Update 44 is now available for testing on the PTS! You can read the latest patch notes here: https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/categories/pts
Maintenance for the week of September 23:
• PC/Mac: No maintenance – September 23

Crafting at low level

StueyMac40
StueyMac40
✭✭
With the limitations of bank and bag space is it really worth provisioning and crafting from the off?

Is it not better to loot, steal and farm gold in order to build up a bit of a warchest and then craft?

Im only at Level 4 or 5 atm and want to create an assassin nightblade with emphasis on bow and DW so should I concentrate on very specific traits first or do some generic ones and then specialise?
  • Nestor
    Nestor
    ✭✭✭✭✭
    ✭✭✭✭✭
    While it is nice to have a skilled crafter to make gear for a low level, it is not really needed. Once you reach the VR Ranks, crafting becomes much more important. By character level of 40 you can be a decent enough crafter to make some good gear (6 trait) if you want to.

    So, here is what you do, as you can level crafting and learn traits and put just 6 skill points into each equipment line as the passives unlock (Extraction for better decons and the research passives so you can research more items).

    1. Sell what mob loot you need to cover repairs, decon the rest. Decon is the quickest way to level Equipment Crafting. You can get all the way to 50 with no skill points, but the extraction and research passives help.
    2. Start researching traits as soon as possible. Get two traits on every thing, then get 3 etc. You can make some powerful gear only knowing 2 or 3 traits and you can learn that in 2 to 3 weeks.
    3. Use mob loot for gear to wear while leveling to 50. You will get plenty to keep you on level gear wise. In fact, you don't even need to repair anything, just replace it with mob loot.
    Edited by Nestor on December 10, 2015 8:05PM
    Enjoy the game, life is what you really want to be worried about.

    PakKat "Everything was going well, until I died"
    Gary Gravestink "I am glad you died, I needed the help"

  • StueyMac40
    StueyMac40
    ✭✭
    Thanks Nestor! Top reply!
  • Johngo0036
    Johngo0036
    ✭✭✭✭✭
    good advice Nestor,

    Study those traits,
    As many as you can as doing it only when you are vr will take forever.
    PC EU Megaserver
    @Johngo0036
    CP900+
    Altmer Magicka Sorcerer |The-Irritable-Witch(DC)
    Orc Stamina Dragonknight | Gru-Bolar(DC)
    Dunmer Magicka Nightblade | Chewbucca(DC)
    Khajit Stamina Nightblade | Gleaming Daggers(DC)
    Altmer Magicka Nightblade | Miss Chewbucca(EP)
    Argonian Magicka Templar | Walks-With-Friends(EP)
    Argonian Templar Healer | Dr Toxic(EP)
    Orc Stamina Sorc | Lady Streaks-Alot(DC)
    Dunmer Magicka DK | Whips-n-Chains(DC)
    Nord Warden | Demi Tank(DC)
    Dunmer Magicka Warden | Crafter-O-Crafts(DC)
    Bosmer Stamplar | Forest-Plump(DC)
    Argonian Hybrid Nb | Men-O-Paws(DC)
    Bosmer Stamblade | 'Maui(AD)
    Altmer Magicka Sorcerer | Mid-Life-Crisis(AD)


  • katamuro11b16_ESO
    What surprises me is that the armour and weapon sets that you unlock for crafting as the special crafting places doesn't seem to be better at 4 traits than at 2. You definitely get more options but you can still create really good armour in stonefalls.
  • Mansome
    Mansome
    ✭✭✭
    My suggestion create alts to hold stuff if you have to. I never really found provisioning or alchemy that useful because there is food and potions dropping everywhere. While the consumables that drop arent the best I just could not justify putting points in those skills when you get way more use out of the other crafts. If anything I will just do it on an alt but not my main. Also I would just deconstruct everything you find. No point in keeping it as most of the time the stats are crappy or it takes forever to complete the whole set when you could have just as easily crafted something better. Once you get to end game thats a different matter all together. As far as the researching traits goes, do the ones you want first and the sucky ones last even if you have to hold on to items in the bank to do it.
  • Ourorboros
    Ourorboros
    ✭✭✭✭✭
    ✭✭
    Great advice from Nestor. For the trait research, it makes sense to focus on the usable traits, not just any trait. For armor, prioritize Divines, Infused, maybe Reinforced. Last to research should be Sturdy. For Weapons, priorities are Precise and Sharpened. If you can come up with the gold, get Nirnhoned for your weapon of choice.

    By far the slowest craft to level is Enchanting, so start early. Even if you don't think you will use it because you can get to level 50 without spending a single skill point doing this (on my third alt using this method) Decon every glyph you find, minus any you might use on your equipment. It might pay off to do writs for this one. Anyone else notice that Wrothgar is the perfect place to level enchanting? The potency runes are at your level, so when you are ready for the next tier, you can harvest what you need there. Much easier than back-tracking to home alliance zones for low level runes.

    You can skip Alchemy and Provisioning until you have the bag space for it. You can level both to 50 in under an hour if you have the needed mats and recipes. Worth having both, though, as crafted foods and potions are best in game, and CAN make a difference in sticky situations.
    PC/NA/DC
    Breton Sorcerer Maester.White - BB meets GoT >Master Crafter< { 9 Traits completed 4/23/15 }
    TANSTAAFL--->There ain't no such thing as a free lunch.....Robert Heinlein
    Women and cats will do as they please, and men and dogs should relax and get used to the idea....Heinlein
    All those moments will be lost in time, like tears...in...rain. Time to die. "Blade Runner"
    ESO: the game you hate to love and love to hate....( >_<) May RNG be with you (*,_,*)
  • stevenbennett_ESO
    stevenbennett_ESO
    ✭✭✭
    Actually, I highly recommend working on Provisioning as your first craft. It's by far the easiest one to level up, and you find provisioning mats everywhere, cheap.

