ESO on consoles dying?

KundaliniHero · January 2016

attackjet wrote: »

Ya, as to what every one else says, PlayStation 4 sucks go throw that piece of junk into a fire and shoot it a couple times. Xbox is of course doing well on its population for eso and is much better.

Yeah, I guess I kinda can believe that. I love my PS always have but lately they as a company have been ***. I just wish I could transfer my 7 characters over...

KundaliniHero · January 2016

Nova Sky wrote: »

People have also been predicting ESO's demise on the PC/Mac since it launched in April 2014.

Yeah Im not trying to sound the chariots of doom just a little bummed with all the standing around waiting, its uh not very fun. If they would allow being qued in group finder while in the sewers and/or Cyrodill I wouldnt be as annoyed.

Moonscythe · January 2016

I'm on Xbox and have alts in all three alliances on both servers. I find that the early cities are crowded and out in the wilderness it just depends on the time of day. I finally got my act together on an Altmer in Auridon and was trying to finish everything there before moving on. I had trouble closing the final dolmen because I couldn't do it alone and it took several tries before there were a couple of others to help. I need to return later for the Nestmother because she keeps killing me when I'm by myself. This was playing evenings on NA. On the other hand I've found Stonefalls to be very busy in the evenings. I haven't played on EU since before Christmas and i don't much like Daggerfall so I rarely play there.

I play in fits and spurts though. I got Inquisition for Christmas and had never finished Origin or even started DA II so I've been doing that a lot lately. I'll go back to ESO though. Unless everyone else convinces themselves the game is dead and goes away it will still be there when I get back. I don't PvP and like to take my time about things so I don't group either.

GreenSoup2HoT · January 2016

Want's the point in playing eso atm when it's in it's worst state ever. I'm literally on the forum's more then eso. I'm just waiting and waiting for patch note's to really see if i should call it quit's or not. This game need's a lot of work and it's a shame so much of the community's input is disregarded. I'm not trying to say Zos doesn't see are feed back but they hardly take any of are feedback into consideration when making change's. We get pts patches and hardly any of the feedback we give get's implemented or used to push tweak's and change's. Pts is just like a test round for some minor bug's and it get's implemented anyway.

It's really a waiting until there's improvement's.

driosketch · January 2016

QuebraRegra wrote: »

JD2013 wrote: »

http://blog.us.playstation.com/2016/01/20/playstation-stores-top-downloads-of-2015/

Nope.

Not sure what's implied by that... Big difference between DLing, and continuing to play after you "experience" the game. Plenty of friends had the game, and dumped it.. Not sure what it would take to bring them back.

Maybe referring to ESO Plus being 3rd on the add-on list?

jowww97 · January 2016

I'm on ps4 and I also see fewer people playing. My main character is EP, so I am in the most populated alliance (I think), cyrodiil is as laggy as always, azura is unplayable and sewers are almost always empty

Taemethius · January 2016

Ps4 na ad pvp in scourge. Plenty of action.

Peel_Ya_Cap_517 · January 2016

Xbox NA seems to be highly populated and active. Two constant pop-locked campaigns and dozens of players waiting around the Undaunted Enclave and Mournhold at any given time.

Elhanan · January 2016

It actually seems like the population has grown over the holidays. A lot more active players online at any given time in my guild, at least.

I'm glad to say it looks like ESO is thriving for PS4.

Tholian1 · January 2016

The percentages for the achievement trophies on PS4 aren't that great. I would have expected them to be higher than they are by now.

MikeB · January 2016

RatedChaotic wrote: »

MikeB wrote: »

People stating the population is strong in PvP have to remember they closed a lot of campaigns. So people are playing in the only campaigns available. That's why the pop is still sorta strong in PvP.

In my experience the pop is much less on Xbox1 NA. I say this because guild traders all over that used to have tons of items now have little to nothing or nothing at all.

So you based your assumptions on traders? lol. We had many new players join our guild because of the free weekend. Your assumptions are wrong.

Yes. Traders are way more reliable for judging pop than PvP. When the game first came out on XB1 there wasn't a trader in the game without items. Now there are dead traders in popular areas and at most only 1-2 traders full. Before every trader in popular areas were full and traders in the middle of no where were full. Now the traders off the beaten path are empty, no one even bids on them.

revonine · January 2016

Tholian1 wrote: »

The percentages for the achievement trophies on PS4 aren't that great. I would have expected them to be higher than they are by now.

