I dont know how to convince my friend to play with me

WindowsNeverDie · January 2016

Glaiceana wrote: »

You've got to convince him to at least have a go. The fact that he hasn't even tried it is amazing. But you can't nag him all day, because that will just get annoying and he will decide to never try the game. Just say why not at least give it a go, what's there to lose?

I tryed it out yesterday. I said yea you dont play today anymore so you can download the game cant you? We can play a little bit on the weekend and you can delete it if you dont enjoy playing it. But he answered why should I download a so big game that i wont play? I bought a MMO few weeks ago that will come out soon so i wont download that one. He doesnt care that he dont have to pay money for it because I bought it for him he just arguments with the download time then.

WindowsNeverDie · January 2016

Asherons_Call wrote: »

Get him to come over to your house so he can watch you play. Show him the ropes. Make sure to go to some of the more scenic locals. Stay away from the spam of the starter zones. Lol

He wont look at the game. He doesnt even look at screenshots or kritiks for it.

WindowsNeverDie · January 2016

ku5h wrote: »

I have couple of friends that enjoy MMORPGs, and we every month or so revisit idea, "lets play some MMO all together", but i never tell them to come play ESO with me. Why? Because if anyone told me everysingle thing that is good and bad about this game(which i know now after over a year of play time), most probably i wouldnt start playing it at all. I like strong end game, as do my friends, and in this game that is nonexistant, aside from PvP which is just unplayable with absurd lag and 5+min loading screens. On the other had if you enjoy pretty landscape and RPing, then this game is great!

I just dont enjoy playing alone. I hate single player games. And it gives nothing more epic then enjoy the world of The Elder Scrolls together! Thats the reason I try him to play this game. I try him to give the game at least one chance but he ignores it.

WindowsNeverDie · January 2016

But i slowly accept that i dont have a chance.

vamp_emily · January 2016

WindowsNeverDie wrote: »

But i slowly accept that i dont have a chance.

Honestly, from my experience, some times it is harder to play with someone. My friend got me playing the game, and she was really good. I had a hard time keeping up with her and she would get upset because when we were fighting I would die or both of us would die and she would blame me

But if you really want him to play. you can use the "fake it till you make it" method. That is, if your friend is in the room or near you, you can say things outloud like:

"omg, this game is sooo soo awesome"
"This is the best MMO of 2016! Look at all those streamers!"

Kind of brain watch him, then one morning you will wake up and catch him playing it

WindowsNeverDie · January 2016

vamp_emily wrote: »

WindowsNeverDie wrote: »

But i slowly accept that i dont have a chance.

Honestly, from my experience, some times it is harder to play with someone. My friend got me playing the game, and she was really good. I had a hard time keeping up with her and she would get upset because when we were fighting I would die or both of us would die and she would blame me

But if you really want him to play. you can use the "fake it till you make it" method. That is, if your friend is in the room or near you, you can say things outloud like:

"omg, this game is sooo soo awesome"
"This is the best MMO of 2016! Look at all those streamers!"

Kind of brain watch him, then one morning you will wake up and catch him playing it

I am not good at TESO. I said him that Iam not good that it doesnt foces him away from the game. And he isnt the one that switchs his opinion just because someone says something, thats the problem. I think I just have to find someone other who is at a low lvl to play with.

Commish · January 2016

In life people do things for a reason, always.
It may be a serious reason, an impulsive reason, a selfish reason or any other type, but there is always a reason.
Figure out the reason and you will know if you can convince him.

WindowsNeverDie · January 2016

Commish wrote: »

In life people do things for a reason, always.
It may be a serious reason, an impulsive reason, a selfish reason or any other type, but there is always a reason.
Figure out the reason and you will know if you can convince him.

I know the reason. He is stubborn. He always want to be right. He sais Black Desert is the MMO he wants to play and its the best at the moment (only WoW or GW2 can deal with it) and so it is. I can say what i want he is the one who is right in anyway.

failkiwib16_ESO · January 2016

Since you guys go to school together, and know eachother IRL, your bonds are very tight. However, you should maybe consider to play and spend time with other people too, and create new strong bonds.

