magica deto?

leepalmer95 · January 2016

Edziu wrote: »

SneaK wrote: »

Ulti's combined with two other skills, sorry, but that's a combo, not a showcase of one skill killing you.

So tired of these tears, if Prox is nerfed cause of them RIP melee Magblades.

ulti but deto do higher amount of damage, so only magica vampires are to good balanced, or vamp or det, if its vamp with deto you dont have any chance without being magica build with dawnbreaker of smiting

SneaK wrote: »

Yep, cause of terrible posts like this.

and no only cause these posts, just thanks (maybe only...maybe) these vampire lethal comobs in 1 to max 2 sec of combat....

and hmm, also thanks high burst builds on pvp for nb, like me, without very good surveve (what people do not pay attention -.-) noobs want to nerf SA what cant be done because when SA will be nerfet then eh...nb stamina dps pve big nerf + 95% of stamina build on pvp will spam wreck blow what is worse thans SA to dodge, block etc

Just block. Is it so hard?

If their a vamp, easy kill.

Edziu · January 2016

leepalmer95 wrote: »

Just block. Is it so hard?

If their a vamp, easy kill.

HA HA HA, very funny, from stealth instanlty he is invisible with ulti and on you back, you will see him after these 1st hits so when you have losted aroud 15k+ health and you are on 1 hit

try to block this as i say...this combat was maybe in 1 to maybe 2 sec.......so good luck with blocking under 25% health being spammed with aoe with vamp ulti

SneaK · January 2016

Edziu wrote: »

SneaK wrote: »

Ulti's combined with two other skills, sorry, but that's a combo, not a showcase of one skill killing you.

So tired of these tears, if Prox is nerfed cause of them RIP melee Magblades.

ulti but deto do higher amount of damage, so only magica vampires are to good balanced, or vamp or det, if its vamp with deto you dont have any chance without being magica build with dawnbreaker of smiting

SneaK wrote: »

Yep, cause of terrible posts like this.

and no only cause these posts, just thanks (maybe only...maybe) these vampire lethal comobs in 1 to max 2 sec of combat....

and hmm, also thanks high burst builds on pvp for nb, like me, without very good surveve (what people do not pay attention -.-) noobs want to nerf SA what cant be done because when SA will be nerfet then eh...nb stamina dps pve big nerf + 95% of stamina build on pvp will spam wreck blow what is worse thans SA to dodge, block etc

Sorry, but I don't understand your argument. You were hit by a combo from a high burst magbuild and died. That player trades a lot of incoming damage for that one combo he/she used, and you are complaining about it (ie. vamps are in danger of all FG abilities and passives, which almost every max player has unlocked.). The only gains from being a Vampire at current is bat swarm and that small amount of regen, and you are complaining that when that one ability is coupled in with another, it's deadly?

Quit your crying.

I bet that guy could also send you screenshots of one stam skill one shotting him, ie. Camo Hunter.

(Additionally, prox takes 8 seconds, he had the drop on you and timed his burst, but you had well over 2 seconds to figure out you were about to be attacked.)

Lexxypwns · January 2016

HOW TO COUNTER BATSWARM/SAP/DET COMBO AS A STAM NB:

1. CC break if needed
2. Fear
3. roll
4. cloak
5. re-engage when bats ends

Other options:
More CP into resitant
block
shadow image

Edziu · January 2016

SneaK wrote: »

Quit your crying.

I bet that guy could also send you screenshots of one stam skill one shotting him, ie. Camo Hunter.

(Additionally, prox takes 8 seconds, he had the drop on you and timed his burst, but you had well over 2 seconds to figure out you were about to be attacked.)

Lexxypwns wrote: »

HOW TO COUNTER BATSWARM/SAP/DET COMBO AS A STAM NB:

1. CC break if needed
2. Fear
3. roll
4. cloak
5. re-engage when bats ends

Other options:
More CP into resitant
block
shadow image

8 sec duration..ok, but he just waithin the 6-7 sec and cof to use fear if as I writed here, he be invisible, 1 sec then I saw 1st time his bat swamr i was under 25% health, when I saw it...rolldodge dont have enought range to run from aoe, no time to fear when i havt time to react to block anything/rolldodge this, from hide its 100% die if you are not supporting from good healr on back

ok, NB are for fast killing with lethal blows....but in this combo all classes can do this and its aoe...when on stmaina you can only on single target burst like this fast and you are visible after attack, you can ale fast break free, dodge etc from stamina gang because he is visible after 1st attack, with this bat swarm ehh...something completely different, on start this bat swarm is so small when its now start doing damage, when you just see bat swarm on athis full range...you are dead in this time thanks deto

Lexxypwns · January 2016

Here's the thing, you're just complaining instead of trying to learn ways to counter it.

