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Such a toxic community that just doesn't want to adapt
Barlthump
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So I've been reading the forums lately and I've been seeing a huge trend of nerf this and nerf that, namely the dumping on stamina classes. I find it ridiculous that aplaying a stamina class gets punished so badly in the current state eso is in. First the dodge roll nerf, then the block cost nerf. Then came the omg the CC on gap closer is ridiculous nerfs and quite recently the fear too OP nerf.
Come on people, I've been in the same spot as you and the game really seems to reward someone playing a magicka class so badly, most class skills scale off magic damage and it is totally funny how they cream through pve content with ease laughing at stamina classes. Now you guys want to dominate pvp as well? With the OP power of shield stack and heals it's already impossible to kill some builds who are prepared and know you are around. Best part is most people pump so much points into the main resource stat and run around IC or pvp with their own cream damage builds and QQ when they get one shot by someone who uses CC nad stealth to attack. I mean do you expect to live if someone sneaks up behind you and jabs a sword I to your back?
ZOS please heed my plea and remove VR caps as soon as possible please, I want to play the FOTM classes and join elder robes online as soon as possible.
Come on people, I've been in the same spot as you and the game really seems to reward someone playing a magicka class so badly, most class skills scale off magic damage and it is totally funny how they cream through pve content with ease laughing at stamina classes. Now you guys want to dominate pvp as well? With the OP power of shield stack and heals it's already impossible to kill some builds who are prepared and know you are around. Best part is most people pump so much points into the main resource stat and run around IC or pvp with their own cream damage builds and QQ when they get one shot by someone who uses CC nad stealth to attack. I mean do you expect to live if someone sneaks up behind you and jabs a sword I to your back?
ZOS please heed my plea and remove VR caps as soon as possible please, I want to play the FOTM classes and join elder robes online as soon as possible.
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Unsent.Soul✭✭✭✭✭
✭So you are complaining about other people complaining? I've always said in these games, less nerfs and having a more open opinion on builds and give more variety.5 -
Digerati✭✭✭✭Health needs a boost so that going pure health is viable.
That would be the ultimate way to nerf stamina... make it so that stamina builds can still pounce and wreck magicka builds, but health builds are able to eat them...
Maybe health could also boost physical resists?1 -
Shadowstep2003✭✭✭Don't let it get to you, forums are typically used as a place for people to vent their frustrations. It's actually pretty rare that someone comes on the forums with the intent to post something positive.
Zos has mentioned that they are going to be performing some class balancing in the near future starting with the Templar (I think).
People can cry nerf all they want, but at the end of the day the devs are going to look at hard data to make their decisions and if it shows that something needs to be toned down most likely they will do it assuming they care about the wellbeing of their game.3 -
Gilvoth✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Shadowstep2003 wrote: »
People can cry nerf all they want, but at the end of the day the devs are going to look at hard data to make their decisions and if it shows that something needs to be toned down most likely they will do it assuming they care about the wellbeing of their game.
you just quoted what was said during "beta"
and it wasnt true then, so why do you believe it is true now and today?
(im a pure stamina build and have been since 2013, magicka builds have allways been the top damage dealers and top of the line in survivability)Edited by Gilvoth on December 21, 2015 5:17PM2 -
Barlthump✭✭✭Unsent.Soul wrote: »So you are complaining about other people complaining? I've always said in these games, less nerfs and having a more open opinion on builds and give more variety.
Yes I am complaining, cause after playing a stam build for so long I'm finding it hard for myself to get chosen to do PVE dps cause it's sub par. And reading posts like stam NB OP is really disheartening cause people are running that huge damage build. I rarely pick a fight with someone who has 25k hp cause I know I can't burst him and that he is going to run my resources out. But when someone with 16k hp comes prancing around, I'm here going all mu buffs and positioning myself so that I can kill him and run away. ZOS listens to the PVP QQ so much that it starts to mess up my PVE environment. Like it really sucks eh people as me what class and what resource pool I use and the second I say I'm stam and people just say oh it's alright we got a magicka class0 -
Lenikus✭✭✭✭✭Yo, i heard you don't like complaining,
so we complained about the people who complain
And now you can complain at complains while you complain.
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acw37162✭✭✭✭✭
✭Well to be fair camo-hunter is broken, again
To be honest they need to turn the ability completely off until they can fix it
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✭I thought it was elder jacks online...wait thats PvP but Pve is Elder Robes Online... neither is Elder Curaiss Online (I know I butchered it spellcheck can't recognize the word). Stop nerfing defense already whether you believe it or not ZOS nerf is not synonymous to balance! Get rid of or reduce the dodge roll and defense nerf as that punishes too many especially those without CPs if anything it punishes those who never abused it more because they can't defend when they need to. Add bonuses to smart well timed blocking. @Wrobel I know you are planning to have gapclosers snare instead but A let us dodge it if we see it coming I mean come on does it really make sense to force people to sit and take it when you can dodge almost everything else? B get rid of the silence due to that being abused as well. add incentives to health and heavy armor.PS4 NA
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Dubhliam✭✭✭✭✭
✭Health needs a boost so that going pure health is viable.
