Did the Adult Themes in ESO Bother You?

CavalierPrime · January 2016

This game features murder, racism, and drug use.
In one quest, I decided a Khajit was guilty of some minor crime. He gets executed on the spot after screaming in terror "No! I dont want to die!"
I didnt intend for that! I didnt want to stand by and watch him die over something so trivial. Especially with his heart wrenching plea. That scene still plays out in my mind to this day. It hurt my soul.

Meanwhile on the forums, the word "anuses" has been deemed inappropriate. Who is ZoS protecting? Who exposes themselves to this forum besides people who have exposed themselves to the horror of this game?
A non-curse word vs mass killing, drug use, racism, and being responsible for the deaths of innocents? Is this where we are at as a society?

Tryxus · January 2016

Earth societies <> Nirn societes

Zorrashi · January 2016

The game and the game forums are two different things.

CavalierPrime · January 2016

Tryxus wrote: »

Earth societies <> Nirn societes

Zorrashi wrote: »

The game and the game forums are two different things.

Did the adult themes in the game bother you?
Does the word anuses bother you?
Im trying to find the part where you answered the question.

Tryxus · January 2016

Look real closely and you'll find that part

Jaeysa · January 2016

I think he's trying to poke at the hypocrisy of it. You play a game involving the torture of innocents, drugs tearing families apart, and somehow swears are a problem.

Zorrashi · January 2016

CavalierPrime wrote: »

Tryxus wrote: »

Earth societies <> Nirn societes

Zorrashi wrote: »

The game and the game forums are two different things.

Did the adult themes in the game bother you?
Does the word anuses bother you?
Im trying to find the part where you answered the question.

Honestly? The game seems pretty tame. But I suppose that's what I get for playing Witcher for a tad too long.
But for the whole "anuses" buisness. It is simply annoying and at times supremely irritating--especially if the comment completely details the thread into a big insult fest.

I come to the forum to discuss, engage in dialogue and etc. on a few occasions I get into a few rants. I am not on the forums to entertain immature name calling. Thus, I support moderation.

CavalierPrime · January 2016

Jaeysa wrote: »

I think he's trying to poke at the hypocrisy of it. You play a game involving the torture of innocents, drugs tearing families apart, and somehow swears are a problem.

Its not even swearing, its just language that is less than tasteful. It could have even been the OP of that thread who censored himself, but the point remains. I got legitimately disturbed by my role in the Khajit's death...in a video game. More-so than anything I've ever read on this forum.

Tryxus · January 2016

Jaeysa wrote: »

I think he's trying to poke at the hypocrisy of it. You play a game involving the torture of innocents, drugs tearing families apart, and somehow swears are a problem.

Yeah, but that's the thing

IRL, stuff like that is bad. Swearing, drugs, murder...

But ESO is a game -> who gives a flying -bleep- about drinking Skooma or killing the -bleep- out of a virtual character? The virtual police?

No hypocrisy here: they created a virtual world where we can do whatever we want (even becoming a swearing assassin), but out here in the real world we need to behave (hence my "Earth societies <> Nirn societes" comment) and not kill ppl over a beer

Abeille · January 2016

The themes do not bother me the slightest. Neither did the title of that thread.

Merchant Aranak, was it? The Khajiit you mentioned. The Green can be really unforgiving sometimes, although I think it is incredibly picky and not very consistent with who it punishes and who it forgives in this game.

Edit: By "the themes do not bother me", I mean that the fact that there are adult themes in the game doesn't bother me. I get really attached to some characters and this game made me feel my feels several times.

Hand_Bacon · January 2016

Generally found the game very tame until I unknowingly entered a tavernish coconut looking thing in Greenshade or Malabal Tor and saw a bunch of blueish chat text with players standing around. Not sure what that was all about, but I think the fat guy was pregnant.

I don't have a problem with swearing in game...I mean we are hacking and slaying many artificially alive creatures. But there are two kinds of colorful parlance.
1. Swearing for the sake of swearing. The 14 year old when their parents aren't looking or listening.
2. Proper swearing. Well formed strings of verbal dexterity that even the dad in "A Christmas Story" could admire.

