@thesongoftimeb14_ESO check my guide out in my signature, a lot of people use a lot of skills you shouldn't be using my guide should help you out a lotthesongoftimeb14_ESO wrote: »thesongoftimeb14_ESO wrote: »I did Maelstrom on my healer v16 Templar normal mode in about 2 hours on my first run. Tonight, after a good month of watching countless videos, spending hours to learn mechanics from Deltia and unknowns on youtube, to learning how to build my gear, and what skills are the most important, I spent an hour trying to get past 3rd stage of the first arena without success.
So, I have to agree with op, based on doing normal mode first try within 2 hours, all the studying and making sure I was prepared, and still not being able to get past stage 1, tells me that vet mode is indeed for the elite.
I don't consider myself at all good, but I have fun playing this game, can heal even through VCoa from the experience I have gained without a problem, and usually get a compliment when a dungeon is done.
I am assuming this will get a nerf eventually after all the elites have completed it, so I have no problem with it the way it is. Eventually it will be easy enough for us slow and stupid people to finish and get our master gear. For now, I will just avoid it, and that way I can be happy playing what I can do.
Uhm. If you aren't able to pass the third stage the issue is definitely that you aren't built correctly. @Nifty2g made a great guide I suggest you check out. A quick forum search should do it.
I have followed Deltia's videos for my Templar and someone else who basically had a step by step guide for my dk. Its not going to happen. I did mention I am not a good player, I am 51 and never did an mmo until this. I appreciate your help, but its just not going to happen. That is why I responded to agree with the op.
Trust me, I know my limits and I am not 20 years old anymore. It needs to be nerfed after all the regulars go through it. I would imagine 2 months is plenty of time for you guys to have done it, and it would be nice to scale it down to the casual gamer. Remember, I am not complaining for calling for a nerf up front. I am saying after you guys have got it done, lets give us a shot.
As for my Templar Healer set up for Maelstrom, v16 5 piece gold TBS, 3 piece Willow all sp enchants, I have all the monster helm sets and my cp is over 400 and placed accordingly. My first bar would be Harness, dark flare, jabs, bol, inner light and shooting star. I have a tough time getting to my second bar while being smoked, but it has focus, shards, ward, jesus and inner light with nova. I even swapped out monster for a 3 piece hundigs, to no avail.
As for my dk?, I didn't even bother cause I know I could do it on normal mode. I tried vet with it, having 5 piece vet 16 gold Juliano, will power, monster set, with a fire and healing staff. I got nowhere on that too, couldn't get past stage 1 on vet, and I tried to follow the youtube guide step by step. btw, with both, I use v15 blue food for mag and health, and my potions are either tri, stats or tri with immovibility or speed, mag and spell power. Please share with me how I am not built properly if I am built very close to the elites like Deltia or Sypher. One thing I learned since beta, its easy to copy them, but that does not mean you can play like them.
For both, I wear 5L, 1, and 1 with both characters being maxed on Undaunted. I have all my passives for both characters with each having well over 200 skill points to place. However, the places I lack are no pvp skill or passive, cept the first one, and no WW or Vamp. My main point has nothing to do with any of this though. If I can take my Templar for a first run and get it done and complete in 2 hours without any prior experiece, what does that say if I can't get by the 3rd stage of first arena with a ton of visual and learning knowledge from the experts? It says I suck, and would appreciate a nerf after all others have succeeded so I can enjoy in their treasures too. No complaints man and I actually enjoy watching the elites do their stuff. Its more fun than actually playing sometimes. lol
@thesongoftimeb14_ESO check my guide out in my signature, a lot of people use a lot of skills you shouldn't be using my guide should help you out a lotthesongoftimeb14_ESO wrote: »thesongoftimeb14_ESO wrote: »I did Maelstrom on my healer v16 Templar normal mode in about 2 hours on my first run. Tonight, after a good month of watching countless videos, spending hours to learn mechanics from Deltia and unknowns on youtube, to learning how to build my gear, and what skills are the most important, I spent an hour trying to get past 3rd stage of the first arena without success.
So, I have to agree with op, based on doing normal mode first try within 2 hours, all the studying and making sure I was prepared, and still not being able to get past stage 1, tells me that vet mode is indeed for the elite.
I don't consider myself at all good, but I have fun playing this game, can heal even through VCoa from the experience I have gained without a problem, and usually get a compliment when a dungeon is done.
I am assuming this will get a nerf eventually after all the elites have completed it, so I have no problem with it the way it is. Eventually it will be easy enough for us slow and stupid people to finish and get our master gear. For now, I will just avoid it, and that way I can be happy playing what I can do.
