Maintenance for the week of February 23:
· [COMPLETE] NA megaservers for maintenance – February 23, 4:00AM EST (9:00 UTC) - 12:00PM EST (17:00 UTC)
· [COMPLETE] EU megaservers for maintenance – February 23, 9:00 UTC (4:00AM EST) - 17:00 UTC (12:00PM EST)
· [COMPLETE] ESO Store and Account System for maintenance – February 23, 4:00AM EST (9:00 UTC) - 12:00PM EST (17:00 UTC)

Veteran Ranks Replacement

Molag_Crow
Molag_Crow
✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭
Choose which Rank/Level template/system (from the image) that you think will fit nicely in the game, when Veteran Ranks get removed.

rv7HUGc.png

Feel free to say why.
Edited by Molag_Crow on December 18, 2015 1:53PM
--ϟ-- Crows_Descend - Templar - Ebonheart Pact [PS4]&[PC] [EU] --ϟ--
YoutTube ESO Playlist
The greatest prison that people live in, is the fear of what other people think. - David Icke
Be your true, authentic self.

Veteran Ranks Replacement 28 votes

Option 1.
32% 9 votes
Option 2.
60% 17 votes
Option 3.
7% 2 votes
  • Molag_Crow
    Molag_Crow
    ✭✭✭✭✭
    ✭✭
    What I mean by Option 1., is that it would effect combat, so if you have Champion Rank 200 and go against another player who's Champion Rank 100, you (with 200) will have an obvious advantage.

    --ϟ-- Crows_Descend - Templar - Ebonheart Pact [PS4]&[PC] [EU] --ϟ--
    YoutTube ESO Playlist
    The greatest prison that people live in, is the fear of what other people think. - David Icke
    Be your true, authentic self.

  • rez0055
    rez0055
    ✭✭✭
    I chose option number two, the other options look a bit silly, imo.
    Characters
    - Only-Drinks-With-Templars: Lvl 50 Argonian Magica Templar
    - Bialozar: Lvl 50 Khajitt Stamina Nightblade
    - Rez the Bald Sorceror: Lvl 50 Dark Elf Magica Sorceror
    - Gerard Snow: Lvl 50 Dark Elf Magica Dragonknight
    - Dorothea Black: Lvl 50 Imperial Stamina Templar
    - Demon Cleaver: Lvl 50 Orc Stamina Warden
    - Lord of BØnes: Lvl 50 Breton Magica Necromancer


    PC/EU server. You'll find my characters hoping on and off on the plains of Cyrodil with the guild The Black.
  • Molag_Crow
    Molag_Crow
    ✭✭✭✭✭
    ✭✭
    And with Option 3. is similar to Option 1., I guess... it's just basically an art choice of how you'd like the level to look, I guess. Not sure what I meant by "cosmetic level" since it would still have an effect in combat with CPs.
    --ϟ-- Crows_Descend - Templar - Ebonheart Pact [PS4]&[PC] [EU] --ϟ--
    YoutTube ESO Playlist
    The greatest prison that people live in, is the fear of what other people think. - David Icke
    Be your true, authentic self.

  • infraction2008b16_ESO
    infraction2008b16_ESO
    ✭✭✭✭
    I think the CP rank should be hidden to curb elitism and people only asking for people with 501+ when the content doesn't need it.
  • Molag_Crow
    Molag_Crow
    ✭✭✭✭✭
    ✭✭
    rez0055 wrote: »
    I chose option number two, the other options look a bit silly, imo.

    Yeah, I... just realized how silly they are, but what I basically meant was the art style of the levels/ranks, when VRs eventually get removed.
    --ϟ-- Crows_Descend - Templar - Ebonheart Pact [PS4]&[PC] [EU] --ϟ--
    YoutTube ESO Playlist
    The greatest prison that people live in, is the fear of what other people think. - David Icke
    Be your true, authentic self.

  • Molag_Crow
    Molag_Crow
    ✭✭✭✭✭
    ✭✭
    I think the CP rank should be hidden to curb elitism and people only asking for people with 501+ when the content doesn't need it.

    Good point.
    --ϟ-- Crows_Descend - Templar - Ebonheart Pact [PS4]&[PC] [EU] --ϟ--
    YoutTube ESO Playlist
    The greatest prison that people live in, is the fear of what other people think. - David Icke
    Be your true, authentic self.

