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Maelstrom Arena is Elite Level, not Veteran

  • Nifty2g
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    ralonasan wrote: »
    I did Maelstrom on my healer v16 Templar normal mode in about 2 hours on my first run. Tonight, after a good month of watching countless videos, spending hours to learn mechanics from Deltia and unknowns on youtube, to learning how to build my gear, and what skills are the most important, I spent an hour trying to get past 3rd stage of the first arena without success.

    So, I have to agree with op, based on doing normal mode first try within 2 hours, all the studying and making sure I was prepared, and still not being able to get past stage 1, tells me that vet mode is indeed for the elite.
    I don't consider myself at all good, but I have fun playing this game, can heal even through VCoa from the experience I have gained without a problem, and usually get a compliment when a dungeon is done.

    I am assuming this will get a nerf eventually after all the elites have completed it, so I have no problem with it the way it is. Eventually it will be easy enough for us slow and stupid people to finish and get our master gear. For now, I will just avoid it, and that way I can be happy playing what I can do.

    Uhm. If you aren't able to pass the third stage the issue is definitely that you aren't built correctly. @Nifty2g made a great guide I suggest you check out. A quick forum search should do it.

    I have followed Deltia's videos for my Templar and someone else who basically had a step by step guide for my dk. Its not going to happen. I did mention I am not a good player, I am 51 and never did an mmo until this. I appreciate your help, but its just not going to happen. That is why I responded to agree with the op.

    Trust me, I know my limits and I am not 20 years old anymore. It needs to be nerfed after all the regulars go through it. I would imagine 2 months is plenty of time for you guys to have done it, and it would be nice to scale it down to the casual gamer. Remember, I am not complaining for calling for a nerf up front. I am saying after you guys have got it done, lets give us a shot.

    As for my Templar Healer set up for Maelstrom, v16 5 piece gold TBS, 3 piece Willow all sp enchants, I have all the monster helm sets and my cp is over 400 and placed accordingly. My first bar would be Harness, dark flare, jabs, bol, inner light and shooting star. I have a tough time getting to my second bar while being smoked, but it has focus, shards, ward, jesus and inner light with nova. I even swapped out monster for a 3 piece hundigs, to no avail.

    As for my dk?, I didn't even bother cause I know I could do it on normal mode. I tried vet with it, having 5 piece vet 16 gold Juliano, will power, monster set, with a fire and healing staff. I got nowhere on that too, couldn't get past stage 1 on vet, and I tried to follow the youtube guide step by step. btw, with both, I use v15 blue food for mag and health, and my potions are either tri, stats or tri with immovibility or speed, mag and spell power. Please share with me how I am not built properly if I am built very close to the elites like Deltia or Sypher. One thing I learned since beta, its easy to copy them, but that does not mean you can play like them.

    For both, I wear 5L, 1, and 1 with both characters being maxed on Undaunted. I have all my passives for both characters with each having well over 200 skill points to place. However, the places I lack are no pvp skill or passive, cept the first one, and no WW or Vamp. My main point has nothing to do with any of this though. If I can take my Templar for a first run and get it done and complete in 2 hours without any prior experiece, what does that say if I can't get by the 3rd stage of first arena with a ton of visual and learning knowledge from the experts? It says I suck, and would appreciate a nerf after all others have succeeded so I can enjoy in their treasures too. No complaints man and I actually enjoy watching the elites do their stuff. Its more fun than actually playing sometimes. lol
    @thesongoftimeb14_ESO check my guide out in my signature, a lot of people use a lot of skills you shouldn't be using my guide should help you out a lot
    #MOREORBS
  • Kalante
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    There is a stamina dk user named alcast he has many vet maelstrom arena videos with it.
    Edited by Kalante on January 1, 2016 2:57AM
  • thesongoftimeb14_ESO
    Nifty2g wrote: »
    ralonasan wrote: »
    I did Maelstrom on my healer v16 Templar normal mode in about 2 hours on my first run. Tonight, after a good month of watching countless videos, spending hours to learn mechanics from Deltia and unknowns on youtube, to learning how to build my gear, and what skills are the most important, I spent an hour trying to get past 3rd stage of the first arena without success.

    So, I have to agree with op, based on doing normal mode first try within 2 hours, all the studying and making sure I was prepared, and still not being able to get past stage 1, tells me that vet mode is indeed for the elite.
    I don't consider myself at all good, but I have fun playing this game, can heal even through VCoa from the experience I have gained without a problem, and usually get a compliment when a dungeon is done.

    I am assuming this will get a nerf eventually after all the elites have completed it, so I have no problem with it the way it is. Eventually it will be easy enough for us slow and stupid people to finish and get our master gear. For now, I will just avoid it, and that way I can be happy playing what I can do.

    Uhm. If you aren't able to pass the third stage the issue is definitely that you aren't built correctly. @Nifty2g made a great guide I suggest you check out. A quick forum search should do it.

    I have followed Deltia's videos for my Templar and someone else who basically had a step by step guide for my dk. Its not going to happen. I did mention I am not a good player, I am 51 and never did an mmo until this. I appreciate your help, but its just not going to happen. That is why I responded to agree with the op.

    Trust me, I know my limits and I am not 20 years old anymore. It needs to be nerfed after all the regulars go through it. I would imagine 2 months is plenty of time for you guys to have done it, and it would be nice to scale it down to the casual gamer. Remember, I am not complaining for calling for a nerf up front. I am saying after you guys have got it done, lets give us a shot.

    As for my Templar Healer set up for Maelstrom, v16 5 piece gold TBS, 3 piece Willow all sp enchants, I have all the monster helm sets and my cp is over 400 and placed accordingly. My first bar would be Harness, dark flare, jabs, bol, inner light and shooting star. I have a tough time getting to my second bar while being smoked, but it has focus, shards, ward, jesus and inner light with nova. I even swapped out monster for a 3 piece hundigs, to no avail.

    As for my dk?, I didn't even bother cause I know I could do it on normal mode. I tried vet with it, having 5 piece vet 16 gold Juliano, will power, monster set, with a fire and healing staff. I got nowhere on that too, couldn't get past stage 1 on vet, and I tried to follow the youtube guide step by step. btw, with both, I use v15 blue food for mag and health, and my potions are either tri, stats or tri with immovibility or speed, mag and spell power. Please share with me how I am not built properly if I am built very close to the elites like Deltia or Sypher. One thing I learned since beta, its easy to copy them, but that does not mean you can play like them.

