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forget race change we need a class change
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theher0not✭✭✭✭✭YurtTheSilentChief wrote: »I do not want to level up a nightblade to vr16 please make class change.so I can switch my stamina sorcerer to a nightblade I made a sorcerer in the beginning on console cause I thought you could play the way you want. but it isn't true with all the limitations a stamina sorcerer has. had I known at the time I would of leveled up a nightblade. now I don't enjoy the game as much cause I'm playing a class I hate.think about putting life into the game a again for some players who are like me and make class change a thing.
For all I know zenimax will not implement this....... and do stop posting for a class change because I tried it once and the rest of people in this forum disagrees with it ( god knows why?)
I suggests you to ditch this game for good like I have moved from ESO to FFXIV ARR (ffxiv as what you call "Play the way you want" in it. There is a race(buy online), flying mount and class change as well you can take some abilities from your pervious class and add them but the only downside is its combat is not fast and uses a subscription based model)
If you have stoped playing ESO why are you still on the forum?7 -
found1779✭✭✭theher0not wrote: »YurtTheSilentChief wrote: »I do not want to level up a nightblade to vr16 please make class change.so I can switch my stamina sorcerer to a nightblade I made a sorcerer in the beginning on console cause I thought you could play the way you want. but it isn't true with all the limitations a stamina sorcerer has. had I known at the time I would of leveled up a nightblade. now I don't enjoy the game as much cause I'm playing a class I hate.think about putting life into the game a again for some players who are like me and make class change a thing.
For all I know zenimax will not implement this....... and do stop posting for a class change because I tried it once and the rest of people in this forum disagrees with it ( god knows why?)
I suggests you to ditch this game for good like I have moved from ESO to FFXIV ARR (ffxiv as what you call "Play the way you want" in it. There is a race(buy online), flying mount and class change as well you can take some abilities from your pervious class and add them but the only downside is its combat is not fast and uses a subscription based model)
If you have stoped playing ESO why are you still on the forum?
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Van_0S✭✭✭✭✭By switching classes we are able to also take some of it's active and passive abilities.
But let the passive slots be limited like you can replace 2 slots of your current class passive with your pervious class passive. Similarly, with the active abilities but can only work when a passive ability of that class is in your slot.
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Magdalina✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭And we will have streaking breath-of-life-ing players running around spamming Overload while profitting from Battle Roar passive every time they activate it. No thank you, it's unbalanced enough as it is.
(Forgive me for not mentioning NB skills, I'm just not too familiar with their names)0 -
Lysette✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭i don't know, why ZOS is going for race change but not for class change. The FotM argument could be easily circumvented by allowing such a change just once per character. This would allow someone who discovers late that he would have been better off with a class that suits him to do a final adjustment and change to that class. Race changes have a lot more issues coming with them, while class changes would be quite simple to implement - but as i said, due to the FotM argument, it should be limited to a 1-time-change only.1 -
Flameheart✭✭✭✭✭Instead of a character selection menu I would just present an order template where you are able to fill out the following:
-Race ?
-Class ?
-male/female
-if female -> big boobs ?
-Lvl ?
-stamina build/morphs ?
-magicka build morphs ?
-crafting maxed ?
-how many skyshards ?
-how many skillpoints unlocked ?
-equipment ?
-achievements ?
-> Create Character ?
-> Congratulations, you are a Breton NB V16 with big boobs and legendary equipment according to your order.
-> Congratulations you have the maximum achievement score, you have won the game
-> As consequence that you have won the game, we already canceled your account and any subscription.
We wish you a wonderful day
Sincerely
Zenimax
....omg, just wait a few weeks and the VR system will be gone. Getting to lvl 50 is doable in less than five days.Edited by Flameheart on January 4, 2016 10:42AMSometimes the prey turns and nips us... it's a small thing.
So let the snow flakes and unicorns dance alone until they melt or vanish from existence, we will finish up with those smart enough to stay in the glowing circle of love.
