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Rewards for solo pvp

Matherios
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I've been playing eso on ps4 for 4-5 months now and i have to say most of the time i will play pvp i will be solo against a lot of people.The think is that i would solo players would be rewarded more (AP) and rewards than a zerg that takes a castle,repairs walls and does the same thing again and again!
  • SemiD4rkness
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    Matherios wrote: »
    I've been playing eso on ps4 for 4-5 months now and i have to say most of the time i will play pvp i will be solo against a lot of people.The think is that i would solo players would be rewarded more (AP) and rewards than a zerg that takes a castle,repairs walls and does the same thing again and again!

    I bet you just listened to a streamer and he made this opinion grow on you.
    Taking a castle and repairing walls is what this game's pvp is all about. Sure you can go solo (I usually do) but you can't expect to be rewarded more than people who is winning the war for you.
  • Matherios
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    Matherios wrote: »
    I've been playing eso on ps4 for 4-5 months now and i have to say most of the time i will play pvp i will be solo against a lot of people.The think is that i would solo players would be rewarded more (AP) and rewards than a zerg that takes a castle,repairs walls and does the same thing again and again!

    I bet you just listened to a streamer and he made this opinion grow on you.
    Taking a castle and repairing walls is what this game's pvp is all about. Sure you can go solo (I usually do) but you can't expect to be rewarded more than people who is winning the war for you.

    As i said i played this game for 4-5 months i don't need anybody opinion to tell me what i play!...
    Edited by Matherios on December 21, 2015 12:39PM
  • Turelus
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    I don't understand what this thread is about.

    Is it chest beating that you're getting more AP than others, or complaining your not getting as much as others?

    Everyone has their style of play and Cyrodiil has a place for everyone to do that, I don't see the need for one style to be regarded as better than the other.
    @Turelus - EU PC Megaserver
    "Don't count on others for help. In the end each of us is in this alone. The survivors are those who know how to look out for themselves."
  • Matherios
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    Matherios wrote: »
    I've been playing eso on ps4 for 4-5 months now and i have to say most of the time i will play pvp i will be solo against a lot of people.The think is that i would solo players would be rewarded more (AP) and rewards than a zerg that takes a castle,repairs walls and does the same thing again and again!

    I bet you just listened to a streamer and he made this opinion grow on you.
    Taking a castle and repairing walls is what this game's pvp is all about. Sure you can go solo (I usually do) but you can't expect to be rewarded more than people who is winning the war for you.

    Why also no be rewarded more when i kill groups of people by my own, i should be rewarded more than a zerg does!
  • SemiD4rkness
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    Matherios wrote: »
    Matherios wrote: »
    I've been playing eso on ps4 for 4-5 months now and i have to say most of the time i will play pvp i will be solo against a lot of people.The think is that i would solo players would be rewarded more (AP) and rewards than a zerg that takes a castle,repairs walls and does the same thing again and again!

    I bet you just listened to a streamer and he made this opinion grow on you.
    Taking a castle and repairing walls is what this game's pvp is all about. Sure you can go solo (I usually do) but you can't expect to be rewarded more than people who is winning the war for you.

    As i said i played this game for 4-5 months i don't need anybody opinion to tell me what i play!...

    So you want to get more rewards for killing 2-3 enemies out in the wild than those who take castles from 50+ players, or those who give you handy bonuses when becoming emperors, or taking scrolls?
    If you want reward for solo play go around ic/sewers and kill people.
  • Matherios
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    Turelus wrote: »
    I don't understand what this thread is about.

    Is it chest beating that you're getting more AP than others, or complaining your not getting as much as others?

    Everyone has their style of play and Cyrodiil has a place for everyone to do that, I don't see the need for one style to be regarded as better than the other.