    For both, I wear 5L, 1, and 1 with both characters being maxed on Undaunted. I have all my passives for both characters with each having well over 200 skill points to place. However, the places I lack are no pvp skill or passive, cept the first one, and no WW or Vamp. My main point has nothing to do with any of this though. If I can take my Templar for a first run and get it done and complete in 2 hours without any prior experiece, what does that say if I can't get by the 3rd stage of first arena with a ton of visual and learning knowledge from the experts? It says I suck, and would appreciate a nerf after all others have succeeded so I can enjoy in their treasures too. No complaints man and I actually enjoy watching the elites do their stuff. Its more fun than actually playing sometimes. lol
    @thesongoftimeb14_ESO check my guide out in my signature, a lot of people use a lot of skills you shouldn't be using my guide should help you out a lot

    Thanks, I will give it a whirl tomorrow and get back to you on here before Tuesday.
  • Joy_Division
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    @thesongoftimeb14_ESO - The first boss can actually be a handful if unaware it is a DPS race. I can tell you that a "healer" is going to stuggle in the entire arena. It is much easier to orient yourself as a DPS who is self reliant (i.e. biting jabs everything, use jesus beam to execute bosses).

    Nifty has an excellent and specific guide for Templars that you should consult. His guide is geared for getting the highest possible score. I wrote a more general guide for players just looking for advice to complete it (which you can link to in my sig).

    As a general rule, all the stages seem kind of hard until you get used to them. I won't lie, stages 5 and 6 do require above-average play from above-average builds to consistently beat (7 and 8 are actually noticeably easier), but 51 isn't that old and if you can heal CoA no problem, I'd say give it a another shot.
    Make Rush of Agony "Monsters only." People should not be consecutively crowd controlled in a PvP setting. Period.
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    As a general rule, all the stages seem kind of hard until you get used to them. I won't lie, stages 5 and 6 do require above-average play from above-average builds to consistently beat (7 and 8 are actually noticeably easier), but 51 isn't that old and if you can heal CoA no problem, I'd say give it a another shot.
    I agree, Stage 5 still kills me, not sure what is up with that stage, stage 6 gets me killed with the lag when call lightning happens or some time in round 9
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  • Stanko
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    I don't think that it will get seriously nerfed, but maybe tweaked a bit. Over time, there will be power creep as more CP is unlocked and we get better gear sets released with new content.
    Stanko: Ebonheart Pact, CP 3600, Templar, Former Emperor on Azura's, Arena Gladiator, Flawless Conqueror, Spirit Slayer, Grand Overlord, Paragon, and of course Merciless.
  • pdebie64b16_ESO
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    Its just sad that ZOS adjusted Vma towards elite players who are only a fraction of the player base, and ZOS announced they dont nerf Vmsa what means they listen to that small ammount of players and dont want to take there fun away while they dont care about the rest of players who cant complete it.

    >>>Ltp comments inc<<<

    Yes the elite players can handle unmitigrated damage, one shot mechanics, bugged mechanics and heavy aoe damage at the same time, but most players cannot...
  • MrGigglypants
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    Maybe your skill bars are suboptimal, you dont block, you make junk potions, you dont use reflective scales, you dont understand the mechanics...

    Im a v16 dragonknight with only 135 cp and I expect to complete it. Why? Because I saw my group get housed on Sanct. Ophidia over and over and over again, until all 12 people finally knew the mechanics by heart and did the right things. It sounds like Maelstrom is the same deal. You go from wiping to completing based on strategy alone.

    Maelstrom is doable I mean I'm not a great player and I completed it. But it's much worst than trials and sanctum. If your not a top tier dps you won't complete it. It's much more than just mechanics
  • MrGigglypants
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    Sithisvoid wrote: »
    There's a difference between L2p and 79k dmg in one hit
    CarbonHD wrote: »
    I'm a VETERAN 16 DK, played the Maelstrom Arena veteran mode and could barely advance.

    Veteran is vCoA, vWGT is veteran and vICP is veteran, already VERY challenging, therefore, I consider Malestrom Arena elite, not veteran.

    Imagine I'm a VR1 and I can't complete veteran Maelstrom Arena. It's OK. I grow to VR16, I get VR16 gear and get a lot of CPs. OK, I'm ready. Nope! Still not doable. And when I say "doable" I mean that 1 out of 100 players can do it (1.000 if you like, 10.000?), not 1 out of 1.000.000.

    This is elite, a level that hasn't yet be implemented in TESO, not veteran. Maybe a few players out of millions can complete it, same as a poor amateur team sometimes beats Barcelona in a friendly soccer game. Still, that doesn't make that poor amateur team a pro team.

    Maelstrom Arena is not veteran, is elite.

    Maybe it has been made this hard on purpose because, if it's clear that veteran is vCoA, vWGT and vICP, still not doable for the majority of the veteran players, and you still create something even harder, waaay more harder, it's undoubtly on purpose and with a reason.

    What purpose and reason? I have no idea.

    On a side note: I have completed normal mode and it was still challenging and fun, so I'm sooo happy! :):(:);):)
    Stop complaining and begging for nerfs. Content shouldn't be completed by everyone day 1. I remember when v coa came out there weren't a ton of people who could actually complete it. Now that the mechanics are out and all the strategies it's a cake walk. Same with vICP and vwgt people complained to no end about the difficulty of those 2 dungeons when they first came out and now everyone can do them and they've been out for just over 2 months.

    Also you are playing one of the weaker specs in there. Try out a mag nb or mag sorc and it will be far easier. Also on my Dk complete it didn't take me hours and hours and hours. It took me 2 hours and 12 deaths. So I used about 10k in pots and maybe 2k on repairs. So I definitely didn't spend 100k. I will be posting a guide for both sorc and mag Dk within the coming week to help out everyone that's having trouble.

    vWGT and vICP both got nerfed so that's not the best example.

    And this has already been nerfed twice on the pts. If it had been left as it originally we then I would agree that it's only for elite players since that was actually hard and a real test of people's skill. But now? It's a nice easy hour and a half run that most players that are willing to spend more than 15 minutes in can clear.

    You can clear wgt in 20 minutes
  • Wollust
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    Its just sad that ZOS adjusted Vma towards elite players who are only a fraction of the player base, and ZOS announced they dont nerf Vmsa what means they listen to that small ammount of players and dont want to take there fun away while they dont care about the rest of players who cant complete it.

    >>>Ltp comments inc<<<

    Yes the elite players can handle unmitigrated damage, one shot mechanics, bugged mechanics and heavy aoe damage at the same time, but most players cannot...