  • NewBlacksmurf
    NewBlacksmurf
    ✭✭✭✭✭
    ✭✭✭✭✭
    Why is this even being questioned. Seriously
    If ZOS removes VR and goes with anything other than 50, I might be 100% done forever
    -PC (PTS)/Xbox One: NewBlacksmurf
    ~<{[50]}>~ looks better than *501
  • Molag_Crow
    Molag_Crow
    ✭✭✭✭✭
    ✭✭
    Why is this even being questioned. Seriously
    If ZOS removes VR and goes with anything other than 50, I might be 100% done forever

    There's no 'if' though, they're most definitely going to remove Veteran Ranks anyway... so it's now a question of "What would replace them?" I guess.

    I personally don't like the idea of the 'level cap' being just 50. I'd rather it continue on, based on how many CP's you have, so it would just go on and on, but then of course that would create a separation between those with high CPs and those with low CPs, so... still thinking about that one.
    --ϟ-- Crows_Descend - Templar - Ebonheart Pact [PS4]&[PC] [EU] --ϟ--
    YoutTube ESO Playlist
    The greatest prison that people live in, is the fear of what other people think. - David Icke
    Be your true, authentic self.

  • Gidorick
    Gidorick
    ✭✭✭✭✭
    ✭✭✭✭✭
    I voted but I don't care anymore. I disagree with what they are doing... but understand why they're doing it. So... whatever.
    What ESO really needs is an Auction Horse.
    That's right... Horse.
    Click HERE to discuss.

    Want more crazy ideas? Check out my Concept Repository!
  • NewBlacksmurf
    NewBlacksmurf
    ✭✭✭✭✭
    ✭✭✭✭✭
    Why is this even being questioned. Seriously
    If ZOS removes VR and goes with anything other than 50, I might be 100% done forever

    There's no 'if' though, they're most definitely going to remove Veteran Ranks anyway... so it's now a question of "What would replace them?" I guess.

    I personally don't like the idea of the 'level cap' being just 50. I'd rather it continue on, based on how many CP's you have, so it would just go on and on, but then of course that would create a separation between those with high CPs and those with low CPs, so... still thinking about that one.

    That's not a question either.
    Have you followed ZOS' dialogue on this for the past year +?

    Nothing else is replacing VR levels. To remove something is to do away with them.
    Now they've suggested initially that CP was to replace VR but later they wrote in it's still on the dev tracker that no CP won't replace VR.

    We also now now that when removing VR, some gear requirements are being considered to move from VR to a CP requirement thus why ZOS is also considering another VR to CP conversion but other than that info....this topic isn't asking the questions that should be questioned as we alsready know they aren't planning to display CP because it's been asked umpteen times and they said no.

    Why would they now show CP when we all know it's pointless cause PvP scales and all dungeons scale so we are effectively the same levels. In addition we also know that once VR is removed, the non VR campaigns will be non CP campaigns.

    I believe these questions were already addressed.
    -PC (PTS)/Xbox One: NewBlacksmurf
    ~<{[50]}>~ looks better than *501
  • kupacmac
    kupacmac
    ✭✭✭
    Option 4: meh
  • Molag_Crow
    Molag_Crow
    ✭✭✭✭✭
    ✭✭
    Why is this even being questioned. Seriously
    If ZOS removes VR and goes with anything other than 50, I might be 100% done forever

    There's no 'if' though, they're most definitely going to remove Veteran Ranks anyway... so it's now a question of "What would replace them?" I guess.

    I personally don't like the idea of the 'level cap' being just 50. I'd rather it continue on, based on how many CP's you have, so it would just go on and on, but then of course that would create a separation between those with high CPs and those with low CPs, so... still thinking about that one.

    That's not a question either.
    Have you followed ZOS' dialogue on this for the past year +?

    Nothing else is replacing VR levels. To remove something is to do away with them.
    Now they've suggested initially that CP was to replace VR but later they wrote in it's still on the dev tracker that no CP won't replace VR.

    We also now now that when removing VR, some gear requirements are being considered to move from VR to a CP requirement thus why ZOS is also considering another VR to CP conversion but other than that info....this topic isn't asking the questions that should be questioned as we alsready know they aren't planning to display CP because it's been asked umpteen times and they said no.