I can appreciate proper swearing.

dem0n1k · January 2016

Here is the difference... the profanity on the forums could be an issue in the real world if someone were to be so thin-skinned that they take offence to it. The murder & drugs & whatever are in a fantasy game. Fantasy. A game. .

So, no, the adult themes in the game don't bother me. I mostly played shooter FPS games in the past where the whole point of the game was to kill other players over & over.

That said, a forum topic with 'anuses' in the title doesn't bother me either. It's a general discussion forums so there are going to be lots of anuses... I mean... opinions.

Gidorick · January 2016

Actually... ESO could use MORE adult themes.

Zorrashi · January 2016

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Abeille · January 2016

Gidorick wrote: »

Actually... ESO could use MORE adult themes.

Agreed. And repeating jokes about The Lusty Argonian Maid is not the way to go. I really don't want them to run that joke into the ground, but there are already several references to it in the game.

CavalierPrime · January 2016

Gidorick wrote: »

Actually... ESO could use MORE adult themes.

If you mean hot coffee with Evili Sharp-Arrow, I second that sentiment!

MrDerrikk · January 2016

Gidorick wrote: »

Actually... ESO could use MORE adult themes.

Just what I was going to say. The biggest reason this game feels so pointless and tame compared to Skyrim in my mind is the absence of blood, brutality etc (I think your "Brutality Pack" idea covers this, but it's too early to search it up), making slaughtering anything feel very unrealistic.

Draxys · January 2016

That is an interesting dichotomy. Here on the forums, we are treated like children of parents (mods) who are determined to shield their kids from spoiling their virgin eyes and ears. Meanwhile, in game, people are stealing other dudes skins and stuff. Not that it's particularly gruesome, they went pretty lame on that kind of stuff but the ideas are there.

Ourorboros · January 2016

Not surprised a thread with *** in the title was removed/edited. The censoring on the forum is way overboard. The game, nor that language doesn't bother me. What does bother me is the hypocrisy that I can't repeat things that are in the game here in the forum. You could never have a discussion about an old TV host named *** Cavet, even though that was his name. The game is rated Mature, the forum are kept in a Pleasantville state. I'd like to see more color in this B/W forum foisted on us.

Mojmir · January 2016

I find the lack of cleavage disturbing, but all that violence is fine.

Forestd16b14_ESO · January 2016

Um no cause the game is rated M.

dday3six · January 2016

CavalierPrime wrote: »

This game features murder, racism, and drug use.
In one quest, I decided a Khajit was guilty of some minor crime. He gets executed on the spot after screaming in terror "No! I dont want to die!"
I didnt intend for that! I didnt want to stand by and watch him die over something so trivial. Especially with his heart wrenching plea. That scene still plays out in my mind to this day. It hurt my soul.

Meanwhile on the forums, the word "anuses" has been deemed inappropriate. Who is ZoS protecting? Who exposes themselves to this forum besides people who have exposed themselves to the horror of this game?
A non-curse word vs mass killing, drug use, racism, and being responsible for the deaths of innocents? Is this where we are at as a society?

I'm pretty sure the change for that thread's title was done by the OP. It likely was an attempt to have the concerns be viewed as more serious, and add to their credibility.

Edit - actually it seems the OP claims it to have been modded. Then likely it was viewed by Mods as a *** reference.

Volkodav · January 2016

People who take any video game this serious shouldnt play them.For it to effect your thoughts like this isnt good.Some people just cant handle mature games,which is why the labeling warns you. Why would someone even buy a game that states there is adult content only to get appalled by it. It states when you make a decision that if you click on a red one,that you cannot reverse it.It lets you know to think about it.and if you read the choices it tells you that the npc will die if you choose the one option.So just dont pick that option if it bothers you.
As to the forums,I agree that they are far too G rating for my tastes,but I have to live with it. Ourorboros is right.You cant use Mr Cavet's name.It gets starred out.That's toooooo thin skinned.

MaxBat · January 2016

CavalierPrime wrote: »

Jaeysa wrote: »

I think he's trying to poke at the hypocrisy of it. You play a game involving the torture of innocents, drugs tearing families apart, and somehow swears are a problem.