Uhm. If you aren't able to pass the third stage the issue is definitely that you aren't built correctly. @Nifty2g made a great guide I suggest you check out. A quick forum search should do it.
I have followed Deltia's videos for my Templar and someone else who basically had a step by step guide for my dk. Its not going to happen. I did mention I am not a good player, I am 51 and never did an mmo until this. I appreciate your help, but its just not going to happen. That is why I responded to agree with the op.
Trust me, I know my limits and I am not 20 years old anymore. It needs to be nerfed after all the regulars go through it. I would imagine 2 months is plenty of time for you guys to have done it, and it would be nice to scale it down to the casual gamer. Remember, I am not complaining for calling for a nerf up front. I am saying after you guys have got it done, lets give us a shot.
As for my Templar Healer set up for Maelstrom, v16 5 piece gold TBS, 3 piece Willow all sp enchants, I have all the monster helm sets and my cp is over 400 and placed accordingly. My first bar would be Harness, dark flare, jabs, bol, inner light and shooting star. I have a tough time getting to my second bar while being smoked, but it has focus, shards, ward, jesus and inner light with nova. I even swapped out monster for a 3 piece hundigs, to no avail.
As for my dk?, I didn't even bother cause I know I could do it on normal mode. I tried vet with it, having 5 piece vet 16 gold Juliano, will power, monster set, with a fire and healing staff. I got nowhere on that too, couldn't get past stage 1 on vet, and I tried to follow the youtube guide step by step. btw, with both, I use v15 blue food for mag and health, and my potions are either tri, stats or tri with immovibility or speed, mag and spell power. Please share with me how I am not built properly if I am built very close to the elites like Deltia or Sypher. One thing I learned since beta, its easy to copy them, but that does not mean you can play like them.
For both, I wear 5L, 1, and 1 with both characters being maxed on Undaunted. I have all my passives for both characters with each having well over 200 skill points to place. However, the places I lack are no pvp skill or passive, cept the first one, and no WW or Vamp. My main point has nothing to do with any of this though. If I can take my Templar for a first run and get it done and complete in 2 hours without any prior experiece, what does that say if I can't get by the 3rd stage of first arena with a ton of visual and learning knowledge from the experts? It says I suck, and would appreciate a nerf after all others have succeeded so I can enjoy in their treasures too. No complaints man and I actually enjoy watching the elites do their stuff. Its more fun than actually playing sometimes. lol
I agree, Stage 5 still kills me, not sure what is up with that stage, stage 6 gets me killed with the lag when call lightning happens or some time in round 9Joy_Division wrote: »As a general rule, all the stages seem kind of hard until you get used to them. I won't lie, stages 5 and 6 do require above-average play from above-average builds to consistently beat (7 and 8 are actually noticeably easier), but 51 isn't that old and if you can heal CoA no problem, I'd say give it a another shot.
CavalierPrime wrote: »Maybe your skill bars are suboptimal, you dont block, you make junk potions, you dont use reflective scales, you dont understand the mechanics...
Im a v16 dragonknight with only 135 cp and I expect to complete it. Why? Because I saw my group get housed on Sanct. Ophidia over and over and over again, until all 12 people finally knew the mechanics by heart and did the right things. It sounds like Maelstrom is the same deal. You go from wiping to completing based on strategy alone.
asneakybanana wrote: »Sithisvoid wrote: »There's a difference between L2p and 79k dmg in one hitasneakybanana wrote: »Stop complaining and begging for nerfs. Content shouldn't be completed by everyone day 1. I remember when v coa came out there weren't a ton of people who could actually complete it. Now that the mechanics are out and all the strategies it's a cake walk. Same with vICP and vwgt people complained to no end about the difficulty of those 2 dungeons when they first came out and now everyone can do them and they've been out for just over 2 months.I'm a VETERAN 16 DK, played the Maelstrom Arena veteran mode and could barely advance.
Veteran is vCoA, vWGT is veteran and vICP is veteran, already VERY challenging, therefore, I consider Malestrom Arena elite, not veteran.
Imagine I'm a VR1 and I can't complete veteran Maelstrom Arena. It's OK. I grow to VR16, I get VR16 gear and get a lot of CPs. OK, I'm ready. Nope! Still not doable. And when I say "doable" I mean that 1 out of 100 players can do it (1.000 if you like, 10.000?), not 1 out of 1.000.000.
This is elite, a level that hasn't yet be implemented in TESO, not veteran. Maybe a few players out of millions can complete it, same as a poor amateur team sometimes beats Barcelona in a friendly soccer game. Still, that doesn't make that poor amateur team a pro team.
Maelstrom Arena is not veteran, is elite.