    Why would they now show CP when we all know it's pointless cause PvP scales and all dungeons scale so we are effectively the same levels. In addition we also know that once VR is removed, the non VR campaigns will be non CP campaigns.

    I believe these questions were already addressed.

    Yeah I agree, but it was because of the.. last(?) ESO Live where they said something about VR ranks being removed is still "in the works" or something along those lines, so... I don't know. Maybe this poll/topic is pointless, but what gave me the idea to ask, was because I think it would be completely dull if everyone was just left at "Level 50" and nothing more. ^^
    --ϟ-- Crows_Descend - Templar - Ebonheart Pact [PS4]&[PC] [EU] --ϟ--
    YoutTube ESO Playlist
    The greatest prison that people live in, is the fear of what other people think. - David Icke
    Be your true, authentic self.

  • Dubhliam
    Dubhliam
    ✭✭✭✭✭
    Option 2 is the way to go, but it brings up some questions about the gear people are using.

    If gear gets requirements again, then it would be a disaster.
    How would I know if I am in a group with a player dressed in Calcinium or Rubedite?

    Gear requirements need to go too.
    >>>Detailed Justice System Concept thread<<<
  • Molag_Crow
    Molag_Crow
    ✭✭✭✭✭
    ✭✭
    Dubhliam wrote: »
    Option 2 is the way to go, but it brings up some questions about the gear people are using.

    If gear gets requirements again, then it would be a disaster.
    How would I know if I am in a group with a player dressed in Calcinium or Rubedite?

    Gear requirements need to go too.

    Hmmmmmmmmm....

    What if we were all given a new skill line, something like "Champion Defense" (or something less cheesy) which basically lets you equip any level armor, but it will be as weak as ever on skill line 0-10, then slowly it'll become stronger armor, stats, enchantment-wise, the higher your skill level gets, or...

    I DON'T KNOW! Random suggestions :lol:
    --ϟ-- Crows_Descend - Templar - Ebonheart Pact [PS4]&[PC] [EU] --ϟ--
    YoutTube ESO Playlist
    The greatest prison that people live in, is the fear of what other people think. - David Icke
    Be your true, authentic self.

  • Niaver
    Niaver
    ✭✭✭✭
    Level 50 (250 CP)
    Something like this.
    PC EU - Daggerfall Covenant - @Niaver
    Erazar (main) - Khajit DK tank

    Proud owner of Maelstrom Sharpened Bow
  • NewBlacksmurf
    NewBlacksmurf
    ✭✭✭✭✭
    ✭✭✭✭✭
    Why is this even being questioned. Seriously
    If ZOS removes VR and goes with anything other than 50, I might be 100% done forever

    There's no 'if' though, they're most definitely going to remove Veteran Ranks anyway... so it's now a question of "What would replace them?" I guess.

    I personally don't like the idea of the 'level cap' being just 50. I'd rather it continue on, based on how many CP's you have, so it would just go on and on, but then of course that would create a separation between those with high CPs and those with low CPs, so... still thinking about that one.

    That's not a question either.
    Have you followed ZOS' dialogue on this for the past year +?

    Nothing else is replacing VR levels. To remove something is to do away with them.
    Now they've suggested initially that CP was to replace VR but later they wrote in it's still on the dev tracker that no CP won't replace VR.

    We also now now that when removing VR, some gear requirements are being considered to move from VR to a CP requirement thus why ZOS is also considering another VR to CP conversion but other than that info....this topic isn't asking the questions that should be questioned as we alsready know they aren't planning to display CP because it's been asked umpteen times and they said no.

    Why would they now show CP when we all know it's pointless cause PvP scales and all dungeons scale so we are effectively the same levels. In addition we also know that once VR is removed, the non VR campaigns will be non CP campaigns.

    I believe these questions were already addressed.

    Yeah I agree, but it was because of the.. last(?) ESO Live where they said something about VR ranks being removed is still "in the works" or something along those lines, so... I don't know. Maybe this poll/topic is pointless, but what gave me the idea to ask, was because I think it would be completely dull if everyone was just left at "Level 50" and nothing more. ^^

    Hmmmm
    So you understand that each CP isn't a level and even every 3 -10 CP isn't a level or VR level right?