Pure platinum hunters would pick an easier game to 100%. ESO requires a considerable time investment.

Tholian1 · January 2016

revonine wrote: »

Tholian1 wrote: »

The percentages for the achievement trophies on PS4 aren't that great. I would have expected them to be higher than they are by now.

Pure platinum hunters would pick an easier game to 100%. ESO requires a considerable time investment.

Well perhaps, but most of the achievements are earned just by playing and without trying to get them. For example, only 11.5% of players have reached level 50. 12.6% have become a recruit in the alliance war. 11% have spent their first champion point.

Maybe the stats are broken and not updating properly?

revonine · January 2016

Tholian1 wrote: »

revonine wrote: »

Tholian1 wrote: »

The percentages for the achievement trophies on PS4 aren't that great. I would have expected them to be higher than they are by now.

Pure platinum hunters would pick an easier game to 100%. ESO requires a considerable time investment.

Well perhaps, but most of the achievements are earned just by playing and without trying to get them.

True, but the one's that aren't off the top of my head, Emperor, fishing and SO. I've only seen one person with Master Angler on my server, but there's former emps everywhere.

Korah_Eaglecry · January 2016

GreenSoup2HoT wrote: »

Want's the point in playing eso atm when it's in it's worst state ever. I'm literally on the forum's more then eso. I'm just waiting and waiting for patch note's to really see if i should call it quit's or not. This game need's a lot of work and it's a shame so much of the community's input is disregarded. I'm not trying to say Zos doesn't see are feed back but they hardly take any of are feedback into consideration when making change's. We get pts patches and hardly any of the feedback we give get's implemented or used to push tweak's and change's. Pts is just like a test round for some minor bug's and it get's implemented anyway.

It's really a waiting until there's improvement's.

You obviously werent here during the launch on PC or you wouldnt be spewing this nonsense. The game is far from its worst point.

Funkopotamus · January 2016

Well I for one do believe so.

I had taken a l0ooong break from ESO. I had not logged into the game but ONE time since Sept. I only canceled my ESO+ membership on Dec. 13th by calling Microsoft and stopping the monthly charge going through on the 14th.

After sitting and thinking about it and reading about the upcoming changes to CP's and then hearing that ZOS finally came to their senses and are going to be adding TEXT CHAT to the consoles I have recently been trying to play again.

Upon first logging in I was happy to be back, but after only 5 days I have come to think that those things that I and many others on these forums BEGGED to be addressed are just too late.. It honestly makes me sad to see the game as ?"Depopulated" as it is. I came back thinking that Christmas sales would have been a boon for this games population. Sadly that is not the case here.

ESO has had so many things wrong with it that were never addressed or are being addressed just to late to stem the loss of its lifeblood. There are a few people on these forums that basically attacked people like myself and others that tried to explain why text chat was needed, or why the CP system would only run most of the player base away. We tried to explain exactly why Text Chat needed to be in this game and we also tried to explain that a broken run away CP system was nothing short of a death sentence for ESO..

Well...... I hope those few people are happy they were able to sway ZOS long enough to cost the franchise its population. But in the end those changes are STILL going to be made.

I said it back in August that IF console ESO servers were still live a year from then that text chat would be in this game, and the broken CP system were going to be removed or reworked with a cap. Problem is that most people have all, but given up on those changes and might not be like me and even care enough about the game to check back and see that ZOS is trying to do the RIGHT thing.. THE THINGS THAT SHOULD HAVE BEEN DONE FROM DAY ONE!

dlepi24 · January 2016

Just remove "on consoles" from your title, please.

Funkopotamus · January 2016

Wanted to add that this brings to mind a post that I made over on the NW console forums that speaks roughly about population loss and other issues.

Long story short companies that are trying to wade into the Console MMO market are seriously misjudging the console players desires, wants and needs!

Companies seem to be underestimating the console players willingness to GRIND! There are even PC elitist that seem to think that console players were all children with no attention span and willingness to play a challenging MMO! Sadly companies themselves have been taken off guard because of this thinking and therefore have "Watered down" content and gameplay thinking that the console market was not ready for MMO's.