Maybe it has been made this hard on purpose because, if it's clear that veteran is vCoA, vWGT and vICP, still not doable for the majority of the veteran players, and you still create something even harder, waaay more harder, it's undoubtly on purpose and with a reason.
What purpose and reason? I have no idea.
On a side note: I have completed normal mode and it was still challenging and fun, so I'm sooo happy!
Also you are playing one of the weaker specs in there. Try out a mag nb or mag sorc and it will be far easier. Also on my Dk complete it didn't take me hours and hours and hours. It took me 2 hours and 12 deaths. So I used about 10k in pots and maybe 2k on repairs. So I definitely didn't spend 100k. I will be posting a guide for both sorc and mag Dk within the coming week to help out everyone that's having trouble.
vWGT and vICP both got nerfed so that's not the best example.
And this has already been nerfed twice on the pts. If it had been left as it originally we then I would agree that it's only for elite players since that was actually hard and a real test of people's skill. But now? It's a nice easy hour and a half run that most players that are willing to spend more than 15 minutes in can clear.
pdebie64b16_ESO wrote: »Its just sad that ZOS adjusted Vma towards elite players who are only a fraction of the player base, and ZOS announced they dont nerf Vmsa what means they listen to that small ammount of players and dont want to take there fun away while they dont care about the rest of players who cant complete it.
>>>Ltp comments inc<<<
Yes the elite players can handle unmitigrated damage, one shot mechanics, bugged mechanics and heavy aoe damage at the same time, but most players cannot...
I'm just saying and believe iZOS balancing has 2 modes:
- stupendously easy
- nightmare mode
Clap, clap, clap! That's my point 100%.
The other responses have nothing to do with my first post.
They think I'm complaining, or that I won't play the vet arena, or won't try to improve my char, or will quit. LOL!
Some people like to read and understand whatever they want.
@thesongoftimeb14_ESO check my guide out in my signature, a lot of people use a lot of skills you shouldn't be using my guide should help you out a lotthesongoftimeb14_ESO wrote: »thesongoftimeb14_ESO wrote: »I did Maelstrom on my healer v16 Templar normal mode in about 2 hours on my first run. Tonight, after a good month of watching countless videos, spending hours to learn mechanics from Deltia and unknowns on youtube, to learning how to build my gear, and what skills are the most important, I spent an hour trying to get past 3rd stage of the first arena without success.
So, I have to agree with op, based on doing normal mode first try within 2 hours, all the studying and making sure I was prepared, and still not being able to get past stage 1, tells me that vet mode is indeed for the elite.
I don't consider myself at all good, but I have fun playing this game, can heal even through VCoa from the experience I have gained without a problem, and usually get a compliment when a dungeon is done.
I am assuming this will get a nerf eventually after all the elites have completed it, so I have no problem with it the way it is. Eventually it will be easy enough for us slow and stupid people to finish and get our master gear. For now, I will just avoid it, and that way I can be happy playing what I can do.
Uhm. If you aren't able to pass the third stage the issue is definitely that you aren't built correctly. @Nifty2g made a great guide I suggest you check out. A quick forum search should do it.
I have followed Deltia's videos for my Templar and someone else who basically had a step by step guide for my dk. Its not going to happen. I did mention I am not a good player, I am 51 and never did an mmo until this. I appreciate your help, but its just not going to happen. That is why I responded to agree with the op.
Trust me, I know my limits and I am not 20 years old anymore. It needs to be nerfed after all the regulars go through it. I would imagine 2 months is plenty of time for you guys to have done it, and it would be nice to scale it down to the casual gamer. Remember, I am not complaining for calling for a nerf up front. I am saying after you guys have got it done, lets give us a shot.
As for my Templar Healer set up for Maelstrom, v16 5 piece gold TBS, 3 piece Willow all sp enchants, I have all the monster helm sets and my cp is over 400 and placed accordingly. My first bar would be Harness, dark flare, jabs, bol, inner light and shooting star. I have a tough time getting to my second bar while being smoked, but it has focus, shards, ward, jesus and inner light with nova. I even swapped out monster for a 3 piece hundigs, to no avail.
As for my dk?, I didn't even bother cause I know I could do it on normal mode. I tried vet with it, having 5 piece vet 16 gold Juliano, will power, monster set, with a fire and healing staff. I got nowhere on that too, couldn't get past stage 1 on vet, and I tried to follow the youtube guide step by step. btw, with both, I use v15 blue food for mag and health, and my potions are either tri, stats or tri with immovibility or speed, mag and spell power. Please share with me how I am not built properly if I am built very close to the elites like Deltia or Sypher. One thing I learned since beta, its easy to copy them, but that does not mean you can play like them.