That would be the ultimate way to nerf stamina... make it so that stamina builds can still pounce and wreck magicka builds, but health builds are able to eat them...
Maybe health could also boost physical resists?
Interesting concept. A game of scissors paper rock.
Magicka builds beat Health builds.
Health Builds beat Stamina builds.
Stamina builds beat Magicka builds.
Makes perfect sense.2 -
Gilvoth✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Yo, i heard you don't like complaining,
so we complained about the people who complain
And now you can complain at complains while you complain.
This was a gud day.
this thread is not about that, its about pointing out how still terrible and bad stamina builds are and that when we finally got some help the magicka build forum users began attacking us saying we are over powered and its just not only a lie its basicly makes us sick to the stomach.0 -
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✭Can you really blame the community? who's fault is it really? ZOS "rebalances" the game every patch practically. Each time missing the mark on "balance".Edited by Cuyler on December 21, 2015 5:24PMGuild: STACK n BURN (gm) PC - NA
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JD2013✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭I'm a magic user and have never complained on the forums once or asked for a nerf to anything.
I've killed in PVP, I've died in PVP. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ not the end of all things.
I do agree the nerf topics have gotten out of hand.Sweetrolls for all!
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Crafting bag OP! ZOS nerf pls!4 -
Jura23✭✭✭✭✭
✭Nerf stam threads are annoying me too. If they do it, they will make stamina Templar finally and definitively hopeless beyond recall.Georgion - Bosmer/Templar - PC/EU0 -
I think there is no need to nerf anything right now but rather to make it more balanced by adding something to the tanky/health builds, making the hybrid classes viable not just in pve again.
I know it would be hard to make it but it seems the core gameplay mechanic of the game is making hybrid classes, so seeing as pvp is good only for classes which go full magicka or stamina is weird.1 -
Holycannoli✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Health needs a boost so that going pure health is viable.
That would be the ultimate way to nerf stamina... make it so that stamina builds can still pounce and wreck magicka builds, but health builds are able to eat them...
Maybe health could also boost physical resists?
IMO health should determine how much you can be healed for, as a % of incoming heals. If you put 0 points in Health you won't be healed for much. I envision a scale (but just for example) from 0 points in Health = 33% of incoming heals actually applied to 50% of your current level's points in Health = 100% of incoming heals applied.
It's completely unbalancing that DPS also = healing.1 -
Sithisvoid✭✭✭✭✭Threads like these don't tone down the toxicity though. Maybe take some of the scrubs under your wing and teach them0 -
DHale✭✭✭✭✭
✭I am not really sure how you expect ZOS to balance the game when you all have different opinions on your idea of balance. I have read 100's of forum posts about ideas about balance, sorcs want nb nerfed and night blades think sorcs should be nerfed. It's really rediculous and I have zero faith they will improve things when ZOS rebalances things next year. I think they will just break more things tbh. When you are say healing is op you are really saying you want Templars nerfed. As it is a good Templar against a good sorc the sorc will win nine times out of ten. In a one v one fight there is really only a few good Templar in all of PC. That's a crazy small number. When the next update hit some of you will be happy some will rage on the forum. Just like now. SSDD. Balance to most pvp players is my class can always beat your class. If it was not that way, ppl would not keep hitting one button over and over I would be a very rich man if I had a nickel for each nb that killed me with five ambushes in a row. Really good players all around... For sure. Enough nerfs.Edited by DHale on December 21, 2015 6:31PMSorcerna, proud beta sorc. RIP April 2014 to May 31 2016 DArk Brotherhood. Out of retirement for negates and encases. Sorcerna will be going back into retirement to be my main crafter Fall 2018. Because an 8 k shield is f ing useless. Died because of baddies on the forum. Too much qq too little pew pew. 16 AD 2 DC. 0 EP cause they bad, CP 2300 plus 18 level 50 toons. NA, PC, Grey Host#SORCLIVESMATTER actually they don’t or they wouldn’t keep getting nerfed constantly.0 -
PBpsy✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭... and no mod will come around to delete or close this non constructive troll thread...ESO forums achievementsProud fanboiElitist jerkTrollHaterFan of icontested(rainbow colors granted)2 -
Callous2208✭✭✭✭✭
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Your statement cuts me deep...because it's so true. Stamplars are in the gutter right now.0 -
UltimaJoe777✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭So... I herd you liek nerf
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Uriel_Nocturne✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Toxic?
This Community?
You apparently haven't ever visited Bungie's Destiny Forums, OP...
This Forum board is tame by comparison.
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Sithisvoid✭✭✭✭✭Uriel_Nocturne wrote: »Toxic?
This Community?
You apparently haven't ever visited Bungie's Destiny Forums, OP...
This Forum board is tame by comparison.
haha True that. You could get 50 pages of rage and "kill yourself" comments just by asking for a silly nerf and bad grammarEdited by Sithisvoid on December 21, 2015 6:54PM2 -
Fuzzywuzzy196✭✭✭I'm a magic user and have never complained on the forums once or asked for a nerf to anything.
I've killed in PVP, I've died in PVP. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ not the end of all things.
I do agree the nerf topics have gotten out of hand.
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✭people follow builds written on internet, make to themselves and face weakpoints not written on internet, come and cry on forums0 -
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