    They gave one single thing (actually, half of it, because there is normal and vet version of the Arena) from a huge dlc to the "elite" players, those players that have completely nothing else these days. Ofc they listen to these players, they also listen to PvPers, Solo players and casuals. Nothing wrong with giving everyone something. No need to get dramatic and say they don't care about anyone else if not everything is meant for your particular playstyle or level.
    Susano'o

    Zerg Squad
  • RatedChaotic
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    Is why I'm now lvling a sorc. I'll be pvping with my nb and pveing with my sorc. Gotta love the balance.
  • Levi
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    CarbonHD wrote: »
    I'm just saying and believe i
    Docmandu wrote: »
    ZOS balancing has 2 modes:
    - stupendously easy
    - nightmare mode

    Clap, clap, clap! That's my point 100%.

    The other responses have nothing to do with my first post.

    They think I'm complaining, or that I won't play the vet arena, or won't try to improve my char, or will quit. LOL!

    Some people like to read and understand whatever they want.


    I think ZOS needs to be worried that people will quit. I have not been able to complete Vet Maelstrom, and I don't plan on completing it. I've lost interest in trying, so it is really not a gripe about making it easier so I can do it.
    Now, I think it is good that there is something that is hard to do, even hard enough that only the best players can manage it. I say this because some people are looking to this game for a challenge, and I think it is good that they have it. The balance is hard, though, because you want to keep people interested in trying all the content. However, there is a point where the difficulty is high enough that people just don't want to try it anymore, and maybe even those that have accomplished it just don't want to put the time or effort into it after a while.
    Maybe I'm wrong, or maybe it will change when people get more champion points.
    Either way, I think ZOS needs to make sure they pay close attention to Vet Maelstrom, the percentage of the ESO community that is attempting, and the percentage of the ESO community that is able to complete. They need to make sure that it stays relevant, and it doesn't become one of those things where only a small percentage of the population is actually interacting with the content. Not everyone will take the time to post. I usually don't. However hard or easy it is needs to be dependent on that, and that needs to be the case with all the content of the game in order to keep the majority of people interested in order to keep the game expanding. That is what I want far more than being able or unable to do Vet Maelstrom.
    So, keep it hard or make it easier. Make it harder for all I care, just keep it relevant. Keep the game where it is good for people in order to keep the game getting bigger. I want the Thieves' Guild. I want the Dark Brotherhood. I want to see more places open in Tamriel that I have never seen before. I want places to open that I have seen before so I can compare them to Morrowind, Oblivion, and Skyrim. That is far better than completing some arena.

    If I was to change anything leaving alone the difficulty, it would be to make all of the gear from normal be V15 with a shot at a V15 Maelstrom weapon on the last guy. Then the loot tables would be the same in Vet Maelstrom, just V16 rather than V15. Just a thought.
    Levi Canonach VR16 Templar Healer - DC NA
    Coda Canonach VR16 Templar Stamina DPS - DC NA
    Faolan D'lanach VR16 Nightblade Healer/DPS - DC NA
    J'Aorka VR16 Nightblade Stamina DPS - AD NA
    Moon'Moon VR16 Dragonknight Tank - DC NA
    Rapha Yeshimone - VR16 Sorcerer Healer/DPS - DC NA
    Trelos Flacara VR1 Dragonknight Magicka DPS - DC NA
  • thesongoftimeb14_ESO
    Nifty2g wrote: »
    ralonasan wrote: »
    I did Maelstrom on my healer v16 Templar normal mode in about 2 hours on my first run. Tonight, after a good month of watching countless videos, spending hours to learn mechanics from Deltia and unknowns on youtube, to learning how to build my gear, and what skills are the most important, I spent an hour trying to get past 3rd stage of the first arena without success.

    So, I have to agree with op, based on doing normal mode first try within 2 hours, all the studying and making sure I was prepared, and still not being able to get past stage 1, tells me that vet mode is indeed for the elite.
    I don't consider myself at all good, but I have fun playing this game, can heal even through VCoa from the experience I have gained without a problem, and usually get a compliment when a dungeon is done.

    I am assuming this will get a nerf eventually after all the elites have completed it, so I have no problem with it the way it is. Eventually it will be easy enough for us slow and stupid people to finish and get our master gear. For now, I will just avoid it, and that way I can be happy playing what I can do.

    Uhm. If you aren't able to pass the third stage the issue is definitely that you aren't built correctly. @Nifty2g made a great guide I suggest you check out. A quick forum search should do it.

    I have followed Deltia's videos for my Templar and someone else who basically had a step by step guide for my dk. Its not going to happen. I did mention I am not a good player, I am 51 and never did an mmo until this. I appreciate your help, but its just not going to happen. That is why I responded to agree with the op.

    Trust me, I know my limits and I am not 20 years old anymore. It needs to be nerfed after all the regulars go through it. I would imagine 2 months is plenty of time for you guys to have done it, and it would be nice to scale it down to the casual gamer. Remember, I am not complaining for calling for a nerf up front. I am saying after you guys have got it done, lets give us a shot.

    As for my Templar Healer set up for Maelstrom, v16 5 piece gold TBS, 3 piece Willow all sp enchants, I have all the monster helm sets and my cp is over 400 and placed accordingly. My first bar would be Harness, dark flare, jabs, bol, inner light and shooting star. I have a tough time getting to my second bar while being smoked, but it has focus, shards, ward, jesus and inner light with nova. I even swapped out monster for a 3 piece hundigs, to no avail.

    As for my dk?, I didn't even bother cause I know I could do it on normal mode. I tried vet with it, having 5 piece vet 16 gold Juliano, will power, monster set, with a fire and healing staff. I got nowhere on that too, couldn't get past stage 1 on vet, and I tried to follow the youtube guide step by step. btw, with both, I use v15 blue food for mag and health, and my potions are either tri, stats or tri with immovibility or speed, mag and spell power. Please share with me how I am not built properly if I am built very close to the elites like Deltia or Sypher. One thing I learned since beta, its easy to copy them, but that does not mean you can play like them.

    For both, I wear 5L, 1, and 1 with both characters being maxed on Undaunted. I have all my passives for both characters with each having well over 200 skill points to place. However, the places I lack are no pvp skill or passive, cept the first one, and no WW or Vamp. My main point has nothing to do with any of this though. If I can take my Templar for a first run and get it done and complete in 2 hours without any prior experiece, what does that say if I can't get by the 3rd stage of first arena with a ton of visual and learning knowledge from the experts? It says I suck, and would appreciate a nerf after all others have succeeded so I can enjoy in their treasures too. No complaints man and I actually enjoy watching the elites do their stuff. Its more fun than actually playing sometimes. lol
    @thesongoftimeb14_ESO check my guide out in my signature, a lot of people use a lot of skills you shouldn't be using my guide should help you out a lot

    First thing I would like to say is that your videos and all the writing you did for builds is an awesome piece of work. After checking everything out, my first reaction was this would be the equivalent of watching Deltia's videos, but just a lot more in depth. Just watching you play, the bar swapping skill, no panic, and knowing exactly which of the 12 buttons to push and your ability to recover anytime your health bar drops down to very little. I myself live on Bol, to mask all these skills that I really don't possess. This is why we say elite, and probably really don't mean it that way. Its more of a way of saying my skills will never even come close to the ones you have. Smart, quick thinking, calm, and experienced.