For both, I wear 5L, 1, and 1 with both characters being maxed on Undaunted. I have all my passives for both characters with each having well over 200 skill points to place. However, the places I lack are no pvp skill or passive, cept the first one, and no WW or Vamp. My main point has nothing to do with any of this though. If I can take my Templar for a first run and get it done and complete in 2 hours without any prior experiece, what does that say if I can't get by the 3rd stage of first arena with a ton of visual and learning knowledge from the experts? It says I suck, and would appreciate a nerf after all others have succeeded so I can enjoy in their treasures too. No complaints man and I actually enjoy watching the elites do their stuff. Its more fun than actually playing sometimes. lol
@thesongoftimeb14_ESO I can see your reasoning behind that, but I still believe using this guide can be done even if you're not going for competitive scores it just makes it a whole lot more easier.thesongoftimeb14_ESO wrote: »@thesongoftimeb14_ESO check my guide out in my signature, a lot of people use a lot of skills you shouldn't be using my guide should help you out a lotthesongoftimeb14_ESO wrote: »thesongoftimeb14_ESO wrote: »I did Maelstrom on my healer v16 Templar normal mode in about 2 hours on my first run. Tonight, after a good month of watching countless videos, spending hours to learn mechanics from Deltia and unknowns on youtube, to learning how to build my gear, and what skills are the most important, I spent an hour trying to get past 3rd stage of the first arena without success.
So, I have to agree with op, based on doing normal mode first try within 2 hours, all the studying and making sure I was prepared, and still not being able to get past stage 1, tells me that vet mode is indeed for the elite.
I don't consider myself at all good, but I have fun playing this game, can heal even through VCoa from the experience I have gained without a problem, and usually get a compliment when a dungeon is done.
I am assuming this will get a nerf eventually after all the elites have completed it, so I have no problem with it the way it is. Eventually it will be easy enough for us slow and stupid people to finish and get our master gear. For now, I will just avoid it, and that way I can be happy playing what I can do.
Uhm. If you aren't able to pass the third stage the issue is definitely that you aren't built correctly. @Nifty2g made a great guide I suggest you check out. A quick forum search should do it.
I have followed Deltia's videos for my Templar and someone else who basically had a step by step guide for my dk. Its not going to happen. I did mention I am not a good player, I am 51 and never did an mmo until this. I appreciate your help, but its just not going to happen. That is why I responded to agree with the op.
Trust me, I know my limits and I am not 20 years old anymore. It needs to be nerfed after all the regulars go through it. I would imagine 2 months is plenty of time for you guys to have done it, and it would be nice to scale it down to the casual gamer. Remember, I am not complaining for calling for a nerf up front. I am saying after you guys have got it done, lets give us a shot.
As for my Templar Healer set up for Maelstrom, v16 5 piece gold TBS, 3 piece Willow all sp enchants, I have all the monster helm sets and my cp is over 400 and placed accordingly. My first bar would be Harness, dark flare, jabs, bol, inner light and shooting star. I have a tough time getting to my second bar while being smoked, but it has focus, shards, ward, jesus and inner light with nova. I even swapped out monster for a 3 piece hundigs, to no avail.
As for my dk?, I didn't even bother cause I know I could do it on normal mode. I tried vet with it, having 5 piece vet 16 gold Juliano, will power, monster set, with a fire and healing staff. I got nowhere on that too, couldn't get past stage 1 on vet, and I tried to follow the youtube guide step by step. btw, with both, I use v15 blue food for mag and health, and my potions are either tri, stats or tri with immovibility or speed, mag and spell power. Please share with me how I am not built properly if I am built very close to the elites like Deltia or Sypher. One thing I learned since beta, its easy to copy them, but that does not mean you can play like them.
For both, I wear 5L, 1, and 1 with both characters being maxed on Undaunted. I have all my passives for both characters with each having well over 200 skill points to place. However, the places I lack are no pvp skill or passive, cept the first one, and no WW or Vamp. My main point has nothing to do with any of this though. If I can take my Templar for a first run and get it done and complete in 2 hours without any prior experiece, what does that say if I can't get by the 3rd stage of first arena with a ton of visual and learning knowledge from the experts? It says I suck, and would appreciate a nerf after all others have succeeded so I can enjoy in their treasures too. No complaints man and I actually enjoy watching the elites do their stuff. Its more fun than actually playing sometimes. lol
First thing I would like to say is that your videos and all the writing you did for builds is an awesome piece of work. After checking everything out, my first reaction was this would be the equivalent of watching Deltia's videos, but just a lot more in depth. Just watching you play, the bar swapping skill, no panic, and knowing exactly which of the 12 buttons to push and your ability to recover anytime your health bar drops down to very little. I myself live on Bol, to mask all these skills that I really don't possess. This is why we say elite, and probably really don't mean it that way. Its more of a way of saying my skills will never even come close to the ones you have. Smart, quick thinking, calm, and experienced.
