Reverberating Bash skill broken?

arcantonias · January 2016

Just wondering what your opinions are on the skill, its morphs and whether or not you think the hard cc attached to it is considered broken. It seems dks are being called the new "op" pvp class for using a skill available to everyone.

Master_Kas · January 2016

arcantonias wrote: »

Just wondering what your opinions are on the skill, its morphs and whether or not you think the hard cc attached to it is considered broken. It seems dks are being called the new "op" pvp class for using a skill available to everyone.

Nah they are called op because of diffrent things.

Only physical damage ultimate which scales with mighty CP which is cheap.
Ignesious shield (30% healing increased) combined with vigor and rally. Also helping hand passive.

The rev bash is just a bonus. And yeah that skill is buggy as hell.

MaxwellC · January 2016

I did a 1 v 1 against another stam DK (unfortunately i was in 5 med 2 heavy while he was in 2 heavy 2 med) and when it comes to block casting it along with ransack/pierce armor it's pretty damn powerful. You can't heal correctly for 10 seconds when you're under the effect too so that hurts significantly.

I did lose the 1v1 might I add but mainly due to block casting and my 14k resist vs his 30k something resist lol.

Drakilian · January 2016

He was only wearing 4 armour pieces and you still lost? That's just insulting :0

But seriously, yeah, it's harder to break than fear.

arcantonias · January 2016

I fight people who use it and have no problem tho.

Draxys · January 2016

Master_Kas wrote: »

arcantonias wrote: »

Just wondering what your opinions are on the skill, its morphs and whether or not you think the hard cc attached to it is considered broken. It seems dks are being called the new "op" pvp class for using a skill available to everyone.

Nah they are called op because of diffrent things.

Only physical damage ultimate which scales with mighty CP which is cheap.
Ignesious shield (30% healing increased) combined with vigor and rally. Also helping hand passive.

The rev bash is just a bonus. And yeah that skill is buggy as hell.

In my opinion, those aren't necessarily OP when you consider what stam NB can do and how strong jabs are.

And there is definitely something wonky about the CC from reverb bash. I got bashed last night and my character just float backwards while CCed for about 2 seconds while I couldn't break free and ate unmitigated damage. Never seen that with any other CC.

olsborg · January 2016

Reverb bash can double or triple cc you, and its undodgeable, buggy shite.

leepalmer95 · January 2016

Draxys wrote: »

Master_Kas wrote: »

arcantonias wrote: »

Just wondering what your opinions are on the skill, its morphs and whether or not you think the hard cc attached to it is considered broken. It seems dks are being called the new "op" pvp class for using a skill available to everyone.

Nah they are called op because of diffrent things.

Only physical damage ultimate which scales with mighty CP which is cheap.
Ignesious shield (30% healing increased) combined with vigor and rally. Also helping hand passive.

The rev bash is just a bonus. And yeah that skill is buggy as hell.

In my opinion, those aren't necessarily OP when you consider what stam NB can do and how strong jabs are.

And there is definitely something wonky about the CC from reverb bash. I got bashed last night and my character just float backwards while CCed for about 2 seconds while I couldn't break free and ate unmitigated damage. Never seen that with any other CC.

try dodge rolling when you get hit by it ^^

arcantonias · January 2016

reverb is blockable and rollable

leepalmer95 · January 2016

arcantonias wrote: »

reverb is blockable and rollable

so is everything else, doesn't mean it's not broken.

arcantonias · January 2016

leepalmer95 wrote: »

arcantonias wrote: »

reverb is blockable and rollable

so is everything else, doesn't mean it's not broken.

mass hysteria isnt blockable or dodgeable and you cant always break free from it immediately but every nb seems fine with using it.

arcantonias · January 2016

I have even had nbs claim reverb and s/b is so op they switched to it and still lost duels to me.

leepalmer95 · January 2016

arcantonias wrote: »

I have even had nbs claim reverb and s/b is so op they switched to it and still lost duels to me.

nb's don't really need reverb though, they get heal debuff from their ult and cc from mass hysteria.

arcantonias · January 2016

yea i know...

Abob · January 2016

I've never had problems with rev bash CC, while I've had plenty with fear.

SemiD4rkness · January 2016

I use it and ive gotten hatemail twice but those were just salty dudes who lost a lot of stones to me.
I don't care if it's broken, not my fault. Also seems like people never have trouble breaking free after cc. Plus I wont drop it so NBs can cloak away and heal in seconds or templars getting full health with 1 button.

MormondPayne_EP · January 2016

arcantonias wrote: »

leepalmer95 wrote: »

arcantonias wrote: »

reverb is blockable and rollable

so is everything else, doesn't mean it's not broken.

mass hysteria isnt blockable or dodgeable and you cant always break free from it immediately but every nb seems fine with using it.

Exactly this, I've been using reveb bash forever and it is definitely block-able and dodge-able. I'm going to take a leaf out of all the cry baby NB's here and parrot their defence of Fear... "It's not Reveb (Fear) that's bugged, its the CC break mechanic."

If its ok for NB's to use this defence then it's ok for everyone else.

Stikato · January 2016

The CC is sometimes very difficult to break, idk why.

