Glorious Magicka DK - Small Scale Video

Glory · January 2016

Hi everyone!

I decided to main a magicka DK due to the notion that they are terrible and I love being terrible. So, here are some fun fights I had in the past couple weeks! Shout out to my amigos in the video!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RasfHa8TUfQ

To get it out of the way: I do die a lot in these clips. I feel like the fights are still good, (and against good players) it's just that when you're fighting a lot of people in this version of the game they either keep rezzing each other or people continue to pile on. If you have any other feedback for me, I'd love to hear it

Also, I'm bad at choosing music, feel free to mute it or give me suggestions (I'm old and my music is all heavily copyrighted).

blabafat · January 2016

I LIKE IT!

The OG Vamp Drainer

Vynist · January 2016

Enjoyed the vid!

Heavy armor? How well does magicka dk fair in solo pvp and 1vX?

Ara_Valleria · January 2016

Wooo ! Me likey Glory

Ghostbane · January 2016

GLLLOORRRRIIIOOUUSSS

Aenlir · January 2016

awesome vid glorious!!! always fun playing with you!

Elong · January 2016

Nice video, love watching a good magicka DK.

Glory · January 2016

Vynist wrote: »

Enjoyed the vid!

Heavy armor? How well does magicka dk fair in solo pvp and 1vX?

I am running heavy armor yep! Solo PvP/1vX is a bit rough (especially in heavy armor) since so much damage is mitigated from CP points. As always, it is doable if you're fighting less skilled players, but it's harder IMO.

Thanks @Ara_Valleria, @Ghostbane @craigvigneaultub17_ESO, @Elong xD

Ghostbane · January 2016

Whenever I finish saving up for my next mDK expierment, we should get a small leap party going!

blabafat · January 2016

Ah I don't get included in the thank you message

I see. I see I see.

Ara_Valleria · January 2016

blabafat wrote: »

Ah I don't get included in the thank you message

I see. I see I see.

Rip.

KenaPKK · January 2016

Nice vid!

I agree, nerf magicka DK. Clearly OP.

IxskullzxI · January 2016

Why do you have invigorating drain slotted? For the ult gen? Isn't the heal kind of bad on it?

Glory · January 2016

Ghostbane wrote: »

Whenever I finish saving up for my next mDK expierment, we should get a small leap party going!

Sounds fun! Count me in.

IxskullzxI wrote: »

Why do you have invigorating drain slotted? For the ult gen? Isn't the heal kind of bad on it?

Invigorating drain I've found to be good for the quick stone as well as the 5 ulti per second for this build. The heal is indeed sub-par, as are most heals available to magicka DK

@blabafat RIP
@KenaPKK Thank you!!

Vynist · January 2016

IxskullzxI wrote: »

Why do you have invigorating drain slotted? For the ult gen? Isn't the heal kind of bad on it?

I too would like to know.

Vynist · January 2016

IxskullzxI wrote: »

Why do you have invigorating drain slotted? For the ult gen? Isn't the heal kind of bad on it?

I too would like to know!

edit: Okay nvm, I can read lol

Vynist · January 2016

@ebethke_ESO

Enjoyed the vid! I believe I dueled you yesterday and I melted on my vamp stamplar lol.

Two quick questions:
-Is this a heavy armor build?
-How well does this build work in solo and 1vX play?

Glory · January 2016

Vynist wrote: »

@ebethke_ESO

Enjoyed the vid! I believe I dueled you yesterday and I melted on my vamp stamplar lol.

Two quick questions:
-Is this a heavy armor build?
-How well does this build work in solo and 1vX play?

Thanks Vynist

We did duel! I've seen you around frequently the last couple days. It is indeed a heavy armor build, with 1L/1M/5H. Solo, the build does very well up until a certain point (where enemy heals and/or damage exceeds your output). It does struggle with burst, as its built more for sustain currently. I've been able to fight 5+ people for a long time, but have often run into the trouble of not putting out enough damage to seal the deal.

To be honest, I feel the game has gone away from solo roam (sadly), so I've tried to build more to survive bursts while also putting out solid CC and healing debuff and pressure. I've been running in small group (2-6) and am often the focused player, so this build plays well with that role.

