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Can we get a touch more difficulty?
Slylok
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Been running in Orisinium since it released and cant help be want more difficulty.
The character I am using is a boosted level 34 and my health regenerates faster than mobs can do damage ( even fighting 3-5+ my health barely moves ) even the 1 pip mobs do little damage.. I can understand some not being the best players and not wanting extreme difficulty on the solo content but this is a bit overboard on the easy meter currently. IMO.
The character I am using is a boosted level 34 and my health regenerates faster than mobs can do damage ( even fighting 3-5+ my health barely moves ) even the 1 pip mobs do little damage.. I can understand some not being the best players and not wanting extreme difficulty on the solo content but this is a bit overboard on the easy meter currently. IMO.
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Forestd16b14_ESO✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭First ESO was to tough now it's to easy. Players really need to make up there mind already
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Lysette✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭I don't see where you have a problem - just wear some level 1 armor and do not modify nor upgrade it and you will have your challenge - same with your weapons.
To use high quality gear and then complain about being too easy is just silly.11 -
anitajoneb17_ESO✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭I don't see where you have a problem - just wear some level 1 armor and do not modify nor upgrade it and you will have your challenge - same with your weapons.
To use high quality gear and then complain about being too easy is just silly.
It's not silly ! Running "naked" in order to adjust difficulty is a workaround but not a solution, it just makes no sense. the game should be balanced so that running with low or no gear is very difficult, running with adequate gear makes it "normal difficulty" and running top gear makes it easier.
I too (VR16) find Wrothgar a little bit too easy, but not as easy as you (OP) describe : my health does not regenerate faster than the damage done by 2 or 3 mobs ! I think the battle levelling formulas are not fine tuned enough. Just keep on levelling and it should "normalize". If not or not enough, you can tweak your build towards more weakness and/or more diversity in order to still have fun (uless or until ZOS fine tunes the battle levelling). You're definitely not the first low-level player that I hear complaining about battle levelling in Wrothgar making them completely overpowered.4 -
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✭Agree with OP, too easyEdited by martinhpb16_ESO on December 26, 2015 8:33PMAt least the spelling is difficult for you.
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Sharmony✭✭✭jcodbf2b14_ESO wrote: »Been running in Orisinium since it released and cant help be want more difficulty.
The character I am using is a boosted level 34 and my health regenerates faster than mobs can do damage ( even fighting 3-5+ my health barely moves ) even the 1 pip mobs do little damage.. I can understand some not being the best players and not wanting extreme difficulty on the solo content but this is a bit overboard on the easy meter currently. IMO.
We do but the amount of cries on these forums for nerfs is beyond compare, take the prime example of the 4man IC vet dungeons.@Wjleppard - EU - Sharmony YoutubeHolyfire - V16 Stamina Templar | Auriels Bow - V16 Stamina Nightblade | Sharmony - V16 Magicka Templar | Flaming Rose - V16 Magicka Dragonknight | Rejuvenation - V16 Magicka Nightblade | Dora The (Explorer Title) - V16 Magicka Sorcerer | Critjiit - V16 Stamina Dragonknight | Just Hold Block - V16 Stamina Dragonknight | Stormburst - V16 Stamina Sorcerer | Ashenbourne - V16 Magicka Templar | Swims-At-Speed - V16 Magicka Templar | Sharmonknee - V16 Stamina Nightblade | Sharmoney - V16 Magicka WardenGuild Affiliations: Hodor, Travelling Merchant, Aetherius Trade, Golden Goose.