So many stam DKs go for the kill with Rev+Take Flight now, it is getting a little old. Well, that plus spamming vigor and running around rocks.

arcantonias · January 2016

so reverb+take flight is old and det+curse+endless+frag isnt? or how about fear+soul harvest+surprise attack? If you are getting 2 shot by reverb+take flight then I would assess your build a little more.

Master_Kas · January 2016

Draxys wrote: »

Master_Kas wrote: »

arcantonias wrote: »

Just wondering what your opinions are on the skill, its morphs and whether or not you think the hard cc attached to it is considered broken. It seems dks are being called the new "op" pvp class for using a skill available to everyone.

Nah they are called op because of diffrent things.

Only physical damage ultimate which scales with mighty CP which is cheap.
Ignesious shield (30% healing increased) combined with vigor and rally. Also helping hand passive.

The rev bash is just a bonus. And yeah that skill is buggy as hell.

In my opinion, those aren't necessarily OP when you consider what stam NB can do and how strong jabs are.

And there is definitely something wonky about the CC from reverb bash. I got bashed last night and my character just float backwards while CCed for about 2 seconds while I couldn't break free and ate unmitigated damage. Never seen that with any other CC.

You misunderstood me. Didn't say that IS op, but one of the reason people call Them op.

I hate nerfs except on broken stuff, rather see the underperforming brought up to a good/fun level instead of nerfing Every strong spec.

LegendaryChef · January 2016

Forever making me slide across the floor even after I break the cc and I cannot use any skills until he the duration of the cc is over, plz nerf.

imdoink · January 2016

LegendaryChef wrote: »

Forever making me slide across the floor even after I break the cc and I cannot use any skills until he the duration of the cc is over, plz nerf.

I have not had seen this happen on the receiving end or performing end. I'm on ps4 so maybe we don't have this issue?

Hulk_VI · January 2016

LegendaryChef wrote: »

Forever making me slide across the floor even after I break the cc and I cannot use any skills until he the duration of the cc is over, plz nerf.

I had it once where I got reverbed and broke it until I was out of stam, died, got revived and still continued breaking it, no nerf needed just fixing it will do.

ZOS_AlanG · January 2016

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Cinbri · January 2016

the main problem with skill is that sometimes its CC(after shield knockback you) is bugged and making your char doing weird thing like @LegendayChef said. But same very rarely happening with other knockbacks aswell. Like jabs knocback made my char to slide back for like 20 meters and i couldnt do anything, was total lol.

Stikato · January 2016

arcantonias wrote: »

so reverb+take flight is old and det+curse+endless+frag isnt? or how about fear+soul harvest+surprise attack? If you are getting 2 shot by reverb+take flight then I would assess your build a little more.

No need to get all testy. There's nothing wrong with normal combos within the game. It's getting to be pretty well known that rev bash is causing some CC issues that are strange. When people build specifically to take advantage of that, it does get a little old. Pointing that out does not indicate I need to reassess my build.

arcantonias · January 2016

OK so now we have a full page of opinions on this particular skill, some are a little a vague and others are based on 1 time experiences. Some people have even stated they have never noticed a problem using or being on the receiving end of this skill so I will give my opinion. For alot of stamina builds including nightblades reverb has become a staple to their playstyle, not because it is buggy but because it is a fast hard cc that scales from weapon damage, stamina, and mighty. It stops an opponent from spamming their burst dps in someones face with decent damage and a heal debuff to top it off. It is 100% block-able and dodge-able. There are alot of broken mechanics in eso, some that are 100% exploitable and abused on a daily basis whether the player knows about them or not. Other skills act like they ignore cc immunity at times or you can't break free from them immediately. A well known pc player and publisher of a well known dk build has stated that the sliding attached to certain hard cc desync your opponent and you can't even hit them in most cases. So my last question is in a game with so many broken mechanics, some being 100% repeatable how is 1 broken skill any more broken then the rest?

Stigant · January 2016

The CC of reverb is sometimes buggy on the recieving end, but otherwise the ability is fine .. It doesn't need nerf, it needs fix, althought it applies on the CC immunity and breaking free issues in general

TheM0rganism · February 2016

arcantonias wrote: »

OK so now we have a full page of opinions on this particular skill, some are a little a vague and others are based on 1 time experiences. Some people have even stated they have never noticed a problem using or being on the receiving end of this skill so I will give my opinion. For alot of stamina builds including nightblades reverb has become a staple to their playstyle, not because it is buggy but because it is a fast hard cc that scales from weapon damage, stamina, and mighty. It stops an opponent from spamming their burst dps in someones face with decent damage and a heal debuff to top it off. It is 100% block-able and dodge-able. There are alot of broken mechanics in eso, some that are 100% exploitable and abused on a daily basis whether the player knows about them or not. Other skills act like they ignore cc immunity at times or you can't break free from them immediately. A well known pc player and publisher of a well known dk build has stated that the sliding attached to certain hard cc desync your opponent and you can't even hit them in most cases. So my last question is in a game with so many broken mechanics, some being 100% repeatable how is 1 broken skill any more broken then the rest?

b/c it's a viable damage + utility skill that benefits sta DKs and tanks...therefore it deserves to be nerf'd into the f-ing ground by ZOS while they make every single mag-sorc/dk into mini-emperors.