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is caltraps suppose to be a stamina builds magicka detnation

  • found1779
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    found1779 wrote: »
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    There you go, buddy.

    You and trolls like you is what ruins the forums When someone post something on here and you guys come in like the annoyance you are and start bashing the post someone has made honestly if you do not like that i do not use periods and such you all have the option to block me that simple but instead you would rather come and bash every post i make god grow up and use the options you and ppl like you have

    Could you seriously please use basic grammer, full stop capital letter, commas? People will likely answer you more seriously.

    Could you stop posting if it has nothing to do with the thread
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    found1779 wrote: »
    Ruben wrote: »
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    There you go, buddy.

    You and trolls like you is what ruins the forums When someone post something on here and you guys come in like the annoyance you are and start bashing the post someone has made honestly if you do not like that i do not use periods and such you all have the option to block me that simple but instead you would rather come and bash every post i make god grow up and use the options you and ppl like you have

    actually the the posts i see of you aren't the best...
    most of the time you are just QQ about something and people tend to react on that.
    if you can't deal with it go of the internet cause this will be always there
  • leepalmer95
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    found1779 wrote: »
    found1779 wrote: »
    Ruben wrote: »
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    There you go, buddy.

    You and trolls like you is what ruins the forums When someone post something on here and you guys come in like the annoyance you are and start bashing the post someone has made honestly if you do not like that i do not use periods and such you all have the option to block me that simple but instead you would rather come and bash every post i make god grow up and use the options you and ppl like you have

    Could you seriously please use basic grammer, full stop capital letter, commas? People will likely answer you more seriously.

    Could you stop posting if it has nothing to do with the thread
    found1779 wrote: »
    found1779 wrote: »
    Ruben wrote: »
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    There you go, buddy.

    You and trolls like you is what ruins the forums When someone post something on here and you guys come in like the annoyance you are and start bashing the post someone has made honestly if you do not like that i do not use periods and such you all have the option to block me that simple but instead you would rather come and bash every post i make god grow up and use the options you and ppl like you have

    Could you seriously please use basic grammer, full stop capital letter, commas? People will likely answer you more seriously.

    Could you stop posting if it has nothing to do with the thread

    It has everything to do with the thread, can you stop posting useless thread complaining about things that you haven't even googled.

    Your also the same guy they had like 15hp and 20k stamina and cried nerf when some tank character killed you.
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    Current CP : 756+

    I have every character level 50, both a magicka and stamina version.


    RIP my effort to get 5x v16 characters...
  • Destruent
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    found1779 wrote: »
    Cathexis wrote: »
    Proxy det is way more practical than caltrops. Caltrops might be as good if it cost about 1/3 of the casting cost.

    Yes and the damage it does per second is a joke the damage needs increased it does cause atm it hits light i literally see people just standing in them cause it does nothing hardly and this is suppose to benefit stamina builds ha idk how unless you just want an aoe that last for awhile you can throw down and get ap from i guess when there is a group of people going at it cause It's not very effective 1 vs 1

    Maybe it's not for 1v1? you can snare a whole raid with this skill and it's a great stamina-DoT for PvE (usually does around 1.5...2k DPS ST). Just accept, that this skill doesn't fit your playstile. i think you won't slot things like arrow barrage/Rending Slashes/rapid strikes if you specc for burst DPS, don't you?
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  • Ruben
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    found1779 wrote: »
    Ruben wrote: »
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    There you go, buddy.

    You and trolls like you is what ruins the forums When someone post something on here and you guys come in like the annoyance you are and start bashing the post someone has made honestly if you do not like that i do not use periods and such you all have the option to block me that simple but instead you would rather come and bash every post i make god grow up and use the options you and ppl like you have

    I made the mistake of trying to help you a few times in the past. The problem is that you do not accept any kind of help or advice, you only want people to say "yes, mister, you ARE right! how could we not see that before?".

    Stop wasting everyone's time until you know how discussions work. And punctuation.
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  • found1779
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    Artjuh90 wrote: »
    found1779 wrote: »
    Ruben wrote: »
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    There you go, buddy.

    You and trolls like you is what ruins the forums When someone post something on here and you guys come in like the annoyance you are and start bashing the post someone has made honestly if you do not like that i do not use periods and such you all have the option to block me that simple but instead you would rather come and bash every post i make god grow up and use the options you and ppl like you have

    actually the the posts i see of you aren't the best...
    most of the time you are just QQ about something and people tend to react on that.
    if you can't deal with it go of the internet cause this will be always there

    If this is just humanity in general we need to check are selves then my gosh were have all the nice people gone to all i see is negative negative negative anymore on these forums about stuff that doesn't even matter do people not understand that not everyone is as smart as the other person and some might not know how to do stuff like others but that doesn't mean that person should be insulted just for there lack there of it's not there fault they are that way
    Edited by found1779 on January 3, 2016 2:23AM
  • found1779
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    Destruent wrote: »
    found1779 wrote: »
    Cathexis wrote: »
    Proxy det is way more practical than caltrops. Caltrops might be as good if it cost about 1/3 of the casting cost.