However, my Templar has become a little bored of healing dungeons and just started leveling up PVP. Not sure I really care for it much, but I believe in a month or so I will hit the level needed to get proxy. With not much else to do at the moment, I thought why not? See if another guy can make me better? I have plenty of gold, but I did not want to spend my whole fortune on trying to match your setup. I got as close as I could, without breaking the bank. I think I spent about 200k total and here is what I have. First off, my Templar is Imperial. I also noticed while trying your build that I did not have duel leveled all the way. Its at 40 and I am missing those passives. I never tried the 2 sword sp boost from duel because its easy for me to light attack for mag regen, as apposed to trying to hit something up close every 8 seconds with my swords. If you could let me know where I absolutely have to change something because of that, or anything else, I am all ears.
I chose your arch mage set up and you will see why as you read the following.
Everything is v16 gold except for the 3 willow jewel set and my shoulder molag which is currently purple. I thought I had the helm for molag, but I remembered it was v5 and I had never wore the set. I must have deconstructed it because its missing. I have the other Monster v16 sets though. Everything is divines except for my juliano pants, I did not want to have to remake it and its infused for the 20 percent enchant. Everything is max mag enchant with the will powers all having sp. My necklace is health, which allowed me to stop at 9 for health on attributes to get to 20k with blue food buff. Other 55 in magicka of course. My head, chest and sash are Arch. My gloves, shoes and pants are juliano. I made 2 juliano swords with nirn before learning my duel was at level 40, and I already had juliano resto with precise and flame damage on it. I have yet to enchant the 2 swords and did not bother with rearranging my 404 cp in case you say I have no change with that I have so far. Thanks for the help, and I might just go try with what I have tonight anyway. On my edit, I forgot to mention that I am 7L. I usually have the 5/1/1 for undaunted passive, but it would have been a huge cost to work that out. As important as that is for the build, for now I need to work around it until I figured something out.
@thesongoftimeb14_ESO I can see your reasoning behind that, but I still believe using this guide can be done even if you're not going for competitive scores it just makes it a whole lot more easier.thesongoftimeb14_ESO wrote: »@thesongoftimeb14_ESO check my guide out in my signature, a lot of people use a lot of skills you shouldn't be using my guide should help you out a lotthesongoftimeb14_ESO wrote: »thesongoftimeb14_ESO wrote: »I did Maelstrom on my healer v16 Templar normal mode in about 2 hours on my first run. Tonight, after a good month of watching countless videos, spending hours to learn mechanics from Deltia and unknowns on youtube, to learning how to build my gear, and what skills are the most important, I spent an hour trying to get past 3rd stage of the first arena without success.
So, I have to agree with op, based on doing normal mode first try within 2 hours, all the studying and making sure I was prepared, and still not being able to get past stage 1, tells me that vet mode is indeed for the elite.
I don't consider myself at all good, but I have fun playing this game, can heal even through VCoa from the experience I have gained without a problem, and usually get a compliment when a dungeon is done.
I am assuming this will get a nerf eventually after all the elites have completed it, so I have no problem with it the way it is. Eventually it will be easy enough for us slow and stupid people to finish and get our master gear. For now, I will just avoid it, and that way I can be happy playing what I can do.
Uhm. If you aren't able to pass the third stage the issue is definitely that you aren't built correctly. @Nifty2g made a great guide I suggest you check out. A quick forum search should do it.
I have followed Deltia's videos for my Templar and someone else who basically had a step by step guide for my dk. Its not going to happen. I did mention I am not a good player, I am 51 and never did an mmo until this. I appreciate your help, but its just not going to happen. That is why I responded to agree with the op.
Trust me, I know my limits and I am not 20 years old anymore. It needs to be nerfed after all the regulars go through it. I would imagine 2 months is plenty of time for you guys to have done it, and it would be nice to scale it down to the casual gamer. Remember, I am not complaining for calling for a nerf up front. I am saying after you guys have got it done, lets give us a shot.
As for my Templar Healer set up for Maelstrom, v16 5 piece gold TBS, 3 piece Willow all sp enchants, I have all the monster helm sets and my cp is over 400 and placed accordingly. My first bar would be Harness, dark flare, jabs, bol, inner light and shooting star. I have a tough time getting to my second bar while being smoked, but it has focus, shards, ward, jesus and inner light with nova. I even swapped out monster for a 3 piece hundigs, to no avail.
