When ZOS makes a change they should look at XP earned, not Level.

Dubhliam · January 2016

NewBlacksmurf wrote: »

They are trying to bring more players together instead of keeping them far apart

Exactly, and that is the right thing to do.

pronkg · January 2016

You know the funny thing is, I remember when CP was introduced how people complained about this same thing. Having numerous alts with high level and not getting all the CP. I despised that and you know why? Cause people act as if thy worked hard for it, but in fact they didn't. They didn't know zenimax was gonna implement any of those things or decisions. They started leveling alts knowing they wouldn't gain anything extra, but all of a sudden they are entitled and worked for it... No sorry, that's just begging for free stuff and using entitlement as an excuse.

Enodoc · January 2016

pronkg wrote: »

You know the funny thing is, I remember when CP was introduced how people complained about this same thing. Having numerous alts with high level and not getting all the CP. I despised that and you know why? Cause people act as if thy worked hard for it, but in fact they didn't. They didn't know zenimax was gonna implement any of those things or decisions. They started leveling alts knowing they wouldn't gain anything extra, but all of a sudden they are entitled and worked for it... No sorry, that's just begging for free stuff and using entitlement as an excuse.

If I remember rightly, we did get compensated for alts anyway, up to the cap, didn't we? 70 CP (equivalent to a VR14) was the cap, but you would also get that if you had 2x VR6s and a VR2.

pronkg · January 2016

Enodoc wrote: »

pronkg wrote: »

You know the funny thing is, I remember when CP was introduced how people complained about this same thing. Having numerous alts with high level and not getting all the CP. I despised that and you know why? Cause people act as if thy worked hard for it, but in fact they didn't. They didn't know zenimax was gonna implement any of those things or decisions. They started leveling alts knowing they wouldn't gain anything extra, but all of a sudden they are entitled and worked for it... No sorry, that's just begging for free stuff and using entitlement as an excuse.

If I remember rightly, we did get compensated for alts anyway, up to the cap, didn't we? 70 CP (equivalent to a VR14) was the cap, but you would also get that if you had 2x VR6s and a VR2.

Thats right, but as I said people who had numerous high level alts, for example 3 V14 chars or more you wouldn't get 210 CP.

I was also glad Zenimax was smart enough to do that since everyone was leveling in a broken craglorn where you could get anywhere between 1 and 2 million XP an hour and be V14 in 2 days

Casdha · January 2016

Enodoc wrote: »

Casdha wrote: »

Just remember in the future that you only get credit for doing the content once (Silver and Gold and what ever else comes along)

Who said that? The Champion System may be account wide, but each character will still be able to do the content separately and earn CPs from it. I've got 3 chars to get through Silver and Gold, and I'm waiting for VRs to be removed so that I can take full advantage of getting three rounds of CP from it.

Common sense, what happens when you need that 9th slot and they still don't have them for sale yet.

There were folks that were there at the last conversion. I understand perfectly how this system is going to work and that the points are shared. I hinted at it in another thread.

Hypothetical Example: (just to show a point, numbers should be close but not exact) (As stated before this is not me)

You have been here since the beginning and you have 4 VR16 characters. You got the initial 70 CP and finished leveling your 1st and then leveled 3 more characters. Most of your CP was earned before the catch up mechanic was in place and you are setting with 350 CP ( I basically doubled what I had on 2 characters before the catch up mechanic)

New person who hit VR levels after the catch up mechanic started has 4 VR5 characters. They are sitting at 400 CP
( this is not a stretch as I have gotten 170 points and only made a total of 5 VR levels after catch up mechanic)

VR levels change and we go to full CP -
Old player is level 50 with 350 CP
New Player is level 50 with 400 CP

They are now ahead of the old player.

Now realize that the new player has more content left to level with, the old player has less because they have already finished it on 4 characters.

My initial suggestion only gets folks to the same starting point, it still will not fix the fact that they have more room to move ahead. But with a CP cap in place this should not be an issue.

As for the elite players, they are out of this conversation all together as they are sitting with double to quadruple the current cap already and will instantly be at the cap when it is raised again.