New Nord racial restructuring and DK skills

americansteel
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A Frost magic bonus? Frost Mage. gives Nords bonus damage with Frost abilities.
Current healing bonus?
Buff DB and lava whip.
what you think?
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  • dday3six
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    There isn't a class that overly supports frost damage, and it only without an increase to magicka would be very appealing. Also only a few abilities covert to frost damage based your staff and using an Inferno staff is generally better. If Nords did get a bump to their racials, I'd prefer something with more broad applications.
  • Volkodav
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    They need to rework their looks as well. XD
  • Mojmir
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    mimic the frosty ogres in wrothgar,some cool abilities there, totally would roll a nord cryomancer
  • RoyJade
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    A boost to frost damage ? Very good idea, with more frost damage in the game.
    I would love a cryomancer too.
  • Artjuh90
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    nord always have had a higher forst resist. don't make it extra frost damage ......
    breaks lore same like the post the other day about bretons....
  • Mojmir
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    Artjuh90 wrote: »
    nord always have had a higher forst resist. don't make it extra frost damage ......
    breaks lore same like the post the other day about bretons....

    dunmer have flame talent as well as fire resist? how is that lore breaking if nord have talent with something they grew up surrounded by?
  • RoyJade
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    But Nord are warrior, not especially magician. Resistance to frost but no affinity with frost.
    Dunmer are magician (and warrior, but less than Nord), they grew up with flame, a boost and a resistance seem good for them.

    If we speak only about lore, he's right.

    But Nord really need a boost.
  • Artjuh90
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    Mojmir wrote: »
    Artjuh90 wrote: »
    nord always have had a higher forst resist. don't make it extra frost damage ......
    breaks lore same like the post the other day about bretons....

    dunmer have flame talent as well as fire resist? how is that lore breaking if nord have talent with something they grew up surrounded by?

    because they never had + frost damage, dumner always had that with fire because their natural affinity with fire AND destruction magic
  • ShadowDisciple
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    RoyJade wrote: »
    But Nord are warrior, not especially magician. Resistance to frost but no affinity with frost.
    Dunmer are magician (and warrior, but less than Nord), they grew up with flame, a boost and a resistance seem good for them.

    If we speak only about lore, he's right.

    But Nord really need a boost.

    nord needs a 10% max stamina and thats it.... they are warriors, robust and mighty...stamina increase is a natural choice...This way tanking/stam dps is valid options
  • kirk_lewis_ESO
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    Mojmir wrote: »
    Artjuh90 wrote: »
    nord always have had a higher forst resist. don't make it extra frost damage ......
    breaks lore same like the post the other day about bretons....

    dunmer have flame talent as well as fire resist? how is that lore breaking if nord have talent with something they grew up surrounded by?

    Nords don't particularly like magic. They're hardy people that got accustomed to the harsh cold in skyrim which explains the cold resistance. If you're stickly about lore (most of the TES people probably are), cold damage would bother you. Elves have a natural affinity to magic. Would be fun though.
    Edited by kirk_lewis_ESO on January 23, 2016 10:56AM
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  • RoyJade
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    We need vampires to have a boost in cold damage :p

    Nord with more stamina is only justice.
    But we seriously need more frost damage in the game, both for players and against players.
  • Artjuh90
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    RoyJade wrote: »
    We need vampires to have a boost in cold damage :p

    Nord with more stamina is only justice.
    But we seriously need more frost damage in the game, both for players and against players.

    true still don't get why NB siphoning skilline doesn't use frost, could have been perfect for it
  • Strider_Roshin
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    To be honest, Nords generally dislike magic. To have racial passives that support a caster play style wouldn't make sense. They pride themselves on fighting drunk. I'm personally happy with how Nords are currently, but if they wanted to give them a buff you won't hear me complaining ;-)
  • americansteel
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    To be honest, Nords generally dislike magic. To have racial passives that support a caster play style wouldn't make sense. They pride themselves on fighting drunk. I'm personally happy with how Nords are currently, but if they wanted to give them a buff you won't hear me complaining ;-)

    redguard nords and orsiMER dislike magic, yet all ES races use magic including imperials. every race has menders and mages according to ES lore.
    with CP i think racial passives are not essential. just a thought for nord.
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  • ShadowDisciple
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    To be honest, Nords generally dislike magic. To have racial passives that support a caster play style wouldn't make sense. They pride themselves on fighting drunk. I'm personally happy with how Nords are currently, but if they wanted to give them a buff you won't hear me complaining ;-)

    redguard nords and orsiMER dislike magic, yet all ES races use magic including imperials. every race has menders and mages according to ES lore.
    with CP i think racial passives are not essential. just a thought for nord.

    lol...how is that explain pls...10% max stamina is 10% max stamina...no amount of CP can make that even..its a flat increase in damage and resource pool...lol
  • CaptainObvious
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    So how about a racial active ability?
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  • Strider_Roshin
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    To be honest, Nords generally dislike magic. To have racial passives that support a caster play style wouldn't make sense. They pride themselves on fighting drunk. I'm personally happy with how Nords are currently, but if they wanted to give them a buff you won't hear me complaining ;-)

    redguard nords and orsiMER dislike magic, yet all ES races use magic including imperials. every race has menders and mages according to ES lore.
    with CP i think racial passives are not essential. just a thought for nord.