    Yes and the damage it does per second is a joke the damage needs increased it does cause atm it hits light i literally see people just standing in them cause it does nothing hardly and this is suppose to benefit stamina builds ha idk how unless you just want an aoe that last for awhile you can throw down and get ap from i guess when there is a group of people going at it cause It's not very effective 1 vs 1

    Maybe it's not for 1v1? you can snare a whole raid with this skill and it's a great stamina-DoT for PvE (usually does around 1.5...2k DPS ST). Just accept, that this skill doesn't fit your playstile. i think you won't slot things like arrow barrage/Rending Slashes/rapid strikes if you specc for burst DPS, don't you?

    Yeah i like burst dps moves i'm a stamina sorcerer and the only move i have atm thats even close to burst damage is wrecking blow i just figured since assult line is for everyone and there is a magicka burst move in assult why isnt there a stamina burst move also it leads me to believe this game is more built for magicka players then stamina ones that's why i think caltrops should do more damage or have a stamina morph for magicka detnation
    Edited by found1779 on January 3, 2016 2:30AM
  • leepalmer95
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    found1779 wrote: »
    Destruent wrote: »
    found1779 wrote: »
    Cathexis wrote: »
    Proxy det is way more practical than caltrops. Caltrops might be as good if it cost about 1/3 of the casting cost.

    Yes and the damage it does per second is a joke the damage needs increased it does cause atm it hits light i literally see people just standing in them cause it does nothing hardly and this is suppose to benefit stamina builds ha idk how unless you just want an aoe that last for awhile you can throw down and get ap from i guess when there is a group of people going at it cause It's not very effective 1 vs 1

    Maybe it's not for 1v1? you can snare a whole raid with this skill and it's a great stamina-DoT for PvE (usually does around 1.5...2k DPS ST). Just accept, that this skill doesn't fit your playstile. i think you won't slot things like arrow barrage/Rending Slashes/rapid strikes if you specc for burst DPS, don't you?

    Yeah i like burst dps moves i'm a stamina sorcerer and the only move i have atm thats even close to burst damage is wrecking blow i just figured since assult line is for everyone and there is a magicka burst move in assult why isnt there a stamina burst move it leads me to believe this game is more built for magicka players then stamina ones that's why i think caltrops should do more damage or have a stamina morph for magicka detnation

    So then shouldn't magicka builds get a magicka morph of caltraps or vigor?
    PS4 EU DC

    Current CP : 756+

    I have every character level 50, both a magicka and stamina version.


    RIP my effort to get 5x v16 characters...
  • Destruent
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    found1779 wrote: »
    Destruent wrote: »
    found1779 wrote: »
    Cathexis wrote: »
    Proxy det is way more practical than caltrops. Caltrops might be as good if it cost about 1/3 of the casting cost.

    Yes and the damage it does per second is a joke the damage needs increased it does cause atm it hits light i literally see people just standing in them cause it does nothing hardly and this is suppose to benefit stamina builds ha idk how unless you just want an aoe that last for awhile you can throw down and get ap from i guess when there is a group of people going at it cause It's not very effective 1 vs 1

    Maybe it's not for 1v1? you can snare a whole raid with this skill and it's a great stamina-DoT for PvE (usually does around 1.5...2k DPS ST). Just accept, that this skill doesn't fit your playstile. i think you won't slot things like arrow barrage/Rending Slashes/rapid strikes if you specc for burst DPS, don't you?

    Yeah i like burst dps moves i'm a stamina sorcerer and the only move i have atm thats even close to burst damage is wrecking blow i just figured since assult line is for everyone and there is a magicka burst move in assult why isnt there a stamina burst move also it leads me to believe this game is more built for magicka players then stamina ones that's why i think caltrops should do more damage or have a stamina morph for magicka detnation

    as someone mentioned in the thread...stam builds do already have enough burst. If you don't have, it's your equip/skills and not the games fault.

    btw. anti cavalry caltrops do 50k+ dmg per cast...there are not so much Dots ingame with this high dmg per cast
    Noobplar
  • found1779
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    found1779 wrote: »
    Destruent wrote: »
    found1779 wrote: »
    Cathexis wrote: »
    Proxy det is way more practical than caltrops. Caltrops might be as good if it cost about 1/3 of the casting cost.