    However, my Templar has become a little bored of healing dungeons and just started leveling up PVP. Not sure I really care for it much, but I believe in a month or so I will hit the level needed to get proxy. With not much else to do at the moment, I thought why not? See if another guy can make me better? I have plenty of gold, but I did not want to spend my whole fortune on trying to match your setup. I got as close as I could, without breaking the bank. I think I spent about 200k total and here is what I have. First off, my Templar is Imperial. I also noticed while trying your build that I did not have duel leveled all the way. Its at 40 and I am missing those passives. I never tried the 2 sword sp boost from duel because its easy for me to light attack for mag regen, as apposed to trying to hit something up close every 8 seconds with my swords. If you could let me know where I absolutely have to change something because of that, or anything else, I am all ears.

    I chose your arch mage set up and you will see why as you read the following.

    Everything is v16 gold except for the 3 willow jewel set and my shoulder molag which is currently purple. I thought I had the helm for molag, but I remembered it was v5 and I had never wore the set. I must have deconstructed it because its missing. I have the other Monster v16 sets though. Everything is divines except for my juliano pants, I did not want to have to remake it and its infused for the 20 percent enchant. Everything is max mag enchant with the will powers all having sp. My necklace is health, which allowed me to stop at 9 for health on attributes to get to 20k with blue food buff. Other 55 in magicka of course. My head, chest and sash are Arch. My gloves, shoes and pants are juliano. I made 2 juliano swords with nirn before learning my duel was at level 40, and I already had juliano resto with precise and flame damage on it. I have yet to enchant the 2 swords and did not bother with rearranging my 404 cp in case you say I have no change with that I have so far. Thanks for the help, and I might just go try with what I have tonight anyway. On my edit, I forgot to mention that I am 7L. I usually have the 5/1/1 for undaunted passive, but it would have been a huge cost to work that out. As important as that is for the build, for now I need to work around it until I figured something out.
    Edited by thesongoftimeb14_ESO on January 1, 2016 11:53PM
  • Nifty2g
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    Nifty2g wrote: »
    ralonasan wrote: »
    I did Maelstrom on my healer v16 Templar normal mode in about 2 hours on my first run. Tonight, after a good month of watching countless videos, spending hours to learn mechanics from Deltia and unknowns on youtube, to learning how to build my gear, and what skills are the most important, I spent an hour trying to get past 3rd stage of the first arena without success.

    So, I have to agree with op, based on doing normal mode first try within 2 hours, all the studying and making sure I was prepared, and still not being able to get past stage 1, tells me that vet mode is indeed for the elite.
    I don't consider myself at all good, but I have fun playing this game, can heal even through VCoa from the experience I have gained without a problem, and usually get a compliment when a dungeon is done.

    I am assuming this will get a nerf eventually after all the elites have completed it, so I have no problem with it the way it is. Eventually it will be easy enough for us slow and stupid people to finish and get our master gear. For now, I will just avoid it, and that way I can be happy playing what I can do.

    Uhm. If you aren't able to pass the third stage the issue is definitely that you aren't built correctly. @Nifty2g made a great guide I suggest you check out. A quick forum search should do it.

    I have followed Deltia's videos for my Templar and someone else who basically had a step by step guide for my dk. Its not going to happen. I did mention I am not a good player, I am 51 and never did an mmo until this. I appreciate your help, but its just not going to happen. That is why I responded to agree with the op.

    Trust me, I know my limits and I am not 20 years old anymore. It needs to be nerfed after all the regulars go through it. I would imagine 2 months is plenty of time for you guys to have done it, and it would be nice to scale it down to the casual gamer. Remember, I am not complaining for calling for a nerf up front. I am saying after you guys have got it done, lets give us a shot.

    As for my Templar Healer set up for Maelstrom, v16 5 piece gold TBS, 3 piece Willow all sp enchants, I have all the monster helm sets and my cp is over 400 and placed accordingly. My first bar would be Harness, dark flare, jabs, bol, inner light and shooting star. I have a tough time getting to my second bar while being smoked, but it has focus, shards, ward, jesus and inner light with nova. I even swapped out monster for a 3 piece hundigs, to no avail.

    As for my dk?, I didn't even bother cause I know I could do it on normal mode. I tried vet with it, having 5 piece vet 16 gold Juliano, will power, monster set, with a fire and healing staff. I got nowhere on that too, couldn't get past stage 1 on vet, and I tried to follow the youtube guide step by step. btw, with both, I use v15 blue food for mag and health, and my potions are either tri, stats or tri with immovibility or speed, mag and spell power. Please share with me how I am not built properly if I am built very close to the elites like Deltia or Sypher. One thing I learned since beta, its easy to copy them, but that does not mean you can play like them.

    For both, I wear 5L, 1, and 1 with both characters being maxed on Undaunted. I have all my passives for both characters with each having well over 200 skill points to place. However, the places I lack are no pvp skill or passive, cept the first one, and no WW or Vamp. My main point has nothing to do with any of this though. If I can take my Templar for a first run and get it done and complete in 2 hours without any prior experiece, what does that say if I can't get by the 3rd stage of first arena with a ton of visual and learning knowledge from the experts? It says I suck, and would appreciate a nerf after all others have succeeded so I can enjoy in their treasures too. No complaints man and I actually enjoy watching the elites do their stuff. Its more fun than actually playing sometimes. lol
    @thesongoftimeb14_ESO check my guide out in my signature, a lot of people use a lot of skills you shouldn't be using my guide should help you out a lot

    First thing I would like to say is that your videos and all the writing you did for builds is an awesome piece of work. After checking everything out, my first reaction was this would be the equivalent of watching Deltia's videos, but just a lot more in depth. Just watching you play, the bar swapping skill, no panic, and knowing exactly which of the 12 buttons to push and your ability to recover anytime your health bar drops down to very little. I myself live on Bol, to mask all these skills that I really don't possess. This is why we say elite, and probably really don't mean it that way. Its more of a way of saying my skills will never even come close to the ones you have. Smart, quick thinking, calm, and experienced.

