Faction Races = wut

Jules · January 2016

DC - Redguard (stam sustain), Orc (stam damage), Breton (magic sustain)
AD - Bosmer (stam sustain) , High Elf (magic damage) , Khajiit (stam damage)
EP- Nord (frost resistance?), Argonian (swim speed??) , Dunmer (fire damage?)

One of these things is not like the other.

LegendaryChef · January 2016

Explorer pack OP.

Nifty2g · January 2016

AD with the 2 best strongest races

Gonza · January 2016

It really depends of your playstyle. Dunmer can be good as stamina or magicka, Nords as hard as trucks, and Argonian are easily healed.

Passives wont make you better.

Winnamine · January 2016

DC - Redguard (stam sustain, max stam, more stam), Orc (stam damage, sprint speed, max health, max stam, health regen), Breton (magic sustain, max magicka, spell resist)
AD - Bosmer (stam sustain, increase stealth detection, poison and disease resist) , High Elf (magic elemental damage, increase max magicka, magicka regen) , Khajiit (stam damage, health regen, increase stealth detection )
EP- Nord (frost resistance, health regen, damage reduction), Argonian (swim speed, healing received, increase max health, poison and disease resist) , Dunmer (increase max magicka (x2), increase max stam, fire resist (vamps + everyone with the siege changes), fire damage)
In bold, crappy racial passive, which I define as anything you would never want on an armor set/enchant.

Nifty2g · January 2016

whaaaaaaaat dunmer and altmer elemental damage passives are really strong, dunmer is 7% so that's even better than altmer 4%
then again that passive is only selective to sorcs/dragonknights
where the *** is my magic damage passive zos

Aldarenn · January 2016

Winnamine wrote: »

DC - Redguard (stam sustain, max stam, more stam), Orc (stam damage, sprint speed, max health, max stam, health regen), Breton (magic sustain, max magicka, spell resist)
AD - Bosmer (stam sustain, increase stealth detection, poison and disease resist) , High Elf (magic elemental damage, increase max magicka, magicka regen) , Khajiit (stam damage, health regen, increase stealth detection )
EP- Nord (frost resistance, health regen, damage reduction), Argonian (swim speed, healing received, increase max health, poison and disease resist) , Dunmer (increase max magicka (x2), increase max stam, fire resist (vamps + everyone with the siege changes), fire damage)
In bold, crappy racial passive, which I define as anything you would never want on an armor set/enchant.

Try chasing an Orc and telling me that sprint speed sucks.

IxSTALKERxI · January 2016

Orcs are ugly though, that has to count for something.

themdogesbite · January 2016

Well before 1.6 when softcaps was still in every alliance had a very strong race, i mean i was crying for a year about not beeing able to have a Dark Elf DK and beeing stuck with a High elf instead. nowadays though its super important what race you are, it can even make or break a build.. its frustrating.

Jules · January 2016

Winnamine wrote: »

DC - Redguard (stam sustain, max stam, more stam), Orc (stam damage, sprint speed, max health, max stam, health regen), Breton (magic sustain, max magicka, spell resist)
AD - Bosmer (stam sustain, increase stealth detection, poison and disease resist) , High Elf (magic elemental damage, increase max magicka, magicka regen) , Khajiit (stam damage, health regen, increase stealth detection )
EP- Nord (frost resistance, health regen, damage reduction), Argonian (swim speed, healing received, increase max health, poison and disease resist) , Dunmer (increase max magicka (x2), increase max stam, fire resist (vamps + everyone with the siege changes), fire damage)
In bold, crappy racial passive, which I define as anything you would never want on an armor set/enchant.

Agreed. There are some meh passives for most races that I wouldn't want. However, I think for the most part, the EP races are much weaker as they are not BIS races (other than dunmer, arguably for PVE).

And to clarify the only reason I put "magic damage" was because it's a magicka build and that's a widely accepted race for high damage output. Technically, yes it is elemental damage. I was looking more from a Magicka/Stamina & Sustain/Damage perspective than the former.

Pchela · January 2016

all dunmer all the time! dunmer 4lyfe

Junkogen · January 2016

Wrobel doesn't care.

Next question, please.

Ghostbane · January 2016

Prospering · January 2016

Gonza wrote: »

It really depends of your playstyle. Dunmer can be good as stamina or magicka, Nords as hard as trucks, and Argonian are easily healed.

Passives wont make you better.