    Im trying to say that 90% of the game is group pvp i don't mind that at all but for the rest people who is a small amount and it skilfull people who can take down multiplie enemies they should be rewarded more!
  • BuggeX
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    there will be a ap overhaul.

    i Play solo to. but i dont think i should be rewarded better than a bigger Group who acctually defended or attacked the Keep.
    Edited by BuggeX on December 21, 2015 12:45PM
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  • Matherios
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    Matherios wrote: »
    Matherios wrote: »
    I've been playing eso on ps4 for 4-5 months now and i have to say most of the time i will play pvp i will be solo against a lot of people.The think is that i would solo players would be rewarded more (AP) and rewards than a zerg that takes a castle,repairs walls and does the same thing again and again!

    I bet you just listened to a streamer and he made this opinion grow on you.
    Taking a castle and repairing walls is what this game's pvp is all about. Sure you can go solo (I usually do) but you can't expect to be rewarded more than people who is winning the war for you.

    As i said i played this game for 4-5 months i don't need anybody opinion to tell me what i play!...

    So you want to get more rewards for killing 2-3 enemies out in the wild than those who take castles from 50+ players, or those who give you handy bonuses when becoming emperors, or taking scrolls?
    If you want reward for solo play go around ic/sewers and kill people.

    So 50vs50 against a 1v6 is the same for you?
  • Turelus
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    Matherios wrote: »
    Turelus wrote: »
    I don't understand what this thread is about.

    Is it chest beating that you're getting more AP than others, or complaining your not getting as much as others?

    Everyone has their style of play and Cyrodiil has a place for everyone to do that, I don't see the need for one style to be regarded as better than the other.

    Im trying to say that 90% of the game is group pvp i don't mind that at all but for the rest people who is a small amount and it skilfull people who can take down multiplie enemies they should be rewarded more!

    AP rewards are being adjusted in Thieves Guild (next major update).
    @Turelus - EU PC Megaserver
    "Don't count on others for help. In the end each of us is in this alone. The survivors are those who know how to look out for themselves."
  • laksikus
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    Matherios wrote: »
    Turelus wrote: »
    I don't understand what this thread is about.

    Is it chest beating that you're getting more AP than others, or complaining your not getting as much as others?

    Everyone has their style of play and Cyrodiil has a place for everyone to do that, I don't see the need for one style to be regarded as better than the other.

    Im trying to say that 90% of the game is group pvp i don't mind that at all but for the rest people who is a small amount and it skilfull people who can take down multiplie enemies they should be rewarded more!

    you knwo you get more AP from solo kills, as AP get devided if you are grouped?
    other than that, NO you shouldnt get more.
  • Matherios
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    laksikus wrote: »
    Matherios wrote: »
    Turelus wrote: »
    I don't understand what this thread is about.

    Is it chest beating that you're getting more AP than others, or complaining your not getting as much as others?

    Everyone has their style of play and Cyrodiil has a place for everyone to do that, I don't see the need for one style to be regarded as better than the other.

    Im trying to say that 90% of the game is group pvp i don't mind that at all but for the rest people who is a small amount and it skilfull people who can take down multiplie enemies they should be rewarded more!

    you knwo you get more AP from solo kills, as AP get devided if you are grouped?
    other than that, NO you shouldnt get more.

    yea i know that i get more ap but if somebody touches my kill it splits so average if i want to take full amount i need to open world which means there won't be as much as it will be in castle where i would share the AP.
  • SemiD4rkness
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    Matherios wrote: »
    Matherios wrote: »
    Matherios wrote: »
    I've been playing eso on ps4 for 4-5 months now and i have to say most of the time i will play pvp i will be solo against a lot of people.The think is that i would solo players would be rewarded more (AP) and rewards than a zerg that takes a castle,repairs walls and does the same thing again and again!

    I bet you just listened to a streamer and he made this opinion grow on you.
    Taking a castle and repairing walls is what this game's pvp is all about. Sure you can go solo (I usually do) but you can't expect to be rewarded more than people who is winning the war for you.

    As i said i played this game for 4-5 months i don't need anybody opinion to tell me what i play!...

    So you want to get more rewards for killing 2-3 enemies out in the wild than those who take castles from 50+ players, or those who give you handy bonuses when becoming emperors, or taking scrolls?
    If you want reward for solo play go around ic/sewers and kill people.

    So 50vs50 against a 1v6 is the same for you?