    I know, I'm just saying that it wouldn't make sense for Nords to be natural spell casters. Considering their disdain towards it.
  • americansteel
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    yet my nord stam pulls higher dps than my fiiends nord both V16 same gear i have higher CP. LOL
    my WB and Snipe abilities hit the hardest than any of my guild members using bosmer and reguards. LOL
    My nord templar punc sweep and dark flares hit harder than any templar high elf breton or dunmer in my guild at V16.LOL
    My Nord templars darkflares hit harder than my friends sorc CF using high elf, im constantly 3 shotting ppl with dark flareLOL
    CP unforunately are buffs to abilities.
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  • Zinaroth
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    I don't give a *** about what is lore friendly and what is not. Nords need an offense orientated buff. Stamina would fit well with the race. End of story.
    Edited by Zinaroth on January 23, 2016 10:24PM
  • Joshuagm1991
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    That's a good idea, but according to lore Nord generally don't use magic, but have a resistance to frost because of their climate.

    Nord traits are pretty spot in right now.

    Argonians however, are a problem. They are "good" at guerilla warfare. Don't see anything on their traits for that.
  • TX12001rwb17_ESO
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    Mojmir wrote: »
    Artjuh90 wrote: »
    nord always have had a higher forst resist. don't make it extra frost damage ......
    breaks lore same like the post the other day about bretons....

    dunmer have flame talent as well as fire resist? how is that lore breaking if nord have talent with something they grew up surrounded by?

    Nords don't particularly like magic. They're hardy people that got accustomed to the harsh cold in skyrim which explains the cold resistance. If you're stickly about lore (most of the TES people probably are), cold damage would bother you. Elves have a natural affinity to magic. Would be fun though.
    "Nords don't particularly like magic."
    your thinking of 4th era Nords not 2nd era Nords, hell Shaldior is a Nord and he is one of the most powerful mages in history and he is one of the main characters in the mages guild questline.

  • mr_wazzabi
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    The nord is actually very easy to fix.

    Robust should be completely redone to be 6% stam and 12% stam recovery.

    Nords will be one of the best melee dps and tank races with this.

    They already have 9% health and damage reduction. Useless health recovery just needs to become useful stamina pool and regen.
    Edited by mr_wazzabi on January 24, 2016 12:17AM
    Bosmer Stamina NB
    Altmer Magicka TEMP
    Dunmer DK both stam/mag (depends what I feel like)
    Altmer Magicka NB
    Breton Magicka Sorc
    Redguard Stam Sorc
    Max CP
  • IcyDeadPeople
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    I'd prefer to see the existing bonuses for Nord buffed a bit, rather than adding max stamina and stam recovery.

    The mechanics are a lot more interesting when there are 8 different races with each bringing something unique to the table. Right now, Nord and Argonian are not as popular, but imagine if the 6% damage reduction were boosted. At some point (maybe 10%, 12% or 15%), it becomes a really noticeable difference. Same for Argonian potion and healing passives.
  • LBC_Demon
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    I am a Nord and I find the passives to be fine. I am very happy with a boost to health and less damage taken.
  • Soris
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    Damn you op, I just thought they released the patch notes and buffed nords for a second.
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  • americansteel
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    Soris wrote: »
    Damn you op, I just thought they released the patch notes and buffed nords for a second.

    HAHAHAHAHA one can only hope but still no ETA
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  • daswahnsinn
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    I think they should re-work the two-handed training buff and change to damage or something like that. But even that would pose issues.
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  • ShadowDisciple
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    LBC_Demon wrote: »
    I am a Nord and I find the passives to be fine. I am very happy with a boost to health and less damage taken.

    you know ill burst you down before you even notice your passives working??

    also if you dont pvp than your opinion is rendered moot...pve is quite easy and bassically any race/class combo works for bassically everything
  • LBC_Demon
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    LBC_Demon wrote: »
    I am a Nord and I find the passives to be fine. I am very happy with a boost to health and less damage taken.

    you know ill burst you down before you even notice your passives working??

    also if you dont pvp than your opinion is rendered moot...pve is quite easy and bassically any race/class combo works for bassically everything

    Oh thanks. I thought I had an opinion but I must have been mistaken.
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