    Also using 1 or 3 -10 CP doesn't equal a level or VR level.

    These are just Passives that depending on how they are used could cause a player to be more effective, more balanced, or even have little change.

    There is absolutely no reason to show or identify used or achieved CP's on NPCs or players as it does nothing but further confuse and possibly cause frustrations.

    Being 50 isn't at all boring tho. Consider being 50 is a good measuring stick for initial progression and to understand the min stay and skill points someone has.

    Players still have skill levels to level up to IV so showing someone as 50 makes perfect sense.

    Showing NPCs as levels 50-56 even makes sense but anything more gets pointless and so if they hope to increase the base player levels, then they would need to also build out new skills and progress current skill lines to those new levels.
    -PC (PTS)/Xbox One: NewBlacksmurf
    ~<{[50]}>~ looks better than *501
  • Molag_Crow
    Molag_Crow
    ✭✭✭✭✭
    ✭✭
    Why is this even being questioned. Seriously
    If ZOS removes VR and goes with anything other than 50, I might be 100% done forever

    There's no 'if' though, they're most definitely going to remove Veteran Ranks anyway... so it's now a question of "What would replace them?" I guess.

    I personally don't like the idea of the 'level cap' being just 50. I'd rather it continue on, based on how many CP's you have, so it would just go on and on, but then of course that would create a separation between those with high CPs and those with low CPs, so... still thinking about that one.

    That's not a question either.
    Have you followed ZOS' dialogue on this for the past year +?

    Nothing else is replacing VR levels. To remove something is to do away with them.
    Now they've suggested initially that CP was to replace VR but later they wrote in it's still on the dev tracker that no CP won't replace VR.

    We also now now that when removing VR, some gear requirements are being considered to move from VR to a CP requirement thus why ZOS is also considering another VR to CP conversion but other than that info....this topic isn't asking the questions that should be questioned as we alsready know they aren't planning to display CP because it's been asked umpteen times and they said no.

    Why would they now show CP when we all know it's pointless cause PvP scales and all dungeons scale so we are effectively the same levels. In addition we also know that once VR is removed, the non VR campaigns will be non CP campaigns.

    I believe these questions were already addressed.

    Yeah I agree, but it was because of the.. last(?) ESO Live where they said something about VR ranks being removed is still "in the works" or something along those lines, so... I don't know. Maybe this poll/topic is pointless, but what gave me the idea to ask, was because I think it would be completely dull if everyone was just left at "Level 50" and nothing more. ^^

    Hmmmm
    So you understand that each CP isn't a level and even every 3 -10 CP isn't a level or VR level right?

    Also using 1 or 3 -10 CP doesn't equal a level or VR level.

    These are just Passives that depending on how they are used could cause a player to be more effective, more balanced, or even have little change.

    There is absolutely no reason to show or identify used or achieved CP's on NPCs or players as it does nothing but further confuse and possibly cause frustrations.

    Being 50 isn't at all boring tho. Consider being 50 is a good measuring stick for initial progression and to understand the min stay and skill points someone has.

    Players still have skill levels to level up to IV so showing someone as 50 makes perfect sense.

    Showing NPCs as levels 50-56 even makes sense but anything more gets pointless and so if they hope to increase the base player levels, then they would need to also build out new skills and progress current skill lines to those new levels.

    True that, and yea, I didn't think it thoroughly :lol: and there is no reason to show/identify your CP, that's right...

    so maybe level 50 wouldn't be such a bad idea, but if it came down to that, I hope it wouldn't just stay at 50 forever and then in the background it's all about your CPs, or something... that would work, but hmmmm... what bothers me about that, is that it's already easy enough to get from 1 to 50, so having "Level 50" next to your name wouldn't really feel like you've.. accomplished something, in my opinion.

    That's one thing I liked about Vet levels, but then again, even vet levels go quickly these days.
    --ϟ-- Crows_Descend - Templar - Ebonheart Pact [PS4]&[PC] [EU] --ϟ--
    YoutTube ESO Playlist
    The greatest prison that people live in, is the fear of what other people think. - David Icke
    Be your true, authentic self.

Sign In or Register to comment.