    However, my Templar has become a little bored of healing dungeons and just started leveling up PVP. Not sure I really care for it much, but I believe in a month or so I will hit the level needed to get proxy. With not much else to do at the moment, I thought why not? See if another guy can make me better? I have plenty of gold, but I did not want to spend my whole fortune on trying to match your setup. I got as close as I could, without breaking the bank. I think I spent about 200k total and here is what I have. First off, my Templar is Imperial. I also noticed while trying your build that I did not have duel leveled all the way. Its at 40 and I am missing those passives. I never tried the 2 sword sp boost from duel because its easy for me to light attack for mag regen, as apposed to trying to hit something up close every 8 seconds with my swords. If you could let me know where I absolutely have to change something because of that, or anything else, I am all ears.

    I chose your arch mage set up and you will see why as you read the following.

    Everything is v16 gold except for the 3 willow jewel set and my shoulder molag which is currently purple. I thought I had the helm for molag, but I remembered it was v5 and I had never wore the set. I must have deconstructed it because its missing. I have the other Monster v16 sets though. Everything is divines except for my juliano pants, I did not want to have to remake it and its infused for the 20 percent enchant. Everything is max mag enchant with the will powers all having sp. My necklace is health, which allowed me to stop at 9 for health on attributes to get to 20k with blue food buff. Other 55 in magicka of course. My head, chest and sash are Arch. My gloves, shoes and pants are juliano. I made 2 juliano swords with nirn before learning my duel was at level 40, and I already had juliano resto with precise and flame damage on it. I have yet to enchant the 2 swords and did not bother with rearranging my 404 cp in case you say I have no change with that I have so far. Thanks for the help, and I might just go try with what I have tonight anyway. On my edit, I forgot to mention that I am 7L. I usually have the 5/1/1 for undaunted passive, but it would have been a huge cost to work that out. As important as that is for the build, for now I need to work around it until I figured something out.
    @thesongoftimeb14_ESO I can see your reasoning behind that, but I still believe using this guide can be done even if you're not going for competitive scores it just makes it a whole lot more easier.
    As for what you said
    grab dual wield it's a ton of spell damage try and level it up if you can it just makes it easier on you, quicker things die easier time you will have. being imperial you should be able to do 64 max magicka. also i don't think you should use 7 light because of undaunted passive and you will be very squishy without that, you're missing a lot of mitigation
    #MOREORBS
  • NoS_smoke
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    Takes like 75 minutes on my stamblade when ya get the mechanics down. Only problem with VMA is the drop rates. 12 bows and no 2h. Kinda silly. I don't want to be all like L2P bro but ya need to get the mechanics down and have adequate gear and it's not that hard.
  • thesongoftimeb14_ESO
    Nifty2g wrote: »
    Nifty2g wrote: »
    ralonasan wrote: »
    I did Maelstrom on my healer v16 Templar normal mode in about 2 hours on my first run. Tonight, after a good month of watching countless videos, spending hours to learn mechanics from Deltia and unknowns on youtube, to learning how to build my gear, and what skills are the most important, I spent an hour trying to get past 3rd stage of the first arena without success.

    So, I have to agree with op, based on doing normal mode first try within 2 hours, all the studying and making sure I was prepared, and still not being able to get past stage 1, tells me that vet mode is indeed for the elite.
    I don't consider myself at all good, but I have fun playing this game, can heal even through VCoa from the experience I have gained without a problem, and usually get a compliment when a dungeon is done.

    I am assuming this will get a nerf eventually after all the elites have completed it, so I have no problem with it the way it is. Eventually it will be easy enough for us slow and stupid people to finish and get our master gear. For now, I will just avoid it, and that way I can be happy playing what I can do.

    Uhm. If you aren't able to pass the third stage the issue is definitely that you aren't built correctly. @Nifty2g made a great guide I suggest you check out. A quick forum search should do it.

    I have followed Deltia's videos for my Templar and someone else who basically had a step by step guide for my dk. Its not going to happen. I did mention I am not a good player, I am 51 and never did an mmo until this. I appreciate your help, but its just not going to happen. That is why I responded to agree with the op.

    Trust me, I know my limits and I am not 20 years old anymore. It needs to be nerfed after all the regulars go through it. I would imagine 2 months is plenty of time for you guys to have done it, and it would be nice to scale it down to the casual gamer. Remember, I am not complaining for calling for a nerf up front. I am saying after you guys have got it done, lets give us a shot.

    As for my Templar Healer set up for Maelstrom, v16 5 piece gold TBS, 3 piece Willow all sp enchants, I have all the monster helm sets and my cp is over 400 and placed accordingly. My first bar would be Harness, dark flare, jabs, bol, inner light and shooting star. I have a tough time getting to my second bar while being smoked, but it has focus, shards, ward, jesus and inner light with nova. I even swapped out monster for a 3 piece hundigs, to no avail.

    As for my dk?, I didn't even bother cause I know I could do it on normal mode. I tried vet with it, having 5 piece vet 16 gold Juliano, will power, monster set, with a fire and healing staff. I got nowhere on that too, couldn't get past stage 1 on vet, and I tried to follow the youtube guide step by step. btw, with both, I use v15 blue food for mag and health, and my potions are either tri, stats or tri with immovibility or speed, mag and spell power. Please share with me how I am not built properly if I am built very close to the elites like Deltia or Sypher. One thing I learned since beta, its easy to copy them, but that does not mean you can play like them.

    For both, I wear 5L, 1, and 1 with both characters being maxed on Undaunted. I have all my passives for both characters with each having well over 200 skill points to place. However, the places I lack are no pvp skill or passive, cept the first one, and no WW or Vamp. My main point has nothing to do with any of this though. If I can take my Templar for a first run and get it done and complete in 2 hours without any prior experiece, what does that say if I can't get by the 3rd stage of first arena with a ton of visual and learning knowledge from the experts? It says I suck, and would appreciate a nerf after all others have succeeded so I can enjoy in their treasures too. No complaints man and I actually enjoy watching the elites do their stuff. Its more fun than actually playing sometimes. lol
    @thesongoftimeb14_ESO check my guide out in my signature, a lot of people use a lot of skills you shouldn't be using my guide should help you out a lot

    First thing I would like to say is that your videos and all the writing you did for builds is an awesome piece of work. After checking everything out, my first reaction was this would be the equivalent of watching Deltia's videos, but just a lot more in depth. Just watching you play, the bar swapping skill, no panic, and knowing exactly which of the 12 buttons to push and your ability to recover anytime your health bar drops down to very little. I myself live on Bol, to mask all these skills that I really don't possess. This is why we say elite, and probably really don't mean it that way. Its more of a way of saying my skills will never even come close to the ones you have. Smart, quick thinking, calm, and experienced.