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Lysette✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭You vets really should think about low level players, who are scaled up by the DLC, but who are lacking the gear and skills you guys have acquired. For them it is hard enough - so if you want to have fun, adapt to the difficulty - go there with less elaborate gear and you will find a challenge - this DLC is made so that all can access it at any level. Those with more skills and better gear will find it easy - but they can adapt their gear to it - while low level players who are scaled up in the DLC cannot adapt to higher difficulty.6 -
Reevster✭✭✭✭✭Would you rather them put out another "craglorn" where 90 percent of the players cant or don't want to fight in? They dropped the ball with craglorn and picked it up again with Orisinium , Also remember most players running lvl 35 or so have Champ points and great crafted gear etc, they will feel OPed, Yes its fairly easy content but many many players have returned because of it . not everyone enjoys being completely and utterly torn apart by mobs at each turn as in the craglorn content.4
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Sharee✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭If you are bored of the easy difficulty i suggest you go soloing in imperial city. Not only are the mobs a lot tougher (balanced for group play), there is also the threat of enemy players who i guarantee won't be doing so little damage to you that your health will out-regenerate it easily
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failkiwib16_ESO✭✭✭✭✭
✭If you are bored of the easy difficulty i suggest you go soloing in imperial city. Not only are the mobs a lot tougher (balanced for group play), there is also the threat of enemy players who i guarantee won't be doing so little damage to you that your health will out-regenerate it easily
This, try to solo the quests in IC too. It provides a good challenge for most solo questers
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Sharmony✭✭✭failkiwib16_ESO wrote: »If you are bored of the easy difficulty i suggest you go soloing in imperial city. Not only are the mobs a lot tougher (balanced for group play), there is also the threat of enemy players who i guarantee won't be doing so little damage to you that your health will out-regenerate it easily
This, try to solo the quests in IC too. It provides a good challenge for most solo questers
And when you want to play with other players which is what I prefer doing? :') I personally dislike quests after doing silver 8 times and gold 3 times...Edited by Sharmony on December 26, 2015 8:58PM@Wjleppard - EU - Sharmony YoutubeHolyfire - V16 Stamina Templar | Auriels Bow - V16 Stamina Nightblade | Sharmony - V16 Magicka Templar | Flaming Rose - V16 Magicka Dragonknight | Rejuvenation - V16 Magicka Nightblade | Dora The (Explorer Title) - V16 Magicka Sorcerer | Critjiit - V16 Stamina Dragonknight | Just Hold Block - V16 Stamina Dragonknight | Stormburst - V16 Stamina Sorcerer | Ashenbourne - V16 Magicka Templar | Swims-At-Speed - V16 Magicka Templar | Sharmonknee - V16 Stamina Nightblade | Sharmoney - V16 Magicka WardenGuild Affiliations: Hodor, Travelling Merchant, Aetherius Trade, Golden Goose.
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Weide✭I agree to OP
When I started to play ESO, there was more challange. All the "fabric softening" is the only thing I dislike in ESO2 -
Yattaq✭✭✭Overland difficulty in an MMO has to be pretty low to cater to most common skill level, which is pretty low. Otherwise the biggest chunk of the player base wouldn't be able to do the most basic gameplay the game offers. That's why there are other things like dungeons/IC/trials that are more difficult. It's sort of an opt-in difficulty that's there if you want to try it.6 -
DRXHarbinger✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭So ICP. Even get a friend to scale it down and try that.PC Master Race
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failkiwib16_ESO✭✭✭✭✭
✭failkiwib16_ESO wrote: »If you are bored of the easy difficulty i suggest you go soloing in imperial city. Not only are the mobs a lot tougher (balanced for group play), there is also the threat of enemy players who i guarantee won't be doing so little damage to you that your health will out-regenerate it easily
This, try to solo the quests in IC too. It provides a good challenge for most solo questers
And when you want to play with other players which is what I prefer doing? :') I personally dislike quests after doing silver 8 times and gold 3 times...
Well it is ment for group play, so you can take your friends on a trip to IC
bonus - you can me more than 4 in a group, heck you can be more than 12 in a group xD
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✭✭✭✭✭We could use some difficulty settings rather than what we have now which generally has a majority of leveling content being way too easy for many players and the endgame being far too difficult for casual players. One might argue that MSA has difficulty settings but when your progression is locked behind only the harder of the two, it just doesn't feel that way.
Right now, no matter your skill level you will either find some content too easy or too hard but since that content is tied to progression, you suck it up and grind it out if too easy and accept that you won't be able to progress if it's too hard. Both of those options are not something ZoS should be looking to give players if they can prevent it at all.2 -
anitajoneb17_ESO✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭@failkiwib16_ESO : IC is extremely easy as as soon as there are two people together. Solo difficulty is fine there IMHO. (For the PVE part, of course PvP risk is what it is : depends on the size and strength of the opponent ;-) )
@Lysette : here we have a low level (38) complaining that Wrothgar is too easy... it's not old experienced vets...
However, what I see in Wrothgar most times is people refusing to start a world boss as long as they haven't gathered at least 8 people... those bosses can be a real challenge, but not with 8 people !! :-)Edited by anitajoneb17_ESO on December 26, 2015 9:30PM2 -
Khaos_Bane✭✭✭✭✭
✭anitajoneb17_ESO wrote: »@failkiwib16_ESO : IC is extremely easy as as soon as there are two people together. Solo difficulty is fine there IMHO. (For the PVE part, of course PvP risk is what it is : depends on the size and strength of the opponent ;-) )
@Lysette : here we have a low level (38) complaining that Wrothgar is too easy... it's not old experienced vets...