Cryptic over at NW responded to this by yanking mob numbers and in some cases flat out REMOVING content from the game because people were able to basically "outgrind" the cash shop. Anyone still playing NW will tell you that up until recently it was fairly easy to gear out a character without resorting to the CS. Players were able to farm for everything and do so QUICKLY. So fast that Cryptic simply nerfed grinding spots and in some cases flat out REMOVAL of dungeons to slow the console players down.

Same can be said with ESO in some areas.

Today companies need to rethink the console player base and understand that we do not want the game to be too easy! We do not like it when we are told we cannot communicate via text chat box. The CP system being addressed is great! But I cannot help, but feel like ZOS was taken off guard by exactly how fast we the players maxed out multiple toons are screaming for content.

I just hope that GW2 or RIFT or whatever decides to be the next console port does not make the mistake of aiming to low for the console players and do not make the mistake of underestimating the console players willingness to grind and basically enjoy the things that make MMO great and for GOD SAKES! Do NOT water the game down because you think consoles are not ready for MMO;s If nothing else can come out of the mess that ESO has been over these past months let it please be that

CONSOLE PLAYERS ARE S-T-A-R-V-I-N-G! For decent MMO's!

Sausage · January 2016

Ive just recently started to see more and more new trait 9 crafters appearing daily. I think its good indicators of loyal players who are going to stay long.

Spottswoode · January 2016

Another one of these threads?

KingYogi415 · January 2016

JD2013 wrote: »

http://blog.us.playstation.com/2016/01/20/playstation-stores-top-downloads-of-2015/

Nope.

More people pay for ESO plus then bought the BO3 season pass, that is amazing.

in ps4 NA I seem to see more people in Gratwood everyday. On my pledges more often then not I am matched with people 200 plus cp and brease through. Most of the time people can self sustian and I can dps most of the time instead of just heal.

the last 3 times I joined azura's star someone was waiting to invite me to a 20 person group.

A couple months ago this game was bearly breathing. ZOS has done an amazing job with the playerbase and time vs. reward.

revonine · January 2016

Korah_Eaglecry wrote: »

GreenSoup2HoT wrote: »

Want's the point in playing eso atm when it's in it's worst state ever. I'm literally on the forum's more then eso. I'm just waiting and waiting for patch note's to really see if i should call it quit's or not. This game need's a lot of work and it's a shame so much of the community's input is disregarded. I'm not trying to say Zos doesn't see are feed back but they hardly take any of are feedback into consideration when making change's. We get pts patches and hardly any of the feedback we give get's implemented or used to push tweak's and change's. Pts is just like a test round for some minor bug's and it get's implemented anyway.

It's really a waiting until there's improvement's.

You obviously werent here during the launch on PC or you wouldnt be spewing this nonsense. The game is far from its worst point.

"well it was worse" isn't really a very good excuse for the state it's currently in. Each new round of patches generates new bugs even since console launch. Battle spirit bug coming soon to consoles please enjoy. Unacceptable.

Funkopotamus · January 2016

revonine wrote: »

Korah_Eaglecry wrote: »

GreenSoup2HoT wrote: »

Want's the point in playing eso atm when it's in it's worst state ever. I'm literally on the forum's more then eso. I'm just waiting and waiting for patch note's to really see if i should call it quit's or not. This game need's a lot of work and it's a shame so much of the community's input is disregarded. I'm not trying to say Zos doesn't see are feed back but they hardly take any of are feedback into consideration when making change's. We get pts patches and hardly any of the feedback we give get's implemented or used to push tweak's and change's. Pts is just like a test round for some minor bug's and it get's implemented anyway.

It's really a waiting until there's improvement's.

You obviously werent here during the launch on PC or you wouldnt be spewing this nonsense. The game is far from its worst point.

"well it was worse" isn't really a very good excuse for the state it's currently in. Each new round of patches generates new bugs even since console launch. Battle spirit bug coming soon to consoles please enjoy. Unacceptable.