    However, my Templar has become a little bored of healing dungeons and just started leveling up PVP. Not sure I really care for it much, but I believe in a month or so I will hit the level needed to get proxy. With not much else to do at the moment, I thought why not? See if another guy can make me better? I have plenty of gold, but I did not want to spend my whole fortune on trying to match your setup. I got as close as I could, without breaking the bank. I think I spent about 200k total and here is what I have. First off, my Templar is Imperial. I also noticed while trying your build that I did not have duel leveled all the way. Its at 40 and I am missing those passives. I never tried the 2 sword sp boost from duel because its easy for me to light attack for mag regen, as apposed to trying to hit something up close every 8 seconds with my swords. If you could let me know where I absolutely have to change something because of that, or anything else, I am all ears.

    I chose your arch mage set up and you will see why as you read the following.

    Everything is v16 gold except for the 3 willow jewel set and my shoulder molag which is currently purple. I thought I had the helm for molag, but I remembered it was v5 and I had never wore the set. I must have deconstructed it because its missing. I have the other Monster v16 sets though. Everything is divines except for my juliano pants, I did not want to have to remake it and its infused for the 20 percent enchant. Everything is max mag enchant with the will powers all having sp. My necklace is health, which allowed me to stop at 9 for health on attributes to get to 20k with blue food buff. Other 55 in magicka of course. My head, chest and sash are Arch. My gloves, shoes and pants are juliano. I made 2 juliano swords with nirn before learning my duel was at level 40, and I already had juliano resto with precise and flame damage on it. I have yet to enchant the 2 swords and did not bother with rearranging my 404 cp in case you say I have no change with that I have so far. Thanks for the help, and I might just go try with what I have tonight anyway. On my edit, I forgot to mention that I am 7L. I usually have the 5/1/1 for undaunted passive, but it would have been a huge cost to work that out. As important as that is for the build, for now I need to work around it until I figured something out.
    @thesongoftimeb14_ESO I can see your reasoning behind that, but I still believe using this guide can be done even if you're not going for competitive scores it just makes it a whole lot more easier.
    As for what you said
    grab dual wield it's a ton of spell damage try and level it up if you can it just makes it easier on you, quicker things die easier time you will have. being imperial you should be able to do 64 max magicka. also i don't think you should use 7 light because of undaunted passive and you will be very squishy without that, you're missing a lot of mitigation

    I did not see in your info as to what glyphs should be on my swords? Thanks
  • Nifty2g
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    Nifty2g wrote: »
    Nifty2g wrote: »
    ralonasan wrote: »
    I did Maelstrom on my healer v16 Templar normal mode in about 2 hours on my first run. Tonight, after a good month of watching countless videos, spending hours to learn mechanics from Deltia and unknowns on youtube, to learning how to build my gear, and what skills are the most important, I spent an hour trying to get past 3rd stage of the first arena without success.

    So, I have to agree with op, based on doing normal mode first try within 2 hours, all the studying and making sure I was prepared, and still not being able to get past stage 1, tells me that vet mode is indeed for the elite.
    I don't consider myself at all good, but I have fun playing this game, can heal even through VCoa from the experience I have gained without a problem, and usually get a compliment when a dungeon is done.

    I am assuming this will get a nerf eventually after all the elites have completed it, so I have no problem with it the way it is. Eventually it will be easy enough for us slow and stupid people to finish and get our master gear. For now, I will just avoid it, and that way I can be happy playing what I can do.

    Uhm. If you aren't able to pass the third stage the issue is definitely that you aren't built correctly. @Nifty2g made a great guide I suggest you check out. A quick forum search should do it.

    I have followed Deltia's videos for my Templar and someone else who basically had a step by step guide for my dk. Its not going to happen. I did mention I am not a good player, I am 51 and never did an mmo until this. I appreciate your help, but its just not going to happen. That is why I responded to agree with the op.

    Trust me, I know my limits and I am not 20 years old anymore. It needs to be nerfed after all the regulars go through it. I would imagine 2 months is plenty of time for you guys to have done it, and it would be nice to scale it down to the casual gamer. Remember, I am not complaining for calling for a nerf up front. I am saying after you guys have got it done, lets give us a shot.

    As for my Templar Healer set up for Maelstrom, v16 5 piece gold TBS, 3 piece Willow all sp enchants, I have all the monster helm sets and my cp is over 400 and placed accordingly. My first bar would be Harness, dark flare, jabs, bol, inner light and shooting star. I have a tough time getting to my second bar while being smoked, but it has focus, shards, ward, jesus and inner light with nova. I even swapped out monster for a 3 piece hundigs, to no avail.

    As for my dk?, I didn't even bother cause I know I could do it on normal mode. I tried vet with it, having 5 piece vet 16 gold Juliano, will power, monster set, with a fire and healing staff. I got nowhere on that too, couldn't get past stage 1 on vet, and I tried to follow the youtube guide step by step. btw, with both, I use v15 blue food for mag and health, and my potions are either tri, stats or tri with immovibility or speed, mag and spell power. Please share with me how I am not built properly if I am built very close to the elites like Deltia or Sypher. One thing I learned since beta, its easy to copy them, but that does not mean you can play like them.

    For both, I wear 5L, 1, and 1 with both characters being maxed on Undaunted. I have all my passives for both characters with each having well over 200 skill points to place. However, the places I lack are no pvp skill or passive, cept the first one, and no WW or Vamp. My main point has nothing to do with any of this though. If I can take my Templar for a first run and get it done and complete in 2 hours without any prior experiece, what does that say if I can't get by the 3rd stage of first arena with a ton of visual and learning knowledge from the experts? It says I suck, and would appreciate a nerf after all others have succeeded so I can enjoy in their treasures too. No complaints man and I actually enjoy watching the elites do their stuff. Its more fun than actually playing sometimes. lol
    @thesongoftimeb14_ESO check my guide out in my signature, a lot of people use a lot of skills you shouldn't be using my guide should help you out a lot

    First thing I would like to say is that your videos and all the writing you did for builds is an awesome piece of work. After checking everything out, my first reaction was this would be the equivalent of watching Deltia's videos, but just a lot more in depth. Just watching you play, the bar swapping skill, no panic, and knowing exactly which of the 12 buttons to push and your ability to recover anytime your health bar drops down to very little. I myself live on Bol, to mask all these skills that I really don't possess. This is why we say elite, and probably really don't mean it that way. Its more of a way of saying my skills will never even come close to the ones you have. Smart, quick thinking, calm, and experienced.