    As you level it up, it becomes your big early profit maker. Create all of your alts, level them up into the 6-10 range, and on each one get the Provisioning hireling. Every day, do a Provisioning writ on each one and craft ALL your provisioning mats on your main character, selling the results. (It's also a good idea to visit your riding trainer as part of this daily task...) As soon as you get high enough, put skill points in producing multiple food and drink items with each craft. Buy cheap green recipes from guild stores (no more than 50 coins each), and soon what you'll be doing is crafting all your mats with level 40+ recipes, making 4 items for each 2 mats and selling them for 4 or 5 each - so each material makes you 8-10 coins. Between the mats you get from writs and hirelings, you'll be pulling in 5k-10k a day just doing provisioning.

    Your best means of leveling Blacksmithing, Clothing, Woodworking and Enchanting is to simply research anything with a researchable trait, sell Ornate items, and deconstruct *everything* else, saving the mats on your alts. Get Keen Eye for all of those and for Alchemy, and just collect mats for a while that way too, storing them on your alts. You make your money with Provisioning and questing, and use it for Bank slots and bags, then when you have enough space, you can start worrying about the other craft skills.
    Edited by stevenbennett_ESO on December 14, 2015 9:11PM
  • CodeXDragon
    question, I'm pretty much in the same situation as OP. level 5 or so, getting the hang of the game, and wondering about all this dang crafting and cooking loot with no bag space.

    so I'm wondering: what about using trading guilds to sell all this loot? Do ppl do that in trading guilds?? I just don't know what to do with all these different ingredients
  • Ourorboros
    Ourorboros
    ✭✭✭✭✭
    ✭✭
    question, I'm pretty much in the same situation as OP. level 5 or so, getting the hang of the game, and wondering about all this dang crafting and cooking loot with no bag space.

    so I'm wondering: what about using trading guilds to sell all this loot? Do ppl do that in trading guilds?? I just don't know what to do with all these different ingredients

    For sure, people sell provisioning items. I buy some ingredients from time to time. Even though you can make money from provisioning, at early levels, the ingredients put a lot of pressure on bag space. It is worthwhile to level provisioning due to the superior buffs, but they aren't really needed until vet levels. There are plenty of ways to earn gold that don't impinge bag space. If you want to gather ingredients and alchemy mats, save them on a mule, and level those two skills when you have more skill points and bag space.
    Edited by Ourorboros on December 15, 2015 3:45AM
    PC/NA/DC
    Breton Sorcerer Maester.White - BB meets GoT >Master Crafter< { 9 Traits completed 4/23/15 }
    TANSTAAFL--->There ain't no such thing as a free lunch.....Robert Heinlein
    Women and cats will do as they please, and men and dogs should relax and get used to the idea....Heinlein
    All those moments will be lost in time, like tears...in...rain. Time to die. "Blade Runner"
    ESO: the game you hate to love and love to hate....( >_<) May RNG be with you (*,_,*)
  • llSRRll
    llSRRll
    ✭✭✭
    Make sure your doing research if you plan on crafting and start it early. I made my own armor early on and broke everything down even blue and purple weapons. When I needed money I sold the mats that I got from breaking everything down. By the time I hit VR1 I had Blacksmith up to 42, woodworking to 40 and clothier to 39.
  • CodeXDragon
    hmm interesting, ok so how do i sell provisioning items? join a trading guild?
  • Count_Dracula
    Count_Dracula
    ✭✭✭
    StueyMac40 wrote: »
    With the limitations of bank and bag space is it really worth provisioning and crafting from the off?

    Is it not better to loot, steal and farm gold in order to build up a bit of a warchest and then craft?

    Im only at Level 4 or 5 atm and want to create an assassin nightblade with emphasis on bow and DW so should I concentrate on very specific traits first or do some generic ones and then specialise?

    I know what the dirty version of "atm" means, but what does it mean here?
  • Tarukmockto
    Tarukmockto
    ✭✭✭
    At the moment
    NA - DC - DK - PC
  • CodeXDragon
    Haha wow. that's how u get hep
    Edited by CodeXDragon on December 26, 2015 6:00PM
  • Azzuria
    Azzuria
    ✭✭✭✭✭
    Two words: Banker Alt.

    Get your Banker a horse and get all the extra slot and make their bank large as possible. Then only keep 1 stack of all Racial and Trait items, which is easier now that they stack to 100. Keep all Purple and Gold crafting items on your banker.

    I have an Enchanter / Blacksmith, a Woodworker / Clothier, a Provisioner and an Alchemist, all of whom have plenty of bank and bag space because... Banker alt!

    Of course there is the inevitable full-bag-shuffle, where items get doled out to different alts and the banker based upon tradeskill.

    Nothing is ever easy.
    Brunhilda Icehammer - Nord Dragonknight, 'Smith & Enchantress 'What is 'ranged? I need to hit something!!'
    Laehl Direthorn - Bosmer Nightblade, Purveyor of fine Clothes, Bows and Staves
    Reeza gra-Zuni - Orc Templar 'War Shaman' and Apothecary
    Noemi Snowpaw - Kajiit Dragon Knight - I laugh... or I'd have to kill you.
    Kitera Dreamon - Breton of The Dominion: Because those Daggers don't appreciate a great Mage.
    Lysara Shadowcroft - Dunmer Bloodmage: This will only hurt a lot.
Sign In or Register to comment.