    Yes and the damage it does per second is a joke the damage needs increased it does cause atm it hits light i literally see people just standing in them cause it does nothing hardly and this is suppose to benefit stamina builds ha idk how unless you just want an aoe that last for awhile you can throw down and get ap from i guess when there is a group of people going at it cause It's not very effective 1 vs 1

    Maybe it's not for 1v1? you can snare a whole raid with this skill and it's a great stamina-DoT for PvE (usually does around 1.5...2k DPS ST). Just accept, that this skill doesn't fit your playstile. i think you won't slot things like arrow barrage/Rending Slashes/rapid strikes if you specc for burst DPS, don't you?

    Yeah i like burst dps moves i'm a stamina sorcerer and the only move i have atm thats even close to burst damage is wrecking blow i just figured since assult line is for everyone and there is a magicka burst move in assult why isnt there a stamina burst move it leads me to believe this game is more built for magicka players then stamina ones that's why i think caltrops should do more damage or have a stamina morph for magicka detnation

    So then shouldn't magicka builds get a magicka morph of caltraps or vigor?

    Yes it's why i made a thread awhile back wondering why we can not choose a move to scale the way the person wants it to either off of stamina or magicka cause atm i feel like i'm being told there is only a certain way a person can play
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    found1779 wrote: »
    found1779 wrote: »
    Destruent wrote: »
    found1779 wrote: »
    Cathexis wrote: »
    Proxy det is way more practical than caltrops. Caltrops might be as good if it cost about 1/3 of the casting cost.

    Yes and the damage it does per second is a joke the damage needs increased it does cause atm it hits light i literally see people just standing in them cause it does nothing hardly and this is suppose to benefit stamina builds ha idk how unless you just want an aoe that last for awhile you can throw down and get ap from i guess when there is a group of people going at it cause It's not very effective 1 vs 1

    Maybe it's not for 1v1? you can snare a whole raid with this skill and it's a great stamina-DoT for PvE (usually does around 1.5...2k DPS ST). Just accept, that this skill doesn't fit your playstile. i think you won't slot things like arrow barrage/Rending Slashes/rapid strikes if you specc for burst DPS, don't you?

    Yeah i like burst dps moves i'm a stamina sorcerer and the only move i have atm thats even close to burst damage is wrecking blow i just figured since assult line is for everyone and there is a magicka burst move in assult why isnt there a stamina burst move it leads me to believe this game is more built for magicka players then stamina ones that's why i think caltrops should do more damage or have a stamina morph for magicka detnation

    So then shouldn't magicka builds get a magicka morph of caltraps or vigor?

    Yes it's why i made a thread awhile back wondering why we can not choose a move to scale the way the person wants it to either off of stamina or magicka cause atm i feel like i'm being told there is only a certain way a person can play

    you want a STAMINA morph for MAGICKA detonation? rly?
    No, there is not only one way to play. But there is always only one most effictive way for a given playstile.
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  • found1779
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    Destruent wrote: »
    found1779 wrote: »
    Destruent wrote: »
    found1779 wrote: »
    Cathexis wrote: »
    Proxy det is way more practical than caltrops. Caltrops might be as good if it cost about 1/3 of the casting cost.

    Yes and the damage it does per second is a joke the damage needs increased it does cause atm it hits light i literally see people just standing in them cause it does nothing hardly and this is suppose to benefit stamina builds ha idk how unless you just want an aoe that last for awhile you can throw down and get ap from i guess when there is a group of people going at it cause It's not very effective 1 vs 1

    Maybe it's not for 1v1? you can snare a whole raid with this skill and it's a great stamina-DoT for PvE (usually does around 1.5...2k DPS ST). Just accept, that this skill doesn't fit your playstile. i think you won't slot things like arrow barrage/Rending Slashes/rapid strikes if you specc for burst DPS, don't you?

    Yeah i like burst dps moves i'm a stamina sorcerer and the only move i have atm thats even close to burst damage is wrecking blow i just figured since assult line is for everyone and there is a magicka burst move in assult why isnt there a stamina burst move also it leads me to believe this game is more built for magicka players then stamina ones that's why i think caltrops should do more damage or have a stamina morph for magicka detnation

    as someone mentioned in the thread...stam builds do already have enough burst. If you don't have, it's your equip/skills and not the games fault.

    btw. anti cavalry caltrops do 50k+ dmg per cast...there are not so much Dots ingame with this high dmg per cast

    Not a stamina sorcerer we only have wrecking blow as a burst damage move it's why i figured since assult line was for everyone that there would be another type burst stamina dps move in it but there isn't
    Edited by found1779 on January 3, 2016 2:39AM
  • leepalmer95
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    found1779 wrote: »
    Destruent wrote: »
    found1779 wrote: »
    Destruent wrote: »
    found1779 wrote: »
    Cathexis wrote: »
    Proxy det is way more practical than caltrops. Caltrops might be as good if it cost about 1/3 of the casting cost.