    However, my Templar has become a little bored of healing dungeons and just started leveling up PVP. Not sure I really care for it much, but I believe in a month or so I will hit the level needed to get proxy. With not much else to do at the moment, I thought why not? See if another guy can make me better? I have plenty of gold, but I did not want to spend my whole fortune on trying to match your setup. I got as close as I could, without breaking the bank. I think I spent about 200k total and here is what I have. First off, my Templar is Imperial. I also noticed while trying your build that I did not have duel leveled all the way. Its at 40 and I am missing those passives. I never tried the 2 sword sp boost from duel because its easy for me to light attack for mag regen, as apposed to trying to hit something up close every 8 seconds with my swords. If you could let me know where I absolutely have to change something because of that, or anything else, I am all ears.

    I chose your arch mage set up and you will see why as you read the following.

    Everything is v16 gold except for the 3 willow jewel set and my shoulder molag which is currently purple. I thought I had the helm for molag, but I remembered it was v5 and I had never wore the set. I must have deconstructed it because its missing. I have the other Monster v16 sets though. Everything is divines except for my juliano pants, I did not want to have to remake it and its infused for the 20 percent enchant. Everything is max mag enchant with the will powers all having sp. My necklace is health, which allowed me to stop at 9 for health on attributes to get to 20k with blue food buff. Other 55 in magicka of course. My head, chest and sash are Arch. My gloves, shoes and pants are juliano. I made 2 juliano swords with nirn before learning my duel was at level 40, and I already had juliano resto with precise and flame damage on it. I have yet to enchant the 2 swords and did not bother with rearranging my 404 cp in case you say I have no change with that I have so far. Thanks for the help, and I might just go try with what I have tonight anyway. On my edit, I forgot to mention that I am 7L. I usually have the 5/1/1 for undaunted passive, but it would have been a huge cost to work that out. As important as that is for the build, for now I need to work around it until I figured something out.
    @thesongoftimeb14_ESO I can see your reasoning behind that, but I still believe using this guide can be done even if you're not going for competitive scores it just makes it a whole lot more easier.
    As for what you said
    grab dual wield it's a ton of spell damage try and level it up if you can it just makes it easier on you, quicker things die easier time you will have. being imperial you should be able to do 64 max magicka. also i don't think you should use 7 light because of undaunted passive and you will be very squishy without that, you're missing a lot of mitigation

    I did not see in your info as to what glyphs should be on my swords? Thanks
    Poison and absorb magic
    #MOREORBS
  • Nifty2g
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    @ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_RichLambert @Wrobel @Seiffer @ZOS_Finn

    So here is my issue, none of the feedback is being listened to at all it's been said a lot and as I previously mentioned less and less people are running this content because of how it is to put it bluntly it is not enjoyable, and has been left far too long in it's current state and many people are done with it, I'm sure it will be quite fun with Thieve's Guild but that is far too long away and leaving it till then to fix this content just doesn't make sense and by fixing it I mean adjustments based on the new Champion System overhaul and skills overhaul. I think it is too late and here is why. On this current week it has been getting less and less take a look at these weekly scores for North America

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    This puts a combined clear rate of 200 across all classes, 200 people. I find it hard to believe that you guys are paying attention to this and not adjusting anything and leaving it in it's current state, clearly people are not enjoying running it. The main reason being is because it is solo content and the vast majority of players want to play with their friends the other main reason being is because solo content at this level of gameplay is just absurd, it overwhelms so many players. I am all for challenging content I think it is a good idea, and it is great this content was challenging but it's gone now. Most people have beaten it.

    That's all I have to say and I just did vma got to round 3 and then left because of how long and tedious it is, I have all of my weapons as most people do. There is nothing left in there. I have not ran this in about 3 weeks now and I am still #3 on the leaderboards, in fact the top 10 on EU and NA server has not changed. I reckon that speaks for it self in terms of competition.

    I'm really disappointed I really wanted to like this dungeon and I feel like it's being ignored :(

    #MOREORBS
  • Destruent
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    it's the same on EU-server (and for me)...i haven't been in there for nearly one month an i'm still in top 10 (with ~424k points/templar...i dropped 3 ranks during this time). Weekly has been done by around 240 people here...no class has 100 completions atm in the weekly :/

    sadly i think i have to start doing it again, bc i want those precise daggers :(
    Noobplar
  • Prizax
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    @Nifty2g

    You said "I am all for challenging content I think it is a good idea, and it is great this content was challenging but it's gone now. Most people have beaten it." ... I'm sure you know this is a lie.

    First of all I'm Reiji Zwei in the Templar Leaderboards, I took like a month break of ESO right after Orsinium came out, and I totally remember reading in forums that you were complaining about it being too hard/broken but then you got used to it.

    Also I'm mostly sure that if Zenimax reveals numbers they can easily say that not even 1% of the players have beaten vMA, and I remember that when I got back the "Maelstrom Arena (Veteran)" leaderboard for templars (the one that shows all templars) showed that not even 90 players had complete it, today it now shows 100 players I'm sure it does not pass 110 players and who knows how many are the same person with multiple characters.

    I have only completed vMA 3 times so far and I gotta say that it's kinda frustrating for me sometimes but I'm kinda getting used to it I like the difficult that represents for me, but there are definitely some things that need to get fixed like I'm always getting a 1 second lag/delay in the last boss of the final stage 9 and so many other things.
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    It is difficult but that quickly disappears after the first clear that then it's just exhausting. I enjoyed the initial challenge but after that it's meh. I've got videos and all of my gameplay I'm capable of getting top scores as I've had them but it's just no motivation at its current state which needs to be looked into.
    #MOREORBS
  • coolermh
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    My experience with vet malestorm is that all the stages are appropriate in difficulty except for the last boss in stage 9. I spent 200 lives and got him to 10% only one time and the I quit and was very frustrated. I actually was so mad that I took a few days off from the game because of it. I don't quite have all gold gear for my sorc. Missing maybe 2 pieces. But I have 501 champ, 3 pc willpower, 5 Juliaos, 2 torugs and 1 molag.


    With stamina don't even think of trying. It is not with your time and frustration.
    -MrHeid625
    Max Chars:
    Magika Sorc AD
    Stamina NB AD
    Stam DK AD
    Magika NB-
    Magika Temp-
    Stam Warden
    Stam Sorc
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  • DaveMoeDee
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    Ezareth wrote: »
    CarbonHD wrote: »
    Carbon is very upset and anxious right now so I will not antagonize him. But isnt everything in this game l2p? If I hand my ps4 controller to someone who's never played eso, they will be completely lost. In what way are you failing? Whatever is causing you a failure almost always has a quick fix solution. Are you getting blasted by lots of npc mages? Reflect those spells. Is the boss hitting you for 80k? Maybe you gotta kill the Horver by the totem to prevent that 80k. I haven't played Maelstrom but I've seen it done on Youtube and it looks replicable.