However, what I see in Wrothgar most times is people refusing to start a world boss as long as they haven't gathered at least 8 people... those bosses can be a real challenge, but not with 8 people !! :-)
In case you might not understand, let me explain it to you. There are new players that aren't as well equipped as you or even I may be. So yeah maybe 8 is needed at times. You are probably the guy in vet or even normal dungeons that asks for gear links and CP lol.
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anitajoneb17_ESO✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Khaos_Bane wrote: »anitajoneb17_ESO wrote: »@failkiwib16_ESO : IC is extremely easy as as soon as there are two people together. Solo difficulty is fine there IMHO. (For the PVE part, of course PvP risk is what it is : depends on the size and strength of the opponent ;-) )
@Lysette : here we have a low level (38) complaining that Wrothgar is too easy... it's not old experienced vets...
However, what I see in Wrothgar most times is people refusing to start a world boss as long as they haven't gathered at least 8 people... those bosses can be a real challenge, but not with 8 people !! :-)
In case you might not understand, let me explain it to you. There are new players that aren't as well equipped as you or even I may be. So yeah maybe 8 is needed at times. You are probably the guy in vet or even normal dungeons that asks for gear links and CP lol.
Let me explain to you, since it is obvious that you have not understood : we have a newbie (level 38) battle levelled for Wrothgar who states that the area is too easy. Many lowbies say the same. There's a problem with the levelling.
VR16 are NOT battle levelled. Battle levelled 38 lowbies without CPs are in fact stronger than VR16 with CPs.
One "trick" to make content a little bit more challenging can be to wear less optimized stuff, and/or to run in smaller groups or solo.
8-manning a world boss in Wrothgar is boring, 3-manning them is fun.
As for the rest of your "conclusions" they are as mislead as the rest of your post.Edited by anitajoneb17_ESO on December 26, 2015 9:43PM3 -
anitajoneb17_ESO✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭OP joined nov 2013 i don't think he doesn't have any cp ......
That means nothing. I joined the game muuuuch later than the forums.
Maybe OP can tell us how many CPs he has ? If so, disabling them could be another way to make content more challenging. That's the most obvious thing to do IMHO.
But from what I heard within my guild, battle levelling for lowbies in Wrothgar is so strong that they feel overpowered there, even without CPs.
.Edited by anitajoneb17_ESO on December 26, 2015 9:56PM0 -
UltimaJoe777✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Win a boxing match with a Mammoth? Yeah I can see why you'd think it's too easy.
Win a boxing match with Old Snagara? HAH! Have fun with that.
References and metaphors aside not all content in Wrothgar is easy enough to solo. Might I suggest you visit Maelstrom Arena? It is located in the Northeast right along the edge of the Wrothgar map. I'll give you directions shortly.
EDIT: Here's the map location of Maelstrom Arena
Edited by UltimaJoe777 on December 26, 2015 10:02PMGuildmaster of Power With Numbers in PS4 NA Server's Aldmeri Dominion.
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✭✭Cant people just leave things alone and stop wanting higher levels of difficulty,or lower ones.Jeez.4 -
DragonSamurai360✭✭✭NO! I completely disagree with this, I can't even get past the temple quest where you have to get past the torch bearers and then the boss to get a key. The boss absolutely murders me and then again some bosses in the 3 starting zones for levels 1-24 are difficult enough, even some basic enemies are hard. I don't need it more difficult, and I certainly don't need another Dark Souls 2 where I can't even complete the first quest, because it's so difficult.2 -
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✭DragonSamurai360 wrote: »NO! I completely disagree with this, I can't even get past the temple quest where you have to get past the torch bearers and then the boss to get a key. The boss absolutely murders me and then again some bosses in the 3 starting zones for levels 1-24 are difficult enough, even some basic enemies are hard. I don't need it more difficult, and I certainly don't need another Dark Souls 2 where I can't even complete the first quest, because it's so difficult.
you are aware this game was alot harder when it first came out on pc right?
i was a sword and shield dk back then.
couldn't beat doshia at lvl 12 died 3 times, i though *** it i will return when im stronger. came back at lvl 18 and actually felt like i accomplished something. this game is a cookiecutter compaired to as it was2 -
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i miss the coldhearted annoying old doshia
Doshia is vile. XD
(meaning that tart creature and her little life giving balls)0