    Yes and the damage it does per second is a joke the damage needs increased it does cause atm it hits light i literally see people just standing in them cause it does nothing hardly and this is suppose to benefit stamina builds ha idk how unless you just want an aoe that last for awhile you can throw down and get ap from i guess when there is a group of people going at it cause It's not very effective 1 vs 1

    Maybe it's not for 1v1? you can snare a whole raid with this skill and it's a great stamina-DoT for PvE (usually does around 1.5...2k DPS ST). Just accept, that this skill doesn't fit your playstile. i think you won't slot things like arrow barrage/Rending Slashes/rapid strikes if you specc for burst DPS, don't you?

    Yeah i like burst dps moves i'm a stamina sorcerer and the only move i have atm thats even close to burst damage is wrecking blow i just figured since assult line is for everyone and there is a magicka burst move in assult why isnt there a stamina burst move also it leads me to believe this game is more built for magicka players then stamina ones that's why i think caltrops should do more damage or have a stamina morph for magicka detnation

    as someone mentioned in the thread...stam builds do already have enough burst. If you don't have, it's your equip/skills and not the games fault.

    btw. anti cavalry caltrops do 50k+ dmg per cast...there are not so much Dots ingame with this high dmg per cast

    Not a stamina sorcerer we only have wrecking blow as a burst damage move it's why i figured since assult line was for everyone that there would be another type burst stamina dps move in it but there isn't

    You could easily kill someone with just wb though, time your wb with an ult or something for 'burst'.
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    Current CP : 756+

    I have every character level 50, both a magicka and stamina version.


    RIP my effort to get 5x v16 characters...
  • Vaoh
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    Completely. Different. Skills.

    There's no way you can be serious.
  • Van_0S
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    In asura, almost all AD(banana train) and DC( lag train) uses detnation.
  • Refuse2GrowUp
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    In asura, almost all AD(banana train) and DC( lag train) uses detnation.

    EP uses it also. It is a powerful and effective skill when employed correctly. That said, with the exception of 1v1, I can't go into a single battle where Caltrops aren't used as well...either as a counter zerg tool, to pull NBs out of stealth, or simply to aoe a bottleneck/hole in wall. It is a pretty pivotal skill itself. Tho I am sure you know this lol

    Problem is, OP often whines he can't kill anyone and wants everything nerfed/changed. He previously posted a thread calling for DKs to be nerfed because he (OP) was running a garbage build and trying to hit the DK with Bombard, and the DK was able to wipe the ground with him. OP clearly wants a 1-hit wonder, kill anything to compensate for lack of skill, 'magic win' stamina skill. Simply, you can't fix stupid
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  • Shunravi
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    "is caltraps suppose to be a stamina builds magicka detnation"

    No. Not in any way, shape, or form.
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  • Alucardo
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    lol I'm just here because I saw who posted the thread.

    Please, continue.
  • Shunravi
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    Alucardo wrote: »
    lol I'm just here because I saw who posted the thread.

    Please, continue.

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  • Skiserony
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    Yes, please make Caltrops hit as hard as detonation at every proc.

    Bye bye zergs. Bye bye everyone actually.
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    Skiserony wrote: »
    Yes, please make Caltrops hit as hard as detonation at every proc.

    Bye bye zergs. Bye bye everyone actually.

    *PvPers stare forlornely over a field of spikes. They wish they could get close enough to the enemy team for actual combat, but alas the spikes forbid it. Every once in a while a brave stamina sorc tries to shift the battle lines by bolting in a little closer to lay down new calthrops, but their pitiful shields cannot hold long enough to move it very far. The nightblades gave up trying to steath in behind long ago, as the ground beneath the enemy is as littered as the space between the armies. *

    Thus ends pvp.
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  • DDemon
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    I read your first post, but I just didn't want to strain my eyes on the rest of your replies. Quite simply put, caltrops is fine as it is right now, as others have explained in earlier replies, both have their benefits.

    As for your posts and comments, I can only suggest attempting to use some punctuation to make your posts a little easier to read. I can understand that in some parts of the world people lack an understanding of the most basic grammar, but then you owe it to yourself to learn on your own. You do seem to be able to understand what other people are trying to say. Best way to start would be to add a dot (.) after every complete sentence, and start a new line by pressing the Enter key.

