, then go complete vMA for a master weapon. There's no crafted equivalent that comes close to that.
Please give me an example of a 5 piece stamina set that is as strong and as hundings?
Ravagers, which includes jewelery.
Sheer Venom is a good set despite what you say.
Shield Breaker for PvP (great 4-piece for PvE)
Briarheart
Molag Kena gives almost half of the 5-piece weapon dmg in 1 piece.
There's some other good 4-pieces that include jewelery as well
ravagers is not close due to the proc nerf - pre nerf it was good but you have almost no upkeep on the proc now.
sheer venom is trash as it gives less weapon damage, 10% less crit and 5 piece bonus does almost nothing.
Briar heart is good but proven to be a dps loss
molag kena is a 2 piece set - we are discussing 5 piece sets all 2 piece sets are designed to be higher value0 -
Kelleton✭✭✭sigh...this is why this thread is as long as it is..no one reads and makes the same silly argument.... hundings maximizes both crit and weapon damage...you augment your regen needs with other sets...you arnt going to wear 9 pieces of hundings..hundings is the baseline 5 piece armor set for BIS
Weapon damage and crit are not the only important stats. I would go as far as to say the double crit bonus is actually a waste.
You sacrifice two set bonus slots to increase a stat that does absolutely nothing when hitting a shielded opponent, and very little when hitting an opponent with impenetrable/resistant.
In other words, hunding is only BIS in your head. Nothing wrong with that, we all have our preferences. But crying for nerfs because of what really is just your subjective opinion? Just no.
its not in my head...go to any build list out there...see how many of them have 5 piece hundings..that is for a reason
I don't care about 'build lists'. I can use my own head. And my head tells me that having 10% higher crit chance when fighting a shield stacking sorc has way less value than any other stat i could use those two set bonuses for.
good thing it gives 300 weapon damage then huh? Oh yeah what other sets give that much weapon damage?sigh...this is why this thread is as long as it is..no one reads and makes the same silly argument.... hundings maximizes both crit and weapon damage...you augment your regen needs with other sets...you arnt going to wear 9 pieces of hundings..hundings is the baseline 5 piece armor set for BIS
Weapon damage and crit are not the only important stats. I would go as far as to say the double crit bonus is actually a waste.
You sacrifice two set bonus slots to increase a stat that does absolutely nothing when hitting a shielded opponent, and very little when hitting an opponent with impenetrable/resistant.
In other words, hunding is only BIS in your head. Nothing wrong with that, we all have our preferences. But crying for nerfs because of what really is just your subjective opinion? Just no.
its not in my head...go to any build list out there...see how many of them have 5 piece hundings..that is for a reason
I don't care about 'build lists'. I can use my own head. And my head tells me that having 10% higher crit chance when fighting a shield stacking sorc has way less value than any other stat i could use those two set bonuses for.
good thing it gives 300 weapon damage then huh? Oh yeah what other sets give that much weapon damage?
Morag Tong gives almost that much with 4 pieces combine that with ur Venom and ud have a good set there
yeah "almost as much" and lose 10% crit and stuck in well fitted which is amazing..dps loss there
sheer venom is trumped by another set in every set bonus category.Edited by Kelleton on January 27, 2016 5:45PM0 -
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✭✭✭✭sigh...this is why this thread is as long as it is..no one reads and makes the same silly argument.... hundings maximizes both crit and weapon damage...you augment your regen needs with other sets...you arnt going to wear 9 pieces of hundings..hundings is the baseline 5 piece armor set for BIS
Weapon damage and crit are not the only important stats. I would go as far as to say the double crit bonus is actually a waste.
You sacrifice two set bonus slots to increase a stat that does absolutely nothing when hitting a shielded opponent, and very little when hitting an opponent with impenetrable/resistant.
In other words, hunding is only BIS in your head. Nothing wrong with that, we all have our preferences. But crying for nerfs because of what really is just your subjective opinion? Just no.
its not in my head...go to any build list out there...see how many of them have 5 piece hundings..that is for a reason
I don't care about 'build lists'. I can use my own head. And my head tells me that having 10% higher crit chance when fighting a shield stacking sorc has way less value than any other stat i could use those two set bonuses for.
good thing it gives 300 weapon damage then huh? Oh yeah what other sets give that much weapon damage?sigh...this is why this thread is as long as it is..no one reads and makes the same silly argument.... hundings maximizes both crit and weapon damage...you augment your regen needs with other sets...you arnt going to wear 9 pieces of hundings..hundings is the baseline 5 piece armor set for BIS
Weapon damage and crit are not the only important stats. I would go as far as to say the double crit bonus is actually a waste.
You sacrifice two set bonus slots to increase a stat that does absolutely nothing when hitting a shielded opponent, and very little when hitting an opponent with impenetrable/resistant.
In other words, hunding is only BIS in your head. Nothing wrong with that, we all have our preferences. But crying for nerfs because of what really is just your subjective opinion? Just no.
its not in my head...go to any build list out there...see how many of them have 5 piece hundings..that is for a reason
I don't care about 'build lists'. I can use my own head. And my head tells me that having 10% higher crit chance when fighting a shield stacking sorc has way less value than any other stat i could use those two set bonuses for.
good thing it gives 300 weapon damage then huh? Oh yeah what other sets give that much weapon damage?
