Considering that blocking or roll dodging is a somewhat lost art among my dps brethren I agree mostly with you. Still, this boss has a nasty one hit attack and being chased by her in this really closed space does not make it an easy encounter, hence the need for a real tank.

Justice31st wrote: »

And how do you keep players alive that is one shotted?

USE TEH SHIELDS
C'mon, you even have the shield ultimate slotted. You really don't know how to prevent damage?

Justice31st wrote: »

Lol, did you fail to see that my ultimate wasn't charged in that particular moment?

It's your fault then. All those innocent people dead just because you didn't bother to get ult ready.
Shame on you

IwakuraLain42 wrote: »

Tempest Island is a prime example why you really need a (good) tank to finish the dungeon, even with a good healer too many things can one-shot you.
Had the same problem with two groups where people where scheduling as tank but had no idea how to actually tank. Unfortunately there's not much that ZOS can do to fix that problem ...

Had exactly this experience yesterday. I did Tempest Island twice as healer:

Run 1: Pug. Tank and DDs dropped like flies, were standing in the *** and I had to heal my butt off to keep them up. Not in all cases succesfully, so I was the 'worst healer they ever had'.

Run 2: Guild run. Smooth run, no casualties. Everybody happy.

Experiences may differ...

Not really a group finder thing imho, it's people that push the buttons.

are you really blaming the game bc your group is just bad? If a bossmob charges an attack block or dodge...they didn't do and died. Nothing wrong with it. Just a simple L2P issue...

PS: This boss doesn't hit hard enough, bc you survived this as a healer...He should oneshot everything than a tank with this attack.

the first guy didnt die to one shot, he died because he was stood in red whilst boss was on him. probably could have healed him through it for a bit longer with less shard spam and flash Gordon reflexes. but shouldn't have to try to heal through stupidity. The others definitely didn't have enough health to be useful melee dps and did get one shot.

go to forum guild recruitment threads if i were you, its made playing ESO so much more enjoyable for me now ive joined a guild that uses mic and runs content together.

Not sure why everyone is attacking OP, he clearly did his job but the 3 DPS sucked completely. If they can't see the heavy attack or stay out of the red circles then they need to go back to the drawing board and re-learn how to avoid damage.

Justice31st wrote: »

dday3six wrote: »

Yep, group find is a cluster. People seem to rountinely select a role they're not even spec'd for and even if they are, they rarely understand how to play it.

I agree, this is a big problem I have found while using the group finder every day to complete the undaunted dallies. There was someone in our group who was queued as a tank.

I'll tell you exactly who was queued as tank.
The one that died first.

And no, his health did not drop from 100% to 0%.
He did however probably lose all his stamina, or did not hold block at all.

I'm not saying they all did well. They did not. The damage dealers should ressurect a tank ASAP, every experienced player knows that.

It's not dungeon balance. It's bad players being bad players. Tell them. To gitgud

davidtxr wrote: »

Try tanking when the healer hasn't got a clue now that's fun

I know exactly what you mean.

Templars using Shards for dps on final boss in Banished Cells while I hold 5 daedroths away from the boss is never fun.

I honestly didn't know group finder pugs on console where that bad

Do people queue as tank, than show up as dps or something? Or is it unintentional, like they dont even know how to set roles?

In extremely bad pugs you need someone that taunts bosses even in normal dungeons. But there was no one tanking. One guy using a frost staff than went DW spamming Tornado what the hell? One guy mashing cloak in the middle of a boss fight lol. Other dude only using heavy sword attacks.

No one was reviving. Is soul gems that hard to come by on console?

Healer could have saved the first guy from dying yes. But does it matter? Would likely have insta-died to boss a few second later anyway.

Decent templar could have carried those 3 dps'ers throw entire normal City of Ash, if prepared for it with off-tank spec, loads of pots and patience. But OP probably didn't know he was expected to do literally every single role, just to get a *** silver key. It's not even worth it.

@Justice31st

This is more of a L2P issue. Buffs wont correct this. First off you let tico die because you were spamming shards and not healing. The other 2 died to the bosses charged up attack which honestly will 1shot anyone but maybe a tank if not blocked ( or warded) That is where L2P comes in. They need to block that.

GRANTED yes ticos death was mostly his fault but could have been avoidable. That being said. ZOS cant give these guys an intelligence buff

Who else loled @ darkchay getting 1 hit by that heavy attack LOLOL. So sad. He was back pedalling desperately and got thwacked in da FACE.

First of all, tanks are unnecessary in all normal dungeons (except normal ICP and WGT) as long as at least two of the DPS have good DPS and the healer focuses on healing. You can even do it with 3 people if one of your DPS has amazing DPS.

I watched the video. Clearly you did not do your job initially by letting the group leader die. He was not one-shotted, his HP gradually reached 0.

Now yes, the two other players who were one-shotted were obviously not blocking or dodge rolling when the hit came. This is probably a lack of experience, but it can also be that they did not have enough HP (lack of food buff is the prime suspect). Though, you cannot confirm that on PS4 (on PC you can).

Also, when playing without a tank, it is the DPS job to revive others. Usually, the DPS with aggro will run as far as possible from the dead party member while the non-aggroed DPS revive the fallen member. Again, this seems to indicate these players were just inexperienced.

As an experienced player, it was your job to brief them on basic dungeon strategies, especially without a tank to grab aggro.