I fight these NBs all the time and I never have issues with them unless there's more than 1 well played Magblade at a time. Remember that they can still be CC'ed and try to use that to interrupt their burst and allow yourself to create space/get out of their batswarm. Sometimes, since they can't see their own characters in invis bats they won't react to the CC until you've had time to totally escape/wasted a lot of their ulti. These guys are actually quite squishy when you can single target them after their ulti ends, its all about avoiding their burst and timing your own, which, since they're vamp, should be very easy to pull off

As far as stam NB being squishy, its because you built glass cannon, that's probably why you can't counter these guys, running all divines or divines/infused is a pve build and will only get you nuked in pvp (unless you're a sorc, because you can't crit shields), try running more impen, even if you change nothing in your build but that you'll find yourself much more tanky. Maybe put on a sword and shield and run reflect as well, if you can't survive as a stam NB you're either intentionally not building for it or you're just unaware of game mechanics/bad

As far as balance, all mag classes get to use Det for damage regardless of weapons, but all stam classes get access to vigor for heals regardless of weapons, I find this to be good balance because most magika builds are missing burst damage and most stamina builds are missing heals without these abilities

leepalmer95 · January 2016

Edziu wrote: »

SneaK wrote: »

Quit your crying.

I bet that guy could also send you screenshots of one stam skill one shotting him, ie. Camo Hunter.

(Additionally, prox takes 8 seconds, he had the drop on you and timed his burst, but you had well over 2 seconds to figure out you were about to be attacked.)

Lexxypwns wrote: »

HOW TO COUNTER BATSWARM/SAP/DET COMBO AS A STAM NB:

1. CC break if needed
2. Fear
3. roll
4. cloak
5. re-engage when bats ends

Other options:
More CP into resitant
block
shadow image

8 sec duration..ok, but he just waithin the 6-7 sec and cof to use fear if as I writed here, he be invisible, 1 sec then I saw 1st time his bat swamr i was under 25% health, when I saw it...rolldodge dont have enought range to run from aoe, no time to fear when i havt time to react to block anything/rolldodge this, from hide its 100% die if you are not supporting from good healr on back

ok, NB are for fast killing with lethal blows....but in this combo all classes can do this and its aoe...when on stmaina you can only on single target burst like this fast and you are visible after attack, you can ale fast break free, dodge etc from stamina gang because he is visible after 1st attack, with this bat swarm ehh...something completely different, on start this bat swarm is so small when its now start doing damage, when you just see bat swarm on athis full range...you are dead in this time thanks deto

It's like your refusing to learn.

If my vet 2 templar can kill vet 16 magblades that do this so should you.

Get more hp, put more cp in defence.

Edziu · January 2016

@Lexxypwns i think you dont understand this...im not pure glass cannon have also so good defence with high dmg, I have some skill to survive normal fights

leepalmer95 wrote: »

It's like your refusing to learn.

If my vet 2 templar can kill vet 16 magblades that do this so should you.

Get more hp, put more cp in defence.

hmm lol, cant get more def from cp, i have 22k hp so its average, normally i dont have problems also with this deto when i l2p agains this...my problem is with vampire with deto or any other magica build ganging with deto....but with normal magica with deto you have chance to react etc....with wampire like this its impossible...he is in hide, activating deto behind something so I dont see, he waiting this moment for det, then attacking with instantly vamp ulti, from hide activating ulti still invisible, deto *BOOM* (still not much visible) with spamming 1 aoe, after this thanks ulti finally is good visible but to late, dead.....thanks vampier you cant see this 1 second of attack, you can do anything when you dont see anyting.

when stamina ganging on you he just jumping on you and now you see him, thanks you can see him, and from maybe ambush it isnt 10k+ hit you can fast break free, then 2nd hitt, you still have around 50% health or only 20%, but in this moment you rolldodging and you are not attacking by any aoe etc, you just doding all attact in this moent and you can now block/heal fast and situation is under control if you have good reflex with breaking free

Lexxypwns · January 2016

It's worth noting that I'm more scared of a stamblade using invis bats than a mag blade... those invis bats surprise attacks are absolutely brutal