Sallington wrote: »

Praise Lord D-tick, and you shall be rewarded.

D-tick?

acw37162 wrote: »

Live in Cyrodil.

Run a Delve every hour for alliance point boost.

Repair every wall you can find.

Run to every fight and kill stuff.

Be In a group so you still earn AP while your dead.

Defend every keep.

Take every resource.

Collect bounties and Cyrodil quests.

See you in a few months if your absolutely dedicated. If your partially dedicated see you in six.

Or if you know what your doing in 1-2 weeks

acw37162 wrote: »

Live in Cyrodil.

Run a Delve every hour for alliance point boost.

Repair every wall you can find.

Run to every fight and kill stuff.

Be In a group so you still earn AP while your dead.

Defend every keep.

Take every resource.

Collect bounties and Cyrodil quests.

See you in a few months if your absolutely dedicated. If your partially dedicated see you in six.

Kinda like he said think of it as Pve questing in the PVP zone Keep walls actually decay a bit over time so you can spend some gold to buy stone and repair keeps.

Amorpho wrote: »

Sallington wrote: »

Praise Lord D-tick, and you shall be rewarded.

Again, what did he mean with this?

Lord D-tick it the all mighty giver of free AP. In mythology, he is the lover of Lady O-tick. Their constant battle of wills is what tore asunder Asgard and all the other realms of men.

In some Nordic mythos, D-tick and O-tick sometimes follow one another shortly after a large battle...they constantly follow one another, but never arrive at the same place at the same time. A constant chase of love and war. It is a tragic love story....




Now that I have stretched my creative muscles a bit. When you defend a keep/resource/temple etc. You get shortly after a defensive AP tick. This amount of AP is awarded for successfully defending said spot. It increases based on the amount of people killed in said area. The same goes for the Offensive tick when you take a keep/ resource/ etc. Typically you get a D tick within about 1-2 minutes after the last person died. In the case of O-ticks its as soon as the flag flips and you have control.

My fellow AP bretheren please correct me in my explanation if I missed anything....im looking to you @Crown

quick and easy explanation, if no one dies within 60 seconds in range of the keep you will get a defensive tick which is split to how many people are there.
alliance points tally up from how many people died within range of the keep - i believe it tallies from how much ap a person is worth then divides it

Zerok wrote: »

From what I've seen, you can get about 10k AP on average per hour if you're part of a big group.

To unlock assault level 7 you need 1,624,000 AP.

So you can expect it will take about 162 hours of PvP.

If like me, you play for about 1 hour of PvP per day, it will take you about five months. At three hours per day you can make it in less than two months.

If you don't work and can play eight hours per day, you can make it in three weeks or so.

So yeah, it's highly depend on the playtime you dedicate to PvP. There is no other way.

10k an hour is low, isn't 20-30k average.

acw37162 wrote: »

Live in Cyrodil.

Run a Delve every hour for alliance point boost.

Repair every wall you can find.

Run to every fight and kill stuff.

Be In a group so you still earn AP while your dead.

Defend every keep.

Take every resource.

Collect bounties and Cyrodil quests.

See you in a few months if your absolutely dedicated. If your partially dedicated see you in six.

Psijic Ambrosia or crown not XP boosts.

Sub for XP boosts

I understand most of this, but a few questions if you could help with please.

"Run a delve every hour for AP boost" - do you have to run through a delve and clear all bosses? How much is the ap boost?

"Collect bounties & Cyrodiil quests" - I know what bounties are but which Cyrodiil quests grant ap?

"Psijic ambrosia or crown not XP boosts" - I don't understand can you re-phrase?

"Sub for XP pots" - ???

Brrrofski wrote: »

Asherons_Call wrote: »

leepalmer95 wrote: »

Asherons_Call wrote: »

acw37162 wrote: »

Live in Cyrodil.

Run a Delve every hour for alliance point boost.

Repair every wall you can find.

Run to every fight and kill stuff.

Be In a group so you still earn AP while your dead.

Defend every keep.

Take every resource.

Collect bounties and Cyrodil quests.

See you in a few months if your absolutely dedicated. If your partially dedicated see you in six.

Psijic Ambrosia or crown not XP boosts.

Sub for XP boosts

I understand most of this, but a few questions if you could help with please.

"Run a delve every hour for AP boost" - do you have to run through a delve and clear all bosses? How much is the ap boost?

"Collect bounties & Cyrodiil quests" - I know what bounties are but which Cyrodiil quests grant ap?

"Psijic ambrosia or crown not XP boosts" - I don't understand can you re-phrase?

"Sub for XP pots" - ???