Selissi - CP 1k+ Redguard Stamina Nightblade (Ebonheart Pact)
Silmerel - CP 1k+ Breton Magicka Templar (Ebonheart Pact)
Sunja - CP 1k+ Dunmer Magicka Nightblade (Ebonheart Pact)
Suldreni - CP 1k+ Dunmer Magicka Dragonknight (Ebonheart Pact)
Sulhelka - CP 1k+ Altmer Magicka Sorcerer (Ebonheart Pact)
Sylundine - CP 1k+ Breton Magicka Warden (Ebonheart Pact)1 -
FilteredRiddle✭✭✭✭Or ZOS can not forget about race change, and maybe consider class change? Either way, I eagerly await the ability to finally utilize the Imperial race, to which I gained access post-purchase & character creation. That pesky "money" thing...Xbox One NA
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- Jane McGonigal0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭So you change whatever class you are bad at now to a new class where you will be worse because you didn't learn the new class's skills by leveling them up.
Makes sense to me.
Edited by TequilaFire on January 4, 2016 11:33AM5 -
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✭✭✭✭Absolutely not to class change. Everyone would switch to FOTM. Awful idea.
It's not hard to grind to v16. You don't even have to thanks to battle levelling. My vet 4 nb rinses in pvp. So does my vet 1 stam Sorc.0 -
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✭✭FilteredRiddle wrote: »Or ZOS can not forget about race change, and maybe consider class change? Either way, I eagerly await the ability to finally utilize the Imperial race, to which I gained access post-purchase & character creation. That pesky "money" thing...
What's preventing you from making a second character an Imperial?0 -
found1779✭✭✭FilteredRiddle wrote: »Or ZOS can not forget about race change, and maybe consider class change? Either way, I eagerly await the ability to finally utilize the Imperial race, to which I gained access post-purchase & character creation. That pesky "money" thing...
What's preventing you from making a second character an Imperial?
Because leveling them up from start to finnish is a hassle just because we don't have the option to switch are race/class2 -
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✭✭✭✭✭No you Wouldn't the class change would unlock every line you have completed just on the new class say summoning for example if you already maxed out that skill line as a sorcerer then it would just translate over to the new class you pick
WRONG... because only the Sorcerer line has SUMMONING and not everyone unlocks EVERY ability and morph in their skill lines. So if I switch classes, the abilities are completely different, so it wouldn't make sense to have them already unlocked. It would work just like Vampire. If you level the Vampire skill line, but only to a certain level and then get cured, once you become a Vampire again you only unlock what you had previously leveled... same would apply to a class change.CP: 2078 ** ESO+ 2025 Content Pass ** ~~ ***** Strictly a solo PvE quester *****
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found1779✭✭✭No you Wouldn't the class change would unlock every line you have completed just on the new class say summoning for example if you already maxed out that skill line as a sorcerer then it would just translate over to the new class you pick
WRONG... because only the Sorcerer line has SUMMONING and not everyone unlocks EVERY ability and morph in their skill lines. So if I switch classes, the abilities are completely different, so it wouldn't make sense to have them already unlocked. It would work just like Vampire. If you level the Vampire skill line, but only to a certain level and then get cured, once you become a Vampire again you only unlock what you had previously leveled... same would apply to a class change.
Even so i Wouldn't mind having to level up the skill lines as long as the class i really wanted was on my vr 16 character0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭GreenSoup2HoT wrote: »This is Eso, this is a magical world where polymorph's and magical spell's exist. There could be a quest in the Mage Guild that could go into a long process to race change. ...
But not classes, of course. In this magical world, it's apparently unthinkable to change your profession, it's just something your character's born with.
Unlike your race, which everyone can change like yesterday's underpants.
m(Alandrol Sul: He's making another Numidium?!?
Vivec: Worse, buddy. They're buying it.0 -
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I guess it sucks to suck buddy.Level a Alt stop asking for everything to be handed to you and work for something.Leveling your first character takes a while but the second and all after that is way quicker than at first.Am really starting to think this isn't the game for you.FilteredRiddle wrote: »Or ZOS can not forget about race change, and maybe consider class change? Either way, I eagerly await the ability to finally utilize the Imperial race, to which I gained access post-purchase & character creation. That pesky "money" thing...
