What I found more curious was "Level 56", I guess that is just a result of it being data from a time a different level system altogether was considered.

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

Just to debunk any speculation, we do not currently have plans to add capes or cloaks into the game. The items datamined above are just extremely old items before the game was released that were never fully removed from the database (but they will be in a future patch now!). Sorry to burst any bubbles.

Why were they removed? More customization options are never bad and eso could use more

Gidorick wrote: »

I seem to recall reading it was because of clipping issues.

In order to make capes and cloaks work would WELL you'd have to either plan to use proper physics to animate them (which is highly processor intensive) or give them pre-designed animations, which never quite look right because they have to compensate for every single armor design in one model. The other option is to make unique cloak designs for each and every single model/motif style, and animate them all to fit that model to avoid massive clipping issues. And short of using a physics engine they'll never quite look right.

Now imagine you have 50+ of them on screen, and performance will start to dive.

When a game can't even manage simple cloth simulation in 2016 without overtaxing it, then there is a serious lack of effort on the part of the devs. To simply give up on something so aesthetically obvious is just laughable. EQ2 introduced passible cloaks in 2006 on a game that was already 2 years old. The reason for not including it, like many other things I speculate, is that they simply didn't have time. Anyone who has played this game since beta knows that it was a rush job to try and recoup some of the losses. It still amuses everytime somone asks for it that we get at least 3 idiotic Incredibles posting, as though we are all in danger of getting sucked into a jet engine. The fact remains that cloaks/capes are the simplest and oldest form of garment humans invented. Additionally they are very practical and can even convey status. Also they are not new to Elder Scrolls; even the most recent TES game. The Nightengale armor had a small cloak and modders were able to include many good looking cloaks and they weren't even paid for it.

JD2013 wrote: »

No they aren't, and it's to do with the physics engine. They would only add to the lag as they wouldn't be like they are in WoW etc. And tbh, Cloaks and Capes have never been a real part of any ES title ever, save for mods. So no cloaks and capes is good with me.

Just because capes and cloaks haven't been a main part of the core concept and environment in the ES series except... oh that's right.... Just almost every single statue that is present in their games. Besides since when has there ever been something wrong with presenting something new? There's already lag on occasions, and it's not even constant. Yet if there is going to be lag, it might as well be there for a good reason. Bring on the capes and cloaks ZoS. Don't listen to the nay sayers that live to be pedantic skeptics.

Gidorick wrote: »

Snowstrider wrote: »

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

Just to debunk any speculation, we do not currently have plans to add capes or cloaks into the game. The items datamined above are just extremely old items before the game was released that were never fully removed from the database (but they will be in a future patch now!). Sorry to burst any bubbles.

Why were they removed? More customization options are never bad and eso could use more

I seem to recall reading it was because of clipping issues.

I guess thats the reason. I mean the armor in game are really floaty and has lots of clipping issues Also floating shields and weapons on your back.. eso did not do well on armor,weapons and clothing such shame since older games and other new mmos can do better

Ethromelb14_ESO wrote: »

JD2013 wrote: »

No they aren't, and it's to do with the physics engine. They would only add to the lag as they wouldn't be like they are in WoW etc. And tbh, Cloaks and Capes have never been a real part of any ES title ever, save for mods. So no cloaks and capes is good with me.

Just because capes and cloaks haven't been a main part of the core concept and environment in the ES series except... oh that's right.... Just almost every single statue that is present in their games. Besides since when has there ever been something wrong with presenting something new? There's already lag on occasions, and it's not even constant. Yet if there is going to be lag, it might as well be there for a good reason. Bring on the capes and cloaks ZoS. Don't listen to the nay sayers that live to be pedantic skeptics.

So, if they did and it added more lag, you wouldn't come on here and complain! Right . . . ?

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

Just to debunk any speculation, we do not currently have plans to add capes or cloaks into the game. The items datamined above are just extremely old items before the game was released that were never fully removed from the database (but they will be in a future patch now!). Sorry to burst any bubbles.

Thanks..

Yet another shot to how Datamining is useless..

There is already cloth simulation on that part of the tunic that hangs down the front in virtually all of the chest pieces they included. It can be done, they just don't feel like putting in the effort.

Salmonleap wrote: »

Yeah capes, because what ESO needs is yet another source of lag. /smh

They can take away the pointless cod flaps they decided to add in then.

WalkingLegacy wrote: »

Pretty sure you can log into TOR, which utilizes the worst engine in the industry (hero engine) and see 50-100 capes running around on Capitol ship just fine.

If you're gaming on a potatoes or glorified bluray player than I could see maybe some issues with FULL physics capes but not really.

Modern CPUs are more powerful than you give credit.

@WalkingLegacy , Did you know ZOS used the Hero Engine as a sort of "leaning tool" to make the ESO engine?

Gidorick wrote: »

WalkingLegacy wrote: »

Pretty sure you can log into TOR, which utilizes the worst engine in the industry (hero engine) and see 50-100 capes running around on Capitol ship just fine.

If you're gaming on a potatoes or glorified bluray player than I could see maybe some issues with FULL physics capes but not really.

Modern CPUs are more powerful than you give credit.

@WalkingLegacy , Did you know ZOS used the Hero Engine as a sort of "leaning tool" to make the ESO engine?

Yes, and I'm pretty sure their 'custom' engine is just a highly modified hero engine.

Gidorick wrote: »

WalkingLegacy wrote: »

Pretty sure you can log into TOR, which utilizes the worst engine in the industry (hero engine) and see 50-100 capes running around on Capitol ship just fine.

If you're gaming on a potatoes or glorified bluray player than I could see maybe some issues with FULL physics capes but not really.

Modern CPUs are more powerful than you give credit.

@WalkingLegacy , Did you know ZOS used the Hero Engine as a sort of "leaning tool" to make the ESO engine?

You would think their end result would be an improvement then, not a devolution of a much older engine....