For delves you need to kill the boss and it's 20% bonus for 1h

Not sure if quests give but the bounties do

Using an exp pot or an exp scroll don't give bonus ap

Do you have to kill one boss or all bosses in the delve? The reason I ask is that some delves have a lot of bosses and that could lead to diminishing returns if it takes 20+ minutes and you only get a one hour bonus.. Especially since it takes forever to ride from keep to keep on your horse.

It's one boss. Take an hour or sp working out which delve has a boss close to the front. Worth the investment.

Awesome, thank you. Finding and killing one boss takes less than 5 minutes. It gets tricky if you have to run around and find the others

or even easier as magika based, find zerg...equip resto...spam mutagen over and over at seige, you'll have it in no time ( crap skill though imo)

He means defend keeps and resources stay after the fight .... Don't go anywhere it take up to three minutes after there is NO fighting then the defense tick cometh. I was running to a farm where random ad were fighting k hole. The blue group got munched the ad ran off and I was crouched down putting my skill bars together from grinding 4.3 k tick all for me. The d tick rules.

I've put up some good info on how AP works at https://darkelves.com

Scroll down to section titled "Making AP".

For the lazy people, here's a copy-paste:

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Alliance Points (AP) come primarily from killing opponents.

Each individual is worth a certain amount of AP. That amount usually ranges from 600 to 1,000 though it can vary from almost nothing up to about 1200 based on:

The level of the person who died (lower level = less AP)
How long since the person died (shorter = less AP)
The alliance rank of the person being killed (higher = more AP) – I’m not sure if this is still accurate
Has the person killed a lot of others since they last died (yes = more AP) – this was changed or proven wrong

When you’re solo, if you’re the only person to damage an opponent (and nobody has healed you while you took damage from said opponent), you get all the AP.

If you are part of a group, then for every member of the group (even if they didn’t participate in the killing or healing), as long as they are in range, the AP will be split with the members of the group equally. There is a balance to be found for making AP, and I’ve always preferred groups of 12 to 16 – as beyond that the AP is too diluted. With 16 people, you’ll still make between 100 and 140 AP per kill. If your group caps out at 24, then the AP numbers drop by about 20% more. If there are many groups attacking the same target, they’ll all get that same 100 ish – including random people who have managed to get heals out and healed a person (who took damage in combat and) who did enough damage to the target.

In order to get AP from a kill you (or your group) has to do damage to the person who died. Simply tagging them (such as with caltrops) isn’t usually enough, as the amount of AP you get scales with the percentage of damage that you do to the target. In most engagements, people will be healed while they fight, so a person with 20k health may in fact need 50k damage to be killed (as the person has received 30k healing over the course of the fight). Damage to shields is also included in this, so if you want the AP gains you usually have to do a lot of damage.

Healing other players used to give a lot of AP, though that has been reduced in the current patch level. Simply casting heals on people won’t net you any AP unless those people have taken damage. If a large group is spamming AoE abilities and taking down opponents, then you’re probably not going to be able to heal them enough to count for enough AP to be worth spending the time.

When players (both sides) die in range of a keep, resource, or outpost (or behind a scroll gate), the total amount of AP that they gave up with their deaths (average tends to be between 800 to 1000) gets added to “the tick pool”. If a keep/resource/outpost is taken there is an offensive tick (O-Tick). If there has been no death within a certain amount of time (ranges from 45 seconds to 3 minutes depending on where you are) then there is a defensive tick (D-Tick). When a tick happens, the total tick pool gets divided up between all of the players within range (who are members of the alliance that owns the keep/resource/outpost). Most ticks range from a few hundred to a few thousand, though prolonged fights can generate ticks in the tens of thousands. The largest tick I’ve ever seen was for 70k AP and was called “The Tickening”. It took place at Sej in late 2014 after a fight that lasted well over 8 hours. Opponents would send people in to die every minute while they regrouped just to ensure that there would be no D-tick.

You can also make AP by turning in quests that are given at your starting gate, though other than the kill enemies quests they tend to be more opportunistic – rather than something you should strive to do.

Repairing walls and doors also makes you AP, though the amount that you spend on repair kits will be more than what you get by using them (repairing walls in the current Wrothgar patch gives back about 10% of what you spent, though this will be changed in a future patch).

You can increase your AP gains by 20% for one hour by killing a boss in a delve. Note that it may take a few minutes to get to a delve, clear the trash, and kill the boss – then get back to your group or fight location. You should never leave a good fight or a potential tick to get the buff, as the amount of AP you’ll lose out on may very well be more than 20% of what you’ll make in the next hour. Always save your AP buff renewals for times when your group is on break, or you know there will be a lull in fighting for a few minutes.

The average AP gains per hour for a reasonably capable group should be in the area of 20-something k / hour. A good group will make 30-something k / hour. A great group AP farming can make 50-something k / hour. The best AP farms that I've ever led or participated in made 100k / hour though that's the exception and not the norm.