As for my dk?, I didn't even bother cause I know I could do it on normal mode. I tried vet with it, having 5 piece vet 16 gold Juliano, will power, monster set, with a fire and healing staff. I got nowhere on that too, couldn't get past stage 1 on vet, and I tried to follow the youtube guide step by step. btw, with both, I use v15 blue food for mag and health, and my potions are either tri, stats or tri with immovibility or speed, mag and spell power. Please share with me how I am not built properly if I am built very close to the elites like Deltia or Sypher. One thing I learned since beta, its easy to copy them, but that does not mean you can play like them.
For both, I wear 5L, 1, and 1 with both characters being maxed on Undaunted. I have all my passives for both characters with each having well over 200 skill points to place. However, the places I lack are no pvp skill or passive, cept the first one, and no WW or Vamp. My main point has nothing to do with any of this though. If I can take my Templar for a first run and get it done and complete in 2 hours without any prior experiece, what does that say if I can't get by the 3rd stage of first arena with a ton of visual and learning knowledge from the experts? It says I suck, and would appreciate a nerf after all others have succeeded so I can enjoy in their treasures too. No complaints man and I actually enjoy watching the elites do their stuff. Its more fun than actually playing sometimes. lol
First thing I would like to say is that your videos and all the writing you did for builds is an awesome piece of work. After checking everything out, my first reaction was this would be the equivalent of watching Deltia's videos, but just a lot more in depth. Just watching you play, the bar swapping skill, no panic, and knowing exactly which of the 12 buttons to push and your ability to recover anytime your health bar drops down to very little. I myself live on Bol, to mask all these skills that I really don't possess. This is why we say elite, and probably really don't mean it that way. Its more of a way of saying my skills will never even come close to the ones you have. Smart, quick thinking, calm, and experienced.
However, my Templar has become a little bored of healing dungeons and just started leveling up PVP. Not sure I really care for it much, but I believe in a month or so I will hit the level needed to get proxy. With not much else to do at the moment, I thought why not? See if another guy can make me better? I have plenty of gold, but I did not want to spend my whole fortune on trying to match your setup. I got as close as I could, without breaking the bank. I think I spent about 200k total and here is what I have. First off, my Templar is Imperial. I also noticed while trying your build that I did not have duel leveled all the way. Its at 40 and I am missing those passives. I never tried the 2 sword sp boost from duel because its easy for me to light attack for mag regen, as apposed to trying to hit something up close every 8 seconds with my swords. If you could let me know where I absolutely have to change something because of that, or anything else, I am all ears.
I chose your arch mage set up and you will see why as you read the following.
Everything is v16 gold except for the 3 willow jewel set and my shoulder molag which is currently purple. I thought I had the helm for molag, but I remembered it was v5 and I had never wore the set. I must have deconstructed it because its missing. I have the other Monster v16 sets though. Everything is divines except for my juliano pants, I did not want to have to remake it and its infused for the 20 percent enchant. Everything is max mag enchant with the will powers all having sp. My necklace is health, which allowed me to stop at 9 for health on attributes to get to 20k with blue food buff. Other 55 in magicka of course. My head, chest and sash are Arch. My gloves, shoes and pants are juliano. I made 2 juliano swords with nirn before learning my duel was at level 40, and I already had juliano resto with precise and flame damage on it. I have yet to enchant the 2 swords and did not bother with rearranging my 404 cp in case you say I have no change with that I have so far. Thanks for the help, and I might just go try with what I have tonight anyway. On my edit, I forgot to mention that I am 7L. I usually have the 5/1/1 for undaunted passive, but it would have been a huge cost to work that out. As important as that is for the build, for now I need to work around it until I figured something out.
As for what you said
grab dual wield it's a ton of spell damage try and level it up if you can it just makes it easier on you, quicker things die easier time you will have. being imperial you should be able to do 64 max magicka. also i don't think you should use 7 light because of undaunted passive and you will be very squishy without that, you're missing a lot of mitigation
Poison and absorb magicthesongoftimeb14_ESO wrote: »@thesongoftimeb14_ESO I can see your reasoning behind that, but I still believe using this guide can be done even if you're not going for competitive scores it just makes it a whole lot more easier.thesongoftimeb14_ESO wrote: »@thesongoftimeb14_ESO check my guide out in my signature, a lot of people use a lot of skills you shouldn't be using my guide should help you out a lotthesongoftimeb14_ESO wrote: »thesongoftimeb14_ESO wrote: »I did Maelstrom on my healer v16 Templar normal mode in about 2 hours on my first run. Tonight, after a good month of watching countless videos, spending hours to learn mechanics from Deltia and unknowns on youtube, to learning how to build my gear, and what skills are the most important, I spent an hour trying to get past 3rd stage of the first arena without success.
