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Enough is enough tired of people using camo hunter to 1 shot fix this (VIDEO)

  • Akinos
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    Barlthump wrote: »
    Just because you don't like the OP doesn't make his complaint less valid.

    Being a vamp should not make one shot bs ok. My Templar has 30k health, impen gear, and CP into reducing crit damage and I still get one shot by this nonesense. This skill is very imbalanced right now.

    Im sorry good sir, I'm calling *** right now. No freaking way you can get 1 shot with that kind of stats. 30k hp is so freaking huge that nothing can one shot you. Plus impen gear and CP into reducing crit damage? I'm literally rolling on the floor laughing at the ***. If you're gonna lie please at least be smart about it.

    He's not lying and neither am I. We have no reason to lie. Camo-hunter double proc is broken and everybody knows it. Laugh it up though, you'll be one of the first people to reroll or quit once all the 1 shot nonsense gets nerfed or fixed.
    Edited by Akinos on December 23, 2015 1:47PM
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  • Sithisvoid
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    Oh it's so hard to be a vamp poor them. PC age has really gone too far now. IMO fine give them the fighters guild nerf, but make them burn up in the sunlight as should be.
    Edited by Sithisvoid on December 23, 2015 1:51PM
  • Islyn
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    found1779 wrote: »
    Alcast wrote: »
    Cure Vampirism and problem solved.
    Slot Radiant Magelight
    Use Permafrost Armor

    so many option...

    So many options yet none of them i want to do i like being a vampire or werewolf i understand there should be something to fight against them but not a broken ability it needs fixed what if a vampire ability could 1 shot you would be saying the same thing i am now fix it

    I like being a vampire too. I really do.

    I just like being alive a LOT more.
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  • vamp_emily
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    Get your health up to 25k, that is the best advice someone gave me.

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  • Barlthump
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    Akinos wrote: »
    Barlthump wrote: »
    Just because you don't like the OP doesn't make his complaint less valid.

    Being a vamp should not make one shot bs ok. My Templar has 30k health, impen gear, and CP into reducing crit damage and I still get one shot by this nonesense. This skill is very imbalanced right now.

    Im sorry good sir, I'm calling *** right now. No freaking way you can get 1 shot with that kind of stats. 30k hp is so freaking huge that nothing can one shot you. Plus impen gear and CP into reducing crit damage? I'm literally rolling on the floor laughing at the ***. If you're gonna lie please at least be smart about it.

    He's not lying and neither am I. We have no reason to lie. Camo-hunter double proc is broken and everybody knows it. Laugh it up though, you'll be one of the first people to reroll or quit once all the 1 shot nonsense gets nerfed or fixed.

    Oh please I've been here for all the nerfs and I'm still going strong. When this nerf hits I'll adapt and still come back to one shot you. And FYI the issue is not with the camo hunter proc. It's with animation canceling. And animation cancel is allowed. If I'm good enough to land 3 hits on you with animation cancel. Am I not working hard for the kill. And if anyone can walk up right behind you in stealth and land a heavy attack I think I alr know what kind of player you are. And if a player uses animation cancel to land sth like, snipe, heavy attack and poison arrow on you all at once. I honestly believes he needs the kill. And to your friend who said I didn't read the whole thread. Please ask him to look again. Using my mobile so I reply onearlier post at a time.
    Edited by Barlthump on December 23, 2015 1:57PM
  • FriedEggSandwich
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    found1779 wrote: »
    Akinos wrote: »
    found1779 wrote: »
    Anyone who says this is okay are probably the ones doing it lol

    Yup..just like the sorcs that think there is nothing wrong with them having more shields then HP and being able to recast said shields near indefinitely.

    Yup i'm a sorcerer but stamina sorcerer so i dont use magica shield it's ridiculous how people know something is broken and people continue to exploit it just shows how desperate some are

    I don't use annulment, just hardened and then healing when I drop below 10% hp. At that low hp healing protected by hardened will produce a shield bigger than my 23k health pool, but it last 6 seconds, it's not like I permanently run around like that. Don't see this as an exploit. Sorry to go off topic but I don't like generalisations.
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  • Nightenhowl
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    OP I find your video very entertaining, I also ride my horse through IC.
  • Sithisvoid
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    It's not the camo hunter proc hitting you it's the 10k guaranteed extra damage it gives.At least mine gives that much. The proc only hits 15% of the time and is a big purple explosion. That combined with a snipe and yeah you're done. Nothing broken it does what it says get over it. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CW6lsoUWkAAeHRq.jpg:large 13928 snipe + 11580 damage for being in stealth https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CW6l11GW8AA434S.jpg:large Plus the 15% chance for a proc and if I crit you one dead vamp. Working as intended now be quiet. Note how your 20k heath isn't jack and i can burn through that without the camo hunter don't test me. ONE SHOT mechanics explained
    Edited by Sithisvoid on December 23, 2015 2:06PM
  • Pangnirtung
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    Troll.

    Nerf. Nerf. Nerf. Nerf.

    Everything has been nerfed at least once.

    It's too bad that PVP and PVE skills can't be separate because nerfing it only for PVP is wrong.
  • Barlthump
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    Troll.