Well TBH I have been playing MMO's since EQ/AC betas so I do not mind getting new bugs with new patches! But you are correct in saying that to continue to see bugs not being addressed is tiresome. ESO Is without a doubt a mind-blowingly BEAUTIFUL game. There is potential here...... ZOS have finally woken up and realized that players do want/NEED text chat, ZOS has also seen that the CP runaway system was a death sentence and yes they are going to do something about those two and I am actually back playing the game due to the news of those upcoming changes!

I myself can live with a few bugs, but I do hope that after the things that should have been addressed before or shortly after release are out of the way then maybe ZOS can stop scrambling to cram in things that should have happened already and actually have the time to focus of fixing bugs. The above two have driven more people away from ESO than ANY "bugs" I would bet.

Spottswoode · January 2016

revonine wrote: »

Korah_Eaglecry wrote: »

GreenSoup2HoT wrote: »

Want's the point in playing eso atm when it's in it's worst state ever. I'm literally on the forum's more then eso. I'm just waiting and waiting for patch note's to really see if i should call it quit's or not. This game need's a lot of work and it's a shame so much of the community's input is disregarded. I'm not trying to say Zos doesn't see are feed back but they hardly take any of are feedback into consideration when making change's. We get pts patches and hardly any of the feedback we give get's implemented or used to push tweak's and change's. Pts is just like a test round for some minor bug's and it get's implemented anyway.

It's really a waiting until there's improvement's.

You obviously werent here during the launch on PC or you wouldnt be spewing this nonsense. The game is far from its worst point.

"well it was worse" isn't really a very good excuse for the state it's currently in. Each new round of patches generates new bugs even since console launch. Battle spirit bug coming soon to consoles please enjoy. Unacceptable.

Bugs pretty much come with patches in MMOs. There's a reason that pretty much every MMO has a persistent patch team. It's not greed or laziness.

Anilahation · January 2016

There are more people on Xbox one then PC, I have both.

Roberts3393 · January 2016

KundaliniHero wrote: »

Ive been playing since launch on PS4 and have noticed a significant drop of players in my faction (Daggerfall). Granted I understand with the recent game releases ie; Fallout 4, Black Ops etc. people are going to play other games however it feels like there has been a significant exodus as I have noticed the undaunted area is usually pretty empty these days, to the point where getting a group is kinda ridiculous. The group finder tool although inefficient and sometimes just plain *** works to some extent but I cant help but think that this decline in players is a direct expression of the current state of the game.

Is this just a Daggerfall thing or have other factions noticed this decline as well?

They have all realised that AD is the better one to be in so they rolled again

Buffler · January 2016

Being honest, some of you are chatting utter nonsense on this thread. Maybe give the samaritans a call.

Sunah · January 2016

Xbox going strong with plenty of people. If anyone is looking for a chill guild just send me a message here or hit me up on xbox GT - Sunah Yhisa.

revonine · January 2016

Spottswoode wrote: »

revonine wrote: »

Korah_Eaglecry wrote: »

GreenSoup2HoT wrote: »

Want's the point in playing eso atm when it's in it's worst state ever. I'm literally on the forum's more then eso. I'm just waiting and waiting for patch note's to really see if i should call it quit's or not. This game need's a lot of work and it's a shame so much of the community's input is disregarded. I'm not trying to say Zos doesn't see are feed back but they hardly take any of are feedback into consideration when making change's. We get pts patches and hardly any of the feedback we give get's implemented or used to push tweak's and change's. Pts is just like a test round for some minor bug's and it get's implemented anyway.

It's really a waiting until there's improvement's.

You obviously werent here during the launch on PC or you wouldnt be spewing this nonsense. The game is far from its worst point.

"well it was worse" isn't really a very good excuse for the state it's currently in. Each new round of patches generates new bugs even since console launch. Battle spirit bug coming soon to consoles please enjoy. Unacceptable.

Bugs pretty much come with patches in MMOs. There's a reason that pretty much every MMO has a persistent patch team. It's not greed or laziness.

Bugs that are squashed in a timely manner. Sometimes with emergency maintenance. Not the case here, we have to wait for the next major update if we're lucky

Sausage · January 2016

Sausage wrote: »

Ive just recently started to see more and more new trait 9 crafters appearing daily. I think its good indicators of loyal players who are going to stay long.

Im gonna reply to my own post, but now it'd be good time to bring new crafting style to the game, to welcome new console players and why couldnt housing have somekind of offline progression system too.