Wat? races make a huge difference and everyone knows. In the long run a race specifically for your spec will make a huge difference. For example you might have 30k magicka and 1800 regen on an argonian when you can have 34k magicka and 2k regen on a high elf

Mrs_Quietus · January 2016

Jules wrote: »

DC - Redguard (stam sustain), Orc (stam damage), Breton (magic sustain)
AD - Bosmer (stam sustain) , High Elf (magic damage) , Khajiit (stam damage)
EP- Nord (frost resistance?), Argonian (swim speed??) , Dunmer (fire damage?)

One of these things is not like the other.

All you gotta do is give ZOS more of your money $$$
#paytowin

Manoekin · January 2016

Ghostbane wrote: »

The greatest.

KenaPKK · January 2016

Breton spell resistance passive comes up to a little under 4% magic damage mitigation before penetration if I remember correctly from my testing.

Nords get a flat 6% mitigation across the board.

Nord confirmed op, nerf pls and ty.

/sarcasm (mostly)

vortexman11 · January 2016

To all the people that are going to come here to say Nord passives are OP.
No.
Just no.

The only improvement Nord has seen is the increase to that joke of a passive +3% Max Health to 9%... but currently in a game where every single viable build is based around min-maxing having any race with no bonuses to Stamina/Magicka or Stamina/Magicka regen puts it ranked as one of the worst... Even Argonians due to the changes to battlespirit have it better off because their increased healing recieved...

Turtl3Lov3 · January 2016

vortexman11 wrote: »

To all the people that are going to come here to say Nord passives are OP.
No.
Just no.

The only improvement Nord has seen is the increase to that joke of a passive +3% Max Health to 9%... but currently in a game where every single viable build is based around min-maxing having any race with no bonuses to Stamina/Magicka or Stamina/Magicka regen puts it ranked as one of the worst... Even Argonians due to the changes to battlespirit have it better off because their increase healing recieved...

Recremen · January 2016

IxSTALKERxI wrote: »

Orcs are ugly though, that has to count for something.

Orcs are beautiful, Stalker, you shut the mouth!

Junkogen · January 2016

vortexman11 wrote: »

To all the people that are going to come here to say Nord passives are OP.
No.
Just no.

The only improvement Nord has seen is the increase to that joke of a passive +3% Max Health to 9%... but currently in a game where every single viable build is based around min-maxing having any race with no bonuses to Stamina/Magicka or Stamina/Magicka regen puts it ranked as one of the worst... Even Argonians due to the changes to battlespirit have it better off because their increase healing recieved...

Are you seriously trying to say that Nord passives are worse than Argonians? There's just no way that that's close to fair, true, or accurate.

Mumyo · January 2016

Junkogen wrote: »

vortexman11 wrote: »

To all the people that are going to come here to say Nord passives are OP.
No.
Just no.

The only improvement Nord has seen is the increase to that joke of a passive +3% Max Health to 9%... but currently in a game where every single viable build is based around min-maxing having any race with no bonuses to Stamina/Magicka or Stamina/Magicka regen puts it ranked as one of the worst... Even Argonians due to the changes to battlespirit have it better off because their increase healing recieved...

Are you seriously trying to say that Nord passives are worse than Argonians? There's just no way that that's close to fair, true, or accurate.

Dont fight, both are obviously the worst choices u can do but nords look cool!

Brrrofski · January 2016

Winnamine wrote: »

DC - Redguard (stam sustain, max stam, more stam), Orc (stam damage, sprint speed, max health, max stam, health regen), Breton (magic sustain, max magicka, spell resist)
AD - Bosmer (stam sustain, increase stealth detection, poison and disease resist) , High Elf (magic elemental damage, increase max magicka, magicka regen) , Khajiit (stam damage, health regen, increase stealth detection )
EP- Nord (frost resistance, health regen, damage reduction), Argonian (swim speed, healing received, increase max health, poison and disease resist) , Dunmer (increase max magicka (x2), increase max stam, fire resist (vamps + everyone with the siege changes), fire damage)
In bold, crappy racial passive, which I define as anything you would never want on an armor set/enchant.

My Dk is an orc.

Dodge roll with bow then sprint spamming reflect. Good look catching/killing me.

I mean, if I'd have known back then I would have gone redguard. But I couldn't live without my speed now

CITADALO · January 2016

Race doesn't matter if you play in ball groups.

RAGUNAnoOne · January 2016

Nifty2g wrote: »

whaaaaaaaat dunmer and altmer elemental damage passives are really strong, dunmer is 7% so that's even better than altmer 4%
then again that passive is only selective to sorcs/dragonknights
where the *** is my magic damage passive zos

Force pulse 3 elements=12% more powerful skill that any class can use