    You can't 1v6 and you know it. But still winning a 50vs50 is more important to the war than killing 6 players on your own .
  • AlnilamE
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    Matherios wrote: »
    laksikus wrote: »
    Matherios wrote: »
    Turelus wrote: »
    I don't understand what this thread is about.

    Is it chest beating that you're getting more AP than others, or complaining your not getting as much as others?

    Everyone has their style of play and Cyrodiil has a place for everyone to do that, I don't see the need for one style to be regarded as better than the other.

    Im trying to say that 90% of the game is group pvp i don't mind that at all but for the rest people who is a small amount and it skilfull people who can take down multiplie enemies they should be rewarded more!

    you knwo you get more AP from solo kills, as AP get devided if you are grouped?
    other than that, NO you shouldnt get more.

    yea i know that i get more ap but if somebody touches my kill it splits so average if i want to take full amount i need to open world which means there won't be as much as it will be in castle where i would share the AP.

    Yeah, but there are more people to kill in a castle, so it averages out.
    The Moot Councillor
  • Lorkhan
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    best way to farm AP is joinning a big group and follow the crown while spamming aoe skills around a tower, not taking keeps or doing anything related to war. it works around a bridge too. or you can catch the scroll, and hold it in some choke point of the map.

    but there is some siege damage update next patch that will make harder to big groups faceroll
  • josh.lackey_ESO
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    In my experience, ganking solo or in a small group is much more profitable in terms of AP than taking or defending keeps. It really depends on how many people you have straggling by you to pick off, though.

    That said, people who take and defend keeps also have to spend AP on siege and wall repairs. Maybe in Azura's Star where it's huge zergs it's no biggie. But on the less populated servers it can be an issue sometimes.
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    Im mostly a solo player as well but I disagree with that.Whoever does the most impact on overall campaign should be rewarded the most.
    If you want me to reply to your comment type @Ankael07 in it.
  • Pchela
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    When I would run solo, my reward was a d-tick from defending the keep/resource I had just massacred people on... knowing i didn't need to call in help to do it and I got that fat tick all for myself was reward enough.
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    Matherios wrote: »
    laksikus wrote: »
    Matherios wrote: »
    Turelus wrote: »
    I don't understand what this thread is about.

    Is it chest beating that you're getting more AP than others, or complaining your not getting as much as others?

    Everyone has their style of play and Cyrodiil has a place for everyone to do that, I don't see the need for one style to be regarded as better than the other.

    Im trying to say that 90% of the game is group pvp i don't mind that at all but for the rest people who is a small amount and it skilfull people who can take down multiplie enemies they should be rewarded more!

    you knwo you get more AP from solo kills, as AP get devided if you are grouped?
    other than that, NO you shouldnt get more.

    yea i know that i get more ap but if somebody touches my kill it splits so average if i want to take full amount i need to open world which means there won't be as much as it will be in castle where i would share the AP.

    But you're not really solo'ing if people keep "touching" your kills. You're not in a group sure, but the kills aren't considered solo. There will be changes to AP with the Thief Guild DLC. More AP for solo and small scale kills v.s. zerging. But size of group or no group, wont make a difference.

    AP rewarded will always directly respond to amount of people tagging a kill. It needs to be that way. Otherwise we could all run around solo with 50+ other "solo'ers" for max AP. That's not going to reduce the lag or make people spread out.
  • wafcatb14_ESO
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    Matherios wrote: »
    Turelus wrote: »
    I don't understand what this thread is about.

    Is it chest beating that you're getting more AP than others, or complaining your not getting as much as others?

    Everyone has their style of play and Cyrodiil has a place for everyone to do that, I don't see the need for one style to be regarded as better than the other.

    Im trying to say that 90% of the game is group pvp i don't mind that at all but for the rest people who is a small amount and it skilfull people who can take down multiplie enemies they should be rewarded more!


    You are rewarded more by playing solo, you get the reward of knowing you killed those scrubs solo, and you didn`t have to share your AP with any of those scrubs playing in a group what more could you want that`s the best reward already for people that want to play solo.