What's preventing you from making a second character an Imperial?
Because leveling them up from start to finnish is a hassle just because we don't have the option to switch are race/class3 -
found1779✭✭✭
I guess it sucks to suck buddy.Level a Alt stop asking for everything to be handed to you and work for something.Leveling your first character takes a while but the second and all after that is way quicker than at first.Am really starting to think this isn't the game for you.FilteredRiddle wrote: »Or ZOS can not forget about race change, and maybe consider class change? Either way, I eagerly await the ability to finally utilize the Imperial race, to which I gained access post-purchase & character creation. That pesky "money" thing...
What's preventing you from making a second character an Imperial?
Because leveling them up from start to finnish is a hassle just because we don't have the option to switch are race/class
Why did i unignore you just to see this0 -
Oldmanlawlor✭✭✭✭What I think would be nice, fair and also acknowledging dedicated players; would be that each character gets a 10% exp boost from all sources for each VR16 character we have.
So for example I only have one VR16 - A Templar. So, my current night made should recieve a 10% boost.
A player with four VR16's should get a 40% boost to their characters.
I think that would be fair.0 -
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I guess it sucks to suck buddy.Level a Alt stop asking for everything to be handed to you and work for something.Leveling your first character takes a while but the second and all after that is way quicker than at first.Am really starting to think this isn't the game for you.FilteredRiddle wrote: »Or ZOS can not forget about race change, and maybe consider class change? Either way, I eagerly await the ability to finally utilize the Imperial race, to which I gained access post-purchase & character creation. That pesky "money" thing...
What's preventing you from making a second character an Imperial?
Because leveling them up from start to finnish is a hassle just because we don't have the option to switch are race/class
So, how is this different from people who want a race change?
"Suck it up and level an Imperial alt if you don't like your Argonian no more."Alandrol Sul: He's making another Numidium?!?
Vivec: Worse, buddy. They're buying it.0 -
ADarklore✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Even so i Wouldn't mind having to level up the skill lines as long as the class i really wanted was on my vr 16 character
Alts will become much easier once VR is removed... then all you have to do is level to 50 and then use CP to reach max level on your alt.
However, I do see your point in wanting to upgrade your main... for me, I've put a lot of money into my Magicka Sorc main, with inventory, crafting motifs, mount upgrades, etc. Now I'm enjoying my Magicka Nightblade much more, so now I'm looking at investing even more money into upgrading him... whereas if I could switch classes on my Sorc, it would be much less expensive. But perhaps that is exactly WHY ZOS won't give us class changes... so that we have to continually invest real money or in-game gold to upgrade our alts.CP: 2078 ** ESO+ 2025 Content Pass ** ~~ ***** Strictly a solo PvE quester *****
~~Started Playing: May 2015 | Stopped Playing: July 2025~~0 -
found1779✭✭✭Even so i Wouldn't mind having to level up the skill lines as long as the class i really wanted was on my vr 16 character
Alts will become much easier once VR is removed... then all you have to do is level to 50 and then use CP to reach max level on your alt.
However, I do see your point in wanting to upgrade your main... for me, I've put a lot of money into my Magicka Sorc main, with inventory, crafting motifs, mount upgrades, etc. Now I'm enjoying my Magicka Nightblade much more, so now I'm looking at investing even more money into upgrading him... whereas if I could switch classes on my Sorc, it would be much less expensive. But perhaps that is exactly WHY ZOS won't give us class changes... so that we have to continually invest real money or in-game gold to upgrade our alts.
Wouldn't doubt it they have some reason why they aren't wanting to implement it. i just wished they would i'm tired of playing a class i do not like anymore. leveling up a new character to vr 16 plus there skill lines just seems like it would take forever. i honestly tryed to level up a stamina knightblade got to level 16 and quit. got to bored doing it plus then there is the matter of having to do the main story again and cadwells silver and gold so boring.2 -
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One reply and you already blocked me I most have talent for pointing out stupid.
