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And here goes the PvP whining again :P

cosmic_niklas_93b16_ESO wrote: »

And here goes the PvP whining again :P

We are helpless.
Only we can do is complain the same thing again and again.

This time, I posted for players of AD and EP.

Ok... and AD is winning the campaign... not sure what the point is here.

Yeah, why not. I think it would be logical to limit account to one faction for PvP.

Other than people being auto grouped and assigned an unused/available objective at the same time,
I don't see how you are going to stop that 100 man zerg.
It is a free for all, mass warfare, go where you want game.

Automatic Grouping.
1. join campaign.
2. auto put into 1 man scout + mission, 4 man group to take resource and given capture resource, 24 man group to take keep and given/shared capture keep
3. complete objective and be auto assigned to new group/objective.
4. system adds and removes objectives depending on alliance keep/resource ownership.
5. the system shares objectives rather than the player.
6. Perhaps a personal player rating system so you decide which players you prefer to be grouped with.
7. scout, resource or keep defence/offence grouping preference option.

Manual Grouping.
2. A guild takes ownership of campaigns faction.
3. all players report to campaign owner to receive orders/objectives.
4. faction owner organises all players to keep them spread out and group size reasonable.
5. players voluntarily adhere to the alliance owners orders.

This forces pugs and new players to spread out and learn/fail at the same time.
This basically creates multiple concurrent capture the flag games in one instance.
More akin to halo style grouping.

Problems with manual system.
Nothing stopping a troll leading the alliance campaign.
Nothing stopping players go where they want regardless.
System objectives will clash with campaign owner objectives.
Campaign owner has to be available 24/7

Problem with auto system.
Player choice is removed.
More load on an already overworked system.

I agree Eights, one faction one campaign, all this having multiple toons in the same faction just makes a mockery of the three faction warfare, no one has any faction pride or realm pride, they don't fight for the realm to their fill potential because why bother I can just switch to the winning faction, I wish they would have stuck to the DACO model when it comes to cryodiil.

I'm confused. I play on NA Azura's and at 6:00 am EST, AD usually owns the map and have emp and it takes EP till mid-aftetnoon to take back their home keeps.

Did lolimage go to bed early or something?

AD is the new Zerg faction on NA - PC like EP was back in the old days.

Add Mercenary system, that alliance with lowest population can hire player as Mercenary from enemy alliances and offer gold to them. That should make sure Campaign Population changes alot, one side might have the highest population but if theres lots of Mercenaries, it has the lowest population instead.

Its not that we need a limit.
Its the PvP should not be set as a campaign that runs for days or weeks.

-I've not understood why these are not queue and play for 3 - 20 hours and then they reset.
-I also believe the size is too large since these aren't server wide but instead a MEGA server game that attempts to separate PvP by campaigns, instead of using a method as a frontier like Dark Age of Camelot. This would require Faction locks and sever selections tho.

I do think the game would find benefits from queue and play in smaller campaigns that last 1hour to 3 hours in a much smaller Cyrodil without any PvE or Imperial City.

The Cyrodil PvE should exist outside of the campaigns and actually be setup like Dark Age of Camelot locked to a faction which would only work if it was PvE since factions are open to all accounts.

Imperial City access....is just open so that should be just to select a server type and play. Not being tied to Cyrodil as only one campaign (maybe more now) require Cyrodil progress to access IC.


All this resolves the Cyrodil Lag, it resolves the faction spies and it resolves the complaints of PvP other than spell or class concerns which may later be addressed once larger concerns are addressed as PvE to PvP is an issue when skill or classes are viable in PvE but too powerful or lacking in PvP.