Balanced PVP wasnt never the plan, ESO is mass/zerg kind of game, but some players are just persistent.

I'm not sure what people are talking about when they say a class isn't balanced.
For example, if this wasn't based around team play, maybe I would understand, but it is.

For someone to tell me it's unbalanced then i can only take that as them thinking that a team of 4 nightblades should beat a team of one sorc, one nb, one Dk and a temp. But that is not the case, the later has tons more sustain and options in combat.
If people mean that each class should have all the tools of the others then they can GTFO. Why would I want to play another class if they bring carbon copy skills and options to each fight. I just don't get it.

If a proper group gets together in PvP and everyone has a proper role and they can all act together... yes, the classes are balanced - especially when everyone has a decently thought out build with the right set armor, etc.

Problem is in PvP, most groups are like "see battle... must run to battle... free for all" - In this, beyond true healers and true dps, there will never be "balance"

I'd love to see/be apart of a battle between two large groups where people actually had roles beyond scout, thought went into battle actions, etc.

Its hard to have balance when half your skills are glitching out on you. I can't tell you how many times my skillbars have locked up because of toppling charge. There is a reason I moved away from playing a magicka templar, and the charge is probably #1 on that list, but hardly the beginnings of my complaints with the class. In theory Templar is wonderful, but in practice its a one trick pony that spits out purges (which anyone can do) and breath of life (the only unique thing about the class really). We also lost our only AoE cc because people whined about Templar damage output, and I think part of those complaints were because of problems with the Dawn's Wrath skill line. Take Enduring rays for instance, which has been a known problem for quite some time. Putting skill points in this passive actually makes multiple skills WORSE. Eclipse is treated as a cc even though it is not, thereby hampering the ability to dps. etc etc. I don't want to push every point home, but like I said its hard to say the classes are balanced when half a class' skill lines are broken or not working as intended. I like the positive spin and all, but just like Lemon Aerosol Spray in the guest bathroom, it doesn't really hide the stink does it?

JoseDelgadoCub17_ESO wrote: »

Especially for a game that doesn't really homogenize the classes.


you can disagree but the fact is no MMO has 100% class balance unless they are incredibly homogenized.

So I feel like ZOS is balancing the classes pretty well.

Kappa

posts like these make me miss the LOL-botton so much

I feel like OP doesn't know what balance is.

I'm sure the 60+ pages of notes Gina is bragging about doesn't have a single balance change because game is so balanced, amiright?

you must either be new here or have never been in Cyrodil

The fact that people argue so passionately about balance says that balance is close enough to drive that kind of competitiveness.

Imagine if there were no issues with skills or classes being called out in-game or on the forums. What would that say about game state really?

Which class do you want to play?

NB?
NB?
NB?
NB?

It's a video game, apologizes I do not have extreme ANGER. Wish I had those problems.

Only stating my opinion, I didn't say the game was completely balanced. Glad I upset you for the rest of the week tho.

BalticBlues wrote: »

This game probably has the worst "balance" I saw in 30 years PvP:

If you ever played a f2p/p2w MMO, you be of a different opinion lol. Everyone playing the new p2w class with gear they spent a months salary on so they can oneshot "noobs" that didn't feel like paying.

But for sure, if we're talking more cultivated games that costs money, than ESO balance is one of the worse. With a meta that keeps changing giving us new overlords every 6-10 month.

In their defence, I think it's much harder to achieve decent balance here. Classes in ESO aren't restricted to only using their own skill tree, passives or specific class itemization. So many more variables to consider in ESO, if you want to avoid overtuned builds.

Argonians need a nerf. Swimming racial is OP.

Alcast wrote: »

Which class do you want to play?

NB?
NB?
NB?
NB?

And here I thought my game was bugged. Well, now I can submit a ticket to ZOS. I was somehow able to select Templar when I first started playing.