Morag Tong gives almost that much with 4 pieces combine that with ur Venom and ud have a good set there
yeah well fitted is amazing..dps loss there
EXACTLY!
You are mad at poor itemization and RNG. Direct your energy there, not nerfing crafted sets.Daggerfall Covenant
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Kelleton✭✭✭sigh...this is why this thread is as long as it is..no one reads and makes the same silly argument.... hundings maximizes both crit and weapon damage...you augment your regen needs with other sets...you arnt going to wear 9 pieces of hundings..hundings is the baseline 5 piece armor set for BIS
Weapon damage and crit are not the only important stats. I would go as far as to say the double crit bonus is actually a waste.
You sacrifice two set bonus slots to increase a stat that does absolutely nothing when hitting a shielded opponent, and very little when hitting an opponent with impenetrable/resistant.
In other words, hunding is only BIS in your head. Nothing wrong with that, we all have our preferences. But crying for nerfs because of what really is just your subjective opinion? Just no.
its not in my head...go to any build list out there...see how many of them have 5 piece hundings..that is for a reason
I don't care about 'build lists'. I can use my own head. And my head tells me that having 10% higher crit chance when fighting a shield stacking sorc has way less value than any other stat i could use those two set bonuses for.
good thing it gives 300 weapon damage then huh? Oh yeah what other sets give that much weapon damage?sigh...this is why this thread is as long as it is..no one reads and makes the same silly argument.... hundings maximizes both crit and weapon damage...you augment your regen needs with other sets...you arnt going to wear 9 pieces of hundings..hundings is the baseline 5 piece armor set for BIS
Weapon damage and crit are not the only important stats. I would go as far as to say the double crit bonus is actually a waste.
You sacrifice two set bonus slots to increase a stat that does absolutely nothing when hitting a shielded opponent, and very little when hitting an opponent with impenetrable/resistant.
In other words, hunding is only BIS in your head. Nothing wrong with that, we all have our preferences. But crying for nerfs because of what really is just your subjective opinion? Just no.
its not in my head...go to any build list out there...see how many of them have 5 piece hundings..that is for a reason
I don't care about 'build lists'. I can use my own head. And my head tells me that having 10% higher crit chance when fighting a shield stacking sorc has way less value than any other stat i could use those two set bonuses for.
good thing it gives 300 weapon damage then huh? Oh yeah what other sets give that much weapon damage?
Morag Tong gives almost that much with 4 pieces combine that with ur Venom and ud have a good set there
yeah well fitted is amazing..dps loss thereSallington wrote: »sigh...this is why this thread is as long as it is..no one reads and makes the same silly argument.... hundings maximizes both crit and weapon damage...you augment your regen needs with other sets...you arnt going to wear 9 pieces of hundings..hundings is the baseline 5 piece armor set for BIS
Weapon damage and crit are not the only important stats. I would go as far as to say the double crit bonus is actually a waste.
You sacrifice two set bonus slots to increase a stat that does absolutely nothing when hitting a shielded opponent, and very little when hitting an opponent with impenetrable/resistant.
In other words, hunding is only BIS in your head. Nothing wrong with that, we all have our preferences. But crying for nerfs because of what really is just your subjective opinion? Just no.
its not in my head...go to any build list out there...see how many of them have 5 piece hundings..that is for a reason
I don't care about 'build lists'. I can use my own head. And my head tells me that having 10% higher crit chance when fighting a shield stacking sorc has way less value than any other stat i could use those two set bonuses for.
good thing it gives 300 weapon damage then huh? Oh yeah what other sets give that much weapon damage?sigh...this is why this thread is as long as it is..no one reads and makes the same silly argument.... hundings maximizes both crit and weapon damage...you augment your regen needs with other sets...you arnt going to wear 9 pieces of hundings..hundings is the baseline 5 piece armor set for BIS
Weapon damage and crit are not the only important stats. I would go as far as to say the double crit bonus is actually a waste.
You sacrifice two set bonus slots to increase a stat that does absolutely nothing when hitting a shielded opponent, and very little when hitting an opponent with impenetrable/resistant.
In other words, hunding is only BIS in your head. Nothing wrong with that, we all have our preferences. But crying for nerfs because of what really is just your subjective opinion? Just no.
its not in my head...go to any build list out there...see how many of them have 5 piece hundings..that is for a reason
I don't care about 'build lists'. I can use my own head. And my head tells me that having 10% higher crit chance when fighting a shield stacking sorc has way less value than any other stat i could use those two set bonuses for.
good thing it gives 300 weapon damage then huh? Oh yeah what other sets give that much weapon damage?
Morag Tong gives almost that much with 4 pieces combine that with ur Venom and ud have a good set there
yeah well fitted is amazing..dps loss there
EXACTLY!
You are mad at poor itemization and RNG. Direct your energy there, not nerfing crafted sets.
No I'm directing it at the 5 piece hundings bonus because it adds waaay too much weapon damage to a set that also maximizes crit. It maximizes the 2 most important stats for damage no other set does that
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