I guess it sucks to suck buddy.Level a Alt stop asking for everything to be handed to you and work for something.Leveling your first character takes a while but the second and all after that is way quicker than at first.Am really starting to think this isn't the game for you.FilteredRiddle wrote: »Or ZOS can not forget about race change, and maybe consider class change? Either way, I eagerly await the ability to finally utilize the Imperial race, to which I gained access post-purchase & character creation. That pesky "money" thing...
What's preventing you from making a second character an Imperial?
Because leveling them up from start to finnish is a hassle just because we don't have the option to switch are race/class
Why did i unignore you just to see this
It's not he is talking about Class changes not race which I am ok with.Class changes is just someone being lazy and not trying to do the content.Level up Alts is apart of the game it's how you experience new things and learn.It what's some PVPers do you level up other classes and learn how their strength and weakness and what works best for you with that class.Class changes is just messing up that whole process and you learn nothing.What's the point of playing if not to improve yourself and have fun?
I guess it sucks to suck buddy.Level a Alt stop asking for everything to be handed to you and work for something.Leveling your first character takes a while but the second and all after that is way quicker than at first.Am really starting to think this isn't the game for you.FilteredRiddle wrote: »Or ZOS can not forget about race change, and maybe consider class change? Either way, I eagerly await the ability to finally utilize the Imperial race, to which I gained access post-purchase & character creation. That pesky "money" thing...
What's preventing you from making a second character an Imperial?
Because leveling them up from start to finnish is a hassle just because we don't have the option to switch are race/class
So, how is this different from people who want a race change?
"Suck it up and level an Imperial alt if you don't like your Argonian no more."1 -
Sevalaricgirl✭✭✭✭✭SevenKingdoms wrote: »To be fair, the game doesn't seem to offer much for repeated playthroughs. Perhaps with The Old Republic, which offered a degree of alteration through dialogue choices, but this story isn't exactly stellar to just "play the game" all over again.
If you're talking about Knights of the Fallen Empire in TOR, I left the game because I wasn't going to take 10 characters through contrived end game content. BW left their "Your Choices Count" spiel in the garbage on their way out. The 1-50 leveling is excellent in both games. Level 50-60 in SWTOR is not good. Level 60-65 is worth playing once.
ESO, on the other hand, also needs to change their end game, not because the content isn't good but because they have no end game. What's that you say, ZOS, my Bosmer has to go to the other alliances and start all over again. She's a Bosmer.
The thing ESO has going for it is Orsinium and the fact that I think the new content will be of the same quality. SWTOR even dropped the PC voice acting in their side quests and then pretended it was a throwback.
Now to get this post back on the OP topic, I think it would be much easier to do a class switch than a race switch or an alliance switch but no MMO that I've played allows for class changes. They have a hard enough time with balance. I don't think you will ever see it in ESO.0 -
Refuse2GrowUp✭✭✭✭✭GreenSoup2HoT wrote: »The only thing i would not mind is Race Change. There is no reason why player's should not be able to change race. You would still need to go through the process of leveling the race though.
This is Eso, this is a magical world where polymorph's and magical spell's exist. There could be a quest in the Mage Guild that could go into a long process to race change. Each race could have a long quest line where you experience what it's like to be the race your changing in to. You go into a different dimension and swap bodies with yourself who is the race you want. Just a quick work around to make it sound plausible and there you have it.
Although I see ZOS making it a simple crown store purchase to change type of option, I think your idea would add a really cool layer of immersion to changing races. +1 from me. Start a separate thread on the subject so that ZOS may take notice, as I am sure they completely disregard anything started by OP.
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Refuse2GrowUp✭✭✭✭✭And we will have streaking breath-of-life-ing players running around spamming Overload while profitting from Battle Roar passive every time they activate it. No thank you, it's unbalanced enough as it is.
(Forgive me for not mentioning NB skills, I'm just not too familiar with their names)
How can you not be familiar with some nB skills??!! If you have done any PvP at all, you will certainly have seen Spambush on your death recap constantly LMAOPS4 NA Server
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