    If you are just trolling by trying to act like an uneducated minor, then congratulations, you got me.
    Edited by DDemon on January 3, 2016 10:31AM
  • toxikh.earth89neb18_ESO
    WTF game has so many others thing that are unbalanced and u guys talk abt magika det vs calltroops. The problem is there are so many skill buffs for makica and only 2 for stamina
    Edited by toxikh.earth89neb18_ESO on January 3, 2016 10:55AM
  • Dubhliam
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    found1779 wrote: »
    Just was wondering the last to skills you unlock in assault is caltraps and magicka detnation is caltraps suppose to be the skill that's suppose to be like magicka detnation is only for stamina builds and if it is then why is it not as powerful as magicka detnation caltraps should also be on the same performance level damage wise as magicka detnation but it isn't caltraps should get a damage increase for everyone that's in them also just like magicka detnation gets when your near the person who has it on them

    Is this a single sentence?

    Oh no, wait. If it was it would have a full stop at the end.

    It isn't.

    On topic: I heard you complain about a number of "balance" issues. If you think X is better than Y or that Z is an overpowered skill, why don't you simply start using X and Z?
    Then see for yourself how OP or not OP they are.
    ralonasan wrote: »
    What's a caltrap?

    It is a bear trap made of calcinium.
    Ruben wrote: »
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    There you go, buddy.

    ROFL
    Edited by Dubhliam on January 3, 2016 10:51AM
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  • found1779
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    Explain to me then why the assault skill line has a burst damage move for magicka but it doesn't for stamina when this is suppose to be a shared skill line that's suppose to benefit magicka and stamina players but it only benefits stamina players with a heal that's vigor that's no good if you are a stamina dps tho I don't give a crap about a healing move I want a damn dps move just like magicka players get zos is basically telling me being stamina isn't suppose to be for dps but only for tanks I think this is why the werewolf is the way it is why is werewolf setup more for a tank and not dps ridiculous .
  • found1779
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    WTF game has so many others thing that are unbalanced and u guys talk abt magika det vs calltroops wich is not even the last skill in assault. The problem is there are so many skill buffs for makica and only 2 for stamina

    Exactly
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    found1779 wrote: »
    Explain to me then why the assault skill line has a burst damage move for magicka but it doesn't for stamina when this is suppose to be a shared skill line that's suppose to benefit magicka and stamina players but it only benefits stamina players with a heal that's vigor that's no good if you are a stamina dps tho I don't give a crap about a healing move I want a damn dps move just like magicka players get zos is basically telling me being stamina isn't suppose to be for dps but only for tanks I think this is why the werewolf is the way it is why is werewolf setup more for a tank and not dps ridiculous .

    Wait you just said vigor is useless? Ww isn't high dps, and stamina isn't for dps...

    aaaaannnnd im done.
    WTF game has so many others thing that are unbalanced and u guys talk abt magika det vs calltroops. The problem is there are so many skill buffs for makica and only 2 for stamina

    Skill buff's, what does this mean?
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    Current CP : 756+

    I have every character level 50, both a magicka and stamina version.


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  • Destruent
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    Dubhliam wrote: »
    ralonasan wrote: »
    What's a caltrap?

    It is a bear trap made of calcinium.

    i firstly thought he meant claptrap and wondered how he actually gets into eso...but your explaination does make more sense. Thx for this :)
    Noobplar
  • Refuse2GrowUp
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    Skiserony wrote: »
    Yes, please make Caltrops hit as hard as detonation at every proc.

    Bye bye zergs. Bye bye everyone actually.

    LMAO. Wish I had a decent video of a cluster bomb going off to insert...can't help but picture Caltrops being thrown, but instead of little razor barbs, you would instead throw out a blanket of bomblets (same radius as current skill) that each does its own Proxy Det (physical damage of course); thus a hundred micro Magica Dets resulting in mass chaos and damage. Guess that is what the OP has in mind lol
    Edited by Refuse2GrowUp on January 3, 2016 12:18PM
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    found1779 wrote: »
    Explain to me then why the assault skill line has a burst damage move for magicka but it doesn't for stamina when this is suppose to be a shared skill line that's suppose to benefit magicka and stamina players but it only benefits stamina players with a heal that's vigor that's no good if you are a stamina dps tho I don't give a crap about a healing move I want a damn dps move just like magicka players get zos is basically telling me being stamina isn't suppose to be for dps but only for tanks I think this is why the werewolf is the way it is why is werewolf setup more for a tank and not dps ridiculous .

    Who are you sleeping with to get agrees on your comments?
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