    Nerf. Nerf. Nerf. Nerf.

    Everything has been nerfed at least once.

    It's too bad that PVP and PVE skills can't be separate because nerfing it only for PVP is wrong.

    Let the nerfs come. Stam classes were never meant to do PVE anyway. With the camo hunter nerf prepare to pull only 10k - 16k dps on a boss. While magicka classes can boast 25k dps with light attacks. Let's do this people. Let's make elder robes online a thing. Can't wait for vr caps to be removed. FOTM CLASSES HERE I COME
  • DRXHarbinger
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    Still not impressed with op. Camo hunter is nothing, neither is dawnbreaker. Find me in IC and watch my overload fry an entire zerg. I've had 9 people come at me at once and I fried them all lol (not a zerg but still impressive right?). Free stones for me. Got a xivkyn dread guard thanks to them. Just one more to go. Seriously though 20k damage is nothing. If procd and buffed properly mine does 16514 damage instantly plus 12k over time. Then 60% to you pathetic vamps. No one is surviving that. In all fairness you get bats. They eat zergs like I do bacon sarnies. Fair is fair.
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  • Barlthump
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    Sithisvoid wrote: »
    It's not the camo hunter proc hitting you it's the 10k guaranteed extra damage it gives.At least mine gives that much. The proc only hits 15% of the time and is a big purple explosion. That combined with a snipe and yeah you're done. Nothing broken it does what it says get over it. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CW6lsoUWkAAeHRq.jpg:large 13928 snipe + 11580 damage for being in stealth https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CW6l11GW8AA434S.jpg:large Plus the 15% chance for a proc and if I crit you one dead vamp. Working as intended now be quiet. Note how your 20k heath isn't jack and i can burn through that without the camo hunter don't test me. ONE SHOT mechanics explained

    Don't bother nerf batting has already begun. ZOS has heard the cries and are gonna make it a one time proc/recast ability.
  • Sithisvoid
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    Barlthump wrote: »
    Sithisvoid wrote: »
    It's not the camo hunter proc hitting you it's the 10k guaranteed extra damage it gives.At least mine gives that much. The proc only hits 15% of the time and is a big purple explosion. That combined with a snipe and yeah you're done. Nothing broken it does what it says get over it. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CW6lsoUWkAAeHRq.jpg:large 13928 snipe + 11580 damage for being in stealth https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CW6l11GW8AA434S.jpg:large Plus the 15% chance for a proc and if I crit you one dead vamp. Working as intended now be quiet. Note how your 20k heath isn't jack and i can burn through that without the camo hunter don't test me. ONE SHOT mechanics explained

    Don't bother nerf batting has already begun. ZOS has heard the cries and are gonna make it a one time proc/recast ability.

    That's fine I'll still one shot them. Honestly I only ever slotted it after reading these nerf threads. Never needed it but hey 11.5 k free damage against vamps and if i proc lolololol
  • gw2only1b14_ESO
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    hHmmm the pros and cons of being Undead But you love your Bat swarm and Mist Form
  • jcasini222ub17_ESO
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    Hmm let's get a little crazy. Keep camo hunter as is and allow batswarm to work under the old dynamic gen rules. Let chaos ensue?

    Certainly passed the risk reward test you can get one-shotted/your ult is beyond sweet.... yolo developing ftw
  • eliisra
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    Barlthump wrote: »
    Just because you don't like the OP doesn't make his complaint less valid.

    Being a vamp should not make one shot bs ok. My Templar has 30k health, impen gear, and CP into reducing crit damage and I still get one shot by this nonesense. This skill is very imbalanced right now.

    Im sorry good sir, I'm calling *** right now. No freaking way you can get 1 shot with that kind of stats. 30k hp is so freaking huge that nothing can one shot you. Plus impen gear and CP into reducing crit damage? I'm literally rolling on the floor laughing at the ***. If you're gonna lie please at least be smart about it.

    Having some crit def and 30k health wont save you from being instagibbed as vampire, sorry. Even the campaigns emperor can be instakilled if he plays vamp, due to double+ triple Camo Hunter proc's. We're talking about close to 50k dps from sneak, if the player is good.

    Most likely you're playing on a campaign without min/maxed players, without meta/cheese builds, so you only have a couple of sucky gankers. Enjoy it while it lasts. A lot of new consoles players in the past, was arguing like you do right now. Than their server started to catch up of terms of meta + CP, they got all the camo gankers to and finally(or sadly) on the same page. You cant play vamp in PvP now, unless planning on never leaving sneak :cold_sweat:

    Ironically, when you cure vamp, you never get ganked ever. Because cant really instagibb non-vamps from sneak, even if they're in light armor with 20k health derping around. No auto proc's no kills.
  • gw2only1b14_ESO
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    Hmm let's get a little crazy. Keep camo hunter as is and allow batswarm to work under the old dynamic gen rules. Let chaos ensue?