Hey our community is nice in general, and there are lots of players in here, who wishes to find a partner they can play with. If you don't find a partner for ESO among your real life friends, then maybe you should consider finding one in the game

NewBlacksmurf · January 2016

WindowsNeverDie wrote: »

NewBlacksmurf wrote: »

In the future, I'd suggest to not ever buy someone else something to convince them to enjoy it with you. Perhaps treat the account as an offer for other friend to play with you but you run the account (if that's within our rights per ZOS)

I dont care about the money I wasted on buying him the game he is my best friend i played round about 2000 hours with him in Leage of Legends so the money I invested in the game for the try to convince him to play it isnt that hard for me. Its more about the way he thinks: I have the better MMO so go and play mine! instead of test bouth and play the one that makes more fun at all.

You missed the point. it has nothing to do with money but now that you've spent money, you're having issues.

If you invite someone to join you and they don't want to...you move on. It's your friend so Money can create situations and you're seeking public advice on how to convince a friend to do something they don't want to do. That causes other issues.

let it go and move on, make new friends and keep that one. Its better that way.

How would you feel, if they brought you the other game, and then asked or planned to figure out how to convince you to leave this.

Its not who is right or who is wrong and what game is better, its respecting someone's space and allowing both of you to make your own decisions but keep the relationship as its just a game. Now money can and will break up any relationship as well as plotting to make or force someone to do something they don't want to.

Be wise.....don't do it

WindowsNeverDie · January 2016

failkiwib16_ESO wrote: »

Since you guys go to school together,

We arent in the same school. We live in the same little city and met each other on our confirmation. We dont meet very often in real life. Only a few times if we go to the cinema or watch all scream films at once. Most of the we just hang out and skype together.

NewBlacksmurf wrote: »

You missed the point. it has nothing to do with money but now that you've spent money, you're having issues.

If you invite someone to join you and they don't want to...you move on. It's your friend so Money can create situations and you're seeking public advice on how to convince a friend to do something they don't want to do. That causes other issues.

How would you feel, if they brought you the other game, and then asked or planned to figure out how to convince you to leave this.

Your mostly right but I boughted him the game because at first he said: "I dont want to waste money because I never tryed it. Maybe it sucks and then I wasted my money." I wanted to gift him this as a "free try" for the game. I dont expect that he plays with me all time I just thouth that he gives the game a chance and looks into it for a weekend.
And how I said i boughted me the other game on my own because i just want to try it out with him.

NewBlacksmurf · January 2016

WindowsNeverDie wrote: »

failkiwib16_ESO wrote: »

Since you guys go to school together,

We arent in the same school. We live in the same little city and met each other on our confirmation. We dont meet very often in real life. Only a few times if we go to the cinema or watch all scream films at once. Most of the we just hang out and skype together.

NewBlacksmurf wrote: »

You missed the point. it has nothing to do with money but now that you've spent money, you're having issues.

If you invite someone to join you and they don't want to...you move on. It's your friend so Money can create situations and you're seeking public advice on how to convince a friend to do something they don't want to do. That causes other issues.

How would you feel, if they brought you the other game, and then asked or planned to figure out how to convince you to leave this.

Your mostly right but I boughted him the game because at first he said: "I dont want to waste money because I never tryed it. Maybe it sucks and then I wasted my money." I wanted to gift him this as a "free try" for the game. I dont expect that he plays with me all time I just thouth that he gives the game a chance and looks into it for a weekend.
And how I said i boughted me the other game on my own because i just want to try it out with him.

People are weird aren't they......we all are.

Moonshadow66 · January 2016

Ein Freund von mir ist genauso drauf.. ich versuche schon seit Beta, ihn davon zu überzeugen, ESO zu zocken, aber nein, er hängt lieber in anderen Spielen rum (obwohl er immer wieder betont, was für ein großer TES fan er ist).
Ich gab ihm den Code für das Testwochenende vor ein paar Wochen.. tja, von den 4 Tagen hat er anderthalb genutzt und war dann wieder draußen. Gesehen hab ich ihn nicht im Spiel, aber er hat mir eine Freundesanfrage geschickt, also wusste ich zumindest, dass er tatsächlich da war lol ..
Ansonsten jammert er nur, dass es zu teuer sei und er auf ein günstiges Angebot wartet, die 60% vom Testwochenende waren anscheinend noch nicht günstig genug *rolleyes*..
Und damit lass' ich das dann auch; wenn er nicht will, will er nicht.. zu schade, echt!