    I'm not upset mate. :) And I agree with you that adjustments and knowing mechanics is the way, as in every dungeon. However, that doesn't removes the fact that this is even too hard for VR16 advanced veterans.

    So maybe, if the game had another rank; let's say normal, veteran and elite, this arena would fit, in my humble opinion, on a rank above veteran.

    Simply as that. :)

    You're a normal player who thinks he is a "Veteran". Normal mode was designed for you. Veteran Mode was designed for players who want a real challenge.

    The issue is one of semantics, not skill.

    Yeah, the OP didn't really make sense. There is no Platonic 'veteran'. Vet just means it is harder than non-vet. That does not tell us how hard it will be.

    MA is fine because vet difficulty will become easy after there are a few more armor tiers a year from now. It is great that they added something this difficult, but, as always, it will eventually be very doable as people accumulate CP and new armor sets after a few more DLC.
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    Its just sad that ZOS adjusted Vma towards elite players who are only a fraction of the player base, and ZOS announced they dont nerf Vmsa what means they listen to that small ammount of players and dont want to take there fun away while they dont care about the rest of players who cant complete it.

    >>>Ltp comments inc<<<

    Yes the elite players can handle unmitigrated damage, one shot mechanics, bugged mechanics and heavy aoe damage at the same time, but most players cannot...

    Why is it a problem if most players cannot? Most players don't have the determination to work through obstacles and come up with build adjustments or different strategies. Does that mean that there shouldn't be content that requires those?

    And the content will seem easier a year from now with new gear levels and a raised CP cap for those who are overcome with frustration now.
  • Pistolera_ESO
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    I really hate Maelstrom. If I didn't want to morph I would absolutely avoid it. Maybe I'll try it with my heavy templar this time and see how it goes.
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    coolermh wrote: »
    My experience with vet malestorm is that all the stages are appropriate in difficulty except for the last boss in stage 9. I spent 200 lives and got him to 10% only one time and the I quit and was very frustrated. I actually was so mad that I took a few days off from the game because of it. I don't quite have all gold gear for my sorc. Missing maybe 2 pieces. But I have 501 champ, 3 pc willpower, 5 Juliaos, 2 torugs and 1 molag.


    With stamina don't even think of trying. It is not with your time and frustration.

    Last boss is overly punishing rather than strictly difficult; it takes 100s of lives to learn the mechanics. Every 10 seconds something can one-shot you and that takes a lot of practice to avoid. Just about all of us had that same experience the first time we got to last boss. Once you have a strategy, it takes top 3 or 4 tries at the final boss.
    Make Rush of Agony "Monsters only." People should not be consecutively crowd controlled in a PvP setting. Period.
  • pdebie64b16_ESO
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    DaveMoeDee wrote: »
    Its just sad that ZOS adjusted Vma towards elite players who are only a fraction of the player base, and ZOS announced they dont nerf Vmsa what means they listen to that small ammount of players and dont want to take there fun away while they dont care about the rest of players who cant complete it.

    >>>Ltp comments inc<<<

    Yes the elite players can handle unmitigrated damage, one shot mechanics, bugged mechanics and heavy aoe damage at the same time, but most players cannot...

    Why is it a problem if most players cannot? Most players don't have the determination to work through obstacles and come up with build adjustments or different strategies. Does that mean that there shouldn't be content that requires those?

    And the content will seem easier a year from now with new gear levels and a raised CP cap for those who are overcome with frustration now.

    I think alot of players tried based on comments on the forums and guild chats, i did try for weeks with different gear sets all legendary, different strategies, different characters, reading the guides, watched videos and i have capped cp.

    I play ESO since the beta weekends and didnt encounter much problems with the content, i even hated it after ZOS nerfed everything in the beginning of the game (like Dosha) because alot of players found it to hard, ive solod Craglorn dungeons and bosses, world bosses and Dolmens and even resources in Cyrodiil.

    But Vmsa, i cant do it, not even close...
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    It took me forever, but I managed to beat it on a stamina nightblade with 270ish CP using v16/v14 purples/blues, one gold v16 weapon, and endurance jewelry. Didn't even get a maelstrom item at the end. =\

    The most frustrating thing about it is how poorly balanced it is. Every single mechanic seems to be about countering melee players - nothing in the entire arena seems to be about punishing ranged players, even though the mechanics exist elsewhere in the game (reflect/absorb). So you get all these magicka sorcerers/nightblades telling people to L2P because they have a completely skewed view of the content. Why can ranged mobs stand in the water on stage 3 and 5, for instance? Being snared from the other side of the map on stage 3? Crematorium Guards on stage 9? The entire stage 4 and 7 bossfights? Blinds in however many different stages? Unblockable/undodgeable close range attacks? It's so one sided it's hilarious.

    Don't even get me started on how most of the larger mobs have a PBAoE shotgun that ranged players can ignore, and melee players need fast reflexes and a more-than-sane dose of luck.
  • Nifty2g
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    coolermh wrote: »
    My experience with vet malestorm is that all the stages are appropriate in difficulty except for the last boss in stage 9. I spent 200 lives and got him to 10% only one time and the I quit and was very frustrated. I actually was so mad that I took a few days off from the game because of it. I don't quite have all gold gear for my sorc. Missing maybe 2 pieces. But I have 501 champ, 3 pc willpower, 5 Juliaos, 2 torugs and 1 molag.


    With stamina don't even think of trying. It is not with your time and frustration.
    I think the last boss is the easiest, it's way too scripted. It's a very static fight compared to everything else and doesn't feel like a final boss
    #MOREORBS
  • TotterTates
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    Stage 8 boss was, is, and always will be the bane of my existence as a stam DK.
    Cuppincakes
    • Imperial Dragonknight (Tank)
    • Pre-TG vMA Score: 459,636 [55:36, 0 Sigils, 0 Deaths] (Stamina)
    • Post-TG vMA Score: 537,328 [53:36, 0 Sigils, 0 Deaths] (Stamina)
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    • Altmer Sorc (DPS)
    Alisaeri
    • Dunmer Dragonknight (Healer/DPS)
    Church
    • Argonian Templar (Healer)
    Moon Moon
    • Khajiit Nightblade (DPS)


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