So, I have to agree with op, based on doing normal mode first try within 2 hours, all the studying and making sure I was prepared, and still not being able to get past stage 1, tells me that vet mode is indeed for the elite.
I don't consider myself at all good, but I have fun playing this game, can heal even through VCoa from the experience I have gained without a problem, and usually get a compliment when a dungeon is done.
I am assuming this will get a nerf eventually after all the elites have completed it, so I have no problem with it the way it is. Eventually it will be easy enough for us slow and stupid people to finish and get our master gear. For now, I will just avoid it, and that way I can be happy playing what I can do.
Uhm. If you aren't able to pass the third stage the issue is definitely that you aren't built correctly. @Nifty2g made a great guide I suggest you check out. A quick forum search should do it.
I have followed Deltia's videos for my Templar and someone else who basically had a step by step guide for my dk. Its not going to happen. I did mention I am not a good player, I am 51 and never did an mmo until this. I appreciate your help, but its just not going to happen. That is why I responded to agree with the op.
Trust me, I know my limits and I am not 20 years old anymore. It needs to be nerfed after all the regulars go through it. I would imagine 2 months is plenty of time for you guys to have done it, and it would be nice to scale it down to the casual gamer. Remember, I am not complaining for calling for a nerf up front. I am saying after you guys have got it done, lets give us a shot.
As for my Templar Healer set up for Maelstrom, v16 5 piece gold TBS, 3 piece Willow all sp enchants, I have all the monster helm sets and my cp is over 400 and placed accordingly. My first bar would be Harness, dark flare, jabs, bol, inner light and shooting star. I have a tough time getting to my second bar while being smoked, but it has focus, shards, ward, jesus and inner light with nova. I even swapped out monster for a 3 piece hundigs, to no avail.
As for my dk?, I didn't even bother cause I know I could do it on normal mode. I tried vet with it, having 5 piece vet 16 gold Juliano, will power, monster set, with a fire and healing staff. I got nowhere on that too, couldn't get past stage 1 on vet, and I tried to follow the youtube guide step by step. btw, with both, I use v15 blue food for mag and health, and my potions are either tri, stats or tri with immovibility or speed, mag and spell power. Please share with me how I am not built properly if I am built very close to the elites like Deltia or Sypher. One thing I learned since beta, its easy to copy them, but that does not mean you can play like them.
For both, I wear 5L, 1, and 1 with both characters being maxed on Undaunted. I have all my passives for both characters with each having well over 200 skill points to place. However, the places I lack are no pvp skill or passive, cept the first one, and no WW or Vamp. My main point has nothing to do with any of this though. If I can take my Templar for a first run and get it done and complete in 2 hours without any prior experiece, what does that say if I can't get by the 3rd stage of first arena with a ton of visual and learning knowledge from the experts? It says I suck, and would appreciate a nerf after all others have succeeded so I can enjoy in their treasures too. No complaints man and I actually enjoy watching the elites do their stuff. Its more fun than actually playing sometimes. lol
First thing I would like to say is that your videos and all the writing you did for builds is an awesome piece of work. After checking everything out, my first reaction was this would be the equivalent of watching Deltia's videos, but just a lot more in depth. Just watching you play, the bar swapping skill, no panic, and knowing exactly which of the 12 buttons to push and your ability to recover anytime your health bar drops down to very little. I myself live on Bol, to mask all these skills that I really don't possess. This is why we say elite, and probably really don't mean it that way. Its more of a way of saying my skills will never even come close to the ones you have. Smart, quick thinking, calm, and experienced.
However, my Templar has become a little bored of healing dungeons and just started leveling up PVP. Not sure I really care for it much, but I believe in a month or so I will hit the level needed to get proxy. With not much else to do at the moment, I thought why not? See if another guy can make me better? I have plenty of gold, but I did not want to spend my whole fortune on trying to match your setup. I got as close as I could, without breaking the bank. I think I spent about 200k total and here is what I have. First off, my Templar is Imperial. I also noticed while trying your build that I did not have duel leveled all the way. Its at 40 and I am missing those passives. I never tried the 2 sword sp boost from duel because its easy for me to light attack for mag regen, as apposed to trying to hit something up close every 8 seconds with my swords. If you could let me know where I absolutely have to change something because of that, or anything else, I am all ears.
I chose your arch mage set up and you will see why as you read the following.