Vynist · January 2016

ebethke_ESO wrote: »

Vynist wrote: »

@ebethke_ESO

Enjoyed the vid! I believe I dueled you yesterday and I melted on my vamp stamplar lol.

Two quick questions:
-Is this a heavy armor build?
-How well does this build work in solo and 1vX play?

Thanks Vynist

We did duel! I've seen you around frequently the last couple days. It is indeed a heavy armor build, with 1L/1M/5H. Solo, the build does very well up until a certain point (where enemy heals and/or damage exceeds your output). It does struggle with burst, as its built more for sustain currently. I've been able to fight 5+ people for a long time, but have often run into the trouble of not putting out enough damage to seal the deal.

To be honest, I feel the game has gone away from solo roam (sadly), so I've tried to build more to survive bursts while also putting out solid CC and healing debuff and pressure. I've been running in small group (2-6) and am often the focused player, so this build plays well with that role.

Yeah I quit for about 4 months because of work and school, back for now as time allows lol. I am working on a heavy armor magicka dk similar to yours because I like running non-meta builds and try to make them work. During 1.6, I found a good templar build that I was proud of, but sadly it can't stand up to everything else now.

Thanks for the input! I don't know what happened while I was gone, but I can see what you mean about how the game is changing from solo roaming to zergball groups. I have no idea what changed!

What is also weird is they reduced damage, but I seriously die much faster now than in 1.6, can't quite figure this game out any more lol.

KenaPKK · January 2016

I feel like watching this again. ^^

Vynist · January 2016

May I ask what sets you are running? Im trying seducer heavy and even then it's hard to get good sustain.

Jules · January 2016

blabafat wrote: »

Ah I don't get included in the thank you message

I see. I see I see.

Honestly, to be honest, did you deserve that thanks tho?

Ghostbane · January 2016

Jules wrote: »

blabafat wrote: »

Ah I don't get included in the thank you message

I see. I see I see.

Honestly, to be honest, did you deserve that thanks tho?

In all honestly, I don't think you are being very honest. Honestly!

Glory · January 2016

I am honestly getting lost in all the honesty... AKA I'm tired and confused at work.

Vynist wrote: »

May I ask what sets you are running? Im trying seducer heavy and even then it's hard to get good sustain.

I'm running the following (may my secrets be revealed),:

Bloodspawn Head, Light Impen since that's what I was given
Bloodspawn Shoulder, Heavy Impen since that's what I was given
Kagrenac Chest, Pants, Boots, Belt, Gloves, with infused on big and impenetrable on small (4 heavy with medium gloves)
2 Willpower healthy rings, magicka regen glyph
1 Willpower arcane necklace, spell damage glyph
Torug's Pact S&B on DPS bar, nirnhoned/infused with disease and max magicka enchant
Endurance S&B on off bar, defending/infused with absorb magicka (I think?) and max health enchant

Ideally I would have mostly prismatic enchants, but I currently only have 1 (since they're a ton of $$). Torug's Pact S&B gives me extra damage alongside the max magicka on main bar, while Endurance backbar increases my health by ~2.5k depending on buffs, resulting in a better Coagulating Blood.

With that, I sit around 2000 spell damage with 2000 unbuffed magicka regeneration. If you're running seducer I'd think you'd be okay on sustain with pots and ultimates (more so than me), but it may be related to your playstyle (if you like casting expensive spells etc.).

Quick, someone post a build video of my exact setup! (I would consider doing so, but I dislike the "you stole my build" thing going around so I'd only do it if people asked)

Vynist · January 2016

ebethke_ESO wrote: »

I am honestly getting lost in all the honesty... AKA I'm tired and confused at work.

Vynist wrote: »

May I ask what sets you are running? Im trying seducer heavy and even then it's hard to get good sustain.

I'm running the following (may my secrets be revealed),:
Bloodspawn Head, Light Impen since that's what I was given

Bloodspawn Shoulder, Heavy Impen since that's what I was given

Kagrenac Chest, Pants, Boots, Belt, Gloves, with infused on big and impenetrable on small (4 heavy with medium gloves)

2 Willpower healthy rings, magicka regen glyph

1 Willpower arcane necklace, spell damage glyph

Torug's Pact S&B on DPS bar, nirnhoned/infused with disease and max magicka enchant

Endurance S&B on off bar, defending/infused with absorb magicka (I think?) and max health enchant

Ideally I would have mostly prismatic enchants, but I currently only have 1 (since they're a ton of $$). Torug's Pact S&B gives me extra damage alongside the max magicka on main bar, while Endurance backbar increases my health by ~2.5k depending on buffs, resulting in a better Coagulating Blood.