  • runagate
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    eliisra wrote: »

    But you're not really solo'ing if people keep "touching" your kills. You're not in a group sure, but the kills aren't considered solo. There will be changes to AP with the Thief Guild DLC. More AP for solo and small scale kills v.s. zerging. But size of group or no group, wont make a difference.

    AP rewarded will always directly respond to amount of people tagging a kill. It needs to be that way. Otherwise we could all run around solo with 50+ other "solo'ers" for max AP. That's not going to reduce the lag or make people spread out.

    Clearly if someone is "touching" your kills then you're not solo, so that's a good point.

    But since the majority of ZOS folks have no idea about PvP in ESO at all, any change isn't likely to be helpful anyways, as the huge amount of players will always figure out a way to circumvent the intent of the mechanics.

    For instance, LoM spent almost all it's time reporting it's own Alliance's movements to enemies until all of them gave up and left the particular campaign they were in, and then would have everyone but their designated Emperor candidate leave the area before a D-tick arrived, to funnel all the AP to that particular person. Do you think the designers anticipated that or can come up with something that discourages that behavior? Of course not.

    It's absurd to think that anyone plays PvP in this game "solo" anyways. The only reason the enemy ARMY wouldn't stomp a solo person into the dirt is if they happened to be distracted by, say, the opposing army attempting to take keeps or the like. Ganking people at PvE locations or en route to fights in the Alliance War is like showing up in a battlefield and just randomly snipnig people on both sides. Or I suppose there's duelers, but they already know the weird lengths they must go to in this game to arrange that kind of player-organized activity and there's certainly no mechanics that reward it. I imagine the AP gain is miniscule.
  • Matherios
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    eliisra wrote: »
    Matherios wrote: »
    laksikus wrote: »
    Matherios wrote: »
    Turelus wrote: »
    I don't understand what this thread is about.

    Is it chest beating that you're getting more AP than others, or complaining your not getting as much as others?

    Everyone has their style of play and Cyrodiil has a place for everyone to do that, I don't see the need for one style to be regarded as better than the other.

    Im trying to say that 90% of the game is group pvp i don't mind that at all but for the rest people who is a small amount and it skilfull people who can take down multiplie enemies they should be rewarded more!

    you knwo you get more AP from solo kills, as AP get devided if you are grouped?
    other than that, NO you shouldnt get more.

    yea i know that i get more ap but if somebody touches my kill it splits so average if i want to take full amount i need to open world which means there won't be as much as it will be in castle where i would share the AP.

    But you're not really solo'ing if people keep "touching" your kills. You're not in a group sure, but the kills aren't considered solo. There will be changes to AP with the Thief Guild DLC. More AP for solo and small scale kills v.s. zerging. But size of group or no group, wont make a difference.

    AP rewarded will always directly respond to amount of people tagging a kill. It needs to be that way. Otherwise we could all run around solo with 50+ other "solo'ers" for max AP. That's not going to reduce the lag or make people spread out.

    it was an example....
  • Asherons_Call
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    Is there a title reward for avoiding PVP? If so count me in!

    "3am sewers conqueror"

    "0 population server shopper"

    "See shield -RUN"

  • Catblade
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    Matherios wrote: »
    I've been playing eso on ps4 for 4-5 months now and i have to say most of the time i will play pvp i will be solo against a lot of people.The think is that i would solo players would be rewarded more (AP) and rewards than a zerg that takes a castle,repairs walls and does the same thing again and again!

    I bet you just listened to a streamer and he made this opinion grow on you.
    Taking a castle and repairing walls is what this game's pvp is all about. Sure you can go solo (I usually do) but you can't expect to be rewarded more than people who is winning the war for you.

    Agreed.
  • Jura23
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    I wish.
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  • Sausage
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    This is troll post? Veteran MSA gives the best gears currently.

    Oh damn, this is about PVP.... well, Solo PVPer can be quite effective in IC. I suppose if they let people turn TS into AP, that could help.
    Edited by Sausage on December 21, 2015 5:20PM
  • laksikus
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    Do your 1v6 at a Ressource to get the Tick.
    Groups dont get a Tick either if they fight a 50v50 in open field
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