Everything is v16 gold except for the 3 willow jewel set and my shoulder molag which is currently purple. I thought I had the helm for molag, but I remembered it was v5 and I had never wore the set. I must have deconstructed it because its missing. I have the other Monster v16 sets though. Everything is divines except for my juliano pants, I did not want to have to remake it and its infused for the 20 percent enchant. Everything is max mag enchant with the will powers all having sp. My necklace is health, which allowed me to stop at 9 for health on attributes to get to 20k with blue food buff. Other 55 in magicka of course. My head, chest and sash are Arch. My gloves, shoes and pants are juliano. I made 2 juliano swords with nirn before learning my duel was at level 40, and I already had juliano resto with precise and flame damage on it. I have yet to enchant the 2 swords and did not bother with rearranging my 404 cp in case you say I have no change with that I have so far. Thanks for the help, and I might just go try with what I have tonight anyway. On my edit, I forgot to mention that I am 7L. I usually have the 5/1/1 for undaunted passive, but it would have been a huge cost to work that out. As important as that is for the build, for now I need to work around it until I figured something out.
As for what you said
grab dual wield it's a ton of spell damage try and level it up if you can it just makes it easier on you, quicker things die easier time you will have. being imperial you should be able to do 64 max magicka. also i don't think you should use 7 light because of undaunted passive and you will be very squishy without that, you're missing a lot of mitigation
I did not see in your info as to what glyphs should be on my swords? Thanks




CavalierPrime wrote: »Carbon is very upset and anxious right now so I will not antagonize him. But isnt everything in this game l2p? If I hand my ps4 controller to someone who's never played eso, they will be completely lost. In what way are you failing? Whatever is causing you a failure almost always has a quick fix solution. Are you getting blasted by lots of npc mages? Reflect those spells. Is the boss hitting you for 80k? Maybe you gotta kill the Horver by the totem to prevent that 80k. I haven't played Maelstrom but I've seen it done on Youtube and it looks replicable.
I'm not upset mate.And I agree with you that adjustments and knowing mechanics is the way, as in every dungeon. However, that doesn't removes the fact that this is even too hard for VR16 advanced veterans.
So maybe, if the game had another rank; let's say normal, veteran and elite, this arena would fit, in my humble opinion, on a rank above veteran.
Simply as that.
You're a normal player who thinks he is a "Veteran". Normal mode was designed for you. Veteran Mode was designed for players who want a real challenge.
The issue is one of semantics, not skill.
pdebie64b16_ESO wrote: »Its just sad that ZOS adjusted Vma towards elite players who are only a fraction of the player base, and ZOS announced they dont nerf Vmsa what means they listen to that small ammount of players and dont want to take there fun away while they dont care about the rest of players who cant complete it.
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Yes the elite players can handle unmitigrated damage, one shot mechanics, bugged mechanics and heavy aoe damage at the same time, but most players cannot...
My experience with vet malestorm is that all the stages are appropriate in difficulty except for the last boss in stage 9. I spent 200 lives and got him to 10% only one time and the I quit and was very frustrated. I actually was so mad that I took a few days off from the game because of it. I don't quite have all gold gear for my sorc. Missing maybe 2 pieces. But I have 501 champ, 3 pc willpower, 5 Juliaos, 2 torugs and 1 molag.
With stamina don't even think of trying. It is not with your time and frustration.
DaveMoeDee wrote: »pdebie64b16_ESO wrote: »Its just sad that ZOS adjusted Vma towards elite players who are only a fraction of the player base, and ZOS announced they dont nerf Vmsa what means they listen to that small ammount of players and dont want to take there fun away while they dont care about the rest of players who cant complete it.
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Yes the elite players can handle unmitigrated damage, one shot mechanics, bugged mechanics and heavy aoe damage at the same time, but most players cannot...
Why is it a problem if most players cannot? Most players don't have the determination to work through obstacles and come up with build adjustments or different strategies. Does that mean that there shouldn't be content that requires those?
And the content will seem easier a year from now with new gear levels and a raised CP cap for those who are overcome with frustration now.
I think the last boss is the easiest, it's way too scripted. It's a very static fight compared to everything else and doesn't feel like a final bossMy experience with vet malestorm is that all the stages are appropriate in difficulty except for the last boss in stage 9. I spent 200 lives and got him to 10% only one time and the I quit and was very frustrated. I actually was so mad that I took a few days off from the game because of it. I don't quite have all gold gear for my sorc. Missing maybe 2 pieces. But I have 501 champ, 3 pc willpower, 5 Juliaos, 2 torugs and 1 molag.
With stamina don't even think of trying. It is not with your time and frustration.