Its not even swearing, its just language that is less than tasteful. It could have even been the OP of that thread who censored himself, but the point remains. I got legitimately disturbed by my role in the Khajit's death...in a video game. More-so than anything I've ever read on this forum.

"Less than tasteful." So: tasteless?

It's an implication, depending upon how people want to use words. You didn't say "anuses" in the biological sense. You said anuses in the "ream you new one" sense.

That said, I wasn't offended by your tasteless (by your admission) comment, but I've been lurking on video game forums for a long, long time. As far as tasteless goes, that was pretty tame. Sort of like ESO, I suppose.

Strider_Roshin · January 2016

dday3six wrote: »

CavalierPrime wrote: »

This game features murder, racism, and drug use.
In one quest, I decided a Khajit was guilty of some minor crime. He gets executed on the spot after screaming in terror "No! I dont want to die!"
I didnt intend for that! I didnt want to stand by and watch him die over something so trivial. Especially with his heart wrenching plea. That scene still plays out in my mind to this day. It hurt my soul.

Meanwhile on the forums, the word "anuses" has been deemed inappropriate. Who is ZoS protecting? Who exposes themselves to this forum besides people who have exposed themselves to the horror of this game?
A non-curse word vs mass killing, drug use, racism, and being responsible for the deaths of innocents? Is this where we are at as a society?

I'm pretty sure the change for that thread's title was done by the OP. It likely was an attempt to have the concerns be viewed as more serious, and add to their credibility.

Edit - actually it seems the OP claims it to have been modded. Then likely it was viewed by Mods as a *** reference.

Probably. Should have started with a trigger warning.

Farorin · January 2016

CavalierPrime wrote: »

This game features murder, racism, and drug use.
In one quest, I decided a Khajit was guilty of some minor crime. He gets executed on the spot after screaming in terror "No! I dont want to die!"
I didnt intend for that! I didnt want to stand by and watch him die over something so trivial. Especially with his heart wrenching plea. That scene still plays out in my mind to this day. It hurt my soul.

Meanwhile on the forums, the word "anuses" has been deemed inappropriate. Who is ZoS protecting? Who exposes themselves to this forum besides people who have exposed themselves to the horror of this game?
A non-curse word vs mass killing, drug use, racism, and being responsible for the deaths of innocents? Is this where we are at as a society?

You see, this is how things work in the media and gaming world these days...

Swear words, and the female body, are evil terrible, disgusting things that should never be allowed, but murder, and intense violence is all gravy.

That being said. This game has like such mild, mild adult themes. I would let a 4 year old play this game because of how tame it is, especially compared to other games out there.

Totalitarian · January 2016

Well, the violence in this game isn't too bad and disturbing compared to other games, namely Call of Duty Modern Warfare 2 & 3, to the point where the game asks you if you want to skip a part of the campaign due to the graphic and disturbing nature.

That being said, I've been playing violent video games my whole life, so violence doesn't disturb me much. But I can see how someone would be offended/moved by the violence in ESO.

Angarato · January 2016

no

Gidorick · January 2016

Abeille wrote: »

Gidorick wrote: »

Actually... ESO could use MORE adult themes.

Agreed. And repeating jokes about The Lusty Argonian Maid is not the way to go. I really don't want them to run that joke into the ground, but there are already several references to it in the game.

ugh... and that text wasn't even supposed to be WRITTEN at this point in Nirn's history. Yea, yea... it was retconned to have been written even farther in the past.

I like the meme (that's what it is at this point) but I agree we don't need more of that.

Gidorick · January 2016

MrDerrikk wrote: »

Gidorick wrote: »

Actually... ESO could use MORE adult themes.

Just what I was going to say. The biggest reason this game feels so pointless and tame compared to Skyrim in my mind is the absence of blood, brutality etc (I think your "Brutality Pack" idea covers this, but it's too early to search it up), making slaughtering anything feel very unrealistic.

Here it is @MrDerrikk !

http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/222351/brutality-pack-concept/p1

Jusey1 · January 2016

I've read Fallout: Equestria... This stuff is child-play against the themes of a wasteland that is not limited due to being a game or movie.