With that, I sit around 2000 spell damage with 2000 unbuffed magicka regeneration. If you're running seducer I'd think you'd be okay on sustain with pots and ultimates (more so than me), but it may be related to your playstyle (if you like casting expensive spells etc.).

Quick, someone post a build video of my exact setup! (I would consider doing so, but I dislike the "you stole my build" thing going around so I'd only do it if people asked)

Thanks for the info! I will probably run something similar when I'm ready to get geared up.

To make this work, I would probably need the Undaunted passives I'm assuming. Should I drop vamp while I do the dailies or something? I've hardly done any PvE, and it stinks I need to PvE to get undaunted passives lol

Ghostbane · January 2016

ebethke_ESO wrote: »

I am honestly getting lost in all the honesty... AKA I'm tired and confused at work.

Vynist wrote: »

May I ask what sets you are running? Im trying seducer heavy and even then it's hard to get good sustain.

I'm running the following (may my secrets be revealed),:
Bloodspawn Head, Light Impen since that's what I was given

Bloodspawn Shoulder, Heavy Impen since that's what I was given

Kagrenac Chest, Pants, Boots, Belt, Gloves, with infused on big and impenetrable on small (4 heavy with medium gloves)

2 Willpower healthy rings, magicka regen glyph

1 Willpower arcane necklace, spell damage glyph

Torug's Pact S&B on DPS bar, nirnhoned/infused with disease and max magicka enchant

Endurance S&B on off bar, defending/infused with absorb magicka (I think?) and max health enchant

Ideally I would have mostly prismatic enchants, but I currently only have 1 (since they're a ton of $$). Torug's Pact S&B gives me extra damage alongside the max magicka on main bar, while Endurance backbar increases my health by ~2.5k depending on buffs, resulting in a better Coagulating Blood.

With that, I sit around 2000 spell damage with 2000 unbuffed magicka regeneration. If you're running seducer I'd think you'd be okay on sustain with pots and ultimates (more so than me), but it may be related to your playstyle (if you like casting expensive spells etc.).

Quick, someone post a build video of my exact setup! (I would consider doing so, but I dislike the "you stole my build" thing going around so I'd only do it if people asked)

This is very similar to how I am setup, and it is working well. Some differences are that I've opted for Cost Reduction over Magicka Regen to give that a whirl, and I have noticed a big difference.

My main is an Imperial, their stats are 30k Health, 32k Magicka, 20k Stam. With double sword and board the Spell Damage is 2.2k - 2.8k, with DW, 2.5k - 3.2k ( still experimenting with this one )

The setup in general on a DK is exceptionally tanky, more tanky than necessary with the need for more damage with duo S+B. For example, before patch maintenance this morning with DW+SnB I noticed an irregularity on my stats after playing for over an hour. I was wearing zero jewellery.

Glory · January 2016

Ghostbane wrote: »

This is very similar to how I am setup, and it is working well. Some differences are that I've opted for Cost Reduction over Magicka Regen to give that a whirl, and I have noticed a big difference.

My main is an Imperial, their stats are 30k Health, 32k Magicka, 20k Stam. With double sword and board the Spell Damage is 2.2k - 2.8k, with DW, 2.5k - 3.2k ( still experimenting with this one )

The setup in general on a DK is exceptionally tanky, more tanky than necessary with the need for more damage with duo S+B. For example, before patch maintenance this morning with DW+SnB I noticed an irregularity on my stats after playing for over an hour. I was wearing zero jewellery.

I've noticed pretty much the same thing. Your stats sound way better than mine (prismatic?). I've noticed that I'm reasonably tanky with this setup as you've said, but it's tough to punch in kills with the damage output.

I'm waiting for ZOSE to change the PTS to NA so I can test the difference between cost reduction and regeneration. I'm pretty bad with the calculations since it's a bit tough to work with so few formulas, but I'll try to compare/contrast. My magicka sustain was very good with draw essence return, but I had to switch to deep breath to interrupt the rezz monkeys.