WindowsNeverDie · January 2016

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Und damit lass' ich das dann auch; wenn er nicht will, will er nicht.. zu schade, echt!
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Tja, da kann man wohl nicht machen

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jaibierwb17_ESO · January 2016

Your friend sounds very stubborn. Sometimes, if you try too hard to convince a stubborn person of something, they will dig their heels in and hold on tighter to their belief - in this case that he won't enjoy ESO, even with no evidence. You have the best of intentions - you want to enjoy this game with your friend, and you know he will enjoy it if he gives it a chance, but the more you try to convince him, the more determined he is to not like the game, so even if he does play it, he will have already decided to not enjoy it.

I think the only way your friend will allow himself to enjoy ESO, is if he decides to give it a go in his own time. So back off, play the game yourself, make some ingame friends and enjoy! If you also like the other game you can play that with him too, but not all the time - just say, "sorry, tonight is an ESO night" and leave it at that, without trying to convince him to play.
Maybe with time he will decide to give ESO a go, maybe not, but by the sounds of it, you are wasting your time and energy and possibly having the reverse effect by trying to convince him.

RatedChaotic · January 2016

Kinda sounds sounds like my friend. We been gaming for over 20yrs. We got many mmos together including eso. Once we get to group content he bails on me cus he dont group with people he doesnt know in RL. So I just kept playing eso alone then ran into a guild of some really good people. I went from gaming with one to gaming with many. Now he plays Fallout Out 4 alone. Its their loss.

Just keep quiet. Keep playing eso if your enjoying it. He will eventually come around or he wont. There are some really good people here to game and have fun with.

All that matters is that your having fun.

N0TPLAYER2 · January 2016

Dude sounds like a Richard.

Alucardo · January 2016

Tell him to play with you or you'll kill his dog. Worked for me.

Volkodav · January 2016

WindowsNeverDie wrote: »

The problem isnt that he likes "Black Desert" more, it´s that he doesnt give TESO a chance. I bought Black Desert yesterday just because he likes it and i want to give it a chance. And i payed money for black desert and I boughted him TESO so he doesnt need to waste money for the test.

You cant force someone to do what they dont want to do.If your friend has made up their mind about ESO,you wasted your money,I think.He sounds like he wont be budged from his decision.

Caligamy_ESO · January 2016

Decayed_Inside wrote: »

Sounds like he's already made an educated decision. Black Desert looks pretty cool

Boob physics and skimpy outfits, what else is there to a great game?

Lysette · January 2016

WindowsNeverDie wrote: »

NewBlacksmurf wrote: »

In the future, I'd suggest to not ever buy someone else something to convince them to enjoy it with you. Perhaps treat the account as an offer for other friend to play with you but you run the account (if that's within our rights per ZOS)

I dont care about the money I wasted on buying him the game he is my best friend i played round about 2000 hours with him in Leage of Legends so the money I invested in the game for the try to convince him to play it isnt that hard for me. Its more about the way he thinks: I have the better MMO so go and play mine! instead of test bouth and play the one that makes more fun at all.

He might give it a try once he will have found out, that korean games are prone for hacks and cheats due to how they lay out their server-client architecture. Im Korea an account is bound to the ID of the person and anyone cheating or hacking can be banned effectively, if he is korean. That is why these companies put a lot of stuff into the client, which should be in the server software. So they get better performance. But due to this "design", it is open for hacks of all kind.

ESO does not have these flaws - and once he will have found out how *** korean games are gameplay-wise, because of people, who will freeze him with hacks and just kill him, without to give him any chance, he might drop this game and try ESO.