    Certainly passed the risk reward test you can get one-shotted/your ult is beyond sweet.... yolo developing ftw

    I just wonder how much more pain there will be for PvP vamps with the siege changes down the line Camo will be the last thing to worry about
  • vaagventje17eb17_ESO
    Akinos wrote: »
    found1779 wrote: »
    Anyone who says this is okay are probably the ones doing it lol

    Yup..just like the sorcs that think there is nothing wrong with them having more shields then HP and being able to recast said shields near indefinitely.

    I think this guy just found the solution, one be vamp on sorc, stack shield, more then health, so claiming this guy had 21k or whatever he said tldr, it makes 42k of shield+hp to shoot away, if then you get 1shotted, you can cry. but being 1 shotted with 20k or less hp, you dont even need to be vamp for that, you can be 1 shotted without vamp to that way. pic a option, survive, or stack damage. but dont complain about your glasscannon build being not a tank, it was not desinged to be...
  • Lord-Otto
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    Turelus wrote: »
    Remove your Vampire or get more health.

    Vampire has to have consequences for the beneficial power it grants, this is one of them, seeing as ZOS has nerfed everything else which was a negative for Vampires.


    From a Dunmer Nightblade.

    Post before:
    A nightblade abusing this will soon come and tell you to l2p and get more health. Fun thing is if you survive this op crap it takes is use that unblockable cc and gg.

    x'D

    Yup, this is the state of ESO's community.
    I think NIGHTBLADES have to have consequences for their incredible burst attacks. How about you Nightblades get no healing AT ALL, so you better use your burst to kill and get out fast with your cloak? How's that for consequences?
  • SanTii.92
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    Egonieser wrote: »
    Turelus wrote: »
    Remove your Vampire or get more health.

    Vampire has to have consequences for the beneficial power it grants, this is one of them, seeing as ZOS has nerfed everything else which was a negative for Vampires.

    Yeah, consequences... There is a difference between a disadvantage and total uselessness.
    If there is a disadvantage like this (getting literally one-shot or close to it) there has to be an advantage of equal power.
    And no, neither batswarm or mist form is nowhere near on-par with camo hunter.

    But of course you will argue with any point because you probably strive on instagibbing vampire players. Wonder if you would sing the same tune if vampires had the same ability like camo, but designed specifically against non-vampires, bet you would be the first to come and complain and cry about "balance".

    Yeap, this guy is on point. There is a big difference between counter play and getting instagib. Which means, you know, no counterr play, there is no fun on that.

    The main problem is that Camo hunter and Dawnbreaker are too reliable to be such a strong counter play.
    Why wouldn't I run camo hunter if I'm getting 10% crit chance free anyways vs everyone, broken dmge vs almost every mob on IC AND a chance to instagib? Same happens with Dawnbreaker, why wouldn't I use it if I'm also getting free 8% weapon power a very low cost ult and again, swarming trough IC.
    If they are going to be nich skills for very particular situations they shouldn't be that reliable.

    And please stop saying just cure vampirism, that's literally the dumbest thing you could possible say.
    Edited by SanTii.92 on December 23, 2015 6:52PM
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  • Chrlynsch
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    Sithisvoid wrote: »
    Instead of humoring the OP of these type posts or arguing with them I suggest everyone slot Camo hunter and let's end this vamp plague once and for all! Kill them until they cure it and we can remove this scourge from Tamriel

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  • MishMash
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    found1779 wrote: »
    i have 20 thousand health and i get 1 shotted by someone hidden using camo hunter fix this ridiculous crap It's broken fix it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J_DRwy5GF18

    That is actually pretty funny!
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  • laksikus
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    lol, i laughed sooo hard. one shot on a horse.

  • templesus
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    I believe its right to have, everything needs a counter however it is getting out of hand. I believe if you take the weapon crit it gives and put it in another ability then this would lessen the problem greatly. Most people use it for the crit with a bow however the extra damage is just icing on the top.
    Edited by templesus on January 11, 2016 2:36PM
  • Vangy
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    BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAA.

    This is what u get when u run a 40k Max magicka build with 7 pieces in paper armor with 0 impen and under 20k health. Hahahahahaha!!!! What? U wanna gallop around on your horse with those kind of stats and survive? A single xivkyn add Wb without u blocking would prolly kill u lol. Vamp or no vamp people gona 1 shot u lolol.
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  • daswahnsinn
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    This one shot camo hunter technique works just as well on Vamps and non vamps characters. I have had it happen to me and my DK isn't a vamp. I not complaining get saw a lot of comments about curing vampirism and what not. I sort of feel that animation cancelling should be done a way with but to each their own.
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  • GreenSoup2HoT
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    I've had it! with these camo hunter proc's in this ****** ****** game.
    Edited by GreenSoup2HoT on January 11, 2016 2:48PM
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  • riverdragon72
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    I love it! Nothing like sneaking up behind you abominations glowing like a candle and knocking your stinky cold corpses to oblivion.
    Meh...**** it..
  • Brrrofski
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    I can say this has happened like once to me.

    But nothing should one shot someone with 20k health. Vamp or not.
  • ralonasan
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    Alcast wrote: »
    Cure Vampirism and problem solved.
    Slot Radiant Magelight
    Use Permafrost Armor

    so many option...

    This.
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