Ghostbane · January 2016

ebethke_ESO wrote: »

Ghostbane wrote: »

This is very similar to how I am setup, and it is working well. Some differences are that I've opted for Cost Reduction over Magicka Regen to give that a whirl, and I have noticed a big difference.

My main is an Imperial, their stats are 30k Health, 32k Magicka, 20k Stam. With double sword and board the Spell Damage is 2.2k - 2.8k, with DW, 2.5k - 3.2k ( still experimenting with this one )

The setup in general on a DK is exceptionally tanky, more tanky than necessary with the need for more damage with duo S+B. For example, before patch maintenance this morning with DW+SnB I noticed an irregularity on my stats after playing for over an hour. I was wearing zero jewellery.

I've noticed pretty much the same thing. Your stats sound way better than mine (prismatic?). I've noticed that I'm reasonably tanky with this setup as you've said, but it's tough to punch in kills with the damage output.

I'm waiting for ZOSE to change the PTS to NA so I can test the difference between cost reduction and regeneration. I'm pretty bad with the calculations since it's a bit tough to work with so few formulas, but I'll try to compare/contrast. My magicka sustain was very good with draw essence return, but I had to switch to deep breath to interrupt the rezz monkeys.

Yeah, prismatics on the big pieces with infused, normal magicka on the small pieces with impen. Then prismatics on the infused shields.

I did cost reduction this time round, because buff magicka regen is easy on the fly with Mages guild, pots, Support abilities and Continuous attacks. I'd rather have 1.5kish regen with low cost abilities, than 2.4k regen with super high cost abilities.

As far as I am aware, these forumlas are accurate enough, http://tamrielfoundry.com/topic/pts-2-1-2-sorcerer-arithmagic/

Takllin · January 2016

Ghostbane wrote: »

ebethke_ESO wrote: »

Ghostbane wrote: »

This is very similar to how I am setup, and it is working well. Some differences are that I've opted for Cost Reduction over Magicka Regen to give that a whirl, and I have noticed a big difference.

My main is an Imperial, their stats are 30k Health, 32k Magicka, 20k Stam. With double sword and board the Spell Damage is 2.2k - 2.8k, with DW, 2.5k - 3.2k ( still experimenting with this one )

The setup in general on a DK is exceptionally tanky, more tanky than necessary with the need for more damage with duo S+B. For example, before patch maintenance this morning with DW+SnB I noticed an irregularity on my stats after playing for over an hour. I was wearing zero jewellery.

I've noticed pretty much the same thing. Your stats sound way better than mine (prismatic?). I've noticed that I'm reasonably tanky with this setup as you've said, but it's tough to punch in kills with the damage output.

I'm waiting for ZOSE to change the PTS to NA so I can test the difference between cost reduction and regeneration. I'm pretty bad with the calculations since it's a bit tough to work with so few formulas, but I'll try to compare/contrast. My magicka sustain was very good with draw essence return, but I had to switch to deep breath to interrupt the rezz monkeys.

Yeah, prismatics on the big pieces with infused, normal magicka on the small pieces with impen. Then prismatics on the infused shields.

I did cost reduction this time round, because buff magicka regen is easy on the fly with Mages guild, pots, Support abilities and Continuous attacks. I'd rather have 1.5kish regen with low cost abilities, than 2.4k regen with super high cost abilities.

As far as I am aware, these forumlas are accurate enough, http://tamrielfoundry.com/topic/pts-2-1-2-sorcerer-arithmagic/

Yeah we've been theorycrafting a bit, and it seems like the reduction is far better than regen, unless your High Elf, it gets a bit sticky there because you've got the racial passive regen boost. Reduction also really helps for Mistform, I always forget how much that costs and it negates any magicka regen.

Also swapping Mundus to Apprentice instead of Atro is an interesting discussion as well, but for High Elf again it's not as clear cut.

Glory · January 2016

Ghostbane wrote: »

http://tamrielfoundry.com/topic/pts-2-1-2-sorcerer-arithmagic/

Hnnnngh. So good

Ghostbane · January 2016

ebethke_ESO wrote: »

Ghostbane wrote: »

http://tamrielfoundry.com/topic/pts-2-1-2-sorcerer-arithmagic/

Hnnnngh. So good

*Passes baby wipes*

I know man. I know.