WindowsNeverDie · January 2016

Alucardo wrote: »

Tell him to play with you or you'll kill his dog. Worked for me.

He has nod dog and i love dogs. Iam going to kill his cat.

anitajoneb17_ESO · January 2016

He's your friend but he doesn't like you enough to at least give one look at a game that could allow you 2 to play together ?
You're his friend but you want to force him away from a game he likes to come over to you on a game that you like ?
... define "friends" maybe ?

https://youtu.be/LSGl3d4KOMk

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WindowsNeverDie · January 2016

anitajoneb17_ESO wrote: »

You're his friend but you want to force him away from a game he likes to come over to you on a game that you like ?
... define "friends" maybe ?
https://youtu.be/LSGl3d4KOMk

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I want that he gives the game a try. I dont want that he lea es a game he likes! I bought the game HE likes that we can play it together and i payed him the money for ESO that he can try it out! I dont force him away I just want that he gives this game a chance because he would like it. And if not it wont be worse because at least he gave the game a try.

anitajoneb17_ESO · January 2016

WindowsNeverDie wrote: »

I want that he gives the game a try. I dont want that he lea es a game he likes! I bought the game HE likes that we can play it together and i payed him the money for ESO that he can try it out! I dont force him away I just want that he gives this game a chance because he would like it. And if not it wont be worse because at least he gave the game a try.

Yes I know you mentioned that already.
You gave his game a try, invested into two games (BDO for you, ESO for him) for the sake of playing together.
What did he do ?

Situation looks pretty imbalanced to me. The issue is perhaps more the relationship than ESO. Maybe the situation would be the same with any other game. But again, human relationships are complex and hard to judge just from a few facts over an internet forum.

Spottswoode · January 2016

Threats of arson are usually my go to for forced hangouts. Pizza might also work.

teladoy · January 2016

Black desert will leave this game in worst situation as warhammer online.

WindowsNeverDie · January 2016

teladoy wrote: »

Black desert will leave this game in worst situation as warhammer online.

?
Never played warhammer online

anitajoneb17_ESO wrote: »

But again, human relationships are complex and hard to judge just from a few facts over an internet forum.

Your right but I just wanted some arguments why he should give TESO a try.

anitajoneb17_ESO · January 2016

WindowsNeverDie wrote: »

teladoy wrote: »

Black desert will leave this game in worst situation as warhammer online.

?
Never played warhammer online

anitajoneb17_ESO wrote: »

But again, human relationships are complex and hard to judge just from a few facts over an internet forum.

Your right but I just wanted some arguments why he should give TESO a try.

I'm afraid there is none, at least none directly related to the game. You can lead a horse to water but you can’t make him drink.

Your only chance is to leave him alone with BDO and make your own contacts in ESO. If your friend misses you and feels lonely in BDO, he'll maybe come back to ESO and you and give it a try.

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NeillMcAttack · January 2016

WindowsNeverDie wrote: »

NewBlacksmurf wrote: »

In the future, I'd suggest to not ever buy someone else something to convince them to enjoy it with you. Perhaps treat the account as an offer for other friend to play with you but you run the account (if that's within our rights per ZOS)

I dont care about the money I wasted on buying him the game he is my best friend i played round about 2000 hours with him in League of Legends so the money I invested in the game for the try to convince him to play it isnt that hard for me. Its more about the way he thinks: I have the better MMO so go and play mine! instead of test bouth and play the one that makes more fun at all.

Bingo League of legends is the key here.
Having come from many hours of DOTA i can point out many similarities with the combat here and in MOBA's. Explain to him that each of the classes in ESO can fill all the different roles of champions (except maybe jungle), Tell him that nightblades turn invisible and specialize in initiation and ganking, tell him Dragonknights are the tanks with spammable disables, Templars are the healers with tons of other support abilities, and sorcerers are nukers with high mobility.
Tell him the combat actually functions a lot like a MOBA without the cooldowns, instead enemy players spend stamina to gain a short immunity to most disables to keep combat flowing.

Also try to find your own similarities that appeal to his competitive nature.

Tell him he is really going to miss out on